Fresh Questions About the CIA’s Interrogation Tapes

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  • Posted By: Reg373 @ 05/06/2009 7:26:38 PM

    This is not a partisan issue, if we are a nation of laws. While CIA underlings are not at issue for following orders, those who crafted any that are in fact against the laws of the United States, cannot be just given a wink & nod -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth

    • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 05/07/2009 1:28:41 PM

      "While CIA underlings are not at issue for following orders,"

      We rejected the "I was only following orders" excuse when we tried the Nazis.

  • Posted By: freecitizen @ 05/07/2009 12:42:50 AM

    We're all talking like we KNOW what is what, I say we don't try anybody for their crimes against humanity until we've had a chance to waterboard them to see what they REALLY know.

  • Posted By: Seiun @ 05/03/2009 2:46:19 PM

    The people who authorized torture and those who are now defending it are cowards--pure and simple. They're so afraid of Al Qaeda that they've lost their marbles and are now willing to do anything--including abandoning American principles and the rule of the law--in order to gain a false sense of security. These are precisely the kind of people the terrorists were counting on when they attacked us on 9/11. Because the goal of terrorism is to use fear to cause people to change their behavior. And some Americans are willing to give in to the terrorists and let them turn America into something evil. I'm not. Not ever. And especially not when someone threatens me.

    • Posted By: John Dough @ 05/05/2009 11:19:18 PM

      Well let's see - waterboarding, sleep deprevation, smalll space confinement etc... are torture and wrong but bombing Afghan villages and killing women and children is okay. Obama has accelerated this war with stepped up bombing and the death toll gets no coverage unlike the left wing medias constant assault on Bush and daily casuality counts in both wars. The media has gone so silent you don't even realize we are at war anymore. They used the war propaganda tool to help defeat the GOP but now fail to cover it to prevent it from harming their party (DEMS). Thirty dead women and children today but don't waterboard terrorists trying to kill our citizens. THE LEFT WING MEDIA is showing their bias they do so willingly but they are no different then state controlled media in other countries. Their silence is speaking volumes.

      • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 05/06/2009 2:04:10 PM

        "Well let's see - waterboarding, sleep deprevation, smalll space confinement etc... are torture and wrong but bombing Afghan villages and killing women and children is okay."

        Who said it's okay? Oh, yeah. Nobody but you.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 3:02:11 PM

      If PrezBo-Zo and his "ship of fools" administration are going to release info...then RELEASE IT ALL...We deserve to see the RESULTS of these interrogations. Torture is a very subjective term...what defines it??? Using simulated drowning??? If any attacks were twarted...if any lives saved...what is worthy of...really, really scaring someone worth....If these swine had not declared war on all things Western...they wouldn't have to worry about it...

      If PrezBo-Zo thinks he can pick and choose what will be released...then WHEN the next attack on this homeland happens...he may as well start writing his resignation...He WILL be held accountable...

      Allah Akbar Y'all...

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: Seiun @ 05/03/2009 3:14:26 PM

        Before you talk about torture, why not subject yourself to it? One quality of many defenders of waterboarding (Sean Hannity included) is that they don't have the spine to actually endure it. They talk as if it's nothing, but they have no idea. Do it. Have someone waterboard you. It's easy enough to find instructions online. But have an ambulance standing by. According to instructors at SERE--the group that trains Navy Seals to endure torture--waterboarding can easily kill you. Have fun. Let us know the results, K?

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 3:30:25 PM

          I'm not a teerorist...I don't have info pertaining to U.S. National Security....as for morals and values...PrezBo-Zo gleefully endorses the killing of the unborn...uses taxpayer $$$ to expand it worldwide...and as an Illinois Senator, endorsed tossing "born alive" botched abortions in the trash...so don't talk morals and values...The left have very few....

          NOBAMA!!!

          • Posted By: Omaar @ 05/03/2009 3:44:10 PM

            Bush was a [Pro-Choice President]

            A!! Wipe !!

            Its Federal & State Law for a Woman to [Choose an Abortion]

            Not Yours or anyone Else's Decision...

            In Bush's [8 Years] as President and with a Majority Republican Senate & Congress for [6 Years] what did Bush do, to [Ban Abortions] Not a Damn Thing, nor did his [6 Year Majority Republican Senate & Congress]

            I guess They all have Partial Birth Abortions on their hands too..Huh

            No, their [Republican] Please...

