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Did Obama's trip to Turkey help Muslims here at home? It depends on how you view my headscarf.

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  • Posted By: ChristopherL @ 07/21/2009 2:50:57 AM

    This article is just another Islamic con. American Muslims are causing all sorts of problems here. Just like Muslims do everywhere else.


    NY Muslims Line up in Support of pro-Jizya Islamic Preacher~Video

    http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2009/07/ny-muslims-line-up-in-support-of-pro.html

    Michigan:Muslim Mob Surrounds and Attacks Christians~Video
    http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2009/07/michiganmuslim-mob-surrounds-and.html

    This is all besides the fact that Obama's CAIRO speech was full of lies.
    The Lies in Obama's Speech Exposed!
    http://islaminaction08.blogspot.com/2009/06/lies-in-obamas-speech-exposed.html
    Islam is the anti-thesis of America, it is time to end all Muslim immigration.

  • Posted By: ldnomad @ 05/23/2009 2:57:28 PM

    I am sick and tired of defending what I believe and know! OK so I am Muslim, have lived in Muslim countries for 28 years, I was brought up in a very religious family, and have learned classical Islamic teachings, I know Arabic-very very well- I am also American, so fist the word Assassin comes form the Ismaili sect , who are considered by Muslims to be non-Muslim, they are famous for killing Muslims and using drugs- the name Hashashin, is the origin of the word assassin and it means the one who snorts drugs!!!.
    The reason for me being sick and tired is that no matter what I say people still dont read or research and they don't believe me when I say any of the true meaning of Islam and what I know are the teaching of my religion. So I am on a mission to let people know and learn by my example one person at a time, when I am treating a patient, talking to my friends and neighbours, and teaching young Muslims. So I hope in 100 years people will know the truth, until then I wait:-)

    • Posted By: carlos4179 @ 06/08/2009 11:05:38 PM

      Yes. Let people know you are Muslim when you interact with them. That is the biggest thing you can do to make it so we stop seeing eachother as strangers, or worse, as enemies. Once they know you, they will be able to see that you are not trying to impose your religion or your religious laws on us. They will no longer feel threatened.

    • Posted By: LookingOn @ 06/01/2009 2:50:44 AM

      The greatest problem with Islam is Ignorance of its followers and a blind belief that the "quran" holds all the wisdom.
      The fact is that the quran was written by men, the companions of Mohammed, over a timeframe of about 150 years.
      The imams in the wisdom of ignorance claim to know and exercise the arrogance of dictating the values of life while the follower never questions.

      Suggest we return back to the History of Algeria and its civil war created by the fundamental believers of Islam. Islamic Fundamentalism rose during the 1920s -30s and has evolved into what we see today. It is based upon utter ignorance of its followers, the darkest mental state the human mind can imagine.
      People who believe in religion and religious values lack the ability of rational thinking. This is not just for Islam but goes for all religions. And while Idnomad is claiming to be "peaceful" his core is very much jihad to preach Islam. Religions are lies forced upon you with fear. All you are is a bundle of fear for an afterlife your imam cannot prove exists. What does that say about you?

  • Posted By: Rockmelon @ 05/16/2009 6:21:17 PM

    If you are "peaceful" Muslim, then you are no more of a Muslim than my dog.

    There is one Islam. One Allah. One Qur'an.
    The Qur'an is the 'direct word of god"
    God is a perfect god and Muhammad is a perfect man.
    There are no errors in the Qur???an.
    Islam is a complete ideology incorporating religion, law and culture.

    So, madam, are you a Muslim?

    If you still answer in the affirmative, then you should go back and read the Qur???an because you have missed the ???meat??? of Islam.

    What does god say about non-believers? ???Convert them to Islam, if they resist, smite them at the neck, kill the Jew????????? Sound familiar? It should because this is what the Qur???an instructs its followers to do. This is GOD telling YOU how he wants you to conduct your life as a Muslim. If you deny that these words are in the Qur???an, then you are denying that god spoke to Muhammad and you calling Muhammad a liar.

    Islam is saturated in violence! Muhammad???s profession was that of a murderer and thief! Your ???perfect??? man married a child, lied to his followers and cheated the world of real peace, true love and the ability to appreciate what is on earth!

    I don???t care if you were born in New Jersey or Turkey; if you want to call yourself a Muslim, go to the Middle East and learn for yourself what Islam really is! You most likely wouldn???t last 24 hours as a genuine Muslim.

    Muhammad was nothing more than a snake oil salesman employing smoke and mirrors in his act. And you should be ashamed to call yourself a Muslim. You are more a woman who needs some professional help with an identity crisis.

    • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 1:22:41 PM

      You are no scholar. Earth to you. So stop acting like one.

      You clearly no nothing about Muhammad (pbuh), or Islam for that matter.

      For you to act like you know Islam better than Muslims themselves in truly ridiculous. Why, if Islam was so 'terrible', would there be a whopping 1.5 billion Muslims in the world?? Why would so many be converting? And don't give be the b.s. that Muslims are killed for leaving Islam, because look at Mosaic law (identical punishment). Additionally, what about the converts?

      Wow, insecurity with your own religion has some serious, ugly manifestations, as seen in your comment.

      • Posted By: LookingOn @ 06/03/2009 11:37:17 PM

        1.5 billion people suffering from mental retardation and inferiour brain capacity. The result is seen upon the Earth: all that is left behind is dust and sand.

