Fresh Questions About the CIA’s Interrogation Tapes

''They mislead us all the time''

Nancy Pelosi [D-Ca] House Speaker May 15,2009


But they [being the CIA] didn't ''mislead''you when you stood on the floor of the House in September of 2004 wielding CIA documents that found ''no link'' with Saddams Iraq and Niger in trying to acquire ''yellowcake uranium'' using these to whip Bush.
Heh. The hand that feeds is attached to the teeth that bite. Hence Pelosis already dumbstruck performance before the Washington Press Corps that is making her look more and more guilty,dishonest, and confused in what is now becoming the fight of her political life. One would immediately think that there is no surpise in the Cheneys and Gingrichs beating up on her, but when the second banana Steny Hoyer [D-Md] drops anchor on you and parks a shiv in your back, and when former friend and Democrat CIA Director Leon Panetta whips out the long knives then you know your in trouble, with the old ''Rove frog-march'' now replaced by the new Washington Post [May 15,2009] ''Pelosi crab walk''. The chief irony here,is that the Vader faction headed up by Cheney is beating the bejeezus out of the Democrat wannabe Jedis, who are actually the Sith in disguise, creating the now-famous ''deer-in-headlights'' look being increasingly adopted by Pelosi who ''stammered'' and ''fumbled through'' this mornings presser whereupon she laid the above egg that commences this missive.

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So much for the claims that valuable intelligence was produced by torturing detainees... if it were true, the CIA wouldn't have destroyed the best evidence to back up their otherwise unverifiable assertions.

As usual the only parts of the constitution that are written in granite are the ones pertaining to the geneva convention, but clearly there should be a light speed move to ammend all constitutional law that does not allow for the world shatteringly important gay marriage, abortion, removal of all borders and of course free medical care for all who for whatever reason that could never be their own fault hold a freakin' job for 1/10 of their lives!

Come on folks show some respect for the folks who lived fought and died after taking an oath to "defend the constitution of thre united states agains't all enemies foreign anf domestic. Muster up just enough common decency and courage to accept the risk of living as a free people.

I went to war for this nation and the least you can do is to show some respect for my brothers in arms who didn't come back by doing your part to defend this nation, its constituion and its laws from the thugs who have disgraced us. If we are too cowardly to pass this tradition on intact to our children we don't deserve the name American.

This country is morally bancrupt. We have leaders who go against the constitution and international law and we can't bring them to justice because the republicans won't coperate on new programs with the Obama administration. Politics sucks!!

THere is no justification in a Republic like America for any secrecy, about anything except information that would directly expose the identity of any agent of America to the point his or her life would be in danger! Period! Policy, political, process information by definition must be made public so the public can make a decison of whether to proceded or not! The governmnet is us and we can do what is neccessary if we do not what is being done by us for us!!! Being a Congress person must stop being a carreer choice, rather our representatives must be reluctant heros, doing the common good, for a limited time as a civic duty! There are far to many Stevens, Murthas, Waxmans, Bidens, and even Kennedys! A cap on "sevice" for a maximum of 6 years is vital, benefits for "service" need to be ended and only those such as Social Security, Medicare, provided.

..... and then there was dick Cheney outing a CIA agent who was working to keep REAL nuclear weapons out of terrorist hands.It's against the law too and It's called treason.

Whether or not torture works is completely irrelavent. IT IS AGAINS'T THE LAW end of story. Remember when YOU insisted Clinton was not above the law and should be impeahed for lying about a blow job?

Obama gave away our (former) secret intentions of a withdraw time table from Iraq, but wont divulge information to the public about the real scope and effect of interrogation, and intelligence gains. Because both topics were used--in different ways-- to ridicule a former administration.
Lieing is like riding a tiger. On it's back you can go a long way, but if you step off, you get eaten!
Obama can't get both feet on the truth in one case or restore confidence in our military plans in the other. Violence has gone up in Iraq threw April and the taliban and didn't stand and fight in Afgahnistan but slipped into another country, now!
As Barny Frank is to finance Obama is to national security and world stability. the audacity of clownmanship!

The simple fact is that Bush and Cheney disgraced our flag beyond repair, but they only reflected and manipulated the cowardice and need for vengence of our population as a whole. After 9/11 we were SO afraid of our own shadows we were willing to acept ANYTHING they did to "keep us safe". Invade Iraq? Sure. Torture? .....why not. Surrender the US Constitution? Who needs that worthless piece of paper.

As for the motives of our enemies, the history of the world didn't start on 9/11. If you pull you head out of that warm dark place where the sun doesn't shine you'll find that the world has suffered at our hands in many leathal ways in desperate places while we have gone about the task of collecting way more than our share of the world's resources to keep ourselves fat dumb and happy. That is the "our way of life" we kill and die for. We'd be reading about quaint far away things in the Middle East if they hadn't had the bad fortune of being born on top of OUR oil.

We elected Barrack Obama to make ourselves feel better. He is a Madison Avenue wet dream sold to us as if he was redemption itself. Our real shame and guilt made it all possible, but as with all things being sold by the corporate power structure he is mearly a cosmetic make over of the same old deal. There will be no real change under his watch. As a wholey owned subsidiary of Goldman Saches, he will continue to cover the clean get away of the greatest hiest in history. His so called health care plan will continue to mean that every illness you contract will be diagnosed by giant, over priced rectal probe administered by some Wall street controlled profit cente / insurance company.

If these interrogation techniques are viewed as toorture and the Iraqi War as wrong. What do you call what is going on in Afghanistan bombing terrorists homes and villages killing women and children in an effort to killl them. I would rather see these techniques used against known terrorists to gain information instead of killing women and children while targeting their terrorist family members.

This is purely democratic politics at its best. If a dem had followed a dem in the last election this would not be happening.
The oother problem for them is many of them knew and now that they have been caught they are playing the same game they did with the Iraq war vote.They voted for the resolution but not for going to war - it was despite their lies a war resolution and they knew it. The dems new line is they knew of the interrogation methods but did not know they were going to be used. Anyone democrat or republican who believes that is at best in denial and at worst an idiot.

Peggy Noonan put all the little torture problems to bed and tucked them in with their stuffed toys:

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/05/noonans-grace-of-torture-murder.html

SICKENIING BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF A DEMOCRACY. I HOPE WE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE WHOLE DIRTY BUSINESS.