            Go Away [HYPOCRITE]

            Abortion in Most Cases are Federal & State Law.

            What did your Governor do to [Ban Abortions] in your State and your State Legislature and US Congress and Senate..Hmm

            Not a Damn Thing !!

            ----------------------

            • Posted By: John Dough @ 05/05/2009 11:15:05 PM

              First of all most states still have abortion on the books as a crime but they do not enforce the law because we have allowed Supreme Court to legislate from the bench. Bush never had 60 senators in his court even during his four years with a GOP congress so the dems could fillibuster any attempt to ban abortions. Enough dems crossed over to ban partial birth abortion but he never had the votes to overturn Roe vs. Wade. Thats to bad too since we could use those 50 million aborted Americans to helppay for the babyboomers as they retire. They would also have kept our economy growing by having families etc... ZPG is an economy killer.

            • Posted By: John Dough @ 05/05/2009 10:58:30 PM

              It is not law it is legislation from the bench. If you look abortion is still a crime in many state statute books. It simply is not enforced because we have allowed the Supreme Court to exceed their authority by legislating from the bench. The democrats are particularly interested in this because they know their left wing agendas would never pass in most legislatures and certainly not with the electorate by referendum. That is why the Supreme Court should never make law they should decide matters and then send it back to the congress state legislature for review or revision.

            • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 3:51:19 PM

              Hey Goober...it is no one's RIGHT to kill a baby...especially because it is INCONVENIENT...bunch of HYPOCRITES!!!!

              NOBAMA!!!

        • Posted By: Vigilance @ 05/05/2009 1:36:54 PM

          Indeed. Cristopher Hitchens of Vanity Fair - a prominent liberal - did, however. He's an older man. I urge everyone to look at the pictures, they are very telling.

        • Posted By: Omaar @ 05/03/2009 3:45:16 PM

          Exacta, Correcto Mundo.....

          That's a Natural Fact

      • Posted By: Vigilance @ 05/05/2009 1:35:41 PM

        As long as it's all of them, Roller, not this "selective declassification" crap. I could selectively declassify a *** taco into Beluga caviar if I wanted to.

      • Posted By: sms29s66 @ 05/04/2009 9:40:56 AM

        Since when does the end justify the means? Are you free to rob a bank to pay your mortgage? It is truly astonishing to witness the utter lack of principles that has become acceptable to us.

    • Posted By: John Dough @ 05/05/2009 11:05:44 PM

      Well let's see - waterboarding, sleep deprevation, smalll space confinement etc... are torture and wrong but bombing Afghan villages and killing women and children is okay. Obama has accelerated this war with stepped up bombing and the death toll gets no coverage unlike the left wing medias constant assault on Bush and daily casuality counts in both wars. The media has gone so silent you don't even realize we are at war anymore. They used the war propaganda tool to help defeat the GOP but now fail to cover it to prevent it from harming their party (DEMS). Thirty dead women and children today but don't waterboard terrorists trying to kill our coitizens. THE LEFT WING MEDIA is showing their bias they do so willingly but they are no different then state controlled media in other countries. Their silence is speaking volumes.

  • Posted By: John Dough @ 05/05/2009 10:52:36 PM

    Today the dems said prosecution is not likely. It appears enough copies of those enhanced interroogation memos exist that the dems could not shred them all and then purify their denial. They continue to deny but only the stupid believe them and deny the truth. They knew and they approved.

  • Posted By: John Dough @ 05/05/2009 10:48:01 PM

    Today they said preosecution is not likely. It appears enough copies of those tactic memos exist that the dems could not shred hem them all and then deny. They continue to deny but only the stupid deny the truth. They knew and they approved.

  • Posted By: John Dough @ 05/05/2009 10:42:43 PM

    Well let's see - waterboarding, sleep deprevation, smalll space confinement etc... are torture and wrong but bombing Afghan villages and killing women and children is okay. Obama has accelerated this war with stepped up bombing and the death toll gets no coverage unlike the left wing medias constant assault on Bush and daily casuality counts in both wars. The media has gone so silent you don't even realize we are at war anymore. They used the war propaganda tool to help defeat the GOP but now fail to cover it to prevent it from harming their party (DEMS). Thirty dead women and children today but don't waterboard terrorists trying to kill our coitizens. THE LEFT WING MEDIA is showing their bias they do so willingly but they are no different then state controlled media in other countries. Their silence is speaking volumes.

  • Posted By: benkrapf @ 05/03/2009 10:00:32 PM

    HolyRoller fears non-whites.

    HolyRoller claims he isn't Republican, but his partisan attacks on Obama during the election speak differently.

    Like Fox News and Hannity and O'Reilly and Rush, HolyRoller thinks that no one remembers the things he says.

    At one point, Rush told Democrats that they should SHUT UP until they win an election. Well... Obama's president, so I suppose both RUSH and HOLYROLLER should...

    shut up.

    HolyRoller is persistent but has the memory of a goldfish and the charisma of a catfish. Like both, you will find him at the bottom of the pond, eating crap.

    • Posted By: Bella's a Pug @ 05/05/2009 3:47:13 PM

      holy roller is not a republican. he's an agitator and probably a democrat or just doesn't have a party. he just having fun. i like him.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 10:28:30 PM

      Well...ben full of krap...as usual...another typical obamamohammed comment...Call all detractors racist...never have anything of substance to say...great at lying...generally worthless...BTW...why DID you vote for Barry??? Was it his...mohammedness...or his metrosexualness...or because he is half black...or another communist like Barry?...you know, a red-diaper baby???

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: Vigilance @ 05/05/2009 1:38:44 PM

        I see we're back to this "obamamohammed" thing.

        Do you know why we as liberals don't want people like you setting Middle Eastern policy, Roller? Because you can't tell a Muslim from the hole in your ass.

  • Posted By: Dredd @ 05/05/2009 2:37:44 PM

    Torture is an example of the cold heart freezing the soul of a dying empire:

    http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/05/phases-of-empire-freezing-to-death.html

  • Posted By: Osama Bin Login @ 05/05/2009 2:20:28 PM

    If you support torture, no matter what you call it, you are un-American, and should probably move to a nation that more closely represents your values. North Korea or the UAR, for example.

  • Posted By: mohd @ 05/04/2009 10:52:17 PM

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  • Posted By: Gothicelvis @ 05/04/2009 8:34:39 PM

    To thehappyamerican, you are in some bad need of a reality check, and a further education. You my fellow american is why the rest of the world is laughing at us

  • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 05/04/2009 7:10:41 PM

    THIS ADMINISTRATION ISADMONISHING AND RULING OUT TOUGH INTEROGATION WHICH PERMITS WHAT?
    CAPTURE ENEMY COMBATANT MAKING BOMBS TO KILL AMERICANS AND WE DO NO QUESTIONING AT AL,BUT GIVE HIM A NEW PRAYER RUG, TO SHOW WE ARE NOT TOUGH! HE GETS TELEVISION,OF COURSE--TO SHOW WE ARE NOT TOUGH! AND AS A HERO IN HIS CULT HE IS ENTITLED TO VIRGINS,WICH THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ARRANGES THREW ACORN; A POLICY WICH MAY BE "TOUGH"AND COMPULSORY BUT NECISARY TO SHOW THE WORLD WE ARE NOT TOUGH,BUT EASY TO BLOW UP!
    THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING TOUGH TO OUR ENEMYS. AMD PROTECTING OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND THIER FUTURE.
    OBAMA IS WRONG!

  • Posted By: crazybearr @ 05/04/2009 6:37:26 PM

    After readig the comments it occurs to me that the USA Is still polarized. ther has not been any smoothing of the devision between the left and right, in fact it seems even worse.
    IMO water boarding is torture yet not cruel and unussual punishment, so perfectly reasonable to apply . This classification of torture is based on definition #2 of torture. That is :2 causes great discomfoprt or anxiety. Any one that uses torture as defined by definition #1: the action or practice of causeing severe pain... Is cruel and unussual punishment. For Me to condemn the use of enhanced interogation techniques (torture) I would need to know all of the intelligence gathered by it's use. Yet since this information would possibly be detrimentale if given to are enemies--- I can remain agnostic about its use--- and not demend all that information be presented at this time.
    Furthermore, neither Bush nor Chenny set up a crash course on waterboarding when Bush was president. the procedure was taught and practiced for a long time prior. Believing tyhat only Bush could set up and instigate such a widely used procedure is ludicrous. If so he was a truly remarkable person.