  • Posted By: LookingOn @ 06/03/2009 11:31:15 PM

    There is no such thing as a peaceful muslim for a muslim is always on the path of jihad: conversion is an obsession. Being a muslim means to have relinquished your own mind to become a slave of a godly ideology nobody can prove. It is the perfect ideology to produce global slavery hence the reason why the UN has been imposing this particular godly belief for the past 30 years. Never in the history of Islam was the woman as abused as we see today. With headscarf the males wage their mohammedan wars. Where Judaism and Christianity failed to produce the perfect slave, Islam succeeds and the stupid muslimahs haven't figured that out. The muslim males are too cowardice to wage conventional warfare, the use of women, children and a god that hides behind an asteroid in Meccah are their weapons.

    History shows that Islam destroys. Look at all the countries it conquered. Besides Persia that held on to its language, all countries speak Arabic when Islam passes by, its native lifestyles totally destroyed for the horror lifestyle of Mohammed. Waging a war with a headscarf is one hell of mindset.

  • Posted By: Mike the Lawyer @ 05/13/2009 12:11:12 PM

    There is no such thing as "an innocent Moslem". If you follow Islam and its instructions to kill Jew and Christians and behead anyone who is not a Moslem, or if you believe that is the way to treat others who refuse to follow a false god and false prophet, then you cannot be "innocent" in any sense of the word. Moreover, the blasphemous Koran teaches that it is permissible for a Moslem to deny Islam if the denial will cause a Jew, Christian or other "infidel" to trust the Moslem until the Moslem can kill them. So, please, let's stop feeling sorry for the "poor Muslims" who are so misunderstood. We understand murder, rape, lying, cheating and the dehumanization of others all too well in this country and the vast majority of us will not allow this camel into the tent.

    • Posted By: szh07 @ 05/13/2009 9:08:38 PM

      Seeing as you call yourself 'Mike the Lawyer', I am sure you have a thorough understanding of formal logic. By your logic, it seems that most Muslims with the intentions of harming non-Muslims would pretend to be non-Muslim as well, in order to cause the greatest amount of harm. A simple case of, if X, then Y. If she hides her faith, she intends to cause harm. The young woman portrayed in this article embraces her faith very openly, clearly she comes without intentions of deception or harm.

      • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/15/2009 8:24:33 AM


        I don't think logic applies much to a religion with as many contradictions as Islam. I suspect she is pretty much forced to wear her headscarf whether she "embraces" it or not.

        Here's some additional info about women and Islam I found recently in an article about the Muslim Student's Associations (MSA) that exist on most every college campus in America.

        ...the politics of segregation practiced by the MSA have included blanket marginalization of its own female members. Shabana Mir, writing for the American Muslim, summarizes the plight of Muslim women on campus:

        It is particularly important to know what is happening with Muslim women pursuing higher education. A survey of sisters' participation in MSAs conducted in 1994 shows that women's activism in MSAs is at an abysmally low level due in large part to "brother domination." A related problem is "there is a common attitude that strict segregation should exist between the genders and that sisters should not appear in public!" On an MSA mailing list, a popular article gives a long list of conditions that women must fulfill to gain access to the mosque. These include obtaining permission from her male guardian, wearing hijab [veil], not wearing "fancy clothes" or perfume, not mixing with men, leaving immediately after the prayer, and so on!...

        www.actforamerica.org

        • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 1:26:00 PM

          Umm... my sister was president of the MSA AND it was filled with Saudi members (whom you and your neo-con buddies probably dub as the most 'extreme' Muslims).

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/08/2009 1:42:04 PM

    In other news: michael savage is barred from the uk for his hate filled agenda! Isn't karma awesome

    • Posted By: Bompins @ 05/16/2009 4:10:57 PM

      Michael Savage was barred from the U.S. for two reasons; 1) he is an honest American who calls a spade a spade and isn't afraid to label Islam as barbaric and backwards, and 2) the UK Home Secretary Jacqui Smith is a liberal, Islam-capitulating weasel who likes to watch porno with her husband.

      • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 1:24:14 PM

        oh I see your 'logic,' you are just a neo-con!! Guess I don't need to worry about you, you are too far gone already!!

  • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/17/2009 10:11:22 AM

    Doc2009.....here are some of the violent passages you asked us to show you. Which ones do you not agree with? Also, let me ask you for the third time...which Muslim country can I (a Christian) go to without fearing for my life)?

    9.5 Slay the idolaters wherever you find them...lie in ambush everywhere for them.
    47.4 When you meet the unbelievers in battle strike off their heads.
    98.6 The unbelievers among the People of the Book, Christian and Jews, and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of creatures.
    5.60 God has cursed the Jews, transforming them into apes and swine. and those who serve the devil.
    5.33 Those who make war against Allah and his Apostle shall be put to death or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides.
    9:5 Kill those who join other gods with God (the Trinity) wherever you may find them .
    8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the Infidels , strike off the heads then, and strike off from them every fingertip.
    .9:111 Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for his cause, kill and be killed.

    • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 1:19:52 PM

      Stop quoting out of context. I could easily do the same with the Bible.

      And, earth to you, you are not a scholar on Islam. For, your gross ignorance so evident in your posts only makes your true intentions manifest.

  • Posted By: ionnoyer @ 05/22/2009 3:50:36 AM

    Well to start with if one has to talk about Hijab....I feel Muslim men are so sure about thier vile intention towards women that to be on safer side they keep their women covered. Its not difficult to see that woman of other religions enjoy more freedom and their men are not so hung up on seeing them as sexual object or private property and let them wear what they want. In Argumentative Indians Amartya Sen in context of French ban on head scarf said that it should not be taken as religious issue but as human right issue because by forcing women to wear head scarf and hijab Islam denies them choice.

    But reading and seeing women like you I feel they derive some sense of achievement (though Marquis de Sade will differ) by voluntarily doing it even in a country like USA. One would rather stay in Afghanistan or Pakistan where one can cover oneself fully and even feel better forget about taunts of the very westerners. It???s basically the western life style which is so enticing that one wants to stay here and by doing a little like covering head (while wearing all Victoria Secrets article inside) one feels that she has done her part of observing religion.

    • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 1:17:26 PM

      Wow, Muslim men are required to grow their beard, which, in my opinion, is worse. For, I can take off my hijab when there are no men around but a Muslim man can never just take off his beard when no women are around. Muslim men, like Muslim women, must dress modestly (no loose, tight, or see-through clothing), and lower their gaze (just like women).

      For you to associate modesty with oppression is absurd, and disrespectful to your fellow women who CHOOSE to cover themselves out of obedience to GOD and out of respect for HERSELF (I want to be judged on WHO I AM, NOT ON HOW MY BODY MAKES A MAN FEEL).

  • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/24/2009 8:37:10 PM

    If all Muslims were peaceful like you, then everything would be OK but they are not. The peaceful Muslims have no say or control over anything and will not speak out against the radical or violent Muslims (who are basically in charge) and the problem is only getting worse, so the rest of us are going to defend ourselves and not just bury our heads in the sand. The world is discovering that Muslims use deception and show two faces to the world. They show a "peaceful" face to the west and a violent face to the middle east. They use "hudna" and "taqiyya" in their dealings with non-Muslims, and are basically taught to deceive their enemies or not to honor any agreement they enter into with their enemies (hudna). Look at C.A.I.R. and other groups that pretend to be one thing but are really just front groups for Hamas terrorists. You may be sincere when you
    say you are peaceful but when we see all the nut case angry/violent/radical Muslims in the news every day, you'll understand why we don't believe or trust you! If you are "sick and tired" of defending Muslims then try cleaning up your own house. Don't blame the rest of us because nobody trusts Muslims!
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    The doctrine of taqiyya...simply connotes "Muslim deception vis-à-vis infidels." According to the authoritative Arabic text Al-Taqiyya if Al-Islam, "Taqiyya [deception] is of fundamental importance in Islam....

    The primary Koranic verse sanctioning deception vis-à-vis non-Muslims states: "Let believers [Muslims] not take for friends and allies infidels [non-Muslims] instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah ??? unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions (taqiyya)...

    ...Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers ??? except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them."

    ...he quotes Muhammad's close companion, Abu Darda, who said, "Let us smile to the face of some people [non-Muslims] while our hearts curse them"; another companion, al-Hassan, said, "Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the Day of Judgment [I.e., in perpetuity]."

    The bottom line is, any Muslim who closely observes Sharia law ??? and that is, incidentally, the definition of a Muslim, "one who submits to (the laws of) Allah" ??? laws that, among other bellicosities, clearly and unambiguously split the world into two perpetually warring halves ??? such a Muslim will always have a "divinely sanctioned" right to deceive, until "all chaos ceases, and all religion belongs to Allah" (Koran 8:39). All Muslim overtures for peace, dialogue, or even temporary truces must be seen in this light.
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    www.actforamerica.org

    • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 1:11:46 PM

      Hmmm... using your logic, I should fear all Christians, esp. the evangelicals and the neo-conservatives, since they ARE proudly assuming responsibility for George Tiller's death, and worse, they believe they are justified. This Christian radicalism should scare me, as a Muslim. For, this gross ignorance is only fueling hatred, and I have unfortunately seen that Christians, too, resort to violence in order to carry out their own desires. Religious terrorism, anybody?

    • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 1:09:06 PM

      Hmmm... using your logic, I should fear all Christians, especially evangelicals and conservatives, since they ARE

    • Posted By: universe @ 05/25/2009 3:17:10 AM

      I think you have quote something from quran that is missing a word. In quran said that a muslim shouldn't take a non muslim as their very very close friends or allies to fight another muslims. Al-quran teach us not to make war to people if they don't make war with us. I think you should see how muslims and non muslims can live together in peace in countries like indonesia or malaysia in south east asia. Muslims who live there allows a non muslims to perform their religion without any disruption from a muslim because it is said in quran (109:6): for me is what i believe and for you is what you believe.

  • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 1:05:03 PM

    To see all of these non-Muslims acting like they are 'scholars' on Islam is truly despicable. For, to be a scholar on ANYTHING requires a life-time of study and devotion to a particular topic. To act, as a non-Muslim, like you know Islam better than a practicing Muslim is truly riduculous.

