Obama’s Risky Debt

The president takes another economic gamble.

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  • Posted By: johnmayer76 @ 06/08/2009 12:27:08 AM

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  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 05/20/2009 9:48:24 AM

    Dear Republicans posting comments on this blog.

    Please do understand this when commenting about Obama's bad Economic policies because of deficits.

    YOU REPUBLICANS HAVE NO, CERO, ZILCH, NADA, NONE credibility left when it comes to advice, complain, or even suggest anithing that has to do with financial responsability.

    You want to regain credibility and have the right again to complain about high deficits? FIRE ALL YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES that served for the last 8 years.

    Got it?

    • Posted By: marley07 @ 05/20/2009 12:16:39 PM

      So that makes what the current sh*tshow administration is doing ok? Do you not understand how unsustainable this spending is? Would you really rather have government get even bigger and the people of this country dependent on government?

      • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/20/2009 3:45:51 PM

        "So that makes what the current sh*tshow administration is doing ok?"

        No, but it does mean that we Republicans are part of the problem. We created problems by blindly and uncritically following Bush and spending like crazy despite being ideologically opposed to spending like crazy. We are compounding the problem now by simply saying "no" to Obama and calling him "the best politician ever" without offering good alternatives to his plans. We need to step it up and start acting like we stand for what we say we stand for. We should have never made this Republican vs. Democrat, criticizing and opposing Obama at every turn while remaining uncritical of the Republican Party. We should have stuck to our principles without prejudice and done what was right, even if it means opposing Bush or working with Obama.

        The point is: this blame game needs to stop. We all (regardless of party) contributed to this mess and we all need to work together to get out of it.

        • Posted By: MJ000777 @ 06/04/2009 8:10:17 PM

          Amen bkrummel,
          We should have been to the right of Bush and demanded more from him, but then we would be labeled as FAR RIGHT EXTREMISTs by that other party that now thinks Obama and themselves should get a free pass on spending because the predecessor was a big spender too. I am all for firing N. Pelosi, B. Frank, C. Dodd, A. Specter, and anyone else in either party who thinks it is okay to spend a lot of money without restraints.

    • Posted By: concerned liberal @ 06/04/2009 2:56:04 PM

      Clinton was the president that "modernized" banking from the safe guards put in place in the 1930's that were the gate keepers of our economy! So you see, when you and most dems who get all weepy eyed for the great economic times of the Clinton administration, all you are doing is worshiping the high end of the tsunami and not the aftermath!

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/20/2009 12:23:58 PM

      Dear Democrats and Republican-haters posting comments on this blog,

      YOU DEMOCRATS HAVE NO, CERO, ZILCH, NADA, NONE credibility either when it comes to advice, complain, or even suggest anything that has to do with financial responsibility or the economy.

      (Okay, you guys had Clinton who gave us a surplus. And he had a Republican congress. So I suppose we both HAD a little credibility.)

      You want to have credibility and have the right to complain about high deficits? Make sure YOU CUT THE BUDGET. Or FIRE ALL YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES too.

      Republicans and Democrats both suck!

  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 06/02/2009 1:53:03 PM

    Dear Mr. Samuelson.

    Would it be too much to ask if you stop writing about our current economic problems in the abstract?

    Is it in your mind "irresponsible" for Obama to let his Treasury department request the money necessary to bail out our financial system ? Is it "irresponible" in your mind for Obama to simply look the other way and risk our current recession turning into a depression by simply hoping for the market forces to self-correct ? Is it "irresponsible" for Obama to follow established word class Economists, and Nobel laureates recomendations in his Economic agenda?

    Fact is Mr. Samuelson that as much as you want to ignore it, Obama was given a lousy hand to play with from the get go. Obama as you know not only inherited trillions of Dollars in deficits, and commitments by the previous administration,, but also a program to salvage the collapse of our financial system that was absolutely necessary and like it or not costs trillions of Dollars.

    If you don't like Obama's policies because they create incredible deficits, and are justifiably nervous as to our future as a country I can understand it . But what I can not understand is why you can be intellectualy honest , and accept that the set of problems that we face don't mend for free.

    What you want is a free luch my Journalist friend. What you want is for a President to say we can re-establish our financial system to health , and get back our economic strenght with no expenditures. What you want is for our social programs to fix themselves, and our environmental mess to simply go away.

    You would make a much better journalist if you would see problems in an analytical way, instead of coloring them with personal held ideas. Every Economist in the world will tell you that the one time when deficit spending is desirable is in a recession..... We are in the big recession Mr. Samuelson, in case you forgot.

    Time will come to talk, and demand Fiscal responsability. It will be demanded from Obama, and he will have to answer for it. But now Mr. Samuelson is not the time.