  • Posted By: pdennany @ 05/04/2009 6:05:17 PM

    The very fact that tortue was used supports the fact that the "War on Terror" from the beginning was the scam that many of us believed fom the very beginning. Torture is a routine tool used by rogue governments to force sellected detainees to confess to crimes that they had no part, and often te rogue government leaders themselves directed. There is very much evidence for example that the events of 9011 could not have possibly been the work or the alQaeda, and that elements of the US government was iinvolved in that high treason and massmurder themselves/.

  • Posted By: gary goldbladt @ 05/04/2009 5:27:20 PM

    In the United States i grew up in, torture was treason. It was done only by Anal Retentive Sadistic Nazi types (Cheney). There were often accompanied by a dim witted side kick (W).
    Guess what. If we ever have an attorny general who decides not to break his oath of office, and upholds the law, it will be again. Will A.G. Holder rise to the occasion? Time will tell.

  • Posted By: usaism @ 05/04/2009 4:00:04 PM

    Holierthanthou, you are truly a spun unit. A man without a country. You claim to be a conservative but not a Republican. You say that you didn't vote for bush but would now. You obviously hate our presidents & the majority of Americans. How wishy washy you are. Take a chance, pick a side, jump off that fence that you probably call a railing. Your twisted logic & facts seem to keep you excited but it's time to face the facts. You are in a minority of the minority getting smaller by the day. You guys preach smaller government, thanks for making it happen.

  • Posted By: usaism @ 05/04/2009 3:39:55 PM

    Holierthanthou, you are truly a spun unit. You claim to not be a Repubublican but a conservative & say you didn't vote for the bush brigade but now you would? You obviously hate our presidents & the majority of America. How wishy washy you are. You take no side & have no party. You probably call that fence you sit on a railing. Your twisted logic & facts seem to really excite you but it's time to face reality. You are in the minority of the minority.
    BTW, how's that conservative group thing working out for you?

  • Posted By: SZAli @ 05/04/2009 12:56:46 PM

    Mr. HolyRoller -

    U are a uneducated. U are boring. U need a life outside the bubble u live in. Just a reminder--the world is not in Black and White. So please quit pestering.

    Torture is wrong, doesn't matter what the results. To act in revenge or fear is to forget all your religion teaches you.

    Please understand that there are people out there who disagree with you. Doesn't mean they are right or wrong anymore than you are.

  • Posted By: Aldous21 @ 05/03/2009 9:10:14 PM

    HolyRoller is the typical GOP Supporter. I pray to God he remains the face of the party.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 9:28:16 PM

      Typical obamamohammed...Talking about something they no nothing about...I'm not a Republican...I am a conservative...The GOP acted like drunken sailors for 8 yrs...Obama is their reward...BUT...PreaBo-Zo has done more to energize the conservative population in America, than anyone since Reagan...Thank You Barry....btw...I never voted for GW, but he is far superior to Barry Soetoro on all accounts....

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: wildechild66 @ 05/03/2009 4:15:30 PM

    Oh, dear, someone's let HolyRoller near a keyboard again. First of all, the torture question isn't about efficacy; it's about ethics. Torture is unethical and immoral; the fact that it doesn't work (as explained by the FBI and other law-enforcement agencies) only reinforces the point. Secondly, Barack Obama is not a Muslim. Thirdly, people have been committing atrocities in the name of religion forever, and that includes Christians as surely as it does any other religious group.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 4:30:07 PM

      Is PrezBo-Zo a muslim??? Sure appears he has their interests above the U.S. His first interview? Al-Jazerra...Sends a video love letter to the mullahs in Iran, for some "holiday", I think it was Rama-lama-dingdong day.....Wants to release terror suspects, IN THE U.S.....BOWS as a servant to HIS King....now puts mohammeds interrogation tactics above U.S. security...He is treading on very thin ice...WHEN we are attacked...y'all will not be able to say...Bush...Bush...Bush...He will be held accountable.

      NOBAMA!!!

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