    Stop quoting the Quran out of context. I can easily do the same with the Bible -- believe me. Every time I open that book I see issues of concern, i.e. female deflagration done by her own father before her marriage, women being the source of all evil since she caused man to sin (and therefore she is under the foot of man, in submission to her husband -- read the first 3 pages of Genesis), stoning a girl if she is not a virgin in front of her father's house (where is the punishment for the man?!), and punishing women if they are raped. I could go on and on, unfortunately.

    Back to the topic. The only time Muslims are allowed to fight is in self-defense -- and even then we must give 4 MONTHS NOTICE BEFORE, i.e., redress the unjustice, or we will attack in defense.

    What non-Muslims fail to realize is that many actions committed by some Muslims today (a very small portion of the world's whopping 1.5 billion Muslims) are not fueled by religion, although they may be conveniently masked as so. Rather, these actions are committed in desperation in an attempt to redress political grievances (i.e., Israeli appartheid, corrupt Arab -- not Muslim!!! -- leaders, unjust American practices -- illegally invading Muslim lands for material gain like petroleum, American torture -- if it were Muslims torturing, this would be used as cannon fodder!, ETC. ETC. ETC.).

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/05/2009 3:00:49 PM

    Who is the author of this alleged source you have cut and pasted to further your hate ???? Please don't be a hypocrite. We can pick up the bible and cite many a source advocating for the death and destruction of innocent people who are so called pagans. You are unpatriotic calling for violence against innocent musliims?!!!! Shame on you!!! Your malicious intentions will never come to fruition inshallah and second of all Islam advocates respect for all individuals even animals . So get over it. Have you ever traveled to a Muslim country? Do u know any Muslims? The answer is no!

    • Posted By: Bompins @ 05/16/2009 4:25:51 PM

      Doc2009 - you are deceived. Show me a Christian church anywhere in the world where they encourage people to kill in the name of Christianity. But in mosques all over the world one can hear seething, hate-filled imams calling for the slaughter of Jews and Christians. We can go back and forth about history - i.e. you can say "what about the Crusades" and I can say "the Crusades were 'responses' to 400 years of Islamic aggression and conquests of Christian land", and we aren't getting anywhere because you and I weren't alive back then.
      But we can see how Muslims bomb, behead and brutally murder in the name of Allah TODAY all over the world, and you know it. You can say that they don't represent Islam, but I can say they do because your Koran incites them to violence and the Hadiths talk about using violence to attain the desired end.
      Not all Muslims are terrorists or jihadists, but 95% or more of terrorists are Muslim, so your 'religion' has a bit of a public relations problem on its hands, and until YOU people eradicate these savages from your ranks, the world, particularly the U.S., which was attacked on 9/11/01 by MUSLIMS, will never warm up to Islam. I, for one, will NEVER forget 9/11. I won't hold a grudge against every Muslim with whom I come in contact, but I will remember the ideology that caused those 19 men to do what they did to our country.
      Americans must never forget!

      • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 12:54:20 PM

        Ummm.... what about the abortion clinics??? Christian terrorists who kill doctors who provide abortions to innocent 10 year old girls who were victims of incest or rape???

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/05/2009 5:43:42 PM

      Book 008, Number 3471:
      Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Had it not been for Eve, woman would have never acted unfaithfully towards her husband.

      How much respect do you think the muslim males learn towards the females when they are fed with the garbage found in the quran and the hadiths? Check your Religious texts, it is obvious they either didn't tell you everything and just conditioned you run around with a headscarf like a dumb slave of a god they cannot prove.

      • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/05/2009 5:53:24 PM

        Book 008, Number 3465:
        'Abdullah b. Amr reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The whole world is a provision, and the best object of benefit of the world is the pious woman.



        Chapter 38: ADVICE IN REGARD TO WOMEN


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        Book 008, Number 3466:
        AbuHuraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Woman is like a rib. When you attempt to straighten it, you would break it. And if you leave her alone you would benefit by her, and crookedness will remain in her. A hadith like this is reported by another chain of narrators


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        Book 008, Number 3467:
        Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported: Woman has been created from a rib and will in no way be straightened for you; so if you wish to benefit by her, benefit by her while crookedness remains in her. And if you attempt to straighten her, you will break her, and breaking her is divorcing her.


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        Book 008, Number 3468:
        Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who believes in Allah and the Hereafter, if he witnesses any matter he should talk in good terms about it or keep quiet. Act kindly towards woman, for woman is created from a rib, and the most crooked part of the rib is its top. If you attempt to straighten it, you will break it, and if you leave it, its crookedness will remain there. So act kindly towards women.


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        Book 008, Number 3469:
        Ab Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A believing man should not hate a believing woman; if he dislikes one of her characteristics, he will be pleased with another.

        • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 12:52:35 PM

          Wow, check out Christianity!!!! What you blame Islam of, in reality Christianity is guilty of exactly what you are saying.

          The perfect illustration of this concept is the story of Adam (pbuh) and Eve (peace be with her); Islam does not consider women to be an ???instrument of the devil.??? A woman is a ???muhsana,??? a fortress against Satan, as a good woman helps keep her husband on the path of morality in his life with the concept of marriage. Hence, Islam does NOT place the blame on Eve alone for the downfall of man. Rather, the Quran blames BOTH equally.

