Rebranding Hate in the Age of Obama

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  • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 04/28/2009 1:36:47 PM

    Stories like this are used by political "news" groups and here for BACKDROP behind Obama's Homeland Secretary who made a big fool out herself, by offering (her) this "indipendently researched" fig leaf.
    Notice no mention of Bill Ayres brand hate and loathing. Aand how do hate groups actually "benefite" when it can only be attracting more people who hate?
    That's not a benifit to any organizatin!
    Good press benifits hate groups, and we have seen news week caste Bill Ayres as some kind of folk hero, who has "reformed ' his life.
    I don't believe News Week would recongize a hate group if they sat with News Weeks board of directors. It's about love.Love of liberal journalists! Why don't you find something constructive and productive to do?

    • Posted By: Metropony @ 04/28/2009 5:29:55 PM

      Your point might hold a bit more meaning to journalists if you made a remotely decent effort to spell anything correctly in your argument; including Newsweek - which is boldly displayed all over this page. And ignoring the redundancy of Newsweek sitting down with Newsweek, i'm still confused by that one, how does "liberal journalism" come into an article about hate groups having the perfect recruitment climate right now? They do. Many people are struggling, unhappy, and looking for something to blame. That is the way things work. In times of intense struggle, people either find God, find anger, seek change, or all of the above.

      • Posted By: tom343 @ 04/28/2009 6:04:01 PM

        You can make it through his spelling, just fine. Address his issues or go away.

      • Posted By: archmsu @ 04/28/2009 5:45:37 PM

        Good point, but the article is crap.......................

  • Posted By: jock59801 @ 04/28/2009 5:40:55 PM

    PeaceTheRobot: Darfur is not black on black genocide, although Rwanda certainly was. Also in this century we have had genocide of white on black (Belgian Congo), white on white (Holocaust), and various Asian pogroms. Apparently genocide is a HUMAN failing, independent of any artificial "race" concept.

  • Posted By: perkaminner @ 04/28/2009 4:55:20 PM

    Look where they're from. Proof that ignorance breeds hate.

  • Posted By: Queenifer34 @ 04/27/2009 1:50:06 PM

    Scientific fact, diversity improves the genetic stock. Inbreeding and ignorance produce these idiots. Not to mention, are we going to deport all white races to Europe cause that is where we all came from originally, the native americans were here first, but I am sure none of these groups want to give them any land. What is the argument there, "we stole it first fair and square"? Hypocritical morons.

    • Posted By: Divinefate @ 04/28/2009 3:42:15 PM

      I agree please send me back to brittian! I don't want to be in america...but while your at it please send all the blacks back to africa to liive in a grass hut and hunt for food so they can see they really had nothing to gripe about in the first place! However EXCELLENT POINT!!! This land was stolen from the native americans they are the REAL victims here. GIVE IT BACK TO THEM!!! All everyone of us have done is ruined it and made the rest of the world hate us anyway

      • Posted By: YOUSOCRAZY @ 04/28/2009 4:11:45 PM

        And what about the literally hundreds of native American tribes that were killed off by those still existing "poor souls" you speak of that were admittedly taken advantage by the more technologicaly advanced Europeans who did do just what the more highly technological people of history always did to the American natives who had prior to European incursion, killed off the possibly truer original human occupiers of the North American continent, say like the Anisazzi?

        From the begining of time one group of humans has killed off tribes or clans or added to the diversity of those clans or tribes by taking the women or children as part of the dominant group. No good or bad to it, it is just pragmatic data and attempting to now asign blame, guilt or "reparations" does nothing but weaken the still remaining people of the beaten group. If you don't believe that, look at the American natives of today or the predominant welfare recipient groups to see how well they have responded societly and culturely.

