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  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/04/2009 3:34:20 PM

    Still haven't cited any sources. Read Bruce lawerence The Quran maybe













    You are very unpatriotic shame on you. Our president wants to build bridges with Muslims and the west he acknowledges the contributions Islam made to civilization. I.e. Medicine mathematics the whole concept of innocent until proven guilty the prblrm is your thinking is simplistic u want to judge Islam on the actions of people who are always goi g to make mistakes. Trying to equate Islam with Nazism is plain stupid especially since Muslims were persecuted by the Nazis just like Jews and gypsies were.Muslims have given shelter to Jews all through the ages from the Spanish inquisition to nazi era so don't equate Islam with Nazis that's u defendants of Germans who did that.

    Again don't worry about what women wear.men always want to concern themselves with what women wear whether it's a bikini or a hijab . So in other words go intellectualize yourself read a book not a blog and stop concerning yourself with a woman's dress code.




    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/04/2009 3:55:53 PM

      Your Quote
      Trying to equate Islam with Nazism is plain stupid especially since Muslims were persecuted by the Nazis just like Jews and gypsies were.
      End Quote.

      The relationships between Jews and Muslims were relatively peaceful till the arrival of the Grand Mufti, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini. In 1929, major Arab riots were instigated against the Jews of Palestine when al-Husseini falsely accused Jews of defiling and endangering local mosques.
      Using the turmoil of the Arab Revolt as cover, al-Husseini consolidated his control over the Palestinian Arabs with a campaign of murder against Jews and non-compliant Arabs, the recruitment of armed militias, and the raising of funds from around the Muslim world using anti-Jewish propaganda.

      In 1937 the Grand Mufti expressed his solidarity with Germany, asking the Nazi Third Reich to oppose establishment of a Jewish state, stop Jewish immigration to Palestine, and provide arms to the Arab population.

      In 1940, al-Husseini requested the Axis powers to acknowledge the Arab right:
      ... to settle the question of Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries in accordance with the national and racial interests of the Arabs and along the lines similar to those used to solve the Jewish question in Germany and Italy

      While in Baghdad, Syria al-Husseini aided the pro-Nazi revolt of 1941. He then spent the rest of World War II as Hitler's special guest in Berlin, advocating the extermination of Jews in radio broadcasts back to the Middle East and recruiting Balkan Muslims for infamous SS "mountain divisions" that tried to wipe out Jewish communities throughout the region.
      Accompanied by Eichmann, he visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/03/2009 6:53:45 PM

    Again cite your sources and I want books not blogs. Second, Islam gave rights to women 1400 years before women even had the right to vote (1920's). Women had the right to keep their own property unlike in England where women had to turn over their property and wealth to their husbands. Islam abolished the burial of female infants rampant in ore Islamic arabia. According to Islam it is forbidden to leave all of your wealth to your sons while ignoring your daughters. These are facts that u cannot negate. During the time of the prophets companions a woman stood up during a publib speech given by one of his companions and publicly corrcted a part of his lecture and he also publicly acknowledged his mistake. That's how much autonomy women had. To judge the fastest growing religion on the actions of uneducated poor people is just plain stupid. That's like me judging all Christians based on psychotic people out there like the Sunday school teacher accused of rape and murder of an 8 year old girl.


    Second I could care less what ataturk would think hahhaha that's too funny.....and why are u so obsessed with hijab??? What do u care what women wear?? Don't worry about what we women wear cuz it's none of ur business!

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/04/2009 3:36:14 PM

      Yrquote: Again cite your sources and I want books not blogs. End quote.
      Is there any difference between your dress code, your tone of speech, and one in Nazi uniform and its manner of speech?

      Queen Kahina, Queen of the Berbers, battles and wars against invading Islamic gangs, adopted an orphan, took care of the infant for 20 years, when it betrayed her by aiding the invading Islamic hordes of Hassan in 702. On the eve of the final battle, the Kahina ordered her son to go over to the enemy. Her son had to convert to Islam to seal their defection. For the Kahina, the survival of her family and its supremacy over her tribe were ultimately more important than any questions of nationalism or religion. If the Kahina actually made this amazing decision, she was tragically mistaken. The Arab Muslims were determined to take North Africa regardless of its wealth or poverty, because there were people to be converted to Islam, and because North Africa was a gateway to Spain and Europe.

      Magaret Hassan : Conversion to Islam, Living in Iraq, Married for 30 years, with grown children, Renowned aid worker, kidnapped in Iraq. Her body was never recovered, but her execution by beheading was captured on video and sent to Al Jazeera. The world was horrified.

      Nick Berg???s body was found outside of Baghdad on a highway overpass; a video of Nick Berg's execution, by beheading was on display.

