Palin and the Wolves

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  • Posted By: aimelaterre @ 04/15/2009 9:17:34 AM

    Does our hubris know no bounds? Wolves are part of the natural landscape, we need to adapt to that landscape and the wolves and not constantly try to remake the environment to fit our whims of the moment. Respect life, respect the wonder of nature and instead of destroying it, love it, enjoy it. The wolves are my friends. The real enemy is the destroyer of all that is beautiful: prideful men. Mark Anderson phil1226@hotmail.com

  • Posted By: bsleischner @ 04/15/2009 7:22:08 AM

    Although I have never lived in Alaska it is quite evident that any time man interfers with the natural process the animals are always the losers. When will we ever learn and when will we stop only thinking about our own gratification?

    Brenda in Augusta, Georgia

  • Posted By: mamamisty @ 04/14/2009 6:59:45 PM

    It is funny to me how these people descide to make decisions out of empathy for people not the animal,is this humane?I know the Alaskan people rely on the wolves prey for food as well did they ever consider farm raised animals for humans and leave the wild ones to fend for them selves,In America we are doin g breeding programs to bring back numbers of wolves that hunters dwindled there they are killing them for over population-hmmmm.two differnet worlds i would say definitely.In any case this is sad for americans who also see bears and wolves as a symbol just as important as the eagle.So in 5 years wil we expect these animals to be in a breeding program as well.we should try to help these populations in my eyes.

  • Posted By: normita @ 04/14/2009 6:38:19 PM

    Governor Sarah Palin has shown no interest in the protection of widlife, having tried to keep the highly endangered Alaskan Beluga whale and polar bear from endangeres status. Her political career demonstrates that her policies support those from whom her power can be derived. There's no reason to believe she would act according to science and rationality when it comes to management of the Alaskan wolf populations.

  • Posted By: normita @ 04/14/2009 6:31:46 PM

    Governor Sarah Palin shows no regard for wildlife - she has tried to end protction for highly endangered beluga whales and polar bears in Alaska. Her political dynamicss have shown that she sides with wherever the power is in order to improve her position. There is no reason to believe that the killing off of wolf populations is based on rational judgment but instead is determined to enhance her political future prospects.

  • Posted By: adult @ 04/14/2009 5:23:01 PM

    I began reading the "comments" in the hope of learning from both sides of the debate. Apparently it is too difficult to stay on the subject, which I thought was the aerial hunting of wolves and the offering of a bounty for proof of a kill. The debate (if it can be called that) swiftly deteriorated into a name-calling contest. So, I am left to my orignal opinion. It is probably necesssary to cull the packs from time to time. There should be a scientific basis for the number to be killed by hunting. The hunting should not be from airplanes and helicopters. In remote areas, predator and prey will reach a natural equilibrium without human interference. And, no, I do not live in Alaska, but I plan to visit in the near future. Alaska's wildlife and scenery are the reasons for my interest, and I believe for many other tourists as well. Tourism is an important part of Alaska's economy. So can we please stick to the subject, refrain from name-calling, and perhaps present both sides of the question? Thank you.

  • Posted By: gilizer @ 04/14/2009 3:57:10 PM

    depending on wildlife for food is complete and absolute B*llS**t ! We as human have not competed for food with wildlife since the stone age I would guess. It is obvious that the hunting program is for anyone who can afford to go on a hunting trip by plane. I would not be surprised if some politician or politicians's buddies are part of this. If Native American lived among wolves for centurie,why can't modern americans do the same. Killing off living beings for comfort is never the right choice just ask the 1% of Native Americian that we did not wipe out.

  • Posted By: gilizer @ 04/14/2009 3:55:21 PM

    depending on wildlife for food is complete and absolute B*llS**t ! We as human have not competed for food with wildlife since the stone age I would guess. It is obvious that the hunting program is for anyone who can afford to go on a hunting trip by plane. I would not be surprised if some politician or politicians's buddies are part of this. If Native American lived among wolves for centurie,why can't modern americans do the same. Killing off living beings for comfort is never the right choice just ask the 1% of Native Americian that we did not wipe out.

  • Posted By: Lip service @ 04/14/2009 1:43:15 PM

    The state that gave us Sarah Palin now gives us aerial killing of wolves. What a pity! The population of Alaska is sparse and yet they feel the pseudo macho need to go out and kill these ecologically essential animals. Once wolves roamed all of North America and in the last 20 years or so the lower 48 have come to realize the importance of these animals and have potected them. What...there isn't enough room in Alaska for man and wolves....as I said before...it's pitiful behavior.

  • Posted By: Isabelle8787 @ 04/14/2009 11:21:30 AM

    I fully understand the need for normal hunting practices in order to control overpopulation but aerial hunting is quite unfair, to offer "bounty" payments for each wolf is even more inhumane. It is sad that we continue to fail to learn from our "past mistakes" -- given the near extinction of the "buffalo", the "tiger", the "alligator, the "elephant", etc. which happened mainly due to unfair hunting practices- it shocks me to think that anyone in the year 2009 would continue to advocate such aggressive unfair hunting practices of any species. I am even more shocked that a state that puts such stock in hunting would even begin to advocate such a practice. Please someone hand the government of Alaska some history books!!! I hope that the media continues to keep the public aware of this outrageous conduct.

  • Posted By: memo2 @ 04/14/2009 9:22:23 AM

    I don't think the real issue is the state aerial hunting program in Alaska, I believe is other issue here environmental is the # 1 issue is the most complex to attack,and is not only Alaska,is Canada also no matter people complain about the water no body is doing anything in the future not only the water but the fish and Mines will never shut down no matter how safe they put the production of metals still the problem, I believe this is not about environmental this is about money !..........

  • Posted By: lastfrontier @ 04/13/2009 9:22:29 PM

    What a crock. I am an Alaska....however, only with a BS and MBA, not the out-of-state phd that Volenkurg complains of. Until there is some verifiable scientific evidence that this slaughter is justified, I will continue to support the Defenders of Wildlife. Two times Alaskan residents have voted down aerial predator control and Palin has not only continued but also expanded it. It is a travesty that we all should be concerned about.

  • Posted By: lastfrontier @ 04/13/2009 9:18:16 PM

    What a crock. I am an Alaskan although I only have a BS and MBA, not the out-of-state phd Volkenburg complains of. Until there is some real science backing up this aerial massacre, I am not buying it. Alaskans have twice voted against aerial predator control and Palin has continued and increased the practice. Alaska under Palin's administration is spinning out of control.

  • Posted By: violet712 @ 04/13/2009 5:34:35 PM

    Sarah Palin is disgusting example of a human being and a politician. She works to take away rights from certain groups (ie. women & gays), promotoes the slaughter of animals (another example is when she fought for the delisting of polar bears from the endangered species list) and caters to the anti-science right wing bigots. She doesn't have "values" as she likes to call them -she is nothing more than a murderer and a bigot!

  • Posted By: drewand @ 04/13/2009 5:05:31 PM

    Personally I do not like Sarah and her politics, however, killing wolves probably is no worse than killing deer or moose or chickens.This is a non issue for most of us but unfortunately it's just another thing to dislike about Sarah.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 04/12/2009 11:06:50 AM

    Has any one in Alaska considered the health risks of eating meat, especially red meat? The evidence is overwhelming. People who consume a lot of red meat have more cholesterol. They run a greater risk of heart problems, stroke, and cancer. Smoked meats, like ham, are even more toxic. What is the cholesterol content of moose and caribou? What is the cancer risks of moose stew. Maybe we ought to call of the slaughtering of wolves. Before human settlers showed up, the populations of wolves, moose, and caribou balanced each other out. Instead, Alaskans need to cut down on their consumption of meat. They can subsitute read meat for fish or white meat, and they can let the wolves eat the moose and caribou. Then we'll not only have a healthier population, both of wildlife and of humans.

    • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 04/13/2009 1:30:15 PM

      How about you cut down on telling other people how to live?

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 04/13/2009 3:20:22 PM

        There is more to this position than meets the eye.

        The Associated Press has now announced that the Western Watersheds Project,with fellow backing from SIERRA,and these alleged ''Friends of the Earth'' is seeking through suit,to shut down lands use of over 25 million western acres [the size of the state of Indiana] including grazing,farming and mining,in order to ''protect'' the Western Sage Grouse,whose numbers run at approximately 100 thousand birds in the West. As with the Spotted Owl controversy in the late 1980s,it is expected that ''tourism'' will replace lost incomes from the above industries and service ancillary jobs that depend on the flourishing of these industries.
        Of course,the enviros lied through their teeth. The regions of the nation where logging was shut down remain impacted to this day,creating large ''welfare regions'' which is precisely the tactics sought in order to end lands use. With few to no jobs,these regions become depopulated, and as a further result,through the NAFTA accord,the US is forced to import more and more foreign lumber,as acknowlaged in a 2007 Commerce Dept. report].
        There is nothing to suggest that this new policy will produce results any differant than that of the owl battle. Already,angry and enraged ranchers and farmers demand what the alternative policy will be,which they already suspect.

        The creation of an increasingly ''meatless'' America,whereby cost associated with lower cattle herd and other livestock size will equate to higher beef,pork and poultry prices that will be sustained by poorer Americans[something Americans were already enduring as the cost of plywood and 2x4/6/8 prices skyrocketed in the 1990s-present]. The above poster to whom you respond is typical of this enviro mindset that evidences no mood for compromise.

        The Idaho Statesman Mar.31,2009 :'' Grass-Fed Beef Rule Pits Two Environmental Groups Against Each Other''.

  • Posted By: dale's had enouph @ 04/10/2009 4:38:51 PM

    Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/10/2009 4:19:12 PM

    for the record, i have hunted in the past.

    but i HUNTED.... no rifles, no scopes, not bait, no traps. bow and arrow.

    half of the time whatever your hunting is out of range and the shot is difficult. but its not about bagging as many animals as possible and only killing them to mount em over your mantle at home.... eat what you kill, dont kill what you wont eat. its called respect.
    ----------------------------------
    your what i call a true hunter, if everyone hunted like this, we wouldn't have the word extinction, and there would always be food

    • Posted By: wiseman4sure1 @ 04/11/2009 2:24:28 AM

      Most of the "Extinctions" happened before the humans apeared. you can call yourself a hunter but the farmland where you hunt in a manmade environment. your Bow would get you very little food in a true wilderness. you would be game for the 20 wolves that will circle you. watch a wolf pack hunt once. they do not kill first. they eat while the animal is dying. it is NOT pretty.

      • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 04/13/2009 11:35:15 AM

        Nature is very rarely pretty.

        • Posted By: SilentObserver_intheCorner @ 04/13/2009 1:05:34 PM

          It's a lot more attractive than human nature.

          • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 04/13/2009 1:26:57 PM

            Are you suggesting humans aren't part of nature?

            • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/13/2009 1:58:33 PM

              yeah, if anything, humans are the most violent animals on the planet. sure a bear might eat a cub once and awhile, but i dont see bears and wolves commiting genocide and dropping nuclear weapons on eachother.

              i always found it interesting that humanity in general holds itself so high above the "animal kingdom" yet we constantly and consistantly show our animal tendancies. we are territorial, we have a pack or herd mentality, we "forage" for food, we reproduce in our "dens", provide for our young, have mating rituals ect....

              personally, im totally fine with being on the "level" with any other animal, because realistically, i am an animal.

      • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 04/13/2009 1:27:28 PM

        WTF? You've been watching too many movies.

      • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/13/2009 10:31:10 AM

        the more i read your comments, the less i think you are wise, and more of a wise-a$$.

        so a bow wouldnt help me survive at all in "true wilderness"....


        hmm...


        seems ive used a bow and arrow for fishing, rabbits, squirrels, wild turkey, deer, birds, boar..... a single rabbit could feed me for several days if rationed/perserved right. something tells me youve never REALLY traversed the wild.


        brother, i was raised in the northern wilderness of minnesota, gods country, dont try and preach to me what i can and cannot accomplish in the wild....ive been doing it most of my life....

      • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/13/2009 10:23:44 AM

        and no, sorry, MOST extinctions of larger mammals happened after humans appeared on the scene...

        mammals, fish, foul.... all have been HUNTED to the brink of extinction, obviously along with other environmental factors/other predators.

        2 words, water-buffalo.

        not to mention:

        cheetahs
        leopards
        eagles of all kinds
        various fish that once were main course dinners
        wolves have almost been extinct thanks to endevours like this
        elephants of various kinds



        i mean really, your not that wise if you cant accept the truth that man is a natural born killer.

      • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/13/2009 10:14:03 AM

        i wouldnt hunt a wolf in the first place...

        your points are so obvious they dont even need to be mentioned.

        ever hear the saying, "wise men dont speak unless they must"?

      • Posted By: buzz13 @ 04/11/2009 8:08:12 AM

        When was the last time you saw a wolf pack (usually the hunting pack is much smaller than 20 animals) kill and eat a human being, and when and where was this?

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/10/2009 5:17:44 PM

      thanks.....

      i try to advocate to other hunters to hunt like that as well. although i choose to not hunt anymore, mainly because i dont need to. and i would rather watch the animals than kill them for say, venison sausage.

      and i support using rifles and such, but again, dont bait your area and sit there waiting for an animal to walk in and blast it with a .22 (or anything bigger w/ scopes) at 15-40 yards from your stand. i just dont see the challenge or the fun in that.

      i would much prefer having to use my instincts/skill/tracking to hunt. thats how our ancestors did it, thats how all of humanity survived from the beginning, it works.


      i actually beat up a guy that was shining deer, just driving around in his truck shooting deer from the road after blinding them with the high beams. that kind of hunting is the lowest form there is. and he was just leaving the carcasses to rot. so, i broke his nose. havent seen him around my cabin since.

      • Posted By: wiseman4sure1 @ 04/11/2009 2:26:17 AM

        lie

        • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/13/2009 10:18:41 AM

          ^wanna be smart ass^

        • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/13/2009 9:36:57 AM

          yes of course.... because you know me.... yes yes, your so wise wiseman4sure. you can see through the internet into my brain and "know" that im lying... your amazing.

          please, you really shouldnt think so highly of yourself.

          and yes, i can and have survived on a bow and arrow. but i dont NEED to "survive" because i can go to the grocery store or grow my own food. thats why i dont hunt anymore. and i wouldnt hunt wolves in the first place, not enough meat to make the kill worth it.

          you want to enlighten me on your bow hunting experiences? since your so "wise4sure"?

  • Posted By: Deosil @ 04/13/2009 1:34:20 PM

    Sarah Palin invited a comedian posing as SARKOZY to the aerial slaughter. It´s just a way for Sarah to hobnob, she is TRULY a KNOB!
    Sarah Palin-Tonya Harding 2012!

  • Posted By: silverstrk @ 04/11/2009 5:06:11 PM

    You terrorists libs all talk the same just like the Democrats, hatred coming out of your ears, and no common sense!.
    And Hollywood idiots right along with you.

    • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 04/13/2009 11:37:23 AM

      "You terrorists libs "

      Hahahahahahaha! What a buffoon.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 04/11/2009 6:04:52 PM

      Did you really say terrorist libs? No hatred coming from you is there? Sounds like someone isn't getting their way and is throwing a two year old, kicking and screaming tantrum. Enjoy, just don't hurt yourself.

      • Posted By: alasknfirst @ 04/12/2009 12:54:47 PM

        thats the most pathetic statement of the day

  • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 04/13/2009 11:34:23 AM

    If you hunt from a helicopter, you're a sissy. End of story.

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