          7:20-25
          ???Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them, in order to reveal to them their shame that was hidden from them (before): he said "Your Lord only forbade you this tree lest ye should become angels or such beings as live forever." And he swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the Garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: "Did I not forbid you that tree and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you???? They said: ???our Lord! we have wronged our own souls: if Thou forgive us not and bestow not upon us Thy Mercy we shall certainly be lost.??? (Allah) said: ???Get ye down, with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood??? for a time.??? He said: ???therein shall ye live and therein shall ye die; but from it shall ye be taken out (at last).??????

          2:36
          ???Then did Satan make them slip from the (Garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. We said: ???Get ye down, all (ye people), with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling place and your means of livelihood ??? for a time.??????

          20:120-121
          "But Satan whispered evil to him: he said, ???O Adam! Shall I lead thee to the Tree of Eternity and to a kingdom that never decays? In the result, they both ate of the tree, and so their nakedness appeared to them: they began to sew together, for their covering, leaves from the Garden: thus did Adam disobey his Lord, and allow himself to be seduced."

          ...Note how the Surah said that they BOTH ate from the tree, and that "thus did Adam disobey his Lord, and allow himself to be seduced".

          • Posted By: Maryam_Proud_Muslimah @ 06/03/2009 12:53:06 PM

            Now, compare this to the Bible???s version (King James Version):

            Genesis, 3:6
            ???And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.???

            Genesis, 3:12-13
            ???And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.???

            Genesis, 3:16-
            ???Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception, in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. And unto Adam he said, Because thou has hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thougshalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.???


            And, every day Jewish men thank God that they were not made women. Wow, ignorance really kills!

  • Posted By: distantsmoke @ 04/29/2009 9:16:30 PM

    I'm going to say something, and I can hear the jihadists sharpening their swords aleady.

    I don't care how you dress. Really and truly. If you want to cover up from head to toe, more power to you. But if by doing so you endanger your fellow ciizens, then the situation needs to be looked at by competent authority and a decision needs to be made on whether or not a law is needed.

    I also don't care what religion you practice. Really and truly. But I have no way of telling the difference between the millions of Muslims who want to kill me simply because I am not Muslim, and those who don't. And the really bad part of this, is there don't seem to be any Muslims who have a problem with the ones who want to kill me simply because I am not Muslim. So, when you come up with a way to differentiate yourself from the millions of Muslims who want to kill me simply because I am not Muslim, then I'll stop being worried whenever I see you on the street, or at the Mall, or in an office building.

    And here comes the part that everybody is going to hate me for. I am truly sick and tired of having Islam shoved down my throat with violence as a chaser. I'm so tired of hearing about peaceful Islam while Muslims are murdering non-Muslims and Muslims all over the world. (How can a peaceful religion justify fatwas that say it's OK to use nuclear bombs on people who are not Muslim and refuse to convert?) I'm heartily sick and tired of the constant Muslim whining about "insults" to Islam. Is Islam so weak? I mean, really. From Muslim reaction, I would have to say that Islam is so weak that it is unable to withstand any kind of srcutiny at all, since anything less than bowing on our knees and voluntarily offering up jizya to any passing Muslim results in Muslim outrage.

    Islam is teaching me to really really dislike Muslims.

    • Posted By: gurumaster8899 @ 04/30/2009 12:30:32 AM

      I think what you mean is that Muslims are teaching you to really dislike islam...
      Islam, like almost all other religions out there has its core beleofs of peace and respecting others and so forth...the problem is that muslims have constantly failed to represent islam properly....
      Moreover, regarding the milllions of muslims that want to kill you for being a non muslim, this is a multidimensional issue, because in no sense whatsoever will a religion ever preach violence, especially islam....
      The issue here is the exponentially ever increasing illiteracy, poverty and general mess within the countries where islam is most popular, these countries have been politically corrupt and are still seriously experiencing post WWII trauma....this resulted in increased propaganda against islam which was eventually fueld by the ignorance and desperation of the people...
      My point is Muslims have a lot of work to do before they realise the core islamic beleifs of general wellbeing and doing...
      So i repeat it again: Its Muslims who are teaching you to really dislike islam.....not the other way around...

      • Posted By: rpearlston @ 04/30/2009 4:47:31 PM

        I just want to an an historical note to your reply. Many of the countries to which you refer became countries subsequent to WWI. They had been one empire, the Ottoman Empire, and that empire had been falling apart well before WWI. The empire sided with Germany, Bulgaria and the Autro-Hungarian Empire, and the Allies made plans to break apart what was left of all of them. The dissolution of the Ottoman Empire was completed in the early 1920's.

        However, your reference to WWII isn't entirely out of place. Many of the countries to which you refer again sided with Germany, They also acepted the Nazi myths about race, and that still colors the politics of the area.

        • Posted By: ldnomad @ 05/23/2009 2:57:13 PM

          I am sick and tired of defending what I believe and know! OK so I am Muslim, have lived in Muslim countries for 28 years, I was brought up in a very religious family, and have learned classical Islamic teachings, I know Arabic-very very well- I am also American, so fist the word Assassin comes form the Ismaili sect , who are considered by Muslims to be non-Muslim, they are famous for killing Muslims and using drugs- the name Hashashin, is the origin of the word assassin and it means the one who snorts drugs!!!.
          The reason for me being sick and tired is that no matter what I say people still dont read or research and they don't believe me when I say any of the true meaning of Islam and what I know are the teaching of my religion. So I am on a mission to let people know and learn by my example one person at a time, when I am treating a patient, talking to my friends and neighbours, and teaching young Muslims. So I hope in 100 years people will know the truth, until then I wait:-)

        • Posted By: rogerally @ 04/30/2009 8:23:35 PM

          You appear to be unfamiliar with historical Islam. Mohammed himself personally ordered executions. The word Assassin, after all is an Arabic word. That doesn???t make all Muslims violent and hateful. But classical Islam is inextricably so.

