Let's not bring Hannity insanity into a factual conversation about either intelligence or patriotism. Torture is to get right down into the gutter with those you profess to be surerior to. That anyone from the right can defend the actions of a Bush/Cheaney administration official concerning the CIA after outing Phlame and costing the lives of SEVERAL dozen sources while we are at war is TREASON by way of black letter law. The only question is weather Obama has the stones to try, convict, and do the Rosenberg on those guilty of actions against the United States of America.
As for the talking morons of Murdoch radio, who is ignorant enough to listen to them anyway or to support their sponsors. Even Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose had quality music to offset thier propaganda message and that is not the province of todays Laura Ingram or Ann Coulter. They just spout one fairy story after another to the morons who have no idea in the world what really goes on in the real world. Having spent my active life in the service of the country in the alphabet soup intelligence community I am apalled we have not removed these infections from our midst way before now.
Fresh Questions About the CIA’s Interrogation Tapes
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Posted By: anOPINIONATEDsob @ 05/03/2009 3:37:52 PM
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 4:00:19 PM
The American public deserves to see the RESULTS of these interrogations...If PrezBo-Zo thinks he can cherry-pick, play kiss-kiss with mohammeds, bow down to his King.... and get Americans killed...all the while destroying our capital markets...well it is gonna be a disaster for him...His unfavorables are already at near records for 100 days...if he goes ahead with his plans...his Presidency will be considered failed before his first year is up...He is a dunce, though...
NOBAMA!!!
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Posted By: Omaar @ 05/03/2009 3:36:23 PM
Jeb Bush, GOP: Time to leave Reagan behind - Washington Times
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/03/go...
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Saturday that it's time for the Republican Party to give up its "nostalgia" for the heyday of the Reagan era and look forward, even if it means stealing the winning strategy deployed by Democrats in the 2008 election.
"You can't beat something with nothing, and the other side has something. I don't like it, but they have it, and we have to be respectful and mindful of that," Mr. Bush said.
The former president's brother, often mentioned as a potential candidate in 2012, said President Obama's message of hope and change during the 2008 campaign clearly resonated with Americans.
"So our ideas need to be forward looking and relevant. I felt like there was a lot of nostalgia and the good old days in the [Republican] messaging. I mean, it's great, but it doesn't draw people toward your cause," Mr. Bush said.
"From the conservative side, it's time for us to listen first, to learn a little bit, to upgrade our message a little bit, to not be nostalgic about the past because, you know, things do ebb and flow."
The Florida governor joined former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and House Republican Whip Eric Cantor on Saturday at a small pizza parlor in Arlington for the inaugural event of the National Council for a New America (NCNA).
Mr. Cantor said meeting with ordinary folks is the key way "to begin a conversation with the American people" and explain Republican principles to anyone who will listen.
Mr. Romney, a failed 2008 Republican presidential candidate, said his party has got to do a better job of listening. "Let's not underestimate the people of America; let's make sure and listen to the people of America ... listen to what they're feeling and get their ideas," he said.
The NCNA - with a "national panel of experts" made up of Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Mr. Bush and Mr. Romney - says the goal of the listening tour is not to recast the party.
"This is not about messaging, this is not about branding," Mr. Cantor told The Washington Times. "This is about trying to foster some discussion, because what's going on in Washington right now is not reflective of the mainstream of this country.
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Posted By: Omaar @ 05/03/2009 3:35:55 PM
There's No questions about it....
Bush & Cheney are in fact Butcher's, had they been leaders of another Country...
The USA, NATO and the UN would have them both on Trial for [War Crimes]
Water Boarding is nowhere Close to the Tip of the Ice Berg....
Men have been Killed,
Men have been Permanently Injured.
Ruptured Organs, Broken Bones....
Skulls Fractured.
These men have Bitten By Viciously, by Trained Government Attack Dogs...
There's Far MORE Terrible Acts done under the Bush-Cheney Administration and Condoleeza Rice has her Finger Prints on these [Heinous Acts] too...
Al though Rice is Trying to Omit her [Participation]
An I really Like [Condoleeza Rice]
She in my Opinion was the Most Qualified & Best Future Republican Presidential Candidate, Until this came out !!