      Graphic images of Paul Johnson, 49, beheading appeared on a website linked to Islamist militants. Shouting "God is great", the insurgents decapitated their captives one after another with a knife. Finally, they rested the severed heads on top of the bodies. This horrific video was no different to approximately 20 beheading videos that had come before it. Those videos included the deaths of foreign contractors such as American Nick Berg, Kenneth Bigley from England and South Korean interpreter Kim Sun-il. (2006)

      At the time of the death of the self-proclaimed prophet Mohammed in 632, his followers ruled only in Arabia.
      Only ten years later the Arab Muslims had achieved one of the most spectacular conquests in history.
      They conquered Syria (635-636), Palestine (638-640), and Egypt (639-642) from the Byzantines and first Iraq (635-637) and then Persia itself (637-642) from the Persians.
      Wherever they went, most of the people soon became Muslims and (except in Persia) Arabic-speakers.
      The Arabic Islamic Conquest changed the Middle East permanently.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/04/2009 3:32:42 PM

      Your Quote:
      To judge the fastest growing religion on the actions of uneducated poor people is just plain stupid. That's like me judging all Christians based on psychotic people out there like the Sunday school teacher accused of rape and murder of an 8 year old girl.
      End Quote.

      Saudi Arabia religious police, stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building, they were not wearing correct Islamic dress. According to Saudi newspapers, 14 schoolgirls died as a consequence; 3 policemen beating young girls to prevent them from leaving the school because they were not wearing the abaya. The Saudi Gazette quoted witnesses as saying that the police, known as the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, had stopped men who tried to help the girls and warned, it is a sinful to approach them.

      Tyranny of the Hypocrite, who justifies their atrocious behaviour behind a god and afterlife they cannot prove.
      Islam is the fastest growing mental illness, void of rational thinking, inflicting bodily harm and mental degradation turning healthy human beings into unrecognizable creatures void of every humane emotion.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/04/2009 3:12:22 PM

      Yr Quote: Second I could care less what ataturk would think hahhaha that's too funny.....and why are u so obsessed with hijab??? What do u care what women wear?? Don't worry about what we women wear cuz it's none of ur business! End Quote.

      Turkey???s Emine Erdogan stands for Militant Islamism, an Islamic tool of battle, successfully used for the past 30 years. It has woken up the dormant skeletons of WWII. This Islamic militant dress code displayed in the West is no different from the Nazi uniform. Nazism is on the rise, Christian fanatics, never seen before are emerging. Islam has contributed nothing but misery to mankind. In 1400 year, nothing has changed, except for the toys of waging war. The delusional grandeur of Mahomet continues to conquer with a god they cannot prove for an afterlife they cannot pay out. This destructive lifestyle is brought to our shores, challenging our Constitution and Laws.

      What makes you think Islam is any better than Nazism or any other fanatic?

      You still think your modesty dress code is about you and your choice of wearing clothes preventing men from dreaming about women? You, Brainless Simpleton.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/03/2009 4:55:23 PM

    And it's so pathetic how you feel the need to make stupid comments about the first ladys appearance. Grow up. You're not in grade school anymore.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/03/2009 5:44:02 PM

      The quran is a manual for war. The sooner you realize islam is a political party with a godbelief taking you, your family and your future offspring for a ride, the sooner you can get with your 2 feet back on Earth, instead of being delusional about imaginary friends in who's name you would chop off the heads of your fellow man.

      Queen Kahina endured betrayal of a son she had raised as her own for 20 years, only to be sold out to the Islamic Hordes that invaded Morocco. The Berbers are still regarded as second class citizens.
      Margareth Hasson had her head chopped off, after she converted to islam, loved and cared for 30 years for muslims.
      Nick Berg was brutally tortured and murdered.
      Paul Johson was volunteering to rebuild a life for muslims, his head was chopped off after he was tortured.
      Islam brings on our shores the most degrading inhumane lifeform. It challenges our Constitution for it wants to impose its inhumane, cruel degrading Sharia.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/03/2009 5:36:28 PM

      The First Lady of Turkey is a sight for a sore eye. Ataturk would not approve. That's how history views your headscarf, whether you like that or not and that is indeed how history views it.

      The people in need to grow up are wearing a headscarf. Their intolerance creates problems in every country on this planet. The hypocrite who is trying to sell peace while waging war in the name of a god they cannot prove. Who is in need of growing up?

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/03/2009 4:53:28 PM

    Garderner: where are you getting your information from cite books not some bogus stupid blog written by ignorant people. Have you traveled outside of the US? Have you ever read a book on Islamic history??? Do u know anything about salahudeen ayubi??? The problem with you is that you like the majority of people don't read legitimate books you have never traveled anywhere you are not open minded you in fact are racist and need an excuse to hate. That is why you are not taken seriously on this site or anywhere else for that matter. I wear the hijab because I want to that's all u need to know. FYI female circumcision is not mentioned ANYWHERE in the Quran these are cultural practices that uneducated poor people do cuz they don't know better, instead of demonizing them why don't you help the
    ???? U won't because u are hate filled. And another thing male circumcision is widely practiced here iF you have ever seen it done it I's very traumatic so don't be a hypocrite.

  • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/03/2009 4:10:06 PM

    Did Obama's trip to Turkey help Muslims here at home? It depends on how you view my headscarf.

    The First Lady of Turkey is a sight for a sore eye. Ataturk would not approve. That's how history views your headscarf.

  • Posted By: NeoPoliticus @ 04/26/2009 9:37:15 PM

    If you wear a scarf when going to worship, that's practicing your religion. If you wear it all the time, you are oppressed.

    • Posted By: Laila Alee @ 05/02/2009 3:52:38 AM

      WOW, ignorance at its finest stage. What are you talking about? You make no sense whatsoever. What do you mean by if she wores it all the time she is oppressed? First, Muslim women choose to wear the headscarf. Second, lets not kid ourselves, we all know who is the oppressed one? At least, Muslim women who choose to wear the scarf do not have to worry about spending so much time and effort to look good in the eyes of men. Please, speaking of oppression, take a look at the domestic violence cases in this country and you let me know who is really being oppressed. Lastly, Islam like Christianity speaks of modesty and for women to show modesty. If you do not believe my facts, than start reading about the religion. Educate yourself. FYI- Islam gave women rights housands of years ago, and history speaks for itself. One last thing, take a look at Maryam, Mother of Prophet Jesus in any of the art portraits and you'll see that she was covered up and YES SHE WORE A SCARF (HIJAB). Great article, Hadiah.

      Peace!

      • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/03/2009 3:45:58 PM

        First, Muslim women choose to wear the headscarf. Second, lets not kid ourselves, we all know who is the oppressed one? At least, Muslim women who choose to wear the scarf do not have to worry about spending so much time and effort to look good in the eyes of men.

        You are part of the Western Islamic militant who has no knowledge of anything that goes on in the Islamic world.
        Your utter rubbish about an Islamic woman is free to wear a headscarf is laughable.

        Do explain why School children in Arabia were burned to death in a school fire, forbidden to leave a burning school withouth their rags on their heads? Women like you are the reason why women are oppressed and abused. Never in the history of Islam has the women be oppressed and abused as we see presently, never did the woman in Islam were total cover daily as is common during a desert/sand storm. You have no frigging knowledge of Islamic History but your are going to rave about the freedom of militant islamism in the West. You have no idea what the women in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Arabia, Somalia suffer . And a loudmouth ignoramus of the West is going to sugar coat the most degrading lifestyle presently on this planet. A fraud, cruelty and abuse, justified in the name of a god they cannot prove, an afterlife insurance they cannot pay out. Why the hell don't you zip it and take a trip in hell hole Islam creates around the world. Maybe Female Circumcision in the name of allah is something you would promote too. Utterly disgusting.

      • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/03/2009 2:00:56 PM

        What "rights" did Islam give women exactly? The right to be locked in your own home and cannot leave? The right to be raped by your husband? The right to NOT go to school? The right to NOT have a job? If you're a Muslim, you don't seem to know much about the subject. Go to this web site and read about the Lebanese lady who had to hide in a bomb shelter and who lost most of her family due to your wonderful, peaceful, loving, tolerant Muslim friends!

        www.actforamerica.org

      • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/02/2009 9:23:46 PM

        Some typical Islamic comment ???Average Jane's response shows that she has no understanding of the Muslim faith. The scarf is Hadia's choice that she wears as an expression of her faith and her belief in modesty.???
        Is that a fact? Let???s see, why don???t you ask Hadia???s grandmother and mother how many scarves they wore when they were young? You people have brains unable to think beyond the past 20 years. The Muslim women 30 ??? 40 years ago was far more advanced and intellectual than what you produce today. Iraq in the 1800s had more women in parliament than men! Take that to Hadia???s Father.
        Hadia Mubarak, and her family have one objective to erase the American Apple Pie off the Menu.
        ??????Hadia's father in law is founder of an area of Islamic Jurisprudence that believes in spreading Sharia in the West called "Muslim Minority Fiqh." Hadia and her family are Islamists not Muslims. They believe in having only one version of Islam influence Muslim societies (ie inevitably persecuting minority muslim groups like the Shia, Alevi, etc.).
        They do not believe in separation of church and state??????
        AND THAT is in DIRECT VIOLATION WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS COUNTRY. Sharia is copied of Code of Hammurabi. Islam: A god it cannot prove, an afterlife insurance it does not pay out. Is the Mubarak Family using deceitful religious stories violating the very essence of the Constitution to impose their own godly tyranny? Freedom of speech is a right under the Constitution. It is a violation under Sharia. Which is to govern our society: the Constitution or their Sharia? It is very evident that we have 2 entities locked in, head on. 400 years ago, People ran away from the very essence the Mubarak Family is about. The religious hypocrites, using blasphemy to silence free speech, so they can impose his own tyranny. When an Insurance Company sells you a car insurance it cannot/ does not, pay out, it is taken to court for fraudulent behaviour. Why does society allow religious charlatans to deceive their fellow men with gods and an afterlife insurance they cannot pay out? Why do we allow these entities Tax Free Status?

