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  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/08/2009 2:34:24 PM

    There you go with the lies you never quoted the Quran. You know what ? You are free to think what you want that's fine. your hate is so deeply engraned that's never gonna change...moving on.....

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/08/2009 1:40:31 PM

    There you go again citing Internet sites where clearly anyone can write anything to further their hate.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/08/2009 2:15:52 PM

      I produced texts from your 'holy' writings were Mohammed displays his lifestyle: a Caravan raider, kidnapping some excellent arabic girls, gang rape them while he has 13 wives at home, then sell them on the slave market.
      How sick can you be to call this guy, a 1400 year old dead monster, your holy role-model?

      Wafa Sultan is right. You people are crazy beyond repair.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/08/2009 1:38:11 PM

    Wow you obviously still haven't learned anything. !! When are you going to get it through your head those are unislamic practices. People using religion to justify their actions much like the Nazis the slsveownes the pillsgers who raped this country the inquisitors the crusaders the Sunday school teacher who murdered an 8 year old the new hate groups springing up in this country and the list goes on...


    Having a serious debate with you is futile. No where have I ever justified these practices and resorting to personal attacks usually happens when you know your arguments are garbage . How do you go through life with so much hate ??


    Oh and let's not forget that male circumcision I's widelllllyyyy practiced here. A very tramatic procedure done with no anesthesia. So don't be a hypocrite.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/08/2009 2:13:30 PM

      A very traumatic procedure done without no anesthesia...

      No Kidding Mohammed... you perform it on your boys at the age of 12 -13 and 14years old.
      You expect any islamic kid to 'love ' a woman?
      When you analyse thoroughly what you stand for, it is the lowest of the lowest the human mind has ever produced.
      Behind your imaginary friend allah, you can justify just about anything.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/08/2009 1:22:47 AM

    You are bigoted and racist but I'll go a step further and call you unpatriotic. And what imams are you talking about??? It's really ridiculous how brainwashed you are. I want an honest answer to this question.... What are your sources for world news? Do u know any Muslims ? Have u ever been to a socalled Muslim country? They say there are three truths yours mine and the real truth. Why don't u take your own advice and question what u see on tv ?? There are 20000 Muslim physicians in the us myself included we save lives on a daily basis . You choose to not look at the good but the bad because you want something to hate. I'm happy to say I hate no one! It's awesome to be hate free! You should try it out! And calling hijab a rag isn't gonna make us take it off!! Excuse me while I go adjust my hijab !

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/08/2009 10:54:21 AM

      Doc2009, oh great one of allah, have a look at the women of Egypt, their external genitals have disappeared for allah. 80% of Egyptian women were subjected to female genital mutilation, oh great one with hijab. Muslim women must dress in rags to hide the enormous abuse they are subjected to and it is women like doc2009 who will justify the horror inflicted on their fellow man and women in the name of allah, a god they cannot prove exist.

      Oh great one of allah, doc2009, have a look at the women of Afghanistan how allah loves their existence on earth. Only you, oh great one of allah, is free of hatred.
      Only you,oh great one of allah, is the great patriot of the USA.
      Only you, Doc2009, oh great one of allah, the submissive of the most perverted and corrupted mind and lifestyle on this planet, will justify when school children are burned to dead in Saudi Arabia because a Religious Police refuses to let them out without their great hijab, abaya and other names for the rags they have to wear.
      Only you Doc2009, oh great one of allah are perfect.

      Wafa Sultan is a doctor too...she has a rather realistic description of people like Doc2009.
      Maybe the great one of allah, Doc 2009, can take a look at the life of women in the REAL MUSLIM WORLD...
      http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/6.htm
      Living in denial is one thing, to have a nazi approach to your doctrine is another, oh great one of allah, Doc 2009.

      Your tone is no different from an SS during WWII.
      And, Emine Erdogan is an islamic militant you have joined Ataturk Would NOT approve. Turkey needs a present day Ataturk instead of brain damaged meteriorite worshippers.

  • Posted By: bribright @ 05/08/2009 5:34:32 AM

    Hi, Ms. Mubarak. Your column is one of the very best MY TURN submissions I've read in recent years. Your points are well taken. I've saved it to share with others. Thank you. The best to you and your family. -- NC reader

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/08/2009 4:15:01 AM

    If that's what u think when u see someone in hijab I really feel sorry for you.....to be imprisoned by your own fears and delusions....wow....I'm dumbfounded why anyone I'm their right mind would let these fears consume them

  • Posted By: Short old guy @ 05/07/2009 9:53:48 PM

    Ms. Hadia Mubarak: You call us bigots and prejudiced because we look askance at you? Haven't your Imams declared a "Holy War" against all non-believer infidels? Who has been setting off bombs or flying airplanes into American buildings? Cowboys? Aren't we at war against Muslim extremists? How do we know where you fit into the picture and what your loyalties are? What have all the American Muslims said about the atrocities, such as beheading innocent people or the bombings here in this country. I saw many cheering and praising Allah on television. Are you afraid beheading would happen to you if speak out and then go back to see relatives?

    I will continue to look you over carefully. It is called self-preservation, not bigotry! Only when all Imams demand a stop to the killing of infidels, will I see you as a normal American who happens to wear a hijab as a sign or rule of your religion.

    Throughout the centuries, people have picked prophets, started religions and all too many killed those who disagreed. Thankfully, in the past 300 years, most have stopped killing to further their religion.You would do better to study all religions of the past and present instead of just Islam. You might discover just how misguided most religious nuts are! If they are misguided and peaceful, fine. If they are misguided killers, not fine. Believe what you want, but do it peacefully and don't try to shove it down MY throat! And that goes for ALL religions!

  • Posted By: Short old guy @ 05/07/2009 9:08:05 PM

    Ms. Hadia Mubarak, Americans are AT WAR with radical Muslims. The Imams, (or whatever they call themselves), preach that unbelievers of the Muslim faith are infidels. A Holy War has been declared..They also preach that ALL infidels should be killed by Muslims. When you are seen with that rag on your head, people wonder not only if you want to kill them, but are you going to kill them? That is not bigotry or prejudice! It is self preservation! If you are a peaceful American, why have you and other Muslim Americans not spoken up about the atrocities commited by your fellow Muslims? Perhaps you don't see the beheading of innocents as an atrocity. Perhaps you see it as just the death of more infidels. Or, are you all afraid to speak up because it could happen to you when you visit relatives? A doctorate in Islamic studies surely should give you an overall picture of WHY people look at you carefully. YOUR religion is one of the few in the modern day world which dictates that you kill everyone who doesn't believe in YOUR prophet. All religions "pick" a prophet and then go crazy because everyone in the world doesn't feel the same way. Hopefully, your brain will "kick-in" some day and you will use it to think for yourself! The chance of that happening is slim because you are being indoctrinated (brain-washed) by years of Islamic teaching. Study all religions and see how, in the past, almost all were crazy, fighting and killing over some so-called prophet. Muslims are still in the crazy phase, which most religions have outgrown in the past 300 years. When your teachers quit teaching hatrid and death to infidels, people will just see you as a person who wears a hijab. I hope it happens, but I won't hold my breath.

  • Posted By: wileysnakeskins @ 04/25/2009 6:31:27 PM

    All americans who valure their freedoms, speech, religion, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, MUST read of mohammed's life and actions during the period this alleged religion was started; mien kaumph has just as much right to be called a religious writing as mohammed's life and acts; he hated, maimed, robbed, raped, childmolested and murdered even better and more than hitler did.
    Quotes from the Koran:
    --The unbelievers are your inveterate enemy. (4:101)
    -- Surely the vilest of animals in Allah???s sight are those who disbelieve. (8.55)
    Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.." (otherwise it will not). Vol. 4:196
    Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Vol. 9:57
    Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel). Vol. 9:50
    Muhammad said:
    Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, ???(Sahih Muslim 4294)
    YUSUF QARADAWI, the spiritual leader of the Muslim brotherhood and the most popular and influential Islamic religious authority in the world today, is on the recommended reading list of local mosques. Among other Islamist-supremacist things, he wrote:
    ???Islam came to be followed, not to follow; to be dominant, not subordinate."
    ???Islam came with its complete, comprehensive and eternal sharia (law) for the whole of mankind.???
    ABUL MAUDUDI, the most important and popular Islamic writer of the 20th Century, wrote: ???The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power that gets in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy.???
    The statements about Islam above are from the most highly revered and respected Islamic sources, not from "Islamophobes"!

    • Posted By: Stop the hate @ 04/28/2009 3:37:36 AM

      Nothing of what you mentioned are true. None of it is in the true Quran, you are taking the verses out of it s context. Also, no one has ever heard of that name Abul Maududi. And you are calling this respected sources. This is pure Dishonesty

      • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/06/2009 7:12:09 PM

        Check the BOOK OF MARRIAGE.
        CHAPTER 22
        BOOK 008 Verse 3371.

        What else did they forget to tell you ...stop the hate?

        • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/06/2009 7:25:02 PM

          It is obvious that ignorant people in the West are tricked into a religion of which they know hardly anything but what their friends and imams tell. Stop the hate, have you EVER searched for anything that you believe? Have you ever taken the time out question what they tell you is that true or false?

          Betcha, you have Never questioned one letter of what they have told you. You only have yourself to blame for being naive. Every day, for the past 8 years, the news has carried horror stories from the Islamic countries that have been under the yoke of islam for many centuries. How can you be so lazy not to question what they tell you. There is no allah, there is no heaven and you were taken for a ride. Mohammed was the greatest conqueror of all human history, as today you surrender to his lifestyle without asking ONE question! You expect me to respect such deceit inflicted upon mankind?

    • Posted By: iamahyperbola @ 04/26/2009 9:50:15 AM

      Teh quotes you are getting are not from the Qu'ran. And is this alleged belief so different from Christianity, where those who don't believe in God are doomed to eternity in hell?

      • Posted By: Stop the hate @ 04/27/2009 7:28:23 PM

        NOTHING of what it???s mentioned is in the Quran, some people love to take the verses out of it CONTEXT for the purpose of spreading fear, lies and hate. The people who major in the Quran Studies spends 4-6 years in college to be able to explain the meaning of the Quran, they studying the language structure, the time and the historical event that is associated with each verse. So the right way of reading the Quran is you have to have the ???Tafaser??? Which a Volume of 6-8 books to explain the meaning. And in the top of that there are at least 10 different versions of ??? Tafaser???. As a Muslim, I know this for sure ???Islam forbidding the Killing of any innocent person regardless of his religion, color, ethnic background, etc. ISLAM FORBIDDING THE KILLING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, Period. And believe it or not, Islam even forbidding the killing of plants or animals unless it???s for food or preventing danger.

        • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/06/2009 7:10:09 PM

          Stop the hate...pointing out the obvious of islam for everyone to see in quran and hadith is not hatred. You folks should think what you believe, question what you believe. People study 4-6 years...doing what exactly? Exercise in imaginary friend allah, with pillars and imaginary friends devils, with mohammed flying on donkey after he dies from Jerusalem where he never set foot?
          Give me a break...stop the hate...The world is not doing you a service by being tolerant to your delusions which are creating wars.
          You show evidence that allah exists. If you cannot show allah exists, that means your imams are misleading the people. That means the heaven with 72 virgins does not exist either. Has anyone ever returned to tell you that allah and heaven with 72 virgins exists? So, why do you believe without questioning? Why do you want to world to be as crazy as you are? Why do you think pointing out the fiction of your mind is hatred? You cannot expect rational thinking people having respect for your godly fiction that creates wars and destroys entire societies.

    • Posted By: Keagos @ 04/27/2009 10:55:54 PM

      I bet youi this lady who has written the article has no idea about true Kuran content. She is just trying to be different in a country that has no value for headscarf. My mother only wore headscarf while praying in her privacy. Never had to worry about it outside of those moments. You could not tell her religion from her outfit. You did not need to. Her beliefs were hers and my beliefs are mine. If Christians start to dress like the moslems and orthodox jews the streets would be very unpleasant. Part of the reason I live the USA is that there is no force that makes me believe in something. This lady is trying to sell her belief to others and in fact trying to force to us. What she does not understand is, it is a big turn off in every sense and it is got to stay home and in prayer rooms' privacy.. Don't get Turks involved with this. It is illiegal in Turkey to wear a fez and wear a veil. The new government is trying to get it in to the schools and government offices because they are all getting good money from Iran. May be so does or did she. Ask her under oath if she really loves it..

      • Posted By: purple_state @ 04/28/2009 8:34:51 AM

        The author in no way tried to "sell" or "force" her religion to anyone, she at no point said that Islam was the only way. Way to not only miss the point but to illustrate it!

        • Posted By: KookieMonster10 @ 05/06/2009 5:23:17 PM

          The point of the article is learning how to respect another point of view and accept it as part of American fabric, even if it is talking about Islam. As for advertisements that sell something, that's the whole point of magazines.

      • Posted By: rpearlston @ 04/28/2009 4:07:40 PM

        Your mother is not the writer of this column. Both women, however, made choices of their own accord. You are judging the writer by your mother's standards, meaning that you are pre-judging her. Now, take out that hyphen, and you'll understand that your comments reflect your prejudice. It's an ugly word, but it applies to you, at least in this situation.

        You spoke about the writer trying to force her rieligion on others. Funny, I saw nothing of the sort in her coulmn. I have, however, found plenty of that sort iof behavior in comments on many articles, and all of them coming from people who claim to be "Christian".

        That Turkey once outlawed the wearing of the hijab has nothing whatsoever to do with the US or with any country other than Turkey. And to be precise, that law is no longer on the books in Turkey.

    • Posted By: Stop the hate @ 04/27/2009 7:30:25 PM

      NOTHING of what it???s mentioned is in the Quran, some people love to take the verses out of it CONTEXT for the purpose of spreading fear, lies and hate. The people who major in the Quran Studies spends 4-6 years in college to be able to explain the meaning of the Quran, they studying the language structure, the time and the historical event that is associated with each verse. So the right way of reading the Quran is you have to have the ???Tafaser??? Which a Volume of 6-8 books to explain the meaning. And in the top of that there are at least 10 different versions of ??? Tafaser???. As a Muslim, I know this for sure ???Islam forbidding the Killing of any innocent person regardless of his religion, color, ethnic background, etc. ISLAM FORBIDDING THE KILLING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, Period. And believe it or not, Islam even forbidding the killing of plants or animals unless it???s for food or preventing danger.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/05/2009 12:52:46 AM

    Daytona why are u advocating some stupid hateful website ? Why not go to the Quran itself ? A website is never valid in any debate because anything can be cut and pasted to further a hateful unpatriotic agenda. Nazis were Christian let's not forget that as were the inquisitors and the pillagers who raped this country gave small pox infested blankets to native Americans and burned women at the stake for being heretics. The problem is you people don't read books you don't go to the original source istead u sit in front of a screen with your potbellys hanging out absorbing somebodys propaganda because it furthers your hatefilled agenda. Sad. Really sad.

    I was born and raised here by native American descendants came here thousands of years ago. So no, you go back where you came from buddy.

    I choose to reconcile with my neighbors to come together for peace even though we may be of different beliefs. You and gardener can go start your own colony of hatemongerd but u know what? Peace and justice loving peoples of all beliefs will prevail and you will never suceed. It really is futile to hold any kind of intelligent debate with either of you so I'll leave you with your hate.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/05/2009 1:38:17 PM

      I choose to reconcile with my neighbors to come together for peace even though we may be of different beliefs.

      You do not reconcile... you roll over. Your neighbours have no respect for your lifestyle when you have to roll over to have peace.

      • Posted By: KookieMonster10 @ 05/06/2009 5:29:17 PM

        Doc 2009,

        Please reconcile with the Muslims who corrupt the teachings of the Quoran by advocate hatred and violence under the cloak of religion. There are many ignorant souls and plenty of them who claim to practice Islam, but really practice hate against others who do not look dress or think like them. Also, reconcile with Muslim converts and Muslims who are not Arab speakers or of Arab decent, because racism and chauvinism does exist within Islam as it is a chancre within all the major religions.

      • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/05/2009 1:59:15 PM

        I can only imagine the Native American Chiefs watching their daughters being abused as per religion of the muslims.

        FYI The christians crusades were a responds to the Islamic conquering machine.

        If we, as a global community do not come together and expose the fraudulent mindset of religion and in particular Islam which is the instigator for other extremist groups to surface, it will evolve in a global terror met with global civil war.

        I cannot imagine the Native American Chiefs watching their daughters being reduced to less than property. Coming from a native lifestyle where the woman had/has equal responsiblities to the man. I cannot conceive that any Native Chief would submit to such horror lifestyle and reduce his tribal values to the degradation of an islamic lifestyle. One can look at all the islamic countries to witness how human life is valued and degraded to inhumane cruel societies where males have alienated from the females. After Christainity passed by and destroyed the Native American Lifestyles, I cannot conceive any Native American Tribe wanting to reduce itself some more and roll over to embrace the horror of islam.

  • Posted By: KookieMonster10 @ 05/06/2009 5:19:14 PM

    Agreed. American-born Muslims should not have to choose between religion and nationality. However, there are Muslims who willingly segregate themselves and teach that American values run counter to those of Islam. It is incumbent upon all members within the community Muslims and non-Muslims alike to extend a branch of goodwill and show how tolerance is an American virtue taught by all religions.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/05/2009 1:23:20 AM

    I challenge you to pick up a Quran and get to know a Muslim than maybe I can listen to what you have to say if you're up for the challenge

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/05/2009 1:27:51 PM

      Quote...challlenge you to pick up the quran... end quote

      Chapter 22: AL AZL (INCOMPLETE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE): COITUS INTERRUPTUS
      Book 008, Number 3371:
      Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.

      This is the great quran and Religious Texts Muslims learn.
      After reading this text, anyone still submits to islam, is either a pervert, mentally sick or a brainless simpleton.

      • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/05/2009 1:35:01 PM

        For the mediocre brains who have difficulty understanding the passage: It tells the story of Mohammed and his gang kidnapping some excellent Arabic Girls. The gang decides to rape the girls but are asking Mohammed, the great self-proclaimed prophet for advise. Mohammed's reply is to gang rape the girls using coitus interruptus, or ejaculating outside the vagina as the great self-proclaimed prophet wants to sell the girls on the slave market the next day. Isn't allah great?

        This sort is imposed on our society as a religion of peace.

        • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/05/2009 5:57:03 PM

          Do not forget that Mohammed had 13 wives at home while he was raiding caravans, kidnapping some excellent Arabic Girls.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/05/2009 3:12:52 PM

    Everyone reading this blog: disregard the hate filled message that gardener advocates. All those people who are peace loving Jews Muslim christain Hindu buddist we need to put aside our differences and work towards fighting against injustice . We need to reconcile. Hate is not the answer. As a Muslim I know many Muslims from the most conservative to the most liberal and no one has ever advocated violence against others. The myth perpetuated by those people who need an excuse to hate, that Muslims are violent is a farce used to keep peole in fear so that they can be controlled. This is my last post on here. Asalsmualikum to all (peace be upon you).

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/05/2009 5:44:58 PM

      Doc2009, we will no longer confuse you with the facts. There is no need to display your nasty ignorant mind which you call peace.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/05/2009 1:19:10 AM

    And how do u know so much about Nazism ??! I knew it! Your a nazi ! Unpatriotic and hateful shame on you !

    Hadia Mubarak is an inspiration she is awesome !

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/05/2009 12:57:03 AM

    Ha! You have never been to a Muslim country my suspicions are confirmed you don't know any Muslims so therefore you are in noooooo position to utter anything about Islam . Laughable really .....

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/05/2009 12:55:17 AM

    Gardener don't get all hot and bothered by hijab seriously

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/05/2009 12:53:49 AM

    And I distinctly said cite books not some stupid Internet site

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/04/2009 5:40:09 PM

    You have not cited sources your contentions hold no weight. You are unpatriotic because you are fostering division between people rather than coming together to maintain peace and tranquility to all people regardless of their religion. Unfortunately one cannot have any discourse or debate with someone who fails to cite sources ( books not blogs)

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/04/2009 10:44:32 PM

      They say that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings. Steal a little and they throw you in jail; steal a lot and they make you king. Bob Dylan.

      Steal a lot more and you can dominate the world. Tough luck. This is still a free country
      You can lash your Islamic Nazi Whip as much as you like; The picture above is no better than the picture on this website:

      Women in Nazi Germany were to have a very specific role. Hitler was very clear about this. This role was that they should be good mothers bringing up children at home while their husbands worked. Outside of certain specialist fields, Hitler saw no reason why a woman should work. Education taught girls from the earliest of years that this was the lifestyle they should have.

      "No Nazi woman will ever be motivated to work for money. Serving men is our only wish."
      "Though our weapon be but a wooden spoon(Present day headscarf), it must become as powerful as other weapons"

      Does this sound familiar to your Mohammed indoctrination?
      You really think you can fool the world with a headscarf?

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/04/2009 4:15:26 PM

    You are confusing politics with religion . Islam does not advocate anything but peace. Again you have not cited any sources. Your quotte: obsession to convert. Hahahahs I could care less if you convert or not . Please. Like I said we don't go around knocking on people's doors to convert. Second, do you know any Muslims? Have u ever traveled to a Muslim country? You are hateful and unpatriotic and that is a shame . that is why hate groups are on the rise. Like I said you don't have to like us the less dramatic people in my life the better.racism and acts of violence against any innocent person Muslim or not is Unacceptable !!!

    • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/04/2009 10:28:41 PM

      I guess Doc2009 is a Muslim? Go to www.prophetofdoom.net sometime if you want sources, such as the Quran itself. Here's a sample: Islam is a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories. Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money. He was a terrorist. And if you think these conclusions are shocking, wait until you see the evidence.
      Critics of Prophet of Doom claim it is offensive, hatemongering, and unnecessarily violent. We agree - but we didn't write those parts. They came directly from Islam's scriptures. Over the course of these pages, we quote from most every surah in the Qur'an - putting each verse in the context of Muhammad's life by quoting vociferously from Islam's most trusted sources. Here's another: Women are treated like animals in Islam so we are amazed when we come across a defense of Islam crafted by a woman who is not smothered by the unyielding oppression that prevents most from speaking out. One such beguiled soul actually tried to provide evidence regaling Islam's unique treatment of females. If you are a woman, this correspondence is especially important. Here's another: Muslims seek to discredit those who accurately expose Islam to be a violent and immoral scam. So occasionally, the POD team is compelled to refute the rubbish they have thrown our way. One piece of trash was tossed by Jalal Abualrub. He claims "I have proven Craig wrong in a debate." While the opposite is true, Jalal's boisterous online charge has been sufficient to confuse those who are unaware of the facts. Muslims are taught to deceive but then wonder why nobody trusts them. If you don't have trust, nothing else matters! You asked if we had ever gone to a Muslim country. What Muslim country can a Christian go to without being hassled at the least or worse case...murdered! You're free to walk the streets here. What Muslim country am I free to go to? Oh by the way. why did you come here, if the Muslim countries are so wonderful? Did you come here to get away from an oppressive Muslim country or just to take over our country?

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/04/2009 5:34:00 PM

      Conclusion: Islam is Nazism with a godbelief.

      The planet of the Apes; when Islam passes through it turns into the Planet of the Slaves, leaving behind dust and sand.
      The great religion of peace selling the greatest manual for war. god, the imaginary friend, is great while man is losing its thinking capabilities.
      The posts of he great allah believers show that everybody is a hater who doesn't accept islam, everybody is unpatriotic if you challenge islam. What else will they think of next? and you wonder why the WWII skeletons are waking up, why the godly fanatics of christianity is re-surfacing. You have a rotten apple multiplying. You cannot make an American Apple Pie with rotten apples.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/04/2009 5:11:19 PM

      Your Quote:
      Islam does not advocate anything but peace.
      End Quote

      When Islam chops off your head, your headless body will still claim Islam is peace. Magaret Hassan endured it.

      I am not going to give any specific names or titles, because you folks have a cunning way to do away with solid historic evidence and twist it as you see fit. Hebron was called for 4000 years Hebron, until lately it is now Al Kalib. Like hell it is. It is still Hebron. If you want to update your knowledge, you can take the names and research it.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/04/2009 3:43:50 PM

    I accidently posted a suggestion for a book. Honestly don't read it You won't be able to get past your hate and read with an open mind. Again, you have not cited sources.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/04/2009 4:01:42 PM

      Pointing out the facts of your ignorance is not hatred. Don't confuse them with the facts.
      Throwing around the word hatred every time you face your own ignorance is a poor excuse of a defense. The one who is doing the hating is you as a result of your intolerant ignorance, and your obsession to convert.

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