Since Americans have so much free time, perhaps you should each write letters of condolence to the families of the the millions of innocent victims of war, including the nearly 1 million innocent who were murdered in Iraq due to America's "Shock and Awe". Just a thought.
WORLD AFFAIRS
The Crafty Superpower
By turns charming and cagey, cool to America and close to Obama, Lula is building a unique regional giant.
Published Apr 18, 2009
From the magazine issue dated Apr 27, 2009
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Posted By: Valeria225 @ 05/13/2009 5:59:51 PM
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Posted By: Valeria225 @ 05/13/2009 5:29:02 PM
Americans have nothing better to do than keep going on and on about this child? There are millions of missing children in the world in very terrible conditions, yet Americans are obsessed with this young boy who is afforded everything in life. Maybe the USA should focus on the economy, the war, saving homes, and restoring America's name in the world. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time other than OBSESS over this child when millions are missing? Jeeeez.
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Posted By: CRSBrazilAustralia @ 05/05/2009 2:42:48 PM
Sean´s case will be decided by the Justice, period!
No one can decide by the local press who is right, the Brazilian Justice will decide, if is better go to his father in US or stay in Brazil with his grands and his SISTER.
No one knows exactly how is Mr. Goldman, if he is what he says or what Mr. Lins says.
The best thing right now is wait, and decide who and where is the best place for the boy, and where HE wants to be.
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Posted By: CRSBrazilAustralia @ 05/05/2009 2:42:30 PM
Sean´s case will be decided by the Justice, period!
No one can decide by the local press who is right, the Brazilian Justice will decide, if is better go to his father in US or stay in Brazil with his grands and his SISTER.
No one knows exactly how is Mr. Goldman, if he is what he says or what Mr. Lins says.
The best thing right now is wait, and decide who and where is the best place for the boy, and where HE wants to be.
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Posted By: DisgustedWithBrazil @ 05/05/2009 10:33:04 AM
"governed by the rule of law instead of the whims of autocrats" Not in the Sean Goldman case it hasnt. Brazil needs to do the right thing and return this boy to his FATHER, not left to this stranger who "always wanted a son". If you want a son Mr. Lins da Silva, get some other woman pregnant with the "right" sex baby since you couldn't do it with Bruna.
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Posted By: Teena*D @ 04/22/2009 12:57:28 PM
This is all wonderful news about Brazil. BUT you failed to mention that Brazil does not comply with international laws. I think that is worth mentioning since it IS a big deal. The Hague Convention which Brazil is a signatory of states that a child must be returned to its state of habitual residence within 6 weeks from being kidnapped by a parent. There are 56 PLUS cases where Brazil has ignored it's obligations. How can Brazil be considered a seat in the UN when the Judicial System refuses to comply with an international treaty? Even after being cited year after year? Brazil is a safe haven for kidnappers. There are parents all over the world missing their children...missing their first step, their first ball game....tucking them in at night. To name a FEW of the children are Sean Goldman, Nicole Pate, the Bindler kids (4 children), Anna and Paul Weinstein, Nadia Drummond, Emily Machado, Lucas Larivee, Lorenzo Ayubo, Israel and Yoshua Bordaty, Victor Collins, the Reilly Twins, Kelvin Birotte and MANY more. This is a travesty. Some of the parents have been fighting for over 5 years! Which gives the parents who have recently had their children kidnapped little or no hope. If the Brazilian government does not reunite parents with their children....it should not matter what good they have done because right now they are viiolating human rights.
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Posted By: jose.bon@uol.com.br @ 04/22/2009 1:45:56 PM
I would love to know why people who dont leave in Brazil or are not Brazilians know about our respect to human rigths. I´m from São Paulo and I´m really proud of Lula´s performance in international scenario. Brazil, off course, is not a perfect country like other nations all over the world. However, we making the most to be a great nation, and we do have respect to the others. Sean Goldman case, as far as I know, is not Brazilians people mistake. This children also has a brazilian family and they are "fighting" to keep him with them. This is a legal discussion not a common sense and it isn´t reflect brazilians people opinion. I suggest the critics to inform yourselves before write unfair posts about my nation.
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Posted By: dmdaven2 @ 04/22/2009 3:00:46 PM
How about the US send a Atom Bomb to your nation and turn it into as Super Pile of Dust within seconds...there's nothing about Brazil worth speaking of...except the fact that you harbour criminals and keep abducted children in your country neglecting to abide by a National Treaty you acceeded to in 2003...shame
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Posted By: josedasilva @ 05/04/2009 8:14:00 PM
Why don't you sit on an A-bomb and blow your ass up. dmdaven?
