A Moment for Real Reform

Now is not the time to compromise on health care.

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  • Posted By: sp.tjandra @ 07/31/2009 9:30:38 AM

    Obama White House Can Save $3.7 Trillion and Extend Lifespan 29+ Years, Predicts Revolutionary A4M Healthcare Plan

    A comprehensive program to reform and advance healthcare in the United States, The A4M Twelve-Point Actionable Healthcare Plan: A Blueprint for A Low Cost, High Yield Wellness Model of Healthcare by 2012 provides practicable "here and now" solutions to reform and advance healthcare in the US, while addressing the challenges of global aging. Implementation may save our society a projected $3.64 Trillion in healthcare costs, and extend the healthy lifespan of each of our nation's residents by up to 29 productive, vital years.

    Complete references, supporting data, and projections may be viewed at: http://www.waaam.org/twelve_points_summary.php

    Source: The American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine (A4M), Chicago, IL
    Website: www.worldhealth.net

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 05/14/2009 4:14:05 PM

    Bad press, including a major mockery of the plan by comedian Jon Stewart, led to
    President Obama abandoning his proposal to require veterans carry private health
    insurance to cover the estimated $540 million annual cost to the federal government
    of treatment for injuries to military personnel received during their tours on active duty.

    The President admitted that he was puzzled by the magnitude of the opposition to
    his proposal.
    "Look, it's an all volunteer force," Obama complained. "Nobody made these guys go to
    war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the
    costs of their choice ? It doesn't compute..."

    "I thought these were people who were proud to sacrifice for their country," Obama continued.
    "I wasn't asking for blood, just money. With the country facing the worst financial crisis in its
    history, I'd have thought that the patriotic thing to do would be to try to help reduce the nation's
    deficit. I guess I underestimated the selfishness of some of my fellow Americans."

    I guess OBAMA just doesn't get that the American people love and appreciate our military guys
    and gals who lay their lives on the line so we can lay our heads down at night in peace.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 06/20/2009 1:27:59 PM

      You put stuff like that in quotes, you'd better have a source for it!

    • Posted By: xeyeldinTX @ 05/16/2009 11:13:53 AM

      Nothing is more annoying than people who don't do simple research on emails sent to them by friends. Please be responsible and check your facts! http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_accuse_veterans_of_selfishness_and.html

  • Posted By: freecitizen @ 06/20/2009 12:08:00 PM

    If you want to get a real handle on the laughable nature of Obama's "plan" listen to White House chief economic advisor Christina Romer's sing song presentation before the Commonwealth club of San Francisco. By her own description their figures are "back of the envelope calculations" projecting "freed up resources" that will magically go to finance expansion of coverage instead of padding corporate profits, reduce the deficit, fight unnecessary wars over oil and finance the usual executive bonuses on Wall Street.

    http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/09/09-06romer-audio.html

    Once you hear this I think you'll agree Obama's "bending the curve" plan is more of a fantasy designed to keep the existing corporate structure in tactand significantly worse than no plan at all.

  • Posted By: greatmidwest @ 06/20/2009 11:50:33 AM


    Americans are truly fascinated with the fact that a US President can actually lead the nation and bring about change. As President Obama stated about his opponents, "These are the interests that have benefited from a system which allowed ordinary Americans to be exploited" . The president said he would stand up for his plans, saying: "While I'm not spoiling for a fight, I'm ready for one. The most important thing we can do to put this era of irresponsibility in the past is to take responsibility now." President Obama, the American people will fight alongside you, every step of the way......

    Those in the leaderless GOP have in no uncertain terms given Americans the clear impression that they opoose major reform in the aftermath of our nation's mortgage meltdown, are willing to throw a wrench in curing our nation's "50 million uninsured" growing health crisis, and aren't even willing to offer struggling Americans a $4500 tax rebate if they buy a new, more fuel efficient vehicle.

    What's the GOP's new platform, "No home, no health, no jobs, no car" ??? God Bless America

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  • Posted By: Galasso @ 06/19/2009 7:40:47 PM

    Alter's article leads one to believe the current adminstration has already cobbled up a workable plan for national health care. Before we rush headlong into something this expensive and something that will grow exponentially more expensive over time, it needs to have some more study, honest debate for a reality check, and more modeling as to just how expensive and do-able this plan is. When Alter says now is the time, he is obviously referring to a Dem majority in Congress and the President's (dropping) popularity. No one has said who will be treated in such a Utopic health care program. Does it include non-citizens, anyone who shows up at the hospital? This concept is not only a fantasy, it is reckless. Obama also recently said he would not support tort reform, which skims hundreds of millions of dollars out of the health care industry annually. The winners will be people who have never had a clue how to provide for themselves and who will likely never pay a dime of tax as well as the millions of illegals in the US and malpractice lawyers. The losers will be anyone who pays taxes, pays for health insurance, and the health care industry who will have to deal with a typical bureacratic quagmire and try to wade through a tsunami of patients and make some sense out this mess. I wish us all luck.