  • Posted By: drobe @ 04/27/2009 2:58:56 PM

    I'd like to cover briefly the following three questions: 1) Is racism funny?; 2) Can teachers explain racism? and 3? Can racists change?
    I. Although dangerous, racism can also be funny. My wife (U. S. citizen via another country) once laughed when she saw a documentary about a famous black singer (Marian Anderson) they refused to let sing at the "Lincoln" Center because of her skin color. I asked, "what's so funny?" She said, "it was funny cause it didn't make sense."
    ???I thought about that for a while. I thought about a famous Irish tenor (Ronan Tynan) with big ears, who sings the national anthem once in awhile at Yankee Stadium. What if they wouldn't let him sing because of his big ears. She was right, it was pretty silly not to let her sing because her skin was not white.
    ???II. Teachers (I'm one) have a hard time these days explaining racism or slavery. The kids in school, just don't get it. They keep asking why -- when it comes to racism.

    Returning Confederate soldiers were not happy to discover that they fought for years in order to try and maintain a way of life for a few aristocratic land/slave owners. Some are still upset. Unfortunately, today, many people are being manipulated by a republican aristocracy.

    III. The only way racists will ever change, is for them to struggle with racism until they change their minds. I did, when I was a younger. I'm glad I don't have to face that issue on judgement day.

    I believe that many are truly struggling with their thoughts. Some are rationalizing why they don't like President Obama. Instead of admitting the real reason, they call him a socialist, fascist, muslim, elitist, non-citizen, etc... I'm optimistic that their struggle will lead a few to change their minds.

    ...and if "they" choose not to change, then give them their own country. The ancient dinos were cold-blooded. The modern ones are cold-hearted and funny. They can call it Dinostan.

    • Posted By: Divinefate @ 04/28/2009 3:36:07 PM

      Try explaining it like this: its the gangs that perpetuate racism...look at the gangs: Latain kings, black gangster diciples...they commit crimes against eachother based on skin color....If the hate and violence would stop from the so called minorities in these gangs it would spread out because those that are doing right and living by the law wouldnt be in fear for their families anymore. Then we could all live peacefully. you ever seen that movie "freedom Writers"? such a wonderful message there...unite them and get them off the violence and the rest will follow suite!

  • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 04/28/2009 3:34:52 PM

    As I type this, i see an advertisment..about....ahh! Cheerios! It is News Week telling me Cheerios are good to eat! But News Week lies. News Week no tellum whole truth.News week has a good things are bad, and bad things are good formula!
    I don't think it's good for me to eat cheerios now. I think I'll E-mail Genral Mills and tell them on which GOOD AUTHORITY I must conclude thier product and best effort sucks!
    I hope General Mills stays in buisness longer than News Week! America needs good buisness! And hard working people! Not bailouts, taxation without hesitation or News Weeks brand of hate.

  • Posted By: Divinefate @ 04/28/2009 3:23:53 PM

    Seroiously! Let's talk about the real issue of all of the Black and mexican gangs out there killing raping robbing etc....Oh no that's right you can't do that because that would be racist?!!? Focus on MS13 and GD, BGD, VL, UVL, Latain Kings etc and all of the crap they do. Oh its ok to have the NAACP, UNCF etc...Where is the White version of that that is publically accepted? People preach about equality yet there is none! if it were truely EQUAL Whites could have the same rights to organize as these other races or NO ONE WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT!!!

  • Posted By: sieg6529 @ 04/28/2009 1:12:43 PM

    these people don't have enough to do. their lives are empty if the best way they see to spend their time is hating others.

  • Posted By: SrAN @ 04/28/2009 10:28:36 AM

    First off I would like to start by stating that I in no way advocate the use of violence and I do not back up ANY group that uses violence or intimidation. I will state though that America has taken a new direction with racism, many have begun calling it reverse discrimination. Take for instance the most recent Supreme Court Case of the New Haven, CT Firefighters. The 19 white and 1 hispanc firefighters were denied promotion because their black counter parts did not score as high and the city was worried about a law suit based on racism. Could that not be considered racist? They looked at the color of someones skin when deciding on a promotion.
    Finally, what is the problem if these "supremisist" groups are gathering in a mild mannered, peaceful way? If the topic of their discussion doesnt suit you then dont listen. Every person here is entitled to their own opinion right, wrong or otherwise. If the people belonging to these groups believe that they are being mistreated in anyway then they have the right to peacefully gather to voice their concerns. You can't give freedom to those you deem worthy, freedom is for everyone whether you agree with them or not.

    • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 04/28/2009 1:09:19 PM

      "The 19 white and 1 hispanc firefighters were denied promotion because their black counter parts did not score as high and the city was worried about a law suit based on racism. Could that not be considered racist? "

      Of course it's racist. AA is by definition racist.

      EO is a better way to go. It only addresses discrimination when it actually happens.

    • Posted By: martialguy @ 04/28/2009 12:54:11 PM

      Treatment for the disadvantaged can be illustrated in the way we spend so much money building wheelchair ramps to accommodate equitable access to public facilities; or in the way we give our seats to seniors on a bus. We treat seniors and people with disabilities better to give them equitable access to services. Only when race becomes an issue in a process such as promotion; why not aiming as close as possible to promote 8 whites and 2 non-whites; giving the fact that 20% of US population is not white?
      Not all political discussion is peaceful. The American Revolution is a case in point. Now that we live in a democracy; we have to realize the danger of groups, white or non-white, that promote discussions of hatred at the expense of racial harmony; even though the law might tolerate them to the extent of free speech. Free speech being hijacked to promote racial hatred can lead to serious violence and war. Germany learns this the hard way with the Nazis and Neo-fascism.

    • Posted By: jstepp590 @ 04/28/2009 10:56:42 AM

      Agreed. As long as they do not step out of line and start breaking the law then they have a right to do whatever they want.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 04/28/2009 11:43:29 AM

    Their being Watched by Government Branches.

    Tell them, it was George W. Bush and his Cronies that they gave a pass to, for the Past 8 Years and they now want to use President Obama as a Tool to Recruit New Talent...

    Ha !!

    They were doing this Throughout the [Presidential Election 08]

    Nothing New here.


    How can these Low life's Reconcile the [Bush-Cheney Years] is Beyond Irrational...

    Its Blatant Race Hate !!

    Obama has been President for what [15 Weeks]

    Yet these racist Clowns have Qualm with President Obama !!

    I guess having a Cabinet from the Top-Middle and Lower ranks of President Obama's Administration must really have them [Fuming]


    I Hate these Racist Hate Groups !!

    The Un-Holy Roller, Loves them, with All his Heart and Soul !!!

    • Posted By: bjsassy @ 04/28/2009 12:58:04 PM

      Please read your comments again. You sound as extremist as some of the hate groups featured in the article. Have you tried anger management classes? It might do you a world of good. Must you politicize everything? Hate groups traditionally spring up during hard economic times, but the Ku Klux Klan's membership actually fell during the Great Depression. I wonder why. Does anyone know?

      There was a Neo-Nazi rally in St. Louis recently. The group drew from all parts of the country. Do you know how many of them were at the rally? Seventy! A larger crowd showed up carrying signs and protesting their appearance. It turned out to be a peaceful encounter. Of course, the media gave the Nazis more airtime than the protesters. It was exactly what the Nazis wanted. On that same day, another group held a rally in Forest Park. This was about respect for diversity. They did not get quite the coverage. Nazis are more interesting.

    • Posted By: bjsassy @ 04/28/2009 12:35:11 PM

  • Posted By: paulte @ 04/28/2009 12:16:12 PM

    The problem is that any discussion of the white race per se is dismissed right away as extremism. It's obvious to anyone who knows anything about politics that non-Hispanic whites are shrinking as part of the American pie. Is consern over that by white people racism? I think not. When the demographics of a nation change, the nation itself changes. Then there is the term "Hispanic." Who came up with that one? It's automatically assumed that Hispanics are not white; they are brown. But is this really true? No, it is not. A certain percentage of Hispanic people are of white (Spanish) ancestry only. These people should not be classified as a race other than white. And so the nonsence in America goes!

  • Posted By: Flanders @ 04/28/2009 11:29:18 AM

    Good article, a few thoughts come to mind.

    1. The "they took r jobs" episode of Southpark. One of the best ever.

    2. Following the horrible logic that whites were the first here, so its our land and our country, what are white power groups or "white pride" groups like this thoughts towards the real native americans? Anyone know?

  • Posted By: PopulistSouth @ 04/26/2009 11:06:47 AM

    The Political Cesspool Radio Program is a wonderfully unique show, professionally hosted, that has interviewed everyone from Pat Buchanan to Ted Nugent. Their primary host has appeared on CNN repeatedly. I am a big fan of the show and consider it to be lazy lef-wing journalism (at best) to label them as "White Supremacists" simply because they dare speak candidly about the egregious double standards and disconnects that are offered to us by political correctness. I am sure the editors of Newsweek are hoping that its readers will simply be willing to take your word as fact, rather than actually researching the show and forming their own conclusions. The "maintream media" really needs to grow up.

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/28/2009 11:26:05 AM

      theres a massively huge difference between talking about current injustices perpetrated by affirmative actions, and talking about being part of a "supreme" race. i dont agree with affirmative action either, being that it is no longer needed to help minorities get ahead in life, BUT to claim reverse racism or whites are being opressed is a far cry from the truth. if your "supreme" how are you being opressed again? whats that? america is STILL predominately "white"? whites still have most positions of power within almost every type of business/government organization? really, huh, funny. yeah, it really seems like those whites have been opressed for SOOOO long and have endured SOOOO much hardship... must be rough...

      and the nazis used the media as a propaganda machine to reach like minded folks, like yourself. and since the show is of a conservative nature, and im almost positive (without ever heard the program before) that they talk about left wing/socialist/liberal people as being the messangers of doom for america and all that it represents. no? yes?

      for the record, im "white", but alas, i am just another HUMAN, part of the human RACE. and since we all live here, we have only this planet to live on, its high time we drop this "supremacy" crap.

    • Posted By: stholas @ 04/28/2009 10:52:14 AM

      Er....do you have any idea how the Nazis came to power in the first place????

      • Posted By: jstepp590 @ 04/28/2009 10:55:17 AM

        I know exactly how. Do you?

  • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 04/28/2009 10:55:49 AM

    im all for being proud of your race/history/lineage/culture..... but "supremacy"? i wonder how many mainly african american organizations there are that tout "black supremacy"? or "asian supremacy'? anyone?

    herein lies the root of the problem. thinking that based on your skin color you are inherantly better than a person of "color".

    last i checked, all these red-neck Pabst blue ribbon drinking, nascar watching, hilter praising, white sheet wearing, cross burning loonies bleed red blood, they sit when they sh!t, and they eat McDonlads like everyone else. they work the same kinds of jobs, have the same kinds of families, have the same kinds of goals in life (life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness) ect...

    can some one please tell me how warped you have to be to beleive you are part of a supreme "race" when they OBVIOUSLY havent noticed these simple human attributes that we all share?

    another sad point, most of these idiots dont even know where they're european lineage comes from. its only about being white. childish, stupid, waste of energy endeavor.

  • Posted By: jstepp590 @ 04/28/2009 10:15:00 AM

    As long as they remain non-violent and focus on advancing their people I will allow them to live in peace. They day they step out of line I'll give them a severe reason to hate at least one white man. Nobody f**ks with my president, ever.

    I do agree with their working towards helping their people advance as long as they do not try to do it at someone elses expense based simply on their color. Education and exposure to other races is the cure for racism, usually.

    Why is it that the African Americans get MLK, the Indians get Gandhi and we end up with idiots? White power my sweet pale a*s!

  • Posted By: Mainer1776 @ 04/28/2009 8:19:34 AM

    Any mention of Robert Byrd, KKK and Democratic U.S. Senator from West Virginia?

  • Posted By: Danimal876 @ 04/26/2009 11:03:31 PM

    What's the difference between a "hate" group and a "civil-rights" group? Answer: one advocates for whites, while the other advocates for minorities. One is allowed, the other rejected out of hand. Demonizing any whites that look out for their own kind only leads to extremism on their part.

