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  • Posted By: Constitution Lover @ 05/17/2009 7:28:26 AM

    bkrummel,

    It has been a pleasure conversing with such an intelligent person on these boards (a true rarity). As the current semester has come to a close for both my wife and myself, and as we are both lucky to have been awarded year long sabbaticals next year, we are getting ready to go on our summer vacation (lots of travelling and actually two same-sex marriages being held at Christain churches in Massachusetts, one in june and one in July, my wife is to be matron of honor at one of them.) We both agreed that part of our vacation would be to not visit these boards if at all possible. I hope that you have a good summer and a healthy and happy life. Take care.

    Constitution Lover.

  • Posted By: bojack27 @ 05/12/2009 5:39:39 PM

    And comparing them to women "who throw their children in the trash" is just a smart ass answer, especially since those women don't die. I'm trying to talk about serious policy concerns; how will you address this?

    So are you saying that all women who have done this procedure have died? Don???t make me post statistics saying otherwise. The whole point is to prevent the killing of the unborn and if a person has set in their heart to kill their unborn then no policy will stop them. Just as no policy will stop anyone from killing those who are living. But there are policies that are in place to prevent them from doing it again if we enforce the laws. How do you address those who kill the living? Do you see if they are strap with not enough time, energy or money!

  • Posted By: bojack27 @ 05/12/2009 5:38:00 PM

    You will have doctors afraid that they overlooked that one last option. They will have to jump through hoops to verify to pro-lifers like you and to the state that "all avenues were exhausted". They might even have serious legal difficulties for doing the right thing and not crossing a 't' or taking one more option. Come on, give me a real answer.

    Technology is always coming out and we only can hold the doctor responsible for what he/she knows and not what they do not know. This is the law and reasonable people will see that they are not God and can know everything. This is a real answer! You need to only look at society and realize that there is nothing guaranteed and I???m not saying that the doctor should give a guarantee to anyone that is why I said that they should inform the mother of the risk involved unlike they do now for abortions. All doctors are required to inform their patients of risks involved with operating procedures. So quit making it seem like I???m asking anything more for the doctors who are called upon to terminate the life of the unborn to save the life of the mother. You forget one thing, and that is that if a mother is going into the hospital and doesn???t want this procedure or doesn???t even agree with the doctor that all things have been done to save the life of the child. Then she is free to get as many opinions as possible.

    As for the back alley abortions, if you ban abortion women will die in these back alleys! How will you prevent this?
    If I ban! Or if abortion is banned? Well either way women who die in these back alleys aren???t dying from the ban but they are choosing to put their lives at risk performing an illegal act of killing their child and are dying from this decision that they are making. Prevention of this is the sole responsibility of the woman not to take the risk and no matter what policy is there if a woman is set on doing it she will do it regardless.

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