    • Posted By: concerned liberal @ 06/04/2009 2:52:47 PM

      Bad policy even to an inherited bas situation is worse than bad policy applied when things are swell, a person in the highest position of RESPONSIBILITY (or lack there of)has to be even more carefull when repairing damage done by himself or others!

  • Posted By: marley07 @ 05/20/2009 12:26:12 PM

    Obama is the probably the best politician ever. Nobody has been better at figuring out how to tell people what they want to hear for them to support him. He is an amazing speaker. I will give him credit for those things.
    However and unfortunatley, it is not a good thing. He will say whatever it takes, even if he changes his story for that particular listener at that moment. He is perfect at setting double-standards. He is amazing at saying alot without actually saying anything. He has done an amzing job making slogans seem real even though thay are completely untrue. "95% of americans will get tax cuts," :the last 8 years," etc. People actually beleive this stuff like it is fact.
    He can't say 2 words without a screen to tell him what to say, he has to pick the media to ask him questions so he knows what the question will be and doesn't get caught having to answer a tough question with a pre-written answer.
    This guy knows what he is doing. He is going to do whatever it takes to push the liberal agenda, the "statist" agenda and make everyone depend on government at the expense of success

  • Posted By: sieg6529 @ 05/20/2009 11:37:57 AM

    it sure was nice when we had the GOP in charge and they responsibly managed the taxpayers money to help pay down the national debt, all while reducing government spending...wait...no, I must have dreamt that.

  • Posted By: rho1953 @ 05/20/2009 9:31:27 AM

    His chickens will come home to roost in inflation and an economy that never recovers. He will be gone in four years because the house of cards will collapse. One poster here says in one sentence that old people would rather see the money spent on the young them themselves. In the next sentence he accuses the Republicans of ignoring health care for seniors. Wow. A typical democrat, not bright enough to keep from contradicting himself in the same paragraph. The debt is unsustainable. We have already passed the point of no return, there is no way to get out of it now. The Chinese have cut up the credit card and it's just a matter of time until the whole thing implodes.

  • Posted By: tdn0024 @ 05/20/2009 8:28:14 AM

    The debt is pretty easy to solve.

    After we've reached median life expectancy, just cap the spend on health. My beloved grandmother numbed her gout with cheap Vodka. And i would hope to do the same, rather than be a burden on the tax payers.

    if you ask an old person, "do you want us to spend on keeping you alive a few more months or years, or on kid's health and education?", they'll say spend it on the kids.

    The Republicans are pretty funny. They say they are the party of responsibiity. But then, asking the government to turn off the spigot of health spending on old folks to keep the country from going broke? They call that playing God.

    But it's God who is playing God. Who causes our bodies to break down naturally, with plenty of attendant physical pain. And it's just our choice of how best to deal with that.

    We as a country have not earned the luxury to spend tens of thousands of dollars per head on ourselves in old age to buy that added time. Our aggregate producitivity isn't high enough as yet to do that in a budget.

    Playing God? What a bunch of nonsense.

  • Posted By: bighappy @ 05/20/2009 1:02:31 AM

    Obama supporter, think about it. $1.8 trillioin deficit this year, 50% of budget! And this idiot ptojects at least $1.2 trillion next year, and more and more. Where will he get this money? We know, at first he will try to rob rich (not only very rich, by the way) by increasing their taxes - and will get nothing except 1930-like depression. The rich are rich because they are smarter than average american voter and are free to move their capital or even themselves out. Then he will try to tax us all, it is inavitable - will not get much. Then he will have to print money causing 100%-200% inflation (optimistic estimation). Are you not scared yet, Obama supporters? I understand, half of you don't pay any taxes, don't have any money to lose, live on wellfare, so you think it is not your problem. Wrong. Wellfare money will evaparate, food and house prices will become unbearable, jobs will disappear, and poor would suffer the most - then you will understand how stupid you were supporting extremists.

  • Posted By: FreddieBarnes @ 05/18/2009 11:42:29 PM

    President Buckwheat and the rest of Spanky's Gang (George Soros) won't be happy until they have succeeded in turning the USA into a 3rd world country. You democrats should be so proud of your efforts to insist a complete moron now occupies the White House. Just wait until they demand we all learn the Asian languages so we can speak coherently with the people these idiots sold us out to. After all, it's justified through higher taxes and they don't care because no one in the current administration ever paid their fair share. Just remember, our ultimate defeat was brought to you by the people that will kill innocent children in the womb, but won't tolerate the execution of an aged adult that has committed murder or is hell bent on committing terrorist's acts against our fellow citizens. God save us from these fools.

    • Posted By: proud republican @ 05/19/2009 4:32:10 AM

      your comment--president buckwheat -- oh so funny! i agree with your post completely!

      • Posted By: LMarcT @ 05/19/2009 6:42:33 AM

        What a jerk. You think this was a worthy post? Really?