    • Posted By: 2cents @ 04/27/2009 3:41:37 PM

      No. One uses legal avenues the other uses intimidation. Name one court case where a white man was defended by a white supremecist legal group. You can't because there aren't any. Name one case where the NAACP lynched a white man to prove their point. Again you can't.

      • Posted By: Danimal876 @ 04/27/2009 10:12:59 PM

        What "White Supremacist" group? Most white groups out there do not espouse supremacy, they just express how they're sick and tired of affirmative action, double-standards, white guilt, and massive immigration from the third-world. Calling them white-supremacists is just a straw-man and ad-hominem attack.

        Look at the current U.S. Supreme Court case of Ricci v DeStefano. Racial preferences against whites is pervasive, and hopefully will be overturned in this case. And don't talk to me about racist crimes. 85 percent of interracial crime between blacks and whites are committed by blacks, against whites. http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

        • Posted By: martialguy @ 04/27/2009 11:27:30 PM

          This is the current US racial composition: white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%
          (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html). With 80% white, there has been no massive immigration to the land that was robbed from non-whites (native-Americans). When the affluent majority complains against the less affluent minority, for some show-case marginal equality correction, it is really called crying wolf. And don???t look down on third world countries yet. Just a few of those countries combined will have a larger economy than G7 quite soon.

        • Posted By: martialguy @ 04/27/2009 11:25:15 PM

  • Posted By: martialguy @ 04/27/2009 6:28:46 PM

    << The Mongol Empire was an empire from the 13th and 14th century spanning from Eastern Europe across Asia. It is the largest contiguous empire in the history of the world???. It is often identified as the "Mongol World Empire" because it spanned much of Eurasia??? ..At the time of Genghis Khan???s death in 1227, the Mongol Empire ruled from the Pacific Ocean to the Caspian Sea ??? an empire twice the size of the Roman Empire and Muslim Caliphate >>
    ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Empire)
    If you think one race is superior to all others; would you say the Mongols represent that supreme race because they ruled almost the whole world including the white race for the longest time?

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 04/27/2009 5:27:38 PM


    Then too,Conant is another of these hack apologists for the Obama administration ,trying to help Napolitano cover the damage she already created by reporting that one of the threats to ''Homeland Security'' is returning veterans joining ''rightwinged'' and ''white supremacy'' groups or organizations, while failing to observe that its is leftwinged groups who appear on the FBIs Most Wanted,who practice their own brand of hatred. In the supreme irony, the movement towards ''green''will acclerate radical behaviors based upon defenses of animals and the environment,while the other,based upon what these see as racial defense, tones down the rhetoric and begins to move in more law abiding fashions.[STORMFRONT,for one example,not being wanted by any law enforcement agencies anywhere]. Thus does ''power'' begin to morph into ''pride'',as these groups view it.

  • Posted By: ravenbear01 @ 04/27/2009 5:07:21 PM

    We have people of all colors in the USA, this Country was founded on, All men are created Equal! So we know the White people wrote this declaration "Are founding Fathers as we call them" Now the Question is Fear? Are ancestor's came from across the pond looking for Freedom, Freedom of religion, Freedom of Speech, We see the numerous religions, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, etc,etc,etc, Are founding Fathers were driven by the Roman Christian Faith which had forced people to convert People of the Indo-European Race And others, Nordic, Scandinavian, German, Anglo Saxon descent. These people were Heathens, Pagans, Good Folk? Now we as white people have a identity crisis? Who are we? Well Christian is from the Middle eastern Race, Muslims are from the Middle eastern Race, Buddhists are Asian Race, Hindus Indian Race. There you'll find there believes intact! We have all festivities that deal with African, Mexican & others, etc,etc,etc, Now we as white People need to find our Roots? Look to the Pre-Christian believes of our Indo-European ancestry, and there you'll find yourself, No hate, No fear, just ones Right. And as we in the USA are naturally born here, or who have completed the corse to become Citizens, then we as a People should be aware of our right to live the American Dream"White, Black, Yellow, Red AMERICANS. & I'm sorry, but Jesus wasnt White!

    Odin

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