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Posted By: BrasilHope @ 05/01/2009 2:41:35 PM
JoseBon, Sean has a Brazilian family (you mean Grandmother and Granfather) but as far as I know, FATHER trumps Grandparents. Do you forget he has a family in America too? Grandparents, aunt, cousins? Do you even know about the case? Do you kow he was taken without his father's consent (other than a short vacation) to the US? Do you even know the Brazilian step-father has done EVERYTHING he can do stop Sean from "conviver" with his real father? So we all agree here that Brazil has improved an such, but no one is happy with its treatment of the Sean Goldman case.
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Posted By: WendyI @ 04/22/2009 2:56:23 PM
This is not abour the Brazilian people, this is about the Brazilian governments appalling failure to abide by the agreements it has signed. You say Sean has a "family" in Brazil?? What about a parent?!?! He has NO parent in Brazil...by what rights do you believe that a child should be taken from a loving and fit parent? This post is not unfair but is supported by the FACTS. Brazil has been cited for non-compliance of the Hague Convention for four solid years. This is the fact.
You can choose to continue to bury your head in the sand or you can stand up to the truth and demand change and justice in your country...the people of Brazil are the only ones who are going to make the changes that are required in order for Brazil to escape the "dark ages" of it's current judiciary. -
Posted By: Teena*D @ 04/22/2009 2:05:38 PM
As far as you know....isn't the Brazilian peoples mistake? It is a Brazilian families mistake. Bruna Bianchi Ribiero kidnapped her son and now the Ribieros and the Lins e Silvas are continueing this nightmare. Sean has a father that did nothing to deserve having his son taken from him. I know enough about the Brazilian judicial system to know that 5 years is way to long to decide whether or not it should abide by the international treaty it sighned.
FACT: Brazil signed the Hague Convention in 1980
FACT: The Hague says Sean should have been returned to the US within 6 weeks
FACT: Sean has STILL not been returned
FACT: Brazil has been cited for the last 3 years for not complying with the Hague.
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Posted By: dmdaven2 @ 04/22/2009 2:48:30 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself
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Posted By: SilkSpectre @ 04/22/2009 8:38:10 PM
Brazil a superpower and child abductions.... I don't see how one thing has anything to do with the other.
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Posted By: WendyI @ 04/22/2009 9:43:49 PM
Touting a country as a "superpower" when it fails to recognize the socio-economic crises that are faced by it's citizens every day is negligent. Brazil is a safe haven for child-abductors. Calling it a Superpower when it has no respect for the human rights of our most vulnerable citizens is a travesty.
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Posted By: SilkSpectre @ 04/22/2009 10:20:14 PM
USA, Germany,Russia, England and others have killed millions of innocent people. Those countries have done more harm to the world than Brazil ever will, But they are still powerhouses, aren't they?
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Posted By: dmdaven2 @ 04/23/2009 12:09:45 PM
Yes because those countries in spite of the bad...do things greater that essentially serve a greater cause...Brazil hasn't really done anything too great to be called a superpower especially when it's harbouring criminals...
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Posted By: SilkSpectre @ 04/23/2009 2:21:56 PM
Okay, What ''great'' things has Russia done? or What great things has Germany done? Get your facts straight before you come the internet to criticize what you know nothing about! I don't blame you tho, I blame whatever shitty school you attended. Are you in the US? have you even finished high school? You know that the USA has the highest rate of high school drop out in the 1st world, right? You are also aware that only half of Americans have a college degree, right?
Did your wife/husband take your child to Brazil? Good! your kid is going to be happier there and I hope you never see your child again because you seem pretty sick in the head to me. If you have a child in Brazil, WHY did your wife/husband run away? maybe because you are mentally ill? You sure talk like one. If you don't like Brazil, why did you have a child with a brazilian? So, guess what? YOUR PROBLEM.
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Posted By: BrasilHope @ 05/01/2009 2:28:13 PM
SilSpectre: your response to dmhaven shows what an angry, bitter, jealous person you are. I think you are the one with the problems you are accusing him off.
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Posted By: WendyI @ 04/22/2009 10:25:50 PM
I'm sure they are...but since my focus right now is on the failure of Brazil to enforce the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction, I think I'll stick to what I know....and that is Brazils glarling non-compliance of this International law. Since this article is focussing on Brazil as a "Superpower" , this is the country I am focussed on at the moment.
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Posted By: arthurbboy @ 04/26/2009 5:58:42 PM
Don´t forget: it´s not Lula´s policy, it´s Fernando Henrique Cardoso policy.
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Posted By: BrasilHope @ 05/01/2009 2:23:22 PM
Alllison (funny you choose an American name to hide behind), you are most probably a member of the LeS/Ribeiro Carneiro family. See your comment: " the JUSTICE in Brazil gave her the rights over him"
Yes, the Justice in Brazil ONLY. The justice of the USA, where the boy was born and spent the first 4 years of his life, had no say, right? Do you forget that a child does not belong to one parent only? It's made of a spermatozoid AND an ovulum? And the moher is DEAD, so the father is the only person in the world who has rights over that boy, the ONLY one. Period. Now go back to JP and tell him that. And tell him to return the child that is not his ASAP.
Stop the Brazil vs. USA. What is wrong here is Brazil protecting CHILD ABDUCTORS.
Do not give any Brazilians VISA to the US until this case is solved and the boy returned!
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Posted By: Oswaldo @ 04/22/2009 1:33:29 PM
Very good story. Congratulations Mac Margolis: Brazil as well as Lula deserves to be in this international spotlight. To those who criticize Brazil for supposedly have abducted that youg American-Brazilian boy let me tell you that he, the boy, has expressed to the judge that he wants to stay in Rio; his biological father never returned his calls and he feels at home with his actual family; his grandparents from his mother side, stepfather and stepgrandparents. Turning this issue into a political onte doens't make any good to this young kid and, definitely, it does not affect Brazil compliance with The Hague Convention. Please, these arguments are simply laughable! Viva o Brasil, a very craft superpower!
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Posted By: WendyI @ 04/23/2009 10:25:14 PM
Oswoldo...how much exactly is Joao Paulo Lens e Silva paying you anyway? It's so blatant as to be pathetic. You probably get a few dollars in your pocket to yap off about something that you know absolutely NOTHING about. And you think that people reading here can't see through that?? PLEASE!
www.bringseanhome.org
BRAZIL MUST SEND SEAN TO HIS ONLY LIVING AN BIOLOGICAL FATHER NOW!!!-
Posted By: Brazilian @ 04/26/2009 2:16:34 AM
Wendyl little woman, how much money are you making asking people to donate money to your bringshamehome.org ??? You are a bunch of bored people from NJ, just like Bruna was forced to be and now you want the boy to live a boring life too? Oh, excuse me, in fact you don´t want him to come back, cause then you will not receive the donations anymore...At channel Band, Dia a Dia show, they count 72% of the brazilian do NOT think the boy should ever go back to the US...Just desperated immigrants support you, guess why? The boy will not go back because Brazil is better for him, you will like that, cause you will keep receiving the donations, thanks to Brazil...
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Posted By: BrasilHope @ 05/01/2009 2:17:14 PM
Hey Brazilian: boring? Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how full is the life of a boy his age in America? How he will be busy with school, sports and his friends? Boring is being a prisoner of a high security condo in Rio, without being able to walk in the streeets freely. Sean willl have the ocean nearby, Sean will have the river, Sean will have Manhattan next door with hundreds of opportunities. AND THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE: the issue is that the boy was abducted from his HOME and needs to go back ASAP! Brazilian government and Judicial system, shame on you!!!
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Posted By: SilkSpectre @ 04/23/2009 11:38:54 PM
By that logic someone could ask you the same pathetic question: How much is the Goldman family paying you to chirp and moan on the internet? But I highly doubt that the Goldman would hire some retard like you to make these moronic comments on an article that has nothing to with what they are fighting for.
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Posted By: dmdaven2 @ 04/24/2009 2:07:01 PM
Hey what's you logical explanation as to why Sean shouldn't be with his biological father?
Imagine this, considering you had a great relationship with your parents (for my example i will assume you did) And you could go back in time, and you were taken away though this time and raised by other people, and never knew your real parents. Knowing how great your real parents could have been to you, despite how well you may have been raised by a psuedo family, wouldn't you feel like you missed out? wouldn't you regret not having been raised by your REAL parents?
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Posted By: Brazilian @ 04/26/2009 2:27:14 AM
Your are just another unemployed hero trying to fit at this bringshamehome.org. Get a job, stop pretending you could raise a child. You can breed, but its obvius you fail to understand what it takes to be a real man.Your woman did not found you a REAL MAN, thats when your Brazil issue started, it was right there and anyone can see that, stop crying, get a job and grown up. That´s an order.
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Posted By: SilkSpectre @ 04/24/2009 3:58:50 PM
I think it's sad that Mr Goldman haven't been able to be with his son. I hope things work out good for them. But it's unfair to crucify a whole country because of the actions of a few people. There are bad people and good people EVERYWHERE.
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Posted By: sky38994 @ 04/24/2009 3:27:04 PM
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Posted By: BrasilHope @ 05/01/2009 2:10:45 PM
Osvaldo~s comments are totally off base. The boy has said what the step-father has told him to say. Brainwash a young immature mind for 5 years and he wil start believing what his current caregivers are tellling him. That is called PARENTAL ALIENATION Osvaldo, in case you don't understand child psychology. What is being done to this boy is complete psychological abuse. They have no right to tell this boy his father did not care for him when in reality David has done EVERYTHING he can, except violent actions, to get his son back. Thanks but no thanks Osvaldo, for spreading miisinformation on a serous site such as Newsweek.