    • Posted By: Average Jane @ 04/27/2009 12:49:35 PM

      • Posted By: Kari A @ 04/27/2009 5:13:27 PM

        Average Jane's response shows that she has no understanding of the Muslim faith. The scarf is Hadia's choice that she wears as an expression of her faith and her belief in modesty. Hadia's mother-in-law, Dr. Zainab Alwani, is a well-respected Islamic scholar, a FEMALE Islamic scholar who sits the North American Fiqh Council (an Islamic jurisprudence body for American Muslims)
        Hadia Mubarak, and her family are some of America's finest citizens who are making it easier for all Americans to learn and understand more about Muslims in America. Thank you for the excellent article.

        • Posted By: helenz @ 04/28/2009 2:10:34 PM

          Hadia's father in law is founder of an area of Islamic Jurisprudence that believes in spreading Sharia in the West called "Muslim Minority Fiqh." Hadia and her family are Islamists not Muslims. They believe in having only one version of Islam influence Muslim societies (ie inevitably persecuting minority muslim groups like the Shia, Alevi, etc.).

          They do not believe in separation of church and state

          • Posted By: rpearlston @ 04/28/2009 4:17:35 PM

            Do you believe everything that your family believes? What about your in-laws - do you believe everything that they believe? Are you not capable of independent thought? If you are, then why can't you attribute the same to another person.

            Hadia Mubarak is no more her mother-in-law than are you or anyone else. The least that you can do is give her credit for being an individual and not a part of a grouop-think collective.

            • Posted By: helenz @ 04/29/2009 11:42:43 AM

              you just condradicted yourself. your original reply was meant to raise the credibility of hadia by reference to the academic standing of her mother in law. So, why can't you accept the converse?

              I have been to enough "Islamic" conferences from ISNA to MANA to know that these people think they are superior to other Muslims, non-Arab Muslims and keep on trying to push their version of Islam as the only version. So much for moderation.....

              • Posted By: rpearlston @ 04/29/2009 2:00:45 PM

                And again, you're painting every Muslim with the same brush. Your statements therefore way that you preclude the possibility that any Muslim could think or act independently of others. In actually, you're describing group-think to all Muslims simply because they are Muslims. But first and foremeost, Muslims are human beings, each with their own individual DNA and set of life experiences and sensory experiences, a combination that makes everyone different from everyone else.

                There is one reason and one reason only for you to think otherwise. It called bigotry.

      • Posted By: Kari A @ 04/27/2009 5:14:39 PM

        Average Jane's response shows that she has no understanding of the Muslim faith. The scarf is Hadia's choice that she wears as an expression of her faith and her belief in modesty. Hadia's mother-in-law, Dr. Zainab Alwani, is a well-respected Islamic scholar, a FEMALE Islamic scholar who sits the North American Fiqh Council (an Islamic jurisprudence body for American Muslims)
        Hadia Mubarak, and her family are some of America's finest citizens who are making it easier for all Americans to learn and understand more about Muslims in America. Thank you for the excellent article.

  • Posted By: DSL1 @ 04/27/2009 7:00:01 PM

    Well if some white Americans flew a bunch of planes into Muslim buildings, killing 1000s of innocent Muslims, and then the local Muslims as a reaction were fearful, suspicious, and hateful of local white Americans wandering around freely in their neighborhoods, anyone can completely understand this. But for Americans not to be blind and welcoming of Muslims in our midst is somehow hateful and racist? Buy a clue people.

    • Posted By: partera @ 04/30/2009 1:37:42 AM

      Umm, YES, americans have been flying planes in muslim countries and killing thousands of innocent civilians for many years lately, and that is why many in the muslim world are angry at the american government. For example, nearly a MILLION civilians have been killed in Iraq from direct US military and paramilitary actions there (see iraqbodycount.org). It is a myth that "muslims hate americans because of our freedom," or any such nonsense. If people are angry it is because their relatives are being killed on the way to school or work, or in their own homes.

      • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/03/2009 2:07:27 PM

        Muslims have been killing non-Muslims for centuries...long before Iraq and Palestine or Israel or any other flimsy excuse the Muslims give to divert attention away from their violent religion.

        www.actforamerica.org

    • Posted By: partera @ 04/30/2009 1:37:06 AM

      Umm, YES, americans have been flying planes in muslim countries and killing thousands of innocent civilians for many years lately, and that is why many in the muslim world are angry at the american government. For example, nearly a MILLION civilians have been killed in Iraq from direct US military and paramilitary actions there (see iraqbodycount.org). It is a myth that "muslims hate americans because of our freedom," or any such nonsense. If people are angry it is because their relatives are being killed on the way to school or work, or in their own homes.

    • Posted By: rpearlston @ 04/28/2009 4:38:10 PM

      How about if you were to buy a clue. Excpet that you don't have to buy one, because I'm giving it to you for free. That's something you won't understand, but it is a gift to you.

