Why Bow to China?

Many world leaders seem ready to cede Asian supremacy to Beijing— but China may not be ready for the role.

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  • Posted By: Lawrence5151 @ 07/27/2009 8:46:57 PM

    Everybody can fantasize that China will rise to the world power in economy and manufacturing, and I am not going to refute such an argument because that has been done over and over in the past. The result of that argument has been the word, "Chinese Blow Job" for over a century. One extra reason is that you have to remember that it's Americans, Japanese and European who brought capital investment, factories, materials and people into China to create the Chinese Frankenstein.

  • Posted By: Huyu @ 07/21/2009 10:58:13 PM

    The world should know that other than praises for our fellow men in other countries such as India, we chinese have nothing to say about other inhabitants of our shared planet. We would always find faults with ourselves for only then we can strive to improve, even if it proves to be too difficult. Certainly sticking our nose into other people's knickers is not one of our habits.

    Nice knickers indeed. I have in possession 1,000 different styles here to satisfy your most basic and exciting carnal needs. Drop a call, and we can do business, just like Lady Baroness T. said.

    We have so many our own problems, if you know them yourself, your mind probably will explode. The recent riot in Urumpqi is just a handy example. Of course there is racism in China, it is only just beginning to be exposed because before we had these modest levels of prosperity, people stayed mostly in their own villages, districts, and well-holes. Now with people traveling more widely, everyone has to adjust to new realities, and hell can break open with little brawls as sometimes my spit flies off to your fragranced face and yours on mine. Because of our retardedly developed venting machines such as democracy and public inquiries, and dwarf parliaments, we usually get off by breaking your nose, or sometimes chopping a few heads off especially for some of our violent fellows and tradition seeking long-knife carriers, I sometimes wonder how the Messers like Mr. Hu and Wen can ever sleep; the jobs have to be a life expectancy killer bordering on self-assisted suicide, and so little pay, and not even a mistress or two.

    If you see any Young & Restless (FengQing) like our proverbial Mr. Qingyou, just please please please, ignore him. How does he know that no one ever falls off the train in China while speed at 200 miles per hour, and how would he know may be some people prefer to sit on the roof of the train for a more splendid view, and indeed superior air to breathe in the scorching sun at a more leisurely pace.

    While their patriotism is admirable, it is not what most of us think in China. There really is nothing in the world that we want other than to get the next Bottle of White Wine (read expensive), my wife's next Gucci bag (fake actually), any my kids next lessons (rote learned anyways), the next car, the next house, or the next mistress (shhiii..., don't tell my wife, my last one had really those huge ... you-know-what, for a chinese lady anyway). To claim that China will lead this or that really is just a little bit over the top; that one really got my plum in my mouth wriggling. For such mundane matters, we prefer to delegate to Uncle Sam. Nice Uncle indeed, who spend the money, resources, and man-power to trouble shoot for all us in the world. It is a good bargain, we are already getting used to it.

  • Posted By: BBC1 @ 05/31/2009 12:27:54 AM

    I stopped reading the article when it stated Japan has an economy 10 times of China. The reality is China is set to overtake Japan this year as the world's second biggest economy. Perhaps the author meant Japan has a GDP per capita 10 times that of China. If the author can't get his facts right, how credible can he be?

  • Posted By: biztru @ 05/29/2009 6:11:48 AM

    Don't think China has the intention of controlling the world although she may dance to the tine of some justified warranted attention. What the Chinese do really want is peaceful co-existence. But this doesn't mean China will leave herself unguarded with her past bad experience with both the West and the Japanese. Instead of helping, they bullied her. China will want first and foremost equality and respect for her people. There is still discrimination although much has improved over the last two decades.

    Next as one reader had indicated what is rightfully China's land, sea and air space.

    The Chinese generally bears no hatred towards the Japanese although her ego was really dented by the Japanese in WWII. But Chinese anger should recede over after one or two more generations. With US, as long as the US doesn't bully China or keep telling her what to do, they will become friends.

    Europe whether in ancient times or present times still does not belong to any one single country. Germany is influential, so is France and England in their respective right. So that's what Asia will be like too - China, Japan, India, Asean and the Arab League.

    Why should China aim to be the number one in Asia? Such stature will deprive China of more friends. Why should China worry about the rise of India or resurrection of Japan at all? Will the UN condone an invasion by India or Japan into China, assuming that China becomes weak or will the US just sit still, watch and laugh? The UN shouldn't and the US shouldn't too if these two entities are true in standing up for righteuosness. Even if India and Japan don't make it to the top by sheer bad luck, there will be other nations that can become better and stronger than China and such a country need not come from Asia. Besides it is better for China's trade if Japan, Korea and the South East Asians like Indonesia become wealthy. So why should China worry?

