The Path of a Pandemic

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  • Posted By: rzima @ 05/05/2009 6:23:05 PM

    Seems a well researched and good article, but conclusion too dramatic and narrow-minded. Almost tabloid-like. Or maybe the writer is afraid to put her real (even more dramatic) thoughts on paper? "strange ecology we have created to feed meat to our massive human population". Well, what is so strange about economy? What is so strange about people wanting to eat traditional food? More people, simply need more food. If we are into "strange" - how strange is public (and non-public) health system. Is it natural or strange, that this health system allows unhealthy peple to live in health and breed making the human population size out of any reasonable propotion to the rest of the species in the world? Is it strange or natural, that the population as a whole is becoming more prone to be affected by diseases. Call it strange, call it natural, caill inevitable, call it whatever you like. Choice of words is yours, but do not oversimplify the problem.

    • Posted By: belinda7 @ 05/06/2009 12:45:06 AM

      "What is so strange about people wanting to eat traditional food? More people, simply need more food." but we forget the fact that meat is NOT the majority part of our traditional food. Poeple used to eat more vegetables than animals in the past. Do we Have large farms packed with pigs n chickens in the past? NO. we have a few pigs and chickens RUNNING around in the farm... not squashed in cages.. the population is being more prone to diseases cause we as humans let them do so, but what this writer says, changing the ecology. And for what? To suit our demand for meat.

  • Posted By: Ladyalice @ 05/05/2009 5:12:45 PM

    Excellent Article. Should be read by everyone as it clearly demonstrates how this flu could grow and grow, over a long period of time, and eventually cause mayhem.

  • Posted By: BernadetteNY @ 05/05/2009 8:49:10 AM

    Thank you, THANK YOU for a fact-based, scientific and thoroughly researched article on this important topic. The rush to be "first with the latest updates" and the deluge of fear-based commentary by the uninformed both on TV and the web has not only been less than helpful, it's dangerous. I realize that we are moving into a new age of instant communication, but the downside is that rumors and misinformation spread like wildfire, and make it very difficult to get to the real facts about any situation. Your article pointed out many misconceptions that have been rampant in the initial reports about this influenza outbreak (such as the the little boy in Mexico being Patient Zero, and the fact that H1N1 was actually first seen as early as 2005). In this age of instant communication, we need to be sure we are getting the real facts about a situation, not hearing (and spreading) needless panic and potentially harmful misinformation.

    After reading your article, I am far more concerned about the state of the meat industry and the cooperation of the world's governments in fighting these virus outbreaks than I am about this particular outbreak of influenza.

  • Posted By: Brande*B @ 05/05/2009 3:27:25 AM

    oops...I guess that only needed to be sent once.

  • Posted By: Brande*B @ 05/05/2009 3:09:42 AM

    I'm glad I found this article because everywhere else I looked, there where no answers, nothing to go on exept to keep away from those who are coughing and sneezing. It's allergy season. Lots of people are sneezing, coughing, and have stuffy noses. I can't very well stay away from my sick son either. I also have an immunosuprest daughter to look after. Just like a cold, if you're going to get it, you're going to get it. Then you get the illness dealt with. You can't lock yourself in and away from the world. Eventually, you have to exept that illnesses are out there, and you aren't going to get away from them. You can however maintain a healthy lifestyle, and live your life without constantly wondering whether or not this is the next plaugue.

  • Posted By: Brande*B @ 05/05/2009 3:06:58 AM

    I'm glad I found this article because everywhere else I looked, there where no answers, nothing to go on exept to keep away from those who are coughing and sneezing. It's allergy season. Lots of people are sneezing, coughing, and have stuffy noses. I can't very well stay away from my sick son either. I also have an immunosuprest daughter to look after. Just like a cold, if you're going to get it, you're going to get it. Then you get the illness dealt with. You can't lock yourself in and away from the world. Eventually, you have to exept that illnesses are out there, and you aren't going to get away from them. You can however maintain a healthy lifestyle, and live your life without constantly wondering whether or not this is the next plaugue.

  • Posted By: birch23 @ 05/03/2009 12:07:28 AM

    Well, this article was slightly better done than most, but still has some problems, Laurie. Since I am in fact a veterinary student, let me clarify a few things.

    First, this H1N1 is not a triple reassortment flu. The media is just hung up on that, because it is something to be concerned about. But sequencing of this particular virus' genome has shown that it contains only genes for swine influenza, not human or avian genes. Also, triple reassortment refers only to viral genes, not bird or human genes. Reassortment occurs when a cell becomes infected with two different forms of the same virus, in this case influenza. When the virus is being manufactured in the cell, the virus picks up genes from the other virus. So if an animal is simultaneously infected with avian and human influenza (or any other kind of influenza), there is a chance that progeny virions will contain genes from the other virus. Hope I didn't lose you there.

    Second, the "industrial hog farm" outside La Gloria Mexico, has tested its herd and the pigs do not have the virus. It came from somewhere else, but no one knows where for sure yet.

    Finally, getting rid of large scale farms would actually result in more disease. Swine raised outdoors pick up a lot more disease than you are even aware of and would actually be a bigger public health concern. If you are concerned about pigs getting avian influenza, don't put them outside and increase their exposure to birds. That's why you see most avian influenza outbreaks in swine in southeast asia - there pigs are all outside and are usually in close contact with birds, namely ducks. Also, pigs in confinement are generally a lot healthier than you and me - and there is actually a greater chance of a worker making the pigs sick than the worker getting sick from the pigs. These facilities are usually shower in shower out to protect the pigs, and take serious measures to prevent the introduction of disease. Most of these types of farms have one if not several veterinarians on staff.

    Also, most swine, even those raised on family farms, are in confinement, so to say that pigs that come from family farms are healthier makes no sense Warm and fuzzy notions about pigs frolicking in the sunshine ala Charlotte's Web are juvenile.

    It seems to me that Laurie would have done well to read a few other AASV and Iowa State University publications.

    • Posted By: stegarden @ 05/05/2009 2:10:50 AM

      I liked the article ,very informative for the layman.One comes away knowing that viruses mutate all the time and are hard to stop ,even when they are tracked.Nit picking the article is a waste of time "professor".

  • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/03/2009 8:58:18 AM

    ATTENTION :

    WHEN YOU MAY HAVE A SERIOUS RISK OF LIFE, ITS BETTER TO BE SAFE; RATHER THAN TO BE SORRY.

    RESPONSIBILITY IS BETTER THAN STUPIDITY.

    CLOSING DOWN SCHOOLS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOW MAY PREVENT OUTBREAKS AND DEATH LATER.

    PREVENTION NOW IS RIGHT THING TO DO.

    • Posted By: mac101 @ 05/03/2009 7:41:53 PM

      Except in this case, there really wasn't any serious risk of life, something the CDC and WHO sort of forgot to take into consideration.

      • Posted By: stegarden @ 05/05/2009 2:01:25 AM

        why dont we just shut down the schools down permanently?.why dont we just shut down society?The flu virus is here to stay.Did you freak about the 35,000 people that die every year in this country from flu compications?
        This flu "pandemic" is good only in that it will hopefully get people to read about the flue and how it starts, because it seems we get brain dead as time goes by.

  • Posted By: openzen411 @ 05/04/2009 5:28:04 PM

    Once again I think the media as a whole has blown the N1H1 flu way out of proportion. Cautious yes...afraid no!! More people have and will die from the "common" flu virus every year. Wash hands several times a day...good practice, always has been... close down schools, fear of public places, shutting down our economy because of a flu virus...I think not.

    Yes, I think we should use caution. No I don't think Muslims or any other nation or nationality is to blame. I think common sense, deep breaths and a little less reliance on the media are in order. Unfortunately, the media has deteriorated over the past eight years right along with our economy and world reputation.

  • Posted By: jltbro @ 05/04/2009 4:06:38 PM

    The BBC says Egypt did carry out mass culls of birds in 2006 when bird flu killed people there. Is newsweek just pandering to the "bash muslims" philosophy of journalism ,rather than actually finding out th facts. Very poor and slightly disturbing that.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8031490.stm

  • Posted By: jltbro @ 05/04/2009 4:05:08 PM

    The BBC says Egypt did carry out mass culls of birds in 2006 when bird flu killed people there. Is newsweek just pandering to the "bash muslims" philosophy of journalism ,rather than actually finding out th facts. Very poor and slightly disturbing that.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8031490.stm

  • Posted By: facebookhatr @ 05/03/2009 1:43:14 PM

    Smithfield Farms is basically one huge Swine Flu generator:
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12840743/porks_dirty_secret_the_nations_top_hog_producer_is_also_one_of_americas_worst_polluters

    • Posted By: birch23 @ 05/04/2009 2:19:19 PM

      And Rolling Stone is such a good source of accurate science information.

  • Posted By: RichardThomas @ 05/03/2009 8:12:13 PM

    Best Practice Approach
    Follow the Anti Viral Protocols and boost the immune system, and don???t impede
    the fever with NSAIDS and fever reducers that shut down viral replication in the
    body http://nutrient.me/viral/ includes the defense package compounds

    The cure is to end the factory farming; based on the Gerber theory of evolution
    swine and chickens may be producing code to eliminate their captors that have
    created imbalance and suffering conditions. http://skeptic.me/viral/

  • Posted By: Pat777 @ 05/03/2009 7:09:07 PM

    In the Spring of 1918 at Fort Riley, Kanas soldiers were burning horse manure and shortly afterwards a dust storm came and blew it everywhere. A few days later, soldiers started getting sick with the flu. Please see the link:
    http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/heath/equineflu-143.shtml
    http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/health/equineflu-143.shtml

    The following paragraphs were very interesting which indicates horses with the flu have antibodies for the human H1N1.

    Dalva Mancini and a team of researchers in Brazil have looked for evidence pointing to the transmission of influenza between horses and people. Their work revealed high levels of antibodies in horses to two human influenza A strains - H1N1 and H3N2.

    The researchers had taken fluids and mouth and nasal swabs from 46 horses at studs and racing stables in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, in Brazil.

    About 78% of the horses carried antibodies to two strains of equine flu. Remarkably, they tested positive in even higher numbers to human influenza A virus - 80.43% for H1N1 and 93.47% for H3N2. Similar numbers had antibodies to type B influenza.

  • Posted By: Pat777 @ 05/03/2009 7:02:08 PM

    In the Spring of 1918 at Fort Riley, Kanas soldiers were burning horse manure and shortly afterwards a dust storm came and blew it everywhere. A few days later, soldiers started getting sick with the flu. Please see the link:
    http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/heath/equineflu-143.shtml
    http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/health/equineflu-143.shtml

    The following paragraphs were very interesting which indicates horses with the flu have antibodies for the human H1N1.

    Dalva Mancini and a team of researchers in Brazil have looked for evidence pointing to the transmission of influenza between horses and people. Their work revealed high levels of antibodies in horses to two human influenza A strains - H1N1 and H3N2.

    The researchers had taken fluids and mouth and nasal swabs from 46 horses at studs and racing stables in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, in Brazil.

    About 78% of the horses carried antibodies to two strains of equine flu. Remarkably, they tested positive in even higher numbers to human influenza A virus - 80.43% for H1N1 and 93.47% for H3N2. Similar numbers had antibodies to type B influenza.

  • Posted By: tempnewsweeker @ 05/03/2009 11:43:13 AM

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  • Posted By: tempnewsweeker @ 05/03/2009 11:42:19 AM

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  • Posted By: wstephenjackson @ 05/03/2009 10:41:08 AM

    When contemplating such events, I am often reminded that works in literature or even, in this case, a silly movie based on a comic, are frighteningly relevant. Last year, I ran across a Movie, actually based on a comic book character, called "V for Vendetta", a cautionary science friction tale with much to say on such events. For those among us who gladly live in fear during such times, and are more than happy to trade civil liberty for 'safety', I strongly recommend that you rent and watch (it is on cable all the time) V for Vendetta. A lot of it is silly, but fun, but the underlying message will remind you exactly whom and what we should fear in such times ... and it is not .. I repeat .. not ... the Swine Flu, nor any other illness other than complacency.

  • Posted By: Farmerbob @ 05/02/2009 9:28:22 PM

    Thank you Newsweek for this article.

  • Posted By: mac101 @ 05/02/2009 8:40:21 PM

    ""Happily, Mexico has shown the world how a responsible nation can respond to a potential pandemic, by moving swiftly to shut down schools, entertainment and places of social congregation, Governments the world over would do well to pay attention to Mexico's response, and learn from it."

    Ridiculous. We cannot shut down the country or the world during every flu season. The Mexican government, the Egyptian government, and the 100+ plus American schools that have closed have not been responsible, they have been hysterical.

    The native Americans and native Hawaiians had no natural immunity to viruses like small pox and the measles, and they died by the thousands when they came in contact with contagious Europeans. One of the reasons the young and healthy of Mexico may have died is because they had little immunity, unlike Americans, who have a significant portion of the population that get flu shots every year. We haven't had deaths because we have better immunity.

    Rather than quarantining an entire country, stopping it's economy in it's tracks, a better approach would be to push for better rates of national immunizations, so populations can build immunity over time. People will get milder cases, building yet more immunity.

    Couple immunizations with a different approach to livestock practices, and the need for hysteria might disappear.

    The only difference between this flu season and dozens of others was the over-reaction of the media and the scientific community. The rates of infection were actually lower, and the overall cases were milder.

    It was all much aflu about nothing.

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