  • Posted By: RedSoxSimon @ 06/19/2009 4:08:57 PM

    If the Federal government is getting into the healthcare business, why not use the system created for the department of defense and create a competing system to treat people? Military bases have great facilities that treat our nation's troops. Let competition force the existing healthcare industry to rethink what it's doing, and reform itself. Why should our tax dollars go towards a system that will bankrupt itself because it cannot operate on the same level as private insurers? Let the government expand on something that it has already created that works.

    • Posted By: Galasso @ 06/19/2009 7:22:03 PM

      Military health care is not a good model because it is very bureacratic and inconsistent.. You wouldn't know this unless you have been in the military and waited for hours in a military hospital for treatment. Some are very good and some unfortunately aren't. Remember Walter Reed recently? If you get HEP C in a surgical procedure as a friend of mine recently had happen, then there is little recourse other than getting them to correct the problem. They're great most of the time, but they're not perfect - recently the VA had HIV infected blood. The MASH type forward deployed units have been getting better and better since Vietnam, but DOD stats show that the health care for military active duty and retired serv icemen and their families is one of the biggest expenses in the DOD budget.

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 06/17/2009 1:40:04 PM

    Current Issue/Financial Reform: If there ever was anything needed it is real financial reform, as has been so drastically demonstrated in every area of our economy. There can be no doubt that run away greed, gross dishonesty and irresponsible self-indulgence, tolerated and even condoned by a co-responsible government, has cost everyone significantly. To now want a watered down reform is to just ask for a repeat to occur sometime in the future. Contrary to what some say, those who have placated and patronized the offenders (their supporters) all along, enacting weak measures now would only be playing politics and accomplish little. Once strong rules, regulations and enforcements are put in place and control and adherence is observed, if seen as needed, adjustments can be made. To do it the other way around is to ask for more trouble and just to pacifying those, industry and politicians, at the base of the current problems.

  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 06/17/2009 11:45:09 AM

    To all of those that socialized health care does not work, I have two things to say.... First. No one is proposing to socialize health care , so you need to check your facts before you start trowing arround erroneous remarks. Second. Socialized health care is currently beeing used by virtualy every advanced industrialized nation in the world, and altough no system is perfect, this much is true...... America stands absolutely alone in the waste, and abuse that our PRIVATE health care system offers. This fact is recognized by the Chamber of Commerce, by the Republican Party, by the Democrats, by Industrial groups, and by every American that has had the missfortune to use the system.

    America spends twice the amount of money on health care than any one in the world, and still we have aproximately 30-40 percent of people not insured at all. Furthermore, to say that Government would limit our choices, or would demand less care from our providers is to ignore that private health care does exactly that every day, and more.

    Let me elaborate.

    If you have a job, and you loose it you loose your health care protection .... Would you if you had government health care? ..... Is that not better?

    If you have a pre-existing condition you private health provider has the right to drop you, or considerably increase your premiums . WOuld that happen with a government program ? ......... Is that not better?

    If you don't agree with the choice of doctors that your HMO is giving you you can't go against them can you? Your only choice is to change insurance companies, but in many comunities that's almost impossible, so in reality private does not equal free choices...... Will government limit your free choice more that our current private system does? NO, that the true honest answer.

    I could go on, but for all the scare tactics, missinformation, plain ignorance, and down right lies we hear , one thing stand true to all. Our current PRIVATE health care system does not work........ And for some how do they want to solve it?

    By demanding that our current private system continues. HEY GUYS !!!!!!! What part of it does not work don't you get?

    • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 06/17/2009 12:07:07 PM

      The government option health plan will be like honey to the bee. Employers, employees, Americans of every stripe will flood the gates to eet the "cheaper" government option. Then what? How will we afford this? Raise everyone taxes, of course...but it won't be enough...even by Obama's own numbers (via analysis from the CBO) then what?? Government will have to begin to control all the who, what, where, and whens of health care services. One massive HMO with political see-saw variability every four years. Yeah...that'll be fun. Never mind the issues of maintaining quality in a system that caps salaries, services, providers, you name it.
      You argue against the current free market system based on a false image of how it actually works and why there are problems. Yes, there are problems. Many. And they do need addressing. But our system is MUCH MUCH larger than Canada's or Englands....and we can't possible take on a switch to such a system and remain a superpower, or even a stable economy. The costs are way to much. But we don't need to anyway. Fixes can come in increments...by ridding ourselves of more government involvement anywhere we can.

  • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 06/17/2009 11:59:30 AM

    Alter...its hard to know even where to begin in your blindingly ignorant recounting of why we don't have a cradle-to-grave national health plan. But the one that stands out the most is your mythology that by having a government option we can control costs. Capping anything has NEVER resulted in controlling costs. Government HAS NEVER controlled costs of anything it has involved itself in...in fact, it only causes the costs to rise exponentially. Look at the military, look the post office, look at Amtrak, Medicare, Medicaid, etc....where in any of those ventures has government shown itself able to "control costs?" WHERE??? Basic economics has shown time and time again that artificial caps of anything only creates scarcity...which then creates higher costs. YES, controlling costs is the key...but having Uncle Sam try it is akin to throwing gasoline on a fire to put it out. The answers aren't all that political but are damn complicated...and lie in the allowance of greater numbers of providers, insurance players, and suppliers so that things become cheaper just be the nature of an over-flooded marketplace. Today, its all screwed up because of the massive impact of Medicare and Medicaid on the reimbursement system...and the massive amounts of regulations restricting the creation of more private insurance options.

  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 06/17/2009 5:47:01 AM

    Healthcare should be under government and not run by businessmen. Business is to make profit, lots of profit. But business has its risks andin the case of insurance which what the healthcare is all about, the risk is so huge. The main problem is this business is managed by greedy people.

    But public healthcare run the risk of everything being lackasaidical, inefficiency and shortages.

    The best is to have both private and public healthcare available to those who can and those who can't afford.

  • Posted By: TrueAmerican2010 @ 06/16/2009 10:30:05 PM

    NOBODY speaks of personal responsibility and accountability... the ONLY way to effect meaningful healthcare reform is to get people to STOP SMOKING and to LOSE WEIGHT. Smoking and obesity are the number 1 and 2 costs of healthcare. Flat out do not cover anyone who smokes..... It is their choice ... if they smoke they aren't covered for healthcare.... further do not cover people who are obese... if they want to continue stuffing their faces and not exercise why should anyone else cover their healthcare costs. Healthcare is NOT a constitutional right.... the constitution only gives us the rights to " life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". Wake up Americans ! Quit smoking , eat reasonably, and exercise! BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURSELVES.. not something the Democratic Party likes to hear. The Democratic Party is basically buying votes by promising entitlements to their voters.

    How do we finance healthcare reform? The number 1 and 2 costs of healthcare are smoking and obesity. Tax tobacco so that a pack of cigarettes cost $ 50 .. use these taxes to fund healthcare. Tax high calorie foods and drinks???. Make a regular fountain soda at your local McDonalds cost $5-$10 and a diet version only 50 cents. Use these taxes to pay for healthcare???.. The bad news is if people stop smoking and lose weight we will not generate additional taxes??? the GOOD NEWS is if people stop smoking and lose weight HEALTHCARE COSTS will GO DOWN.

  • Posted By: marley07 @ 05/15/2009 12:10:40 PM

    Socialized health care does not work. It has been proven all over the world. If you want an example, do some research on the state of Mass. If they move this way, the will also move government more and more into the day-to-day affairs fo the people it governs. When they have control, they make the rules, not you. your freedom of choice is gone. What they provide, they can also take away. We are seeing this happen everywhere. Banks, Autos, taxes, etc etc. They are removing managemetns, decding on pay, etc. all very scary stuff. If they move on socialized healthcare and they decide what is what, why can't ask questions like, will they ban playgrounds becuase playgorund equipment is dangerous and may cause healthcare expenses to rise, or will they tax or ban the food you can eat, like mccdonalds because the food is unhealthy, or sports being banned cause they are dangerous and raise expenes, or a kid riding a bike.
    What happens, besides waitng in lines and not getting anywhere close to the quality you get now, is you take the risk of keeping people from learning lessons. As a kid, you ride your bike, you fall and break your arm. You probably learned a lesson and did not do what caused you to fall again. What the government is going to ultimatley do with all their liberal agendas is enforce rules upon us that teach us nothing. all it will be is more and more taxes and les and less freedoom. I mean taxing soda?

    • Posted By: bparmet1 @ 05/16/2009 3:23:45 AM

      Funny how people are so quick to say socialized health care doesn't work without offering proof- they tell you to go look for it. The argument that government will take away your freedom is choice is completely invalid. Do we have choice now? I'd much rather have the government in control rather than a company that cares about the bottom line before patient care.

      • Posted By: Nukeboy @ 06/09/2009 1:00:59 AM

        Do you think that the government doesn't care about the bottom line ? I wonder if there are any treatments that medicare and medicade won't pay for ?

    • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 05/15/2009 2:46:16 PM

      Yep just look at Sweden, the US has wealthy Insurance companies and if we were to go Single Payer we would start to look just like those poor poor Swedes and the insurance compaies would have to survive on the other forms of insurance less health care.
      God forbid that should happen.
      But one point about "the quality you get now" if you are uninsured or underinsured and a recent poll showed 85% of Americans declined to see a doctor (some 35% had life theatening conditions); because of the cost. Now that is a great healthcare system if I have ever seen one.

      Freaking idiot.

      • Posted By: Galasso @ 05/16/2009 10:05:28 AM

        The Scandinavian countries succeed because they are by and large a homogeneous race and culture plus enjoy steady population numbers and do not have big military budgets. They have a history that they honor and preserve and they cooperate with each other. It is not possible to use a Swedish overlay to fix the health care problem in the US. We have huge metropolitan areas, with exploding multi-ethnic populations and scores of immigrants - legal and illegal - by the minute. I would love to see a Swedish survey team come to the US and spend some time in the emergency rooms on the weekends and observe the cacophony of language and hysteria from crime victims- then show us how to do the Swedish way. This is an American problem and has to be fixed the American way. It cannot be completely universal and free. Ask a Foreign Service officer what the lines look like at the Consular sections in American Embassies overseas with people asking for visas to come to the US for health care. The thinner you slice the pie - the smaller the pieces you will receive. There is a finite amount of medicines and hospital beds.

    • Posted By: Uday Salizar @ 05/15/2009 2:01:25 PM

      "Socialized health care does not work. It has been proven all over the world."

      Is whole world still doing, except for America. Why? Is whole world stupid except Rush Limbaugh fans? Is not understand.

      • Posted By: JimF @ 05/15/2009 2:33:06 PM

        Life expectancies in Europe are longer than in the U.S. and health care costs are about half what they are here, plus everyone is covered there. Certainly, European health care (and there are big differences between, say, Germany and France), are not perfect but to refuse to learn from their successes is foolish.

        As for a bureaucracy denying health care -- we have that problem today in the U.S., don't we?

  • Posted By: Fernadez @ 05/17/2009 3:25:03 PM

    GOP ARE JUST A BUNCH OF OPPORTUNIST,A POLITICKING PARTY LEADS BY freelance gynaecologist of Just DR.NO,that only interested about the "Womens Womb".

    Abortion is not a political issue and has no place in politics. President Obama belief stems from the fact that a persons choice is theirs and is protected by the constitution. It is not the government or anyone else role to dictatate anyone elses private decision.

    Catholics,right to lifers etc.,have a right to voice their opinion and help lead people to the right decision,not to pass judgement or influence legislation that would remove that right to privacy. Or worse,cloud the fundamental issues that face our nation today and in the future.

    We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts,foreign ideas,alien philosophies,Ungodly values and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people and acts cowardly..

    • Posted By: Nukeboy @ 06/09/2009 12:56:11 AM

      I am curious as to where in the Constitution abortion is protected. My copy of the Constitution does not have the word "abortion" in it. Nor can I find anywhere that suggests that anyone has a "right" to choose. I personally don't care whether or not anyone has an abortion, but I can't find any Constitutional basis for suggesting that anyone has a right to an abortion.

      Incidently, there is evidence in the nation's founding documents that suggest that the right to lifers might have a legal basis for their belief. The second sentence of the Declaration of Independence says "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". This suggests to me that the founding fathers considered the right to life to be so obvious that it didn't need to be stated in the Constitution.

  • Posted By: Nukeboy @ 06/09/2009 12:36:43 AM

    Why should people that don't use health care be forced to pay for it? I have enough goverment run groups eating away my paycheck without that albatross. I think that if you want health care, you should buy it with your own money. Personally, I'll be better off in the long run if I put those funds into paying off my house and saving for retirement. Regardless of whether or anyone agrees with me, the fact is that I'm the person who gets out of bed every morning to earn my resources, which means that I should be the one who decides how to dispose of them.