    On being competitive. What is wrong to compete in every field? If US can develop the most sophisticated vehicle, why not China? China won't know until she tries. What is wrong being competitive? Does it mean that while the West has maturity to deal with dangerous items, the East doesn't have the same maturity? Everyone has been harping on China to open up. Well she is doing it slowly as she has to prepare herself for competition. She is still learning. But if one looks at articles around the world, many had questioned why should China do this, why should China do that? Anyone asked the same questions with the US? Why the need for 11 aircraft carriers? Who does she want to attack or defend against? EU is not going to attack neither will China, Japan, Russia or India attack. The Chinese knows its costly (not just in financial terms) to go to war.

    So why should the Chinese worry?

  • Posted By: bigben_usa @ 05/28/2009 3:31:38 AM

    The theory that East Asia will become like Europe in the 17th to 19th century (balance of power) is outdated and increasingly being dismissed. For that to happen, China will have to breakup since under the current structure, the rest of East Asia is not large enough. Singapore???s elder statesman Lee Kuan Yew have noted that even if we combine the rest of East Asia from Japan to Indonesia, it is inherently just half of China, making it impossible to sustain any balance against China. In fact, the only time East Asia has seen 17th to 19th century Europe like geopolitical environment was during China???s Warring States period, Three Kingdoms and the political division during Song/Jin/Liao/Yuan era. David Kang has done some thoughtful studies in the geopolitical makeup of the region and reflects why other East Asian countries, including Japan, don???t seriously try to counter China as it is something that is difficult to sustain given the size of China???s economy and therefore resources available is expected to continue to widen in China???s favor. Countries in East Asia will accommodate China but continue to hedge as the US is still the most powerful country in the region/world.

    While a unified China is inherently or naturally the most power state in the region, the article is right that it is not ready and still a long ways from solely taking on such responsibility. That time will come, but could be decades away. In the meantime, it is likely that China will increasingly be first among equals in the region.

  • Posted By: bigben_usa @ 05/28/2009 3:30:57 AM

    The theory that East Asia will become like Europe in the 17th to 19th century (balance of power) is outdated and increasingly being dismissed. For that to happen, China will have to breakup since under the current structure, the rest of East Asia is not large enough. Singapore???s elder statesman Lee Kuan Yew have noted that even if we combine the rest of East Asia from Japan to Indonesia, it is inherently just half of China, making it impossible to sustain any balance against China. In fact, the only time East Asia has seen 17th to 19th century Europe like geopolitical environment was during China???s Warring States period, Three Kingdoms and the political division during Song/Jin/Liao/Yuan era. David Kang has done some thoughtful studies in the geopolitical makeup of the region and reflects why other East Asian countries, including Japan, don???t seriously try to counter China as it is something that is difficult to sustain given the size of China???s economy and therefore resources available is expected to continue to widen in China???s favor. Countries in East Asia will accommodate China but continue to hedge as the US is still the most powerful country in the region/world.

    While a unified China is inherently or naturally the most power state in the region, the article is right that it is not ready and still a long ways from solely taking on such responsibility. That time will come, but could be decades away. In the meantime, it is likely that China will increasingly be first among equals in the region.

  • Posted By: bigben_usa @ 05/28/2009 3:29:29 AM

    Measure in terms of PPP, China???s economy has long been ahead of Japan. In mkt exchange rate, China expected to surpass Japan by 2010 (however, this year is highly possible given the contraction of Japan???s GDP). In fact, if it wasn???t for the strength of the yen in 2008, China???s GDP was basically similar to that of Japan at the end of 2008 (they???re measure in US$). Also, most economists believe the actual size of China???s economy is understated by 25-50% due to the inability to capture domestic consumption in the interior, especially the service sector. Thus, economists sometimes point out that China could already be the 2nd largest economy after the US. Most of all, it is the contribution to world GDP growth that is more important than just the absolute size of GDP. In this crucial measure, China has already been the world???s 2nd most important economy driver (engine) since about 2005. This why people in the investment industry no longer talk about the Japanese economy since it has already became largely ???irrelevant???. Merrill Lynch noted that the Japanese economy became irrelevant about 5 years ago while the famed investor Marc Faber describes the Japanese economy as ???meaningless???. In contrast, the focus is much more on China since it is much bigger economic driver for the global economy. To illustrate, both Japan and China now generates output of about US$4.5trn, but the former has virtually no growth while the latter is expected to grow at say conservatively 5%. In essence Japan adds nothing to the world economy while China adds about US$225bn. That is why even when China???s economy was just at US$3trn growing at about 10%, it was already a bigger factor than Japan???s US$4.5trn growing at just 2%.

  • Posted By: The_Observer @ 05/16/2009 7:31:25 PM

    It seems to be an obsession of the west or the Indians that China seems to want to take over the world or at least Asia. The Chinese wouldn't want anything of the sort as they see what the costs of trying to do so from the experiences of the former USSR and the current imperial role held by the Americans. What the Chinese want in the following descending order of importance is secured access to resources, markets for the goods they produce and lastly the settlement of a few remaining boundary disputes. On that last item China has settled most of her boundary disputes with her immediate neighbours and at times made compromises. What remains is the peaceful reunification of the Chinese Mainland with the Republic of China (Taiwan), the return of South Tibet from India, the Diaoyutai Islands from Japan (the latter grabbing those from China in the 19th Century) and the fair settlement of the dispute over the overlapping claims by several countries over the Paracel Islands in the S. China Sea. That is what China wants and not going around bossing other countries which is a waste of time .