        Obama (not ' Buckwheat", you racist) started with a colapsing economy with a huge deficit, remember you all knowing and pure one? You would have him do nothing, right? We're still spiraling downward from your grand old party's fantastic leadership. With no banks or AIG or stimulus the spiral would have taken us well into a depression. And you would do what? Give a tax break? Balance that damn budget? Balancing the budget now would do nothing but eliminate more jobs. Balancing with the economic downturn included in the numbers would kill even more jobs. Not including new initiatives in the current budget view would either be lying (like before) or would doom any improvements some of us believe we must have in the future. The reality is that we will balance the budget when the economy is solidly recovering, which, hopefully, might be a great deal sooner than it would have been with your oh-so-wise tax cuts.

        So keep up the hate messages. Go for it. Just keep driving your party deeper into the ground. You only show your true colors and your compassion for others not exactly like you. You're just losing more votes. Most of us would rather trust Obama than to even attempt to trust a party that has failed us so miserably.

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 05/20/2009 1:00:22 AM

          If somebody name Obama Buckwheat - it does not mean that he is a racist. And if I name you, LMarcT an idiot - it does not mean that I am a racist, just telling the fact.

        • Posted By: Obey the Penguins @ 05/19/2009 8:27:31 AM

          This back and forth between the parties is what caused this whole mess. The war between the "haves and have not???s" is bigger than ever. Does it really sound that good when your own government decides to just give everything away?? Health care? Auto industry? Education? I hope you work in one of these fields so you can donate your time instead of getting paid. Open your eyes and read about the past. You talk about a balanced budget but you agree with the spending as long as you get yours. Our current governing body has done nothing except expand affirmative action to a nationwide program funded by debt we can never repay. We would like to point our fingers at one party or the other for this mess but the fact is that we caused it ourselves. We the people got complacent...we stopped paying attention because things were going so well...we forgot who was running our government...and we forgot to hold all of them accountable...Democrat and Republican alike are responsible for the condition of the country. Put the people running the country on the same programs they force us to use and things might change. Until that happens, nothing will. As far as the "Buckwheat" comment is concerned, yes...very ignorant and unnecessary which proves that the "Historic Election" of just another idiot (note: not a racist comment) was elected by ignorance and backed by arrogance and supported by the uneducated.

  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 05/19/2009 9:31:03 AM

    Dear Mr. Samuelson.

    There is no political party, or politician alive in the U.S.A. that will do anything about our deficits for the simple reason that if he/she does, their job would be immediately be lost to a mob of angry voters. There's no way an entrenched system of fat cats at all levels of government, and industry will let the necessary bills pass to start putting our house in order.

    That's the reality. Please stop blaiming Obama alone for it. Republicans, and McCain "as President" can't do any better, and you know it, and in your article you conveniently forgot to say it. By the way Mr. Samuelson stop pretending that the media is not attacking Obama's deficits because he is ... Obama. For years Bush created the largest deficits in the history of man kind, and if you are HONEST with yourself Mr. Samuelson, you'll be the first one to admit that no one in the media paid much attention either.

    Speaking of honesty for the longest time the American people have allowed their political representatives a free pass on honesty. The reality is that our deficits will be monetized, and inflation will be the tax we will pay to make our deficits more manegable again. Of course the rest of the world will go along for the ride with us... Or are we the only ones with enormous deficits Mr. Samuelson? Have you cared to check England's, and Japan's, and most third world nations?

    So as long as we are in the subject of honest reporting Mr. Samuelson , please stop politicizing a debt that belongs to all of us Americans, and not to one political party, and admit that the solution will come not from politics or politicians , but from the cruel reality of not having enough to pay for decades of living beyond our means.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 05/20/2009 12:57:26 AM

      Republicans and Democrats can be sometimes right, sometimes wrong, but idiot is always idiot.

  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 05/19/2009 9:38:30 AM

    Dear proud republican

    You party has not a darn thing to be "proud" about. Unless you are proud that you looked the other way while for 8 years your President created the largest deficits in the history of humanity, and now that Obama is in you "found" your Fiscal responsabilities again ... It's a miracle !!!!

    Unless you are "proud" that you started a war in Iraq on false pretences, and made a mess of it to top it off.

    I can go on with torture, outr standing in the world, our budget deficts inherited from you, your response to Catrina, and on, and on.....

    But let's just live it at that... And say that if you are "proud" of your record, then you most be working for Al Quaida, and be a friend of the people that hate us around the world.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 05/20/2009 12:54:17 AM

      Run 16% budget deficite is irresponsible. But run 50% - it is insanity. About Katrina - keep re-electing your idiot Democratic mair and impotent Governor - even Obama will not be able to help you.

  • Posted By: Jt74 @ 05/18/2009 8:15:50 PM

    Wow, when compairing deficits, why don't you do your job and actually compare them to what Bush was really spending? I love how extremist journalists pen jeremiads about deficit spending while ignoring Bush turning a 4 trