Talking the Talk

A new study looks at whether announcing your goals helps you follow through on them.

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  • Posted By: MissAnonymous @ 09/08/2009 4:41:34 AM

    I notice that I do tend to keep the goals I am most serious about meeting, to myself. But I always supposed that was because I have had so many experiences with unsupportive people and tall poppy syndrome, so if something is REALLY important to me, I won't risk letting someone else stuff it up. Whereas if I am on the borderline about it, I might open up to others and see if they sway me either way. Its also good to determine if someone is a supportive person or not. though in my case what makes the biggest difference to my success is how much I really honestly want to achieve that goal.

  • Posted By: smeade @ 06/17/2009 2:36:18 PM

    It depends on what type of goal it is. This advice may be true for some intentions, but the studies were specifically about identity-related behavioral intentions. My take-away was: don't set identity-related goals. As shown by these studies, they are often ineffective. Instead, set goals that have intrinsic reward. http://scottmeade.com/right-goals/

  • Posted By: martynstrong @ 06/02/2009 2:06:39 PM

    Is this why the following might work?:

    Capital markets are unstable. In the past there was no way to make them stable. But today we have computer power that can be used to make them stable.

    By using the greater computer power of today we can have a much higher turn over of capital in the capital market. This higher turnover will make the market harder to game or control and the market will no longer have the unstable run ups or declines. Who can change or control the market when say 20% of the capital is trading each day?

    So now that we have the compute power to provide for all these transactions that will smooth out the market how do we force people to turn over at a rate of 20% a day? Easy, put a cap gains tax of 0% (zero) on all gains of 7 days or less and put a cap gains tax of 90% of all gains of more than 7 days.

    The likes of Yahoo, Micosoft and/or Sun Micro Systems will give us the systems that will provide automated software agents to support turning over one's investments every 7 days (based on the specs you give the agent).

    A system like this will make the financial markets work as smoothly as the local fruit market.

  • Posted By: McLovinB @ 05/13/2009 10:48:20 PM

    I consider myself to be a successful person and I have made several resolutions in my life that involved important changes. Because I am a person who values keeping his word, declarations have been very useful for me as a motivation to do very difficult things. I have used them to stop smoking, learn languages, and to be truly excellent at my work. I would only make such a declaration if I knew I could do it, though. With the first two, I failed, and then succeeded. I guess some people ridiculed me, but every one of those people either still smokes or gave up learning the respective languages.
    Two or three times, I talked with people about plans and then lost interest in them, siimilarly to MCrichton's problem that DEEBEE mentions below. I know that deflation feeling exactly. You feel all puffed up and excited, and telling someone just pops the balloon. Telling people things that are very personal creates a lot of uncertainty, which throws water on the fires of ambition.
    I am sure the study is wonderful maybe it applies to normal people who cannot keep their word or set appropriate goals and meet them.

    • Posted By: cat_kin @ 05/18/2009 1:00:36 PM

      great! i agree

  • Posted By: cat_kin @ 05/18/2009 12:55:17 PM

    As for me, when I say, for example, ???I want to get second higher education in the area of strategic management???, my friends say me pros and cons, and I???m in some doubt about second higher education. I know my goal is not easy and time-consuming, and I think what for? I???m satisfied with my life. But at the same time I want to develop my skills. Suppose, if I kept silence, I would never decide. And one more issue, I believe when I decide for sure and look ahead with confidence, I will succed.

  • Posted By: The Procrastinating Perfectionist @ 05/13/2009 3:12:04 PM

    I find myself on both sides of this argument. Sometimes I need to say my goals out loud to someone else to get myself motivated, but other times I keep goals close to my chest so no one knows if I'm failing at them.

    http://www.theprocrastinatingperfectionist.com

    • Posted By: cat_kin @ 05/18/2009 12:53:22 PM

      Hi! And results? What type of results do you get? Do you succeed when say goals load? Regards

  • Posted By: Xavier434 @ 05/14/2009 10:43:03 AM

    I can't speak for others, but I have noticed a distinct difference in my rate of success and achievement when I clearly define my goals. I am more motivated, committed, and focused when I do that. I think it's because it provides additional support towards a sense of purpose. Regardless of whether that sense is a false one or similar to a placebo, it works for me!

    • Posted By: cat_kin @ 05/18/2009 12:25:17 PM

      Hi! I agree. The goals should be clearly identified. But what about public announcement, i.e. speak aloud your goal, make goals public? Do you make it? Regards

  • Posted By: Gwen Phil @ 05/14/2009 1:53:56 PM

    "That is, simply stating a strategy for becoming a good lawyer made them feel like they were real lawyers, and this inflated self-image paradoxically made them less hard working. They had become legends in their own minds, and legends don't have to get down and dirty."

