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  • Posted By: bob5540 @ 04/25/2009 1:15:07 AM

    Time To Think About Torture

    By Jonathan Alter
    Newsweek
    November 5, 2001

    In this autumn of anger, even a liberal can find his thoughts turning to ... torture. OK, not cattle prods or rubber hoses, at least not here in the United States, [my emphasis -- ed] but something to jump-start the stalled investigation of the greatest crime in American history. Right now, four key hijacking suspects aren???t talking at all.

    COULDN???T WE AT LEAST subject them to psychological torture, like tapes of dying rabbits or high-decibel rap? (The military has done that in Panama and elsewhere.) How about truth serum, administered with a mandatory IV? Or deportation to Saudi Arabia, land of beheadings? (As the frustrated FBI has been threatening.) Some people still argue that we needn???t rethink any of our old assumptions about law enforcement, but they???re hopelessly ???Sept. 10??????living in a country that no longer exists.

    [...]

    Short of physical torture, there???s always sodium pentothal (???truth serum???). The FBI is eager to try it, and deserves the chance. Unfortunately, truth serum, first used on spies in World War II, makes suspects gabby but not necessarily truthful. The same goes for even the harshest torture. When the subject breaks, he often lies. Prisoners ???have only one objective???to end the pain,??? says retired Col. Kenneth Allard, who was trained in interrogation. ???It???s a huge limitation.???

    Some torture clearly works. Jordan broke the most notorious terrorist of the 1980s, Abu Nidal, by threatening his family. Philippine police reportedly helped crack the 1993 World Trade Center bombings (plus a plot to crash 11 U.S. airliners and kill the pope) by convincing a suspect that they were about to turn him over to the Israelis. Then there???s painful Islamic justice, which has the added benefit of greater acceptance among Muslims.

    We can???t legalize physical torture; it???s contrary to American values. But even as we continue to speak out against human-rights abuses around the world, we need to keep an open mind about certain measures to fight terrorism, like court-sanctioned psychological interrogation. And we???ll have to think about transferring some suspects to our less squeamish allies, even if that???s hypocritical. Nobody said this was going to be pretty.

  • Posted By: bob5540 @ 04/25/2009 1:14:37 AM

    Time To Think About Torture

    By Jonathan Alter
    Newsweek
    November 5, 2001

    In this autumn of anger, even a liberal can find his thoughts turning to ... torture. OK, not cattle prods or rubber hoses, at least not here in the United States, [my emphasis -- ed] but something to jump-start the stalled investigation of the greatest crime in American history. Right now, four key hijacking suspects aren???t talking at all.

    COULDN???T WE AT LEAST subject them to psychological torture, like tapes of dying rabbits or high-decibel rap? (The military has done that in Panama and elsewhere.) How about truth serum, administered with a mandatory IV? Or deportation to Saudi Arabia, land of beheadings? (As the frustrated FBI has been threatening.) Some people still argue that we needn???t rethink any of our old assumptions about law enforcement, but they???re hopelessly ???Sept. 10??????living in a country that no longer exists.

    [...]

    Short of physical torture, there???s always sodium pentothal (???truth serum???). The FBI is eager to try it, and deserves the chance. Unfortunately, truth serum, first used on spies in World War II, makes suspects gabby but not necessarily truthful. The same goes for even the harshest torture. When the subject breaks, he often lies. Prisoners ???have only one objective???to end the pain,??? says retired Col. Kenneth Allard, who was trained in interrogation. ???It???s a huge limitation.???

    Some torture clearly works. Jordan broke the most notorious terrorist of the 1980s, Abu Nidal, by threatening his family. Philippine police reportedly helped crack the 1993 World Trade Center bombings (plus a plot to crash 11 U.S. airliners and kill the pope) by convincing a suspect that they were about to turn him over to the Israelis. Then there???s painful Islamic justice, which has the added benefit of greater acceptance among Muslims.

    We can???t legalize physical torture; it???s contrary to American values. But even as we continue to speak out against human-rights abuses around the world, we need to keep an open mind about certain measures to fight terrorism, like court-sanctioned psychological interrogation. And we???ll have to think about transferring some suspects to our less squeamish allies, even if that???s hypocritical. Nobody said this was going to be pretty.

  • Posted By: jawaralalschwartz @ 04/24/2009 8:22:00 PM

    On Olbermann's show tonight, Friday, April 24, Jonathan, you seemed obviously scared and reluctant to say that you think Cheney wants us to be attacked. you obviously think that, as many wise people do, but you chickened out. please say what you think. thanks. jawaralal s.

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