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Posted By: KristinaBrooker @ 05/03/2009 3:04:46 PM
The Age of McCarthyism by: Ellen Schrecker
"In 1946 motivated by his own obsession with the Red menace as well
as the need to find a major postwar mission for the FBI, Hoover
ordered the bureau to mount an intensive public relations campaign
to alert the American people to the internal threat of communism."
The quote makes light of another mission of the FBI the threat of
communism, it also points out that the FBI made use of an enemy
to the American people for funding. Perhaps partially the threat
of internet users is again simply a prefered enemy to the FBI for
employment tasks.
Communism is simply that one should realize that one is oppressed
and that one must produce out of the oppression.
Also the computer is able to optimize directions and statistics in
the economy.
The FBI will run of of food and water, making use of opposing these
therotical ideas as a task.
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Posted By: KristinaBrooker @ 05/03/2009 3:01:04 PM
Hey I control the interest rate. I did put the oil to $147, then $40,
not $200 -it was a choice I made.
Kristina Brooker (126 395 086)
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Posted By: Seiun @ 05/03/2009 2:57:23 PM
The people who authorized torture and those who are now defending it are cowards--pure and simple. They're so afraid of Al Qaeda that they've lost their marbles and are now willing to do anything--including abandoning American principles and the rule of the law--in order to gain a false sense of security. These are precisely the kind of people the terrorists were counting on when they attacked us on 9/11. Because the goal of terrorism is to use fear to cause people to change their behavior. And some Americans are willing to give in to the terrorists and let them turn America into something evil. I'm not. Not ever. And especially not when someone threatens me.
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Posted By: gonzo510 @ 05/03/2009 12:05:37 PM
This country needs all the details of what went on to see how power was abused and as a lesson for the future. Prosecution should not be out of the question until all the rocks have been uncovered. Too much evidence has been destroyed or twisted to let this pass without scrutiny.
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 2:25:14 PM
Kinda like the Birth Certificate, College Enrollment Apps, and Passport info from Barry's past need scrutiny...The Feds main witness in the passport investigation, was well let's just say...was ELIMINATED a couple of weeks ago...Body counts are climbing....IDoes PrezBo-Zo have a "secret assassination squad" protecting him??? This need a "truth commision"...we don't need a mass-murderer for POTUS....before we know it...he might be air-raiding villages and killing women and children in Pakistan...Oh Yeah...he already is.....
NOBAMA!!!
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Posted By: useyourbrain2 @ 05/02/2009 10:48:39 PM
What about the stories of the rape of children at Abu Ghraib by our soldiers and guards. Supposedly they were video or audio taped and people have seen them. This was "news" a few years ago but why wasn't it NEWS? And why isn't it now? The raping of boys in front of their imprisoned fathers is something the US does now? Just how depraved, immoral and sick were Bush & Co? Will we ever know? We have to get it all out and make sure it's never done again. If we don't, some Bush/Cheney in the future will go steps further into depravity.
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 1:59:38 PM
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 2:15:26 PM
Getting info from the Daily Kooks and MoveOn.commie.....well...since we are investigating...There is an ASSASSINATION in Chicago in Dec. '07 that needs investigating...Donald Young, the openly gay choir director of Trinity...Barry's friend...and supposedly from good sources...his Lover and Drug Dealer....was killed in his home....These same sources say his contact with another Barry liaison, Larry Sinclair got Mr. Young a cap-in-the-head. A book by Sinclair revealing ALL THE DETAILS, is due for publication soon...I think PrezBo-Zo needs to be brought in for questioning...No one is above the law...RIGHT???
NOBAMA!!!
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Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/03/2009 1:55:32 PM
Barry has opened a can of worms...that is going to EAT HOLES in his presidency...He is going to get Americans killed...and the public WILL hold him accountable...It is looking more and more that the "muslim" tag associated with him, during the primaries had merit....This is going to get real ugly...real fast. If ONE incident can be prevented by using waterboarding..and it is not used, and Americans die...well....I will say this for MILLIONS and MILLIONS of fellow genuine Americans....
GIVE ME THE BUCKET....
Y'all pansy ass libtard sissies, your burqa's are cutting off the blood to your brain.....well...when we are hit, and we will be....lets just hope y'all are part of ground zero...the ZERO part already fits.
NOBAMA!!!
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