          • Posted By: muzikjunk_ee @ 04/30/2009 10:44:27 PM

            Maybe this is true, maybe it's not I don???t know because I???m not an Islam buff but from the sounds of it u aren't either... speaking of violence what religion are you part of, because I can guarantee you that Islam isn't the first or only religion to have a history of violence or be muddied by people and their crooked ways, look at Christianity. I???m Christian, but I gotta tell ya no religion is perfect, look at the Catholic Church centuries and centuries ago when people thought they could pay instead of repent and anyone who spoke a word against the doings of the church was a heretic, and usually punished. There were good people who just wanted to carry out their faith to God, but just like with anything else there were still some bad people involved. Take almost any religion and you will find that its basis is usually good but sometimes tarnished after to many people change and ruin things. The point is almost every religion out there has fought violent wars to preserve itself, to practice freely, or sadly enough to claim material things such as land, using the church as their right to do so, however when people see me walking down the street here in America they don???t think ???oh no that person is Christian they are going to attack me???. So just because a person where???s a hijab doesn???t mean they want to continue on the violence that is associated with their religion. Infact, funny little thing a hijab is worn to show a girl's modesty, because it covers their breasts and part of their face that is the most significant reason they are a part of that religion. I know this because a close friend of mine is Muslim, born and raised here in America, she had the choice to not wear a hijab, as did her sister she chose not to wear a scarf, but her sister chose to wear one.

            • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/03/2009 1:27:49 PM

              Yes, the key word is....centuries and centuries ago. Most religions have moved on but the violent Muslims have not changed at all...only their weapons have changed.

              www.actforamerica.org

          • Posted By: muzikjunk_ee @ 04/30/2009 10:46:45 PM

        • Posted By: rogerally @ 04/30/2009 8:17:35 PM

          You appear to be unfamiliar with historical Islam. Mohammed himself personally ordered executions. The word Assassin, after all is an Arabic word. That doesn???t make all Muslims violent and hateful. But classical Islam is inextricably so.

      • Posted By: Laila Alee @ 05/02/2009 3:24:52 AM

        Are you serious? As I was reading your ignorant comment, I couldn't help but think of all the non-muslim terriorists in the world's history. FYI- Hitler, who killed millions of innocent people, was NOT a Muslim. But, yet you do not feel threatned by any white males. Also, Timothy McVeigh who was a White American terriorst, was NOT a muslim. Yet, I do not see you talking about how uncomftorable you are with individuals who look like him "white males". My point is that anyone and anything can be of danger to you, and that clearly depends on what you want to believe. But, please do not speak out of your true ignorance and give the 1.6 billion (still growing) Muslims arond the world a label and call them "terriorist". It is interesting how you contradict yourself in your comment. You keep on saying "I don't care" but yet you say that Muslim s are danger to you. What are you talking about? Seriously, you need to go and educate yourself about the religion of Islam and its teachings. Lastly, it is people like you who initiate racisim, hate, and fear in this world. If you are really trying to disply yourself as someone who is all for peace and justice, then why don't you start applying it to yourself and your own life. Funny how you said " Islam is teaching me to really really dislike Muslims." Well, I don't know who is teaching you or what you have been taught, but clearly you are misinformed and almost brainwashed that you only want to believe in everything negative and ignore the TRUTH. Here is my advise to you, ask anyone you know who is an open-minded and intelligent enough to read from valid sources and who actually lived or had an encounter with Muslims, and then you can choose to like or dislike , as that is simply your own opinion. Untill then, stop hating on the truth and educate yourself. FYI- speaking of the Muslim women's veil (Hijab) look at any picture of Maryam (Mother of Prophet Jesus) and take a look at what she is wearing? Any gusess? Yes, she wore a HEADSCARF. Let us not be hypocrites now, and start educating ourselves before leading our lives based on assumptions.

        Peace!

        • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/03/2009 1:23:58 PM

          P.S. The grand Mufti (head Muslim of his day) actually worked with Hitler to help him implement the final solution against the Jews.

        • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/03/2009 1:20:26 PM

          Laila, you miss your own point. Hitler and McVeigh were not commanded by their own religions to murder people. Islam is the only religion that commands people to hate, deceive and subjegate non-muslims. If you don't know this then you must be one of the Muslims who doesn't understand your own religion very well.

      • Posted By: rogerally @ 04/30/2009 8:12:27 PM

        You have a right to speak your mind. This is America. I don't quite agree with your tone, however, I agree with your facts. To be truthful, historical Islam is mean spirited.

        • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/02/2009 9:39:01 PM

          There is but one Islam, and it is Historical Islam.
          The picture does not look nice.
          And Yes, Mohammed is probably the greatest conqueror of human history. One can only wonder, what that tells about us, the average Joe with rational brains allowing the irrational to ruin the planet.