    For those that want to complain that they will have to pick up the tab if I need health care and haven't bought into the system, I can only tell you that if you don't want to pay for other people's health care, don't nationalize it.

    If you want to watch health care prices go down in a hurry, put it back into a free market system.

  • Posted By: skeetchamp @ 05/16/2009 12:21:22 PM

    what's the use in having the best healthcare in the world if only one in ten citizens can afford to use it? by the way, Cuba's healthcare system is better and cheaper than ours.

    • Posted By: Galasso @ 06/04/2009 7:26:57 PM

      I don't know why Cuba is always used as the model for health care . I had a close Latin friend who went there and had to go to a doctor for a stomach ailment. The Cuban doctor who treated him complained the whole time about how the government had stockpiled the places where the tourists could be treated and the people in some of the remote areas were doing without. A Colombian doctor who attended a medical convention in Havana told me that the economy was so bad that married women were prostituting themselves to keep food on the table. So when you praise Cuban medicine, take a look at the rest of the country and not the propaganda that the Castro regime is broadcasting to the rest of the world.

  • Posted By: wstephenjackson @ 05/23/2009 2:41:58 PM

    Jonathan,
    I am experiencing an unfortunately no unique perspective on this matter. Four weeks ago, I was laid off (replaced by H1B, I am sure) and so lost my Blue Cross. I just arrived home from spending 460.00 at the pharmacy. Only two of the drugs do not have generics, and the most expensive of the lot IS a generic. There is no point at all in reforming health care without controlling costs, as you state. Instead of bankrupting households, we will bankrupt the nations. Sorry guys, I no longer respect your right to make billions at my expense. There is no competition in the market; it is tightly controlled. Costs will spiral out of control unless they are completely regulated, and probably (and this is a big thing for me to say this) essentially nationalized. They should not blame me or you for this. They should blame themselves. They have forced this hand.

  • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 05/20/2009 3:35:50 PM

    Healthcare reform must start and end with government fixing its own debacle of Medicare and Medicaid. These two systems are by far the number one cause of why our commerical insurance system looks as it does; why hospitals charges are what they are; and why providers are so fearful of MORE government intervention. Fix what we are currently doing and much of the "sky is falling" scenarios will go away...and we will still have our private and efficient system.

    • Posted By: mac101 @ 05/20/2009 5:13:06 PM

      There is no question that we need to fix Medicare - with it's current emphasis on treating disease instead of promoting health, it is a poorly conceived, poorly administered system, where the worst of both physician and bureaucratic excesses are allowed to run unchecked.

      But if we could fix Medicare to truly be about health care, instead of disease/physician/bureaucrat care, we would finally have a model for the rest of the country.

      THEN we would have an efficient and effective system, instead of the broken disaster that is sick care in America.

  • Posted By: clane @ 05/20/2009 3:26:53 PM

    Obama cannot oblige his corporate "handlers" and help the people of this nation with any true healthcare reform. He hasn't done anything yet that hasn't been disappointing. Why should things change now?? I predict RIGHT NOW that in 4 years, Guantanamo is STILL open, we are STILL fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, we will have NO healthcare reform, and the banksters are gonna go right on screwing us with his blessing. Our government is a joke. Obama is the punchline. I am not laughing.

  • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 05/20/2009 3:26:45 PM

    Here's a stretch, Meachum...perhaps the reason that comprehensive healthcare reform fails every time is that it people recognize each and every time that it won't work. Did that ever cross your mind? Or is the liberal nirvana of Big Daddy Government and Cardle-to-Grave caretaking of every aspect of our lives just too blinding to see anything else.
    Keep enjoying the cocktail parties, John.

  • Posted By: jh35180 @ 05/19/2009 4:36:49 PM

    I realize that there are many people who work at low paying service jobs who have no heath insurance. My only concern about the federal government managing health care is that most everything that the federal government manages is a disaster. I hear that medicare will be insolvent by 2019 and that social security will be insolvent @ 2039. So why should anybody believe that a group of political hacks and beuaracraps can somehow manage our health care. What would be ideal is if we could go back to a system where health insurance would pay for an unexpected hospitalization. In the old days (30 - 40 years ago), I would go to a doctor for a routine visit and pay for the cost myself. Of course, the fees were reasonable and visiting a doctor was like going to any other business. Incidentally, when we buy auto insurance we use it cover us in case of a wreck (an emergency). We don't use car insurance to pay for oil changes, tire rotations, etc. Why can't medical insurance be more like other insurance coverage? Or should we expect the government to cover our home, life, and auto insurance?

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