      The problem, and you are a part of it, is extremism. Extremism has no color, no religion, no nationality and no creed expect the complete lack of respect for anyone else.

      Yes, those 19 men were extremists, and yes, they happened to be Muslim. But the Basque separatists are extremists, they've murdered hundreds, and they're Christian. THe Front de Liberation du Quebec was extremist, murdered and maimed humdreds, and they were Christian. Timothy McVeigh,another extremist, murdered well over 100 people, including innocent children in the day care center in the federal building in Oklahoma City, and he was Christian. The Shining Path, an extremist group in Peru, has murdered hundreds of people, and they are Christian.

      Once again, the problem has nothing to do with Islam or any other group. The problem is with extremists of every ilk, and with nothing but extreism. There's your clue.

    • Posted By: purple_state @ 04/28/2009 9:08:37 AM

      What about white Americans who drive trucks full of explosives into buildings where children are playing on the first floor? Do they get a pass? Does it make it ok because McVey was white? Was he not a terrorist? How about the Unibomber? A white man who terrorized the entire nation with his letter bombs. Was he not a terrorist? DSL1 you are a bigot. You fear anyone who is not a white christian. It's people like you that make Muslims in this country fear every one not Muslim. Every generation of Americans have been bigoted against one people or another. The Germans, Swedes, Irish, Polish, Africans, Asians, and on and on the list goes. Learn to embrace others and their culture it makes life so much easier. You might be surprised how much in common you have with a man if you just eat with him in his home. And in case you're wondering I'm a 24 year old white man from the mountains of North Carolina, I've seen people in my high school that had property burned to the ground by the KKK. There is no room for blind hate in this country and the scariest terrorists are the white ones I promise you that.

      • Posted By: YOUSOCRAZY @ 04/28/2009 12:57:10 PM

        #1 Kozinski and McVie are great examples, however now that weapon is empty (that was all there was).
        #2 They attacked what country? Their own, not international terrorism!
        #3 Multiply those two by 10,000 and you will be short of the instance of radical muslim extremist bombings, and they seem to share their munitions talent with the rest of the world!
        #4 No one is suggesting that muslims take infidals into their supposedly sacred land!

        • Posted By: apolemic @ 04/28/2009 1:57:40 PM

          And now, for a more coherent response...?
          Yeah, I admit it, I'm just here to stir things up today. ;)
          Carry on!

          • Posted By: YOUSOCRAZY @ 04/28/2009 2:57:21 PM

            Posted By: apolemic @ 04/28/2009 1:57:40 PMAnd now, for a more coherent response...?
            Yeah, I admit it, I'm just here to stir things up today. ;)
            Carry on!

            And now for the true meaning of the above: "I like to play with rattle snakes and if you don't that is bias or racism"!

      • Posted By: DSL1 @ 04/28/2009 12:16:30 PM

      • Posted By: DSL1 @ 04/28/2009 12:14:03 PM

  • Posted By: Daytona2 @ 05/03/2009 1:12:20 PM

    Hadia Mubarak said..."you can be both a devout Muslim and a patriotic American". No offense, but I don't think you're going to find many people who believe you! As people learn more about Islam and radical Muslims, they are learning that Muslims are taught to hate non-Muslims and to also deceive non-Muslims (look up Hudna and Taqiyya, etc.). The are also taught that they are superior to non-Muslims, so why would they want to assimilate with people they feel superior to? They don't want to assimilate. It's especially interesting that you hear few (if any) Muslims speak out against the radicals. The bottom line is...nobody believes you and nobody trusts you!

    www.actforamerica.org

  • Posted By: Laila Alee @ 05/02/2009 3:40:00 AM

    Great article, beautifully written! I almost forgot to comment on the article, since I had to reply to all of the ignorant but yet very sad comments written by all these non-educated individuals who clearly want to spread hate, fear, and division amongst us as people. Peace be with you all!.

    • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/02/2009 9:31:06 PM

      Do you think, you could take time out and check into the Historical Facts of Islam? Do you think you have brain cells enough left to question what you believe?
      Islam is a fraud. Why is Islam a fraud?
      1)Because the Allah of Islam does not exist: Historically Allah is a moon goddess from Babylon, imported into Arabia by the Last King Of Babylon, 800 years before Mohammed was born!
      2)Because Mohammed was not a prophet. Mohammed, by biblical standards, never served under a King and never was a prophet. Mohammed was obsessed with conquering. His was the terror of his days, he slaughtered whomever did not submit. Mohammed is great indeed; he is probably the greatest conqueror in human history: 1400 years, 1.2 billion clones copying his sick lifestyle without questioning!!! No other conqueror in human history can take credit for that.
      2)Because historically, Mohammed Never set foot in Jerusalem much less did he fly on a donkey when he died. How delusional can you be?
      3)Because, the Kabaa in Meccah holds nothing but the remnants of an Astroid/Meteorite. You are walking around a meteorite like a demented creature, unable to question what the hell you are doing.
      4)Because Abraham never set foot in Meccah. You got some spring cleaning to do in your dusty quran, the Mohammed Manual how to murder and torture your fellow man... Why don't you ask the Saudis to open up the Kabaa and display the god inside, the god you walk around like a demented creature throwing stones at your imaginary devils? Crazy people.
      Can the great Hadia Family explain why Muslims cannot learn Islamic History? Could it be that that the deceitful card house would fall apart? If the Kabaa is soo real with the god allah, open it up! Have a look at the Meteorite you worship! Your imaginary friends, your Delusional state of mind, unable of rational thinking, a family producing stories with imaginary friends willing to go to war for. Their very essence is in blatant violation with the very principles of freedom. Yes, this country has freedom of worship and Sharia is not a religion, and your entire story is a lie of imaginary friends you cannot prove. Get a grip or check into an appropriate institution to get rid of your mental illness.

      Don't you talk peace, when all you think of is war.

  • Posted By: drjrrao @ 05/02/2009 2:20:48 PM

    why do you want to tell us all the time that you are a Muslim?Is it pluralism or "Divisionism?And my dear devout Muslim,do you beleive in Ummah,and are you redy to teach little pluralism to Saudis and take your freinds hanging big crosses there?I am sorry that columns like "Faith" are still printed and heap on us such
    rigmarole.

  • Posted By: DonJuan @ 05/02/2009 3:22:35 AM

    Gardener,

    What is this "Native America" that you speak of that shows women to be equal to men? Oh, you must be referring to the same place that women can earn the same degrees and have the same work experience as a man, and still, yet, somehow get paid *less* than a man. Or wait, you must be referring to the same America that objectifies women into being show pieces at entertainment venues. My, how the rest of the world should learn from us, right?

    How recently did the United States give pass the 19th amendment allowing women the right to vote? 1920. How many centuries did women have to be 2nd class citizens to their husbands to simply own property??? Hee-haw gardener, where's the greatness of this "native america" ??

    How long ago did Islam eradicate women of the torturous ancient burial of females while they were still alive and grant them their God given rights as human beings to own, earn, and be equal but different to men? Over 1,400 years ago.

    Get offline and go read a book. And don't be jealous of the author just because she seems to be more educated than you from *your* home universities, even though they really have no affiliation or ties to you in the first place. Moron.

  • Posted By: Laila Alee @ 05/02/2009 3:00:08 AM

    To The Garderner,

    You tend to have some serious mental issues and I hope that you seek help ASAP. If you have something to say about the religion of Islam, than PLEASE go educate yourself first and learn about the fastest growing religion not only in America but the WORLD. Also, do no say anything about the Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H), because you clearly speak out of hate, anger, and pure IGNORANCE. FYI- Michael Hart ranked The Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) as the world's most influential person. Also, do not speak negatively about a religion which had a major POSTIVE impact on western civilization. One word of advice, THINK. You need to use your brain and flesh out the ignorance, hate, and racisim in you. Islam is a religion of peace and whether you believe in it or not it is your choice, but at least educated your ignorant mind about the religion. For God's sake, do us all a favor and stop writing about false facts that you just heard on fox news. Pick up a book, talk to Muslims, better yet first clear out all the hate in your heart that you've for the religion of Islam and Muslims and then I am sure you would be then enlightened to what Islam truley stands for, and that is peace and justice for not only Muslims but for MANKIND.

    PEACE!

  • Posted By: Laila Alee @ 05/02/2009 2:57:55 AM

    To The Garderner,

    You tend to have some serious mental issues and I hope that you seek help ASAP. If you have something to say about the religion of Islam, than PLEASE go educate yourself first and learn about the fastest growing religion not only in America but the WORLD. Also, do no say anything about the Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H), because you clearly speak out of hate, anger, and pure IGNORANCE. FYI- Michael Hart ranked The Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) as the world's most influential person. Also, do not speak negatively about a religion which had a major POSTIVE impact on western civilization. One word of advice, THINK. You need to use your brain and flesh out the ignorance, hate, and racisim in you. Islam is a religion of peace and whether you believe in it or not it is your choice, but at least educated your ignorant mind about the religion. For God's sake, do us all a favor and stop writing about false facts that you just heard on fox news. Pick up a book, talk to Muslims, better yet first clear out all the hate in your heart that you've for the religion of Islam and Muslims and then I am sure you would be then enlightened to what Islam truley stands for, and that is peace and justice for not only Muslims but for MANKIND.

    PEACE!

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/01/2009 2:58:44 PM

    And another thing you don't have to like us that's fine hinestly I don't care the less dramatic people in my life with problems the better but why resort to personal attacks against hadia? Why demonize a religion that a quarter of the world follows? U don't like us good but I'll tell u one thing racism and violence against us or anyone for that matter Muslim or not is unaccecptable. Your hate filled rhetoric is scary and dangerous .