    • Posted By: peace4ever @ 05/18/2009 9:25:00 AM

      In my opinion, this article is a strong expression of feelings. As a young American Muslim, I have experianced many rude comments being thrown in my face because of my headscarf. I must say, there are also many thoughtful people who speak to me as though I am a regular American girl. I want to say that true Muslims do not murder non-muslims for no reason. I understand your fear but there are some facts and websites that you could read, which are about Muslims and Islam. There is also the translation of the Quran that you could also read. Truly, I cant blame you for some of your harsh thoughts about Islam, because there are some "Muslims" that show the wrong idea about Islam. As you said, they might want to kill non-muslims for not being Muslim, but that is only a slight percent of untrue Muslims. I hope you come to understand that Islam IS truly about peace, but as all religons have, there are some people that ruin it's ideas. Therefore peoples thoughts change from good to bad because of those people. To learn about Islam you could go to http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml .

    • Posted By: peace4ever @ 05/18/2009 9:22:21 AM

      In my opinion, this article is a strong expression of feelings. As a young American Muslim, I have experianced many rude comments being thrown in my face because of my headscarf. I must say, there are also many thoughtful people who speak to me as though I am a regular American girl. I want to say that true Muslims do not murder non-muslims for no reason. I understand your fear but there are some facts and websites that you could read, which are about Muslims and Islam. There is also the translation of the Quran that you could also read. Truly, I cant blame you for some of your harsh thoughts about Islam, because there are some "Muslims" that show the wrong idea about Islam. As you said, they might want to kill non-muslims for not being Muslim, but that is only a slight percent of untrue Muslims. I hope you come to understand that Islam IS truly about peace, but as all religons have, there are some people that ruin it's ideas. Therefore peoples thoughts change from good to bad because of those people. To learn about Islam you could go to http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml .

  • Posted By: kpita124 @ 05/22/2009 11:56:25 PM

    Wow guys. Seriously? How ignorant are we really? Wearing a hijab is a choice for women. It may seem strange to all of us non muslims, but it's part of their tradition. A few years ago, one of my really good friends decided to wear a hijab, and I completely disagreed with her decision and basically tried to isolate myself from her to avoid being labeled by my high school peers. Looking back, I'm ashamed of myself for ignoring my friend at such a critical moment in her life. I completely disagree with people that claim that they are afraid of Islam because Islam has taught them to be afraid. How pathetic are you? Islam taught you? I want to ask those people what their source of this "Islam" is? The news? The media? The stories about the suicide bombers?

    Yes, it's disturbing that these people commit such crimes and claim that they are defending the honor of Islam. But have you thought of why one might feel so threatened? Economic poverty, bad governments, and terrible policies. It's a shame that American media tries to paint such a negative picture of a peaceful religion. It's also a shame that the word JIHAD is attached to such crimes. Jihad, believe it or not, means a "struggle". Not sacrificing innocent non muslims. The correct term for that is...HIRABAH. (So, note...next time, please use HIRABAH instead of Jihad).

    And for those prejudiced historical buffs out there, HISTORICAL ISLAM punished crimes of hirabah by crucifixtion. So clearly, Islam does not promote violence against other non muslims.

    AND to those SAME PREJUDICED HISTORICAL BUFFS... next time you use facts, make sure you look at the ENTIRE picture. :)

  • Posted By: Nosmanic @ 04/26/2009 8:07:22 PM

    Honestly I don't see Islam as any worse than Christian denominations. Their really the same; Hypocritical.

    • Posted By: scotty p @ 05/18/2009 9:51:46 AM

      Before we begin pointing fingers, we should do more reasearch, given the fact of our time it would make sense that you would say something based from research to make sure that you have facts to back your statements up. In islam we believe that all people are one in the eyes of Allah

      • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/18/2009 9:32:03 PM

        That doesn't wash! One passge says that non-Muslims are "the vilest creatures", so by this sick, twisted logic, Mother Theresa is a "vile creature". Why are you saying that Muslims treat all people as equals. We know that's not true.

        98.6 The unbelievers among the People of the Book, Christian and Jews, and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of creatures.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/04/2009 4:01:24 PM

    Unpatriotic shame on you. You are creating animosity and hatebetween people shame on you !! Again stop judging a religion on the actions of uneducated poor people. That's just plain dumb.

    • Posted By: Bompins @ 05/16/2009 5:18:28 PM

      Doc2009 - don't call Islam a religion. It isn't a religion, but rather a totalitarian system that demands submission to it. Its goal is to dominate the world and get rid of all other religions and forms of free government. You know it, I know it and more and more Americans are going to know it, so don't expect this country to lie down and let you walk on us like the Brits, Dutch and Swedes are doing. We are going to resist and Islam is NOT, I repeat NOT going to gain a foothold in this country without one great fight.
      RESIST, America!

  • Posted By: louella12345 @ 05/10/2009 11:37:13 PM

    Wow, what a great article. I admire all covering muslim women for their strength. It's not always easy, but the effort you put forth, hopefully, will one day be worth it. I hope that as my children grow up, they find the world to be more accepting and understanding of diversity. If they want to wear a scarf, I hope they are able to do so without fear of being attacked or intimidated by people who have yet to learn that this great nation was founded on freedom of religion and that is an ideal that should be treasured and kept safe. I truly believe that peace and love will overcome and I hope my children will be able to experience it. Thank you for talking to all of your neighbors and I hope people see you for who you are: a kind hearted lady who just wants what's best for her family, community, and country.

