‘We Could Have Done This the Right Way’

This another America foundng Father said about Jews:

"The Jews work more effectively against us than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in. It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pests to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."

George Washington


I'm Proud & fascinating to Know how wise Our forefathers Projections on the Jews. Amazing the accuracy,Hundred of Years Old to be the truth even before nazi holocaust .,

Senator Joe Lieberman,another Jewish almost cost chaos to Obama Presidency,as example,Frankly We don't know what his real position are, as An Amercan Congress Or Representing Israel? He's nor a Democratic,Republican,Independence?,Another Great Manipulator, They should remove him from The Committee on Armed Services is a committee of the United States Senate empowered with legislative oversight of the nation's military, including the Department of Defense, military research and development, nuclear energy (as pertaining to national security), benefits for members of the military, the Selective Service System and other matters related to defense policy.

History Don't Lie.

Mr. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, one of the framers of the Constitution of the United States, published his diary in which he says:

"Dr. Benjamin Franklin, a venerable figure weighed down by years and wisdom, leaned one hand on his staff, the other on the table and said, 'There is a greater menace to these United States of America than the strictly Roman....

'This greater menace, gentlemen, is the Jew!

'In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers they have lowered its moral tone; they have depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves; have not assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which this nation is founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state, and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially.

.. 'If you do not exclude them from the United States in his Constitution, in less than two hundred years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, change our form of government for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance, jeopardized our liberty, and put into it our best thoughts.

Even Krauthammer said in his op-ed piece last week, " you do what you have to do and, then, you take responsibility for it". My interpretation is that Bush/Cheney and all of their enablers need to confess there behavior. We need to discuss these issues intelligently. I can assure you that we will once again fall into line with regard to the Geneva Conventions and join the rest of the civilized World in condemning torture. Only pussies hide behind legal mumbo jumbo. Let's get past this. We have much bigger fish to fry at the present time, but we cannot let this unbridled power grab under the previous administration be the American standard.

The Age of McCarthyism by: Ellen Schrecker

"In 1946 motivated by his own obsession with the Red menace as well
as the need to find a major postwar mission for the FBI, Hoover
ordered the bureau to mount an intensive public relations campaign
to alert the American people to the internal threat of communism."

The quote makes light of another mission of the FBI the threat of
communism, it also points out that the FBI made use of an enemy
to the American people for funding. Perhaps partially the threat
of internet users is again simply a prefered enemy to the FBI for
employment tasks.

Communism is simply that one should realize that one is oppressed
and that one must produce out of the oppression.

Also the computer is able to optimize directions and statistics in
the economy.

The FBI will run of of food and water, making use of opposing these
therotical ideas as a task.

Hey I control the interest rate. I did put the oil to $147, then $40,
not $200 -it was a choice I made.

Kristina Brooker (126 395 086)

There must be a misprint within this article. It is true that Mr. Soufan was a key investigator in the USS Cole bombing. Mr. John O'Neill was the lead FBI Inspector. The bombing and subsequent investigation took place in October 2000. Mr. John O'Neill perished on September 11, 2001 in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. Your date of of 2002 must be a misprint.

There must have been a misprint with regard to this article. The information regarding Mr. Soufan as a key investigator and Mr. John O'Neill as the lead FBI agent on the USS Cole disaster is correct. Your dates are incorrect. This event took place on October 12, 2000, not in 2002. Mr. O'Neill perished in the September 11, 2001 attacks at the World Trade Center.

A great piece of journalism. I loved reading this piece. The United States became unreasonable in the eyes of the western world, because they were going against the ethos of their nation, when dealing with terrorism. Were slaves in the South, subject to such inhumane treatment, in the past, by some people? America is a great nation, and as a result, of some of the actions of particular Americans, she is being seen as morally weak.

There's nothing in this article that hasn't already been documented at greater length and in greater detail nearly a year ago by Jane Mayer in The New Yorker and in her book "The Dark Side." If you read The New Yorker, you can learn what will be in Newsweek a year later! No wonder the magazine's going out of business.

Another thread ruined by JohnGaltLakeTahoe's spamming.

Thanks, jerk.

I think its great this guy is speaking out. What do you gain when you become your enemy? After 8 miserable years in hell under a tattered Constitution, we sure know what you lose when you become like the bad guy......I have to say I really hope Dick Cheney and his kind have to answer to God someday for his twisted thinking.

Hey JohnGaltLaketahoe, are you gay or what? Turrets syndrome or just a plain moron?!

when you fight dogs, you act like a dog! Go tell Nick Berg that it's wrong to put a bag over somebody's head for twenty four hours or that water boarding is torture. Oh yeah, that's right. You can't tell him because he got his head sawed off by the same dogs that all liberals try to protect. Throw that "we're America and we"re better than that" bullsh*t attitude out the window. Tell that Nick Berg's family that! When you catch these animals, torture the hell out of them and make it known that it;s what's going to happen if they get caught.

can't finish the article because a major fact is wrong...uss cole bombing was BEFORE september 11 2001 not after....really..how does the reporter not know that?

5) That revelation that we've engaged in waterboarding and held prisoners in secrect CIA prisions is not news. The photos leaked from Abu Ghraib also damaged US reputation. Are you suggesting that we never release any information for fear of damaging US reputation? What if we were secrectly exterminating civilians in Iraq? Should we never pursue the truth for fear of inciting riots? That attitude only enables more abuse.

6) Many is not all. Would you not agree that perhaps many intelligence officials did not support the decision to use secret prisons and torture? And yes, intelligence gathering can still continue without using these harsh techniques. We don't torture. That's the point.

7) No. Those who attended those briefings were not allowed to bring aides, were not allowed to bring writing materials, were not allowed to speak about the information, and were not allowed to object to the process. Had they done any of these they would have been arrested for revealing classified information. In short, members of congress were not allowed to use their powers of oversight. They were not allowed to check the power of the executive. They had no choice.

8) I don't care. You are completely missing the point. We aren't refraining for torture for the benefit of the captives, we are refraining from torture because it matters to AMERICA that we don't torture. e signed international agreements saying that WE WOULD NOT TORTURE. We are better than torture. Why are you now ready to engage in a race to the bottom with our enemies. Our moral high ground is what distinguishes us from our enemies. Why are you so eager to give that up?

9) Are you saying we should have tortured the Japanese? See point number 8

In response to neocon:

1) This is a diversion. We aren't talking about torture in other parts of the world, we are talking about torture done by Americans. The fact is that America signed international treaties declaring that we would not engage in torture. It didn't say that we can torture our enemies as long as they previously engaged in torture far worse than what we were planning on doing. It didn't say we can torture in a time of war. It didn't say we can torture suspects as long as we think they know something that will prevent terrorist plots. It said we don't torture. Period.

2) I agree, but if you are suggesting that waterboarding is not torture, then I have to disagree with you. The United Nations has defined waterboarding as torture, and we are a signatory those treaties.

3) No. And no torture means no torture. Did you read US law differently? Is it torture if those same techniques were done to the two American journalists being held my North Korea? If you are going to argue that we should only be able to torture terrorists, then you are pushing the boundaries of what we agreed not to do. If you keep pushing boundaries further and further off, then it's not really a boundary now is it?

4) That's kind of the point. Lawyers should not be authorizing torture.