    • Posted By: motorherz @ 05/25/2009 6:45:58 PM

      If China wanted to learn from USSR, then it didn't. It repeats the same mistake - creation of super-elites amid general powerty - at a much larger scale.

  • Posted By: lleesstteerr @ 05/19/2009 1:23:41 AM

    Newsweek is indeed wrong: Japan's GDP in 2008 is 4.8 trillion in real exchange terms, and China's is 4.2 trillion (in terms of actual purchasing power China's economy is already way greater than Japan's).

    • Posted By: motorherz @ 05/25/2009 6:39:06 PM

      Real exchange rate is useless. In theory, it is a neat concept, but in practice it gets screwed by all sorts of measurement errors.

  • Posted By: drewand @ 05/25/2009 3:32:40 PM

    The only saving grace for the Us is how much money we owe them.

  • Posted By: pastachang @ 05/24/2009 1:25:50 AM

    who is "Christian Caryl |" ? i think she/he has no history knowledge, anyone who learned history,will know that China will be the first. i am a chinese, and a history department student, i know what china is happing, and will\.......\ ,if ms/mr christian can come to china ,and touch some chinese student's heart, he will never say anything about the china and japan ,because he will know china must win,and japan will be a second class country, 5000years always,japan behind china 4970 years,if no industry revolution, this 30years that japan before china will not happen ,now,china has open the door to all over the world, japan has no chance to before china again, form the year of 2009\......, This just history ....,i am a 1980s,china will belong to us, we can make china the first ,1300000000 people ???gdp 4.3tri$,will be 1600000000,and 70tri $ 30 years later....

    • Posted By: sunsongxp @ 05/25/2009 10:10:35 AM

      How can you give your opinion without any critical thinking and logic?
      Comments lacking evidence and logic is inconvincible.

  • Posted By: mdshams00 @ 05/24/2009 12:45:24 AM

    uncle sam oil your own macine!! 11 aircraft carriers will not help you !1

  • Posted By: hisankai @ 05/23/2009 10:13:38 PM

    Christian Caryl is wrong, in the measurement of official exchange rate, Japanese GDP is only marginally lead of Chinese in year 2008, but it is widely expected by economists that Chinese would surpass Japanese in this year, which means the year 2009 due to the sizable slump of Japanese GDP caused by the global financial crisis. Unfortunately, in case of economic datas, Mr. Caryl is an outdated journalist whose knowledge is amazingly behind the current gloal economic development about at least 20 years.

  • Posted By: MagicDragon @ 05/21/2009 9:25:00 PM

    What China needs is social, not material development!

  • Posted By: redmao @ 05/21/2009 11:41:26 AM

    China is as much a developing country as was the USA in - Let's see - 1812, when she went to war again , or - - - Judge history by the terms of your history, not your recent past.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xm1XErUvXo

  • Posted By: wcreader @ 05/21/2009 1:25:22 AM

    China is still a developing country. There is no evdient, as suggested by the author, that China is asking people to bow to them. I am not sure where the auther of Newsweek get the idea? To me, China and the Chinese people are just trying hard to improve the standard of living of its' citizens, trying their best to show China is able, China is also as capable is everyone else in the world to participate in the international event. There is no need to down grade to boss up the threat of China as it did in these article.

  • Posted By: hooloo @ 05/18/2009 5:33:42 PM

    Newsweek has really gone downhill with articles like this. Any analysis/opinions must be based on facts. Japan's economy is 10 times of China's? Are we living in 1985?

  • Posted By: minhduc @ 05/18/2009 8:58:03 AM

    The ruling party of China is still the ruling party that gave aids to North Vietnam and North Korea to expand its influenc . Now the Marxism is not a good tool to rally people, the China Communist Party is using nationalism instead of communism to rally people . But their dream of expanding China influence is still the same.

  • Posted By: lws @ 05/18/2009 1:36:46 AM

    Actually, though no single Chinese leader would like to acknowledge it, most Chinese men & women on the streets would really wish that, one day when we have our days, we would like to 'teach' these nations/people a really 'nasty' & 'unforgiving' lesson for their past atrocities/misbehaviours against our ancestors/diaspora:
    Japan, Indonesia/Malaysia, British, French, American
    (Japan should be singled out to be 'tamed' like exactly what it is now towards the US so that it will forever remain no threat to China)

    Also, we would really like it that these nation states be reunited into our fold (they were our lost territories):
    Outer Mongolia, Vietnam, Korea, Russian Far East

    Australia & New Zealand should be bought out so as to be redistributed amongst the over populated nations in Asia such as China, Japan, India, Pakistan etc

  • Posted By: horsham @ 05/18/2009 1:14:04 AM

    When those half-educated reporters try to be an analyst, they often come up laughably short. Come on, Newsweek, hire some quality people!

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