    • Posted By: Bompins @ 05/16/2009 4:14:43 PM

      Huh? You 'admire all covering muslim women for their strength'?? Come on! Those hijab do-dads don't even weigh a pound!

  • Posted By: louella12345 @ 05/10/2009 11:38:08 PM

    Wow, what a great article. I admire all covering muslim women for their strength, it's not always easy, but the effort you put forth hopefully will one day be worth it. I hope that as my children grow up, they find the world to be more accepting and understanding of diversity. If they want to wear a scarf, I hope they are able to do so without fear of being attacked or intimidated by people who have yet to learn that this great nation was founded on freedom of religion and that is an ideal that should be treasured and kept safe. I truly believe that peace and love will overcome and I hope my children will be able to experience it. Thank you for talking to all of your neighbors and I hope some people see you for who you are: a kind hearted lady who just wants what's best for her family and community and country.

  • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/10/2009 1:14:30 PM

    Islamic Husbands are allowed to slap their wives.

    Women in the audience immediately and loudly protested Al-Razine's statement, and were shocked to learn the remarks came from a judge.

    Arab News reported that Al-Razine made his remark as he was attempting to explain why incidents of domestic violence had increased in Saudi Arabia. He said that women and men shared responsibility, but added that "nobody puts even a fraction of blame" on the men, the newspaper said.

    Al-Razine "also pointed out that women's indecent behavior and use of offensive words against their husbands were some of the reasons for domestic violence in the country," it added.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/05/10/saudi.court.wife.slapping/index.html?iref=topnews

    30years ago, an Saudi Princess wrote a book,incognito,about life as a woman in Saudi Arabia...the great holy ground of Islam.
    The book describes many abusive situations, but one stood out:
    A 13 year old girl from a lesser class was raped by a gang of boys from a higher social class.
    The incident went unnoticed at first, till the girl found out, she was pregnant and ball began rolling.
    The court decided that the girl could give birth to her child and breastfeed for 6 months after she was stoned to death.
    The boys went free.

    The book is called "Princess" by Jean Sasson. Try to read his first publication. It has become a Trilogy afterwards.

    For those damaged brains who promote Islam, you truly are void of the destructive nature you have submit to. It is very irresponsible of the West to let deceitful claims of "women free to wear a headscarf" argument of the Islamic militant women with their charade of hijab etc etc while the TRUE ISLAMIC WOMEN are Suffering and Stuggling for simple basic human rights.

    I have nothing but contempt for women in the West wearing Islamic militant headscarves and dresscodes of which Emine Erdogan is a leader.

    • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/10/2009 2:55:14 PM

      There were two teenage Muslim girls in my area not too long ago that were murdered by their father because they refused to wear headscarves and stop dating non-Muslim boys. In the middle east, these are acceptable "honor killings".

  • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/08/2009 10:19:44 PM


    Doc2009....every other word in your posts are "hate this" or "hate that" (standard Muslim training) and I've noticed you have very little negative to say about the violent Muslims. Do you think we're making this stuff up? You can go to any world news site and read about the taliban and AQ. Go to any of the radicals' web sites and read what they're plotting and planning to do. Go to Youtube and search on "radical imam" and see dozens of Imams spewing their hatred from inside their "holy" mosques. Watch the hate-filled Mickey Mouse type cartoons the Palestinians show their kids, to poison their minds. Read books by former radical Muslims (like Walid Shoebat) and other average Muslims who left Islam because it is so violent and hate-filled. If you think we're making this stuff up then it makes *YOU* look awfully silly and uninformed...like you have your head stuck in the sand. Look at all the help we've tried to provide in Iraq and Afghanistan and what it cost us. Your wonderful Muslim friends asked...no begged us to get rid of Saddam because he was brutalizing his own people and his neighbors too and how do they all repay us...they spit in our face (or try to blow us up) and tell us to leave immediately. You guys are a real class act...or more like...nuttier than a bunch of fruitcakes! There's an old saying that you're known by the company you keep but you'd better not try to get some new friends because you don't have much of a trade-in! You say to go read the quran but you won't acknowledge all the violent passages that people have shown you, that came from there. You keep saying we should go visit a Muslim country but you won't tell us which country we can go to without being harassed or possibly murdered. No offense, but the "peaceful" Muslims are of no consequence because they won't speak out against or do anything to change the violent ones. A peaceful Muslim is like a peaceful German in Nazi times. The peaceful Germans also did not speak out against the bad ones. Bin Laden has said that the USA Muslims are legitimate targets if he decides to attack again, so even you are not immune to radical Islam. What you call hatred on our parts is nothing more than a healthy dose of caution and concern and wondering if and when we're going to be attacked again. Because of the concepts of "hudna" and "taqiyaa", we know that Muslims are taught to deceive people, so as a result, we simply don't believe anything you say and we don't trust you either! You can't have it both ways. Muslims have no credibility and we're not going to stick our heads in the sand and hope nothing happens.

    www.actforamerica.org

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/08/2009 2:37:18 PM

    Male circumcision is done here on almost every newborn why don't you concentrate your little efforts here??

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