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Posted By: dmdaven2 @ 04/22/2009 2:52:53 PM
More like a Super Bag of Sh*t...All this pride in a country that is worthless...how about abide by treaties you sign and earn some respect...or we as your superior country will make sure your back on 3rd World status before you can say VIVA
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Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/22/2009 3:49:00 PM
Mr dmdaven2
My pride to be Brazilian is not inflicted by your lack of good manners. The word ???worthless??? is disrespectful, but I???m assuming you are taking it personally towards my country due to some non deliberate ignorance on Brazil.-
Posted By: Teena*D @ 04/22/2009 3:59:10 PM
Actually he is taking it personally because his daughter was abducted in February of this year to Brazil. She is only 8 months old and he is missing possibly her first steps, words, teeth. I think it is hard to be "well mannered" when your child has been taken from you and you don't even know if she is ok!
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Posted By: Lucigirl @ 04/22/2009 5:28:30 PM
good for you that you have pride in being Brazilian. Good for me that I am very proud to be an amercian. YOU HAVE MUCH TO LEARN MY FRIEND. A " Crafty: SUPERPOWER? LMAO, I don't quite think your country is at that point .
so tell me big shot , if your wife abducted your child simply because she got tired of you, what would you do? put your tail between your legs and cry Mommy help me? WHAT WOULD YOU DO ? I think you are problably an educated person , but you lack common sense. and lack a few traits .
so the next time you open your mouth , I suggest you consider what David Goldman is going through , and Devon Davenport, and the rest of the american children that have been abducted from their homes by a parent and taken to your " safe Haven " country . Yes, Bruna abducted the child , brazil just aids and abetts . The facts jack and only the facts. Do your research-
Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/22/2009 6:24:15 PM
Mrs. Lucigirl
That is great that we are both proud of our countries.
Yours are strong remarks full of emotion and I understand that. My common sense is guided by reasoning which I believe is hard to find in you in this case. I am sorry for the candid remark.
Brazilian judicial system does need to improve and that is a fact, but to assert anything else out of emotion is just unjustifiable.
Well, you said I have much to learn and I probably do. Actually I???m doing this right now by observing how difficult it is for some people to act rationally and not guided by their feelings. I say that because tribunals are not emotional, ok? Law is cold and you should thank me for telling you that.
To cry out how inferior and ineffective the Brazil judicial system is with some offensive general comments will not solve the issue. This is easy to understand for most of the people....II mean some people.
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Posted By: Lucigirl @ 04/23/2009 11:01:39 AM
Well Mr Roliveira, The only thing I can say to you , is that I can and Do think Rationally. I am also a well educated woman.
You call me emotional , I call Myself passionate . I have Empathy , especially when I hear the desperate cries of the the parents who have lost their children Through Abduction. I am not against Brazil in any way shape or form. However what I am against , is that Brazil has become a " safe Haven " for abducted children. and yes , the Judical system in your country is very far from perfect. and as you say " the law is cold" . David Goldman has been fighting to get his child sean back for Five years ! Brazil has taken away David's Rights to his child.
The hague treaty was introduced and Brazil signed that treaty. your country has been cited numerous times in the years for non compliance to the very treaty that they have signed.
my question to you is, IF you had children and they were taken from you, what would you do. ?
I have two wonderful children . I cannot even imagine not being able to touch them, kiss, them, read them a bedtime story, tuck them in bed at night, tell them I love them , take care of them when they are sick . and watch them grow up to be bright, educated , well balanced happy adults, This is not a case of Brazil Vs USA. It is a case full of facts and documents that has been entered into our judicial system here in the US that the left Behind parents HAVE RIGHTS .
NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS. and they deserve to have their children returned to them without question.
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Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/23/2009 11:56:12 AM
Many thanks Mrs. Lucigirl.
You say you are not emotional, but passionate instead. I do not quite understand the difference, but I take your point as I am a father as well. Everyone has the right to express solidarity, empathy or sympathy for a case and even be a little non-strictly-rational sometimes, but this does not include making biased or derogatory remarks about a country as I have been reading of some in this forum.
You can notice that I have never said a word about the merit of the case and without being a legal expert I wound say Brazil should comply with the treaty. That is it. I am not saying anything different, but I feel obliged to make sure you understand the difference between the adherence of a treaty to the quality of the entire nation judicial system or even the entire country.
Two examples to make things clear for you: after the Katrina hurricane that hit New Orleans money was gathered to assist the victims and it was detected that some congressmen assistants were actually using the money with other things like girl-escort services. Does that make the entire judicial system of the most democratic nation in the world less solid? Or worthless? The answer is NO! When the USA recently broke Geneva conventions by torturing people with the acquiescence of high members of Bush???s staff with Mr. Dick Cheney even saying a mocking and unacceptable ???it worked???, does it make the entire USA a country that does not comply with international law? The answer is NO! On the contrary, many countries have a lot to thank yours for even existing!