    Every bad, short-sighted, ill-considered, insuffiencently understood decision stems from elevating talking about doing in lieu of properly preparing for "doing" and then "doing" things well. Welcome to the board room, the conference room, the car full of teenagers.

    Gwen, Sonoma, CA

  • Posted By: Jacob Freeze @ 05/14/2009 1:51:05 PM

    Does anybody actually believe that these badly designed experiments demonstrated anything? For example, students who declined to waste time on a meaningless exercise for the experimenters were supposed to be "quitters" in their legal careers, but the same data supports the conclusion that they were sufficiently focused on real legal work to blow off the experimenters' silly games and get back to the real world.

  • Posted By: Gwen Phil @ 05/14/2009 1:15:49 PM

    "That is, simply stating a strategy for becoming a good lawyer made them feel like they were real lawyers, and this inflated self-image paradoxically made them less hard working. They had become legends in their own minds, and legends don't have to get down and dirty."

    Thus every easy, insufficiently understood, poorly considered, short-term focussed decision by those in corporate and other board rooms.

    Thus every boring conversation over cocktails and dinner.

    Gwen, Sonoma

  • Posted By: Djor10 @ 05/14/2009 12:05:27 PM

    One point this study did not address is whether an emotional bond with the those who the goals were announced plays a role in the level of motivation to work hard and achieve the goal. Merely announcing a goal to someone who may be indifferent to your personal success may not be a motivational factor at all. Those who were in the group that did not announce their goal publically were left to rely on their own personal drive to achieve it. We obviously have a vested interest in our own personal success. The results of a similar study that includes close family and friends of those particiapting in the study would be interesting for comparison.

  • Posted By: Djor10 @ 05/14/2009 11:57:39 AM

    One thing this study did not do is allow the participants to share their goals with someone with whom they shared an emotional connection, such as a family member or close friend. Measuring the level of motivation to achieve their goal under the support of those loved ones would be interesting data to contrast this study against. It seems possible that merely making your goal public knowledge is not enough of a motivational factor to produce "down and dirty" work toward an announced goal. It would be interesting to see the results of a study that included this variable for comparison.

  • Posted By: Quest4us @ 05/13/2009 3:30:40 PM

    Declaring one's intentions to the public can be risky, you're open to ridicule and that kills the dreams of many people. There is a strategy that your testing didn't mention. That is, sharing yourt intention with a few, well chosen people, people with high aspirations like yourself, people who relate to the value of a master mind group.

    A master mind group is 3 or more people sharing their goals, dreams and aspirations for the purpose of strengthening each other, that is, a group can provide greater value than the individuals fending for themselves.

    • Posted By: bigfoot87 @ 05/14/2009 9:55:58 AM

      I think there's something to be said for the master mind idea. There are some websites out there that let people communicate about shared goals. thecircle.org is a new one that i like. I like the idea of declaring your goal in a structured support system, but not necessarily out to the entire world.

  • Posted By: dodd5665 @ 05/14/2009 9:55:09 AM

    ha reminds me of this satirical post on this topic:
    http://www.itssotrue.com/?p=4

  • Posted By: dodd5665 @ 05/14/2009 9:53:14 AM

    Ha reminds me of this article:

    http://www.itssotrue.com/?p=4

  • Posted By: emmarcee @ 05/14/2009 9:10:02 AM

    Are we thinking of the most popular name in USA at this point?

  • Posted By: seti2008 @ 05/14/2009 12:28:33 AM

    You may also want to keep it to yourself because we live in a competitive society. There are people out there who will wish to trip you up.

  • Posted By: Betternow @ 05/13/2009 5:03:17 PM

    Despite the fact that it's a "well tested procedure", I don't have much faith in a study that correlates how complete one feels (whatever feeling complete means) with the size of picture one chooses. In the 3,000 odd days left to me before I turn 65, I have decided to make my life more meaningful (whatever that means); check back with me July 2019.

    http://3850days.com

  • Posted By: Betternow @ 05/13/2009 5:00:13 PM

    While it may be a "well tested procedure", I don't have a lot of faith in the idea that the size of the picture one chooses correlates to how complete one feels (not even sure what feeling compete is). I have committed to making my life more meaningful (whatever that means) in the 3,000 odd days left before I turn 65 - there I've said it. Check back with me come July 2019.

    http:3850days.com

  • Posted By: Quest4us @ 05/13/2009 3:31:25 PM

    Declaring one's intentions to the public can be risky, you're open to ridicule and that kills the dreams of many people. There is a strategy that your testing didn't mention. That is, sharing yourt intention with a few, well chosen people, people with high aspirations like yourself, people who relate to the value of a master mind group.

    A master mind group is 3 or more people sharing their goals, dreams and aspirations for the purpose of strengthening each other, that is, a group can provide greater value than the individuals fending for themselves.

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