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 05/01/2009 2:27:47 PM

    This message is to the Garderner:

    With that said, Hadia Mubarak is as American as Apple Pie, and u know why? because in America there is something called religious freedom and the right to wear what you want so yes she is as American as Apple Pie, She was born and raised here so she is an American. Second, dont even bring up Native Americans into this discussion, because trust me they look with horror at you, a descendant of the pillagers who raped this country. And what imam are you talking about??? if youre going to make a point at least make it coherent.

    Nobody and im going to say this again, nobody cares if youre muslim or not. trust me, i dont care one bit if u arent muslim , and neither do any of my friends, you seem to think that muslims want to change this country and want to convert everyone, HA! TRUST ME, we dont care, Ive got better things to deal with in my life than trying to convert you. Repeat: we dont go knocking on peoples doors trying to convert them. haha. . And what book are you talking about? cite the author so I can check it out for myself.

    And one last thing, please for the love of god pick up a book and read it dont rely on Fox news for all things Islam. LOL. The kaba was the first house of God builtt by Abraham , where the heck are you geting asteroid from? seriously this is funny. Muslims respect Christians and Jews, if you dont believe me pick up a Quran and read it in its entirety without relying on Fox news and bogus internet sites. If we didint, than why the heck do we put so much respect on Abraham , and Jesus peace be upon him.

    You know, it sounds liek you have some pent up pyschological issues. Go deal with that first, than maybe we can have a coherent discussion.

    Again, I applaud Hadia Mubarak! She is awesome.

  • Posted By: TheGardener @ 05/01/2009 12:55:12 PM

    Hadia Mubarak, ...as American as Apple Pie... Who are you kidding? Do you enjoy insulting a free country?

    You stand for whatever America NEVER WAS and hopefully never will be. Native America looks at you with horror. There is nothing Apple Pie about you, but very much the islamic militant who wants to change the American Apple Pie into a country, as your imam puts it, of men without self-control and women who never mature.

    Your militant islamic dresscode stands for everything Turkey and Ataturk forbid to be, Habib Bourguiba from Tunesia took off, the headscarf,30 yeara ago, and placed the woman as the equal to the man. You, Hadia Mubarak, (or is it Cindy in another life?) are the religious fraud, the bigot, that exploits your fellow man, who dreams of an American Apple Pie in shackles of slavery, of men without self-control and women are property, braind dead.

    Hadia Mubarak, please tell the world what the Kabaa really is. Please let the world know you do not worship the remnants of an Astroid/Meteorite. Please tell the world that your pillars with imaginary devils are a fiction of your delusional mind. Please tell the world how Mohammed, who never set foot in Jerusalem, flew on a donkey after he died.

    Please Hadia Mubarak, tell the world how noble a man Mohammed was, after he kidnapped some excellent arabic girls, gang raped them, then sold them the next morning on the slave market while...he had 13 wives at home. See Book of Marriage, Chapter 22, book 008 verse 3371.

    Please Hadia Mubarak, tell the world about the sick perverted delusional god-belief you make a militant display for and how you want to change the recipe of the American Apple Pie.

    You make me sick.
    Hadia Mubarak, your militant statement is an insult to every woman, to freedom, and happiness. You stand for abuse, oppression, deceit, lies, degradation, religious falsehoods with which you exploit your fellow man, an insult to humanity, and undignified to every man and woman. You are an insult to every woman who struggles for equality and freedom.

  • Posted By: sm07 @ 05/01/2009 10:46:36 AM

    Thanks Newsweek, and what an excellent writer! We should definitely see more articles like this !!

  • Posted By: maggiejay @ 04/28/2009 3:51:52 PM

    nrutym--- I get sick of hearing this 'separation of church and state' thing. This country was founded by Christians and while they did want a separation of church and state, you've got the wrong idea. They did not believe in a state run church.. ie the Church of England. Why would they not want God apart of their politics when they believed so firmly in his divine power? They just didn't want to be forced into a church they didn't believe in just because the king was running it. Henry VIII for example made himself supreme head of the Church of England, saying that God himself spoke to him and therefore, his word was God's words. Henry VIII was a total lunatic. That is what the puritans/forefathers wanted to avoid.
    I am an athiest, I don't care much for any religion. But it does not bother be one bit to say "In God we Trust" or "One nation under God", because that is what America was founded on.
    A STATE RUN CHURCH nrutym.. that's what a separation of church and state means.

    • Posted By: Constitution Lover @ 05/01/2009 9:59:25 AM

      "I get sick of hearing this 'separation of church and state' thing. This country was founded by Christians and while they did want a separation of church and state, you've got the wrong idea. They did not believe in a state run church.. ie the Church of England. Why would they not want God apart of their politics when they believed so firmly in his divine power? "

      Actually you have it wrong. They did not want religion to be insinuated into government andy more thatn they wanted government insinuated into religion. . It was intended as a two way protection.


      "I am an athiest, I don't care much for any religion. But it does not bother be one bit to say "In God we Trust" or "One nation under God", because that is what America was founded on."

      I am now an atheist, but was raised as a practicing Jew. Although I do not have a problme with "In God We Trust" on our money (although I have been known o change the word "god" to Dog" on some paper money), I have alwasy refused to say "under God" in the pledge. It was illegally put in as a McCarthyist ploy in the 1950s and should be removed.

      "A STATE RUN CHURCH nrutym.. that's what a separation of church and state means."
      That is one part of what it means. But it is not the only reason.

  • Posted By: Doc2009 @ 04/30/2009 3:42:00 PM

    First off I want to applaud the author and Newsweek for printing a different perspective. All we ever hear on T.V. or read in newspapers are biased and negative perspectives on Islam and Muslims which have helped to fuel half the comments on this site against Islam. I am pleased that a positive Islamic perspective is being offered.

    Second, this message is for keagos. Wow you really have some deep psychological issues and your infatuation with the Muslim Hijab (scarf worn by muslims) is really disturbing. Part of what makes America awesome is our right to wear what we PLEASE, that means the author and myslef included can wear hijab on our heads whenever we want to just like someone can decide to wear a bikini if they so choose. It really is unfortunate that Turkey has decided to ban the hijab. Rather than trying to emulate the U.S. , they have decided to limit personal freedoms. Sad. I dont konw why youre so hot and bothered by someone wearing hijab. Personally, I dont care if you like it or not and I dont care if you like me or not. It doesnt bother me one bit if someone wears a yamaka or wears a bikini. You need to resolve your psychological issues. In fact, most of my friends are not muslim and wear whatever they want. One thing is for certain, you may not like us, thats fine and dandy, but racism, intolerance and criminal acts against us will NEVER BE acceptable. Everyone on this site needs to educate themselves. No one has ever read the Quran in its entirety (without cutting and pasting verses to support their own biases), has ever traveled to a muslim country or befriended and really gotten to know a muslim. So dont sit there and spew your racist rhetoric when you have NO IDEA what you are saying and dont have a credible platform in which to speak.

    Lastly, as a medical doctor here in the U.S. I was born and raised here, this ismy country,my decendants were native americans . I am a true American who also happens to wear hijab. And I can tell you one thing. Muslims arent concerned with imposing their beliefs on tohers. We dont go knocking on peoples' doors trying to get them to convert. Also, I know people from every spectrum of belief, from the most liberal to the most conservative and NOT ONCE have I ever heard anyone utter anything about imposiing our beliefs on others or not respecting the beliefs of other people. The reality is that racism is alive and well judging from the comments on this site, people want a reason to hate others and right now it is Islam and Muslims. But you know what? it wont be tolerated. So get informed.

  • Posted By: Thomm @ 04/29/2009 1:51:43 PM

    Leaving the politics aside, Ms Mubarak is trying to have her cake and eat it, too. Being a born American, she has to know what American culture is. She has to know that her chosen style of dress is not a part of that culture, which iis both her choice and perfectly acceptable. In fact, it's very much the same choice that the Amish, Mennonites and Hasidic Jews have made. The difference is that all of those groups acknowledge that they're setting themselves apart from the mainstream. In fact, they don't particluarly want to be a part of the mainstream. It's not like someone taking the individualist step of dressing differently from everyone else. It's a sort of uniform that says "I'm part of this group." She can't reasonably expect people not to then acknowledge that or react to it. Unfortunately for her, her chosen uniform calls to mind to many Americans a small band of extremists who have waged attacks on our culture. The Amish, on the other hand, are widely recognized as peaceful and respectful, if distant from, the mainstream culture. There are no Amish waging war on America. If she wants to have a reaction more like the Amish recieve, perhaps she should work harder at having her fellow wearers of that uniform act respectfully of the different beliefs of others. Muslims in America, after all, have more freedom than any country where Muslims are a majority. Prosletyzing about that to the rest of the Muslim world would better serve her cause than scolding Americans.

    • Posted By: rpearlston @ 04/29/2009 8:07:22 PM

      Tjhe difference between the Amish, the Mennonites and other Christian denominations is that they are tiny minorities within that larger group. The difference between Orthodox Jews (including Hasidim) and other Jews is the same, that they are minorities within a larger religion.

      IIslam isn't a minorty within another religion. it is a religion in and of itself. That's where your anaolgy falls to pieces.

      LIke it or not, most Muslims aren't at war with anyone. The same is true of most but not all Christians, most but no all Jews, most but not all Hindus, etc.

      One can be an obervant adherrant of any religion wihout being an extremist, but it is the observant members who tend to differentiate themselves from the majority of the population by the way that they dress or eat or act. Then again, so do many members of the military, and that includes the wearing of a uniform.

      Your protests that this is about Ms Mubarak's chosen mode of dress aren't about her dress at all. They are about your prejudice towards all Muslims. If they weren't, you would hsve nothong about which to write.

    • Posted By: Ron Paul For Pope @ 04/29/2009 4:24:27 PM

      Your argument is reasonable. Choices, however minor, have consequences, however minor.

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