The child is far from his father and that is bad. A treaty was broken? Let us go to the international courts, speak to your Secretary of State, talk to you congressmen, but to make generalizing statements against a country in a chat in NEWSWEEK does not attack the problem!
When you say ??????This is not the case of Brazil Vs USA?????? I am assuming you are specifically talking about this case and not generalizing again. As I do not comment the allusion made in ??????well balanced adults??????.-
Posted By: Lucigirl @ 04/23/2009 5:54:30 PM
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Posted By: alissonf @ 04/29/2009 3:53:58 PM
Sean IS at home.
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Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/23/2009 9:04:27 PM
OK, end of story.
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Posted By: Brazilian @ 04/26/2009 2:48:54 AM
lucigirl, who are you to judge sucessful people? Just because your life failed and you must hide behind your flag, cause thats the only thing left to you, you think you are allowed to have any power? Read this: your are powerless for life, start dealing with that quickly cause thats what you´ll have to deal till you die. The fact you are born in a richer or poorer country does not measure your personal skills. There are millions of brazilians living the life you dream of living but sure that will be just a dream for ever. So take your prozac pills and stop being arrogant as americans (from Americo Vespucci, Major Captain for India, italian, sailing for the Spanish and Portuguese empires, who has never been to North America, landed in Rio, so then we decided to name the entire continent America to honor his skills) usually are.
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Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/22/2009 4:47:04 PM
Mrs Teena*D
I really don???t believe that a country is worthless because of one decision on one judicial case. I respect the dissatisfaction of Mr dmdaven2, but one should always prefer reasoning to emotionality in order to actually solve a problem. The worthlessness of my country is not larger or smaller because of one case, however serious it be to Mr dmdaven2.
To make it even more clear for you I wouldn???t say that entire United States of America is worthless because what you do in Guantanamo. You are a great nation and if I were to disagree with Guantanamo I???d put some specific rationale for the reasons I repudiate it, but never assert a generic unfair remark on your country as a whole.-
Posted By: dmdaven2 @ 04/22/2009 5:34:39 PM
You're exactly right, I purposely wrote an ignorant comment about your country (Brazil), something you feel very strongly about and are astonished how much merit my comment(s) lack(s)...I wrote it not only to bring attention to the fact that my comment is uncalled for and meritless due to facts, but to shed light to anyone defending Brazil's non-compliance as a signatory to the Hague Treaty that essentially, my meritless comment about something you are passionate about is similar to many comments concerning Sean Goldman being better off without his biological father in Brazil. I hoped to bring this issue up psychologically by showing ignorance towards your country which is the only way I could get through to you on a similar level, as many of you haven't had your child abducted hence can't relate directly with many of our pleadings that David Goldman and Sean Goldman (as well as all other LBP and abducted children) are suffering due to this non-compliance and the effects are detrimental and irreversible. Me saying idiotic things about your country, hurts you all just as much as the support of Brazilian Judiciary non-compliance hurts me and other LBP. I apologize if anyone was offended, but it was necessary to ATTEMPT to prove my point to all those who do not support justice in the fact that Sean Goldman should undoubtedly be returned expeditiously to the United States with his biological father David, regardless of adaptation or likeness to Brazil. The fact is, to keep a child somewhere illegally for ANY amount of time, regardless of what transpires for that child amongst their illegal detainment in that country is irrelevant and ultimately wrong, not only morally but most importantly wrong in terms of a Treaty signed by Brazil called the Hague Treaty in which all signatories of this Treaty were fully aware of the articles enumerated in the Convention and agreed to abide by. It is wrong, and essentially dishonorable to sign and then neglect to uphold a standard of cooperation with a participating country in the Hague, yet expect to be held as a country, in high regards. It does not coincide and cannot be forgotten. Compliance is a must, and until we unify to correct the wrongs, not only of Brazil, but of Mexico, the United States ourselves, as well as any country that does not fulfill their duties under the Hague Convention an enforce it to the fullest extent, yielding 100% compliance, there will be injustice, and disconnect between opposing countries involved in the conflict of International Child Abduction.
Thanks
Again I apologize for my comments, yet it was a strategic plan to incorporate a mutual feeling between many of you and I so that you understood that as a LBP to see comments going against the Hague and Sean coming home, is totally offensive, and I hope you will realize, what is right is right and what is wrong (regardless of logical explanation)-
Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/22/2009 5:52:06 PM
Mr dmaven2
I accept your apologies after reading your note. I understand that you had a strategic plan to be heard by a larger audience and sometimes we simply don???t know what else to do, but I assure you that offending a nation is not a good thing to do when law is involved and you have such a serious claim.
I strongly recommend that you seek more legal advice in USA and in Brazil as well as improve your contacts with other people in your situation, as I believe you have already done. On top of that perhaps talk to your congressmen and try to act on a political as well as diplomatic front.-
Posted By: dmdaven2 @ 04/22/2009 7:00:23 PM
Trust me i've done everything you've suggested...the problem is I shouldn't have to do anything...there's already a Treaty in place to handle this issue, the problem is your country isn't abiding...that's unacceptable, and then to be called a super power is almost saying that your countries non-compliance is being over looked. I would suggest if you care about the issue to encourage your fellow brazilians to do the right thing and return our children.
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Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/22/2009 8:19:34 PM
OK.
If you are not satisfied with a position taken by Brazil or any other country on a foreign matter you should go to an international court. If you can???t do it by yourself with your lawyer n the US you should speak to your congressmen or your secretary of state for assistance. They should be able to address this as an international affair under United Nations or with the Brazilian diplomatic representation in Washington.
As per your comment on me encouraging Brazilians to assist you I???m not quite sure what you mean, but if you want people to act on your behalf in Brazil you should hire a lawyer.-
Posted By: dmdaven2 @ 04/23/2009 12:03:59 PM
You're providing suggestions to me as if you've been through this before...but you haven't, you're merely an outsider logically attempting to debate the LBP standpoint to defend your country only because you were born there...My only point to you now is raising awareness to you and your peers or co-signers that your country, regardless of it's other achievements has a large black cloud of dishonor hanging over it due to it's lack of compliance with a National Treaty. Therefore if you want to help...stop responding in defense of your country because logically written or not...Brazil is wrong, you're not helping by debating. Only thing I would like from you is for you to encourage your peers in Brazil that this is an issue and it's intolerable...join the www.bringseanhome.org read our stories, see our children and educate yourself on the trauma us LBP go through. Then i'd find it hard to believe you'd have the same mindset you have now.
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Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/23/2009 9:03:17 PM
I am also a father and you actually don???t know what I had done for my child so please focus on what you know. Despite of this your note is totally clear and has no allusions to anything except the sincere discussion of your claim. It also has no emotion and I congratulate you for that.
I???ll certainly take a look at the web site.
Good luck!
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Posted By: Teena*D @ 04/22/2009 4:55:16 PM
I do not believe your whole country is worthless. I never said that. And if you want to discuss Guantanamo that is a whole other story.This is NOT a US vs. Brazil issue. US is FAr from perfect. I can admit that. Why can't some Brazillians admit that their country is flawed? If my country were the one in non compliance I would be just as outraged. We are not talking about energy or money here. We are talking about PEOPLE'S CHILDREN. You are failing to realize that it is not just one case. It is over 60 JUST from the US.
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Posted By: ROliveira @ 04/22/2009 5:26:37 PM
Mrs Teena*D
Thanks for your time and I believe we always learn when exploring the flaws and good things of our world in a respectful manner. I???m not saying that we don???t have issues, on the contrary, I haven???t made any point on Brazil???s Hague Convention adherence and compliance.
I utterly admit that Brazil has many issues, but I ask you to read two statement made by Mr dmdaven2: ??????All this pride in a country that is worthless?????? and ??????.we as your superior country will make sure your back on 3rd World status before you can say VIVA???.???
This can???t be justified by his personal issues despite of their importance to him. I did took the comments above very unkindly and the Guantanamo mention was just an attempt to make a parallel, but this is another issue as a matter of fact.
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Posted By: Teena*D @ 04/22/2009 5:03:26 PM
Furthermore....although I do not agree with dmdaven2's outburst I can sympathize b/c if I were in his shoes I think I would hurt someone. I believe in his situation it is very hard for him NOT to be emotional. My first and most primal instinct is to protect my children and I don't think I could live one day without them.
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Posted By: alissonf @ 04/27/2009 10:14:57 AM
LMAO!!!! Man, we are REALLY REALLY afraid of this terrible threaten!!!!!
As I said before: you guys don't care for Sean, you're just thinking about the stupid US pride. Is Justice really thinks about the boy, he won't be taken away from the people he loves, just like that. -
Posted By: Brazilian @ 04/26/2009 2:34:29 AM
dmdaven2 , guantanamo boy, are you trying to insinuate the US respect any international law? LMAO.
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Posted By: BrasilHope @ 04/22/2009 5:35:02 PM
Helvecio, oops, Osvaldo, I think your comments are laughable. First of all you simply forget Sean's family in the US: father, grandparents, aunt and cousins. Second, you claim the boy doesn't want to return. Of course not! He has been brainwashed by his abductors! This ia a typcial case of parental alienation. Our country has to be ashamed, very ashamed, of helping child abductors. No one should let their spouses travel to Brazil with minor children, no one. Also, the US should take some actions against Brazil. Sean is an American citizen before he became a Brazilian citizen. He was born in the US, the very country his abductors try to badmoth him against. Wait until Sean finds out the whole story and has some maturity, he will HATE Joap Paulo and his grandparents. Just wait.
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Posted By: Ceilli @ 04/22/2009 3:19:58 PM
Brazil didn???t abduct the child, his mother did. However, if the Rio judicial system would have upheld the Hague, there would never be a dispute about phone calls and extended families. Bruna should have entered into a legal agreement for custody when she was alive. And now that she has unfortunately died, David???s parental right must be restored. In a legal document, there is an admission from Grandpa Ribeiro of hanging up on David. So Sean may believe that phone calls were not returned but that is what he is being told. Nice try. And laughable? I don???t see anything funny about having a child taken from you and then kept away from you for 5 years. I don???t see anything funny about a child missing having a relationship from his parent. So very sad.
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Posted By: Ceilli @ 04/22/2009 3:19:33 PM
Brazil didn???t abduct the child, his mother did. However, if the Rio judicial system would have upheld the Hague, there would never be a dispute about phone calls and extended families. Bruna should have entered into a legal agreement for custody when she was alive. And now that she has unfortunately died, David???s parental right must be restored. In a legal document, there is an admission from Grandpa Ribeiro of hanging up on David. So Sean may believe that phone calls were not returned but that is what he is being told. Nice try. And laughable? I don???t see anything funny about having a child taken from you and then kept away from you for 5 years. I don???t see anything funny about a child missing having a relationship from his parent. So very sad.
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Posted By: WendyI @ 04/22/2009 3:01:04 PM
Oswoldo, if you have children then let me ask you this...when they say they want to eat chocolate for supper do you let them? Every day? Would you let them drive a car because that is what they want? Would you let them quit school at the age of 8? Of course you would do NONE of these things because an 8 year old CHILD is not able to make logical decisions regarding their lives! Where were YOU when Sean was taken from his father almost 5 years ago?! Did anyone give a crap THEN about what he wanted?!!? No ONE CARED that he loved his father then, why should they care now? Because it's what THEY want and NOT what is best for Sean. Sean as the RIGHT to be raised by his father! Period.
Further, your argument only further goes to magnify the corruption of a country that would allow biased snippets of the psychological evaluation of a child to be "leaked" to the media! That in itself PROOVES to me, beyond the shadow of a doubt, how sick these people are that they would violate the private thoughts of an 8 year old child! And you defend that!? SHAME on you!-
Posted By: WendyI @ 04/22/2009 3:06:45 PM
Further, before you quote things, you should make sure you have the facts! Seans father David filed his Hague Convention case 6 weeks after his return plane ticket expired. He has been fighting to get his son back ever since! Instead of blindly believing everything your corrupt O'Globo feeds to you, why don't you try researching the facts before you regurgitate lies. You should be embarrassed to even comment on this case when you clearly believe whatever line of garbage monied people feed to you! Shame on you!
BRAZIL HAS BEEN CITED, INTERNATIONALLY, for non-compliance! This is not an argument, it is a FACT! Do your research before spouting such garbage!
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Posted By: airstrike @ 04/28/2009 2:29:26 PM
Many say that Lula's attempts to get a seat in the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) failed miserably. While that may very well be so, in the months that followed, particularly after the emergence of this current crisis, Lula and his diplomats have worked the most important world leaders into friends and placed Brazil back in focus in the international arena. The high contrast between the Brazilian leader and his peers in South America (namely in Caracas and La Paz) has increased the odds that this strategy will have results akin to those intended with the adamant search for the UNSC position.
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Posted By: dusao @ 04/28/2009 1:11:38 AM
What do these stupid arguments have to do with anything???
Would it make any sense for anyone to say USA is not what it is because of GUANTANAMO? Or Maddoff???
Let's get back to bizz: Brazil has not had any turbulence on its financial system lately, in spite of what's going on in the world. No banks went down, no financial scheme destroyed anyone's confidence and so on.
So yes, Brazil is everything that was written about on the article.
It's about time some ignorance desapears in this wonderful country of yours.
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Posted By: alissonf @ 04/27/2009 10:06:50 AM
What amazes me most is to see Americans claiming for less "stupid patriotism" whey they themselves do not see thei own stupid patriotism when it comes to this case. Almost nobody (and certainly not most Americans) are thinking about Sean, what you're really worried about is the stupid "U.S. sovereignty". It's not about his life, it's all about american national pride.
If both sides were really thinking about the boy, they would try to find a way of having both families with him. But all you can say is "abducting", etc.. and the kid was not abductted, he came to HIS country (he's also a brazilian citizen) with HIS mother, and the JUSTICE in Brazil gave her the rights over him. And about the Hague Convention, you really WANT to misinterpret it, don't you??
Anyway, if you're SOOOO worried about Sean, stop thinking about you national pride for just a second and try to imagine how it will be for him to be taken away from all the people he loves and the only life he knows.
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Posted By: Brazilian @ 04/26/2009 3:00:09 AM
how much money are you making asking people to donate money to your bringshamehome.org ??? You are a bunch of bored people from NJ, just like Bruna was forced to be and now you want the boy to live a boring life too? Oh, excuse me, in fact you don´t want him to come back, cause then you will not receive the donations anymore...At channel Band, Dia a Dia show, they count 72% of the brazilian do NOT think the boy should ever go back to the US...Just desperated immigrants support you, guess why? The boy will not go back because Brazil is better for him, you will like that, cause you will keep receiving the donations, thanks to Brazil...
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Posted By: hatufim-org @ 04/26/2009 12:58:21 AM
My children have been abducted in Brazil for more than 2 years (www.hatufim.org). It would be great if Brazil would honor its obligations under the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of Child Abduction and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Children. This would really indicate that Brazil is making real progress.
Brazil is an amazing country and Brazilians are some of the nicest and friendliest people in the world. But why are you refusing to return abducted children home? By the way, I have always been a fan of the Brazilian foot-ball (soccer) team. But I just cannot understand why Brazil is causing so much suffering to so many people in regards to the abducted children to Brazil. Thank you for your support.
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Posted By: frbilheri @ 04/25/2009 5:56:27 AM
I'm Brazilian and I DO want to see Sean living with his father.
But, just to let you know, I prefer to be a "banana republic", following the international agreements, than just to be an "elite" country.
I don't want to talk about all the US mistakes becouse I really like your country.
Think better about what you said.
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Posted By: whartn @ 04/24/2009 7:15:29 PM
President Lula should speed up his Federal Court to make a decision on the Sean Goldman case.David Goldman has waited 5 years for justice.Brasil should not act like a "banana republic",if it wants to join the elite of America/Europe/Asia.
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Posted By: hatufim-org @ 04/24/2009 12:32:51 AM
My children have been abducted in Brazil for more than 2 years (www.hatufim.org). It would be great if Brazil would honor its obligations under the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of Child Abduction and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Children. This would really indicate that Brazil is making real progress.
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Posted By: danieltkd2003 @ 04/24/2009 10:01:07 AM
I agree, but there's many other things that we are having Real Progress.
I believe the Brazil is getting better than used to be in the past, included social problems as you mentioned.
But, this kind of problems happen in many contries, even in the called "1st world contries".
Despite Brazil until have many problems, the progress is real and the president and all the people is acting to become Brazil into a better nation, not only in economic field but also in overal aspects
Ps. Sorry for my poor english
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Posted By: sky38994 @ 04/24/2009 8:13:15 AM
Knowing Brazil some 32 years I really don???t thing Brazil is a better country today than it was in the 1970s, if something it is worse. Even though hyperinflation and military dictatorship have been eradicated and replaced by a more stable economy and free elections, too much crime, drug trafficking, violence and corruption of Brazil are ruling the every day life so much in all parts of society, that the country is slowly but surely falling apart instead of putting its act together.
Last but not the least, I have followed this Sean Goldman abduction case for some time. And I have come to the conclusion that even when it comes to such a clear cut example of what is right and wrong and respect of human rights, the country can???t get its act together , but create more problems instead of solving them.
Even though I have had a long relation with Brazil, I personally boycott Brazil from now on until I see lots of radical changes in the nation when it comes to improved human right issues and a more international openness and awareness instead of this bullish patriotism.
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Posted By: sky38994 @ 04/24/2009 8:12:54 AM
Knowing Brazil some 32 years I really don???t thing Brazil is a better country today than it was in the 1970s, if something it is worse. Even though hyperinflation and military dictatorship have been eradicated and replaced by a more stable economy and free elections, too much crime, drug trafficking, violence and corruption of Brazil are ruling the every day life so much in all parts of society, that the country is slowly but surely falling apart instead of putting its act together.
Last but not the least, I have followed this Sean Goldman abduction case for some time. And I have come to the conclusion that even when it comes to such a clear cut example of what is right and wrong and respect of human rights, the country can???t get its act together , but create more problems instead of solving them.
Even though I have had a long relation with Brazil, I personally boycott Brazil from now on until I see lots of radical changes in the nation when it comes to improved human right issues and a more international openness and awareness instead of this bullish patriotism.
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Posted By: gugaalexandria @ 04/24/2009 12:10:56 AM
I'm a Brazilian and the comments on this article drew my attention to Sean's case. I searched the internet a little and according to the information I found David Goldman was right in the first place. It's no good attacking Brazil and Brazilians over this, but I understand the frustration with the slow pace of the legal action.
The Supreme Court is now analysing the case and ist ministers are have thorough knowledge of international law. So we can expect the rightful outcome, and so enough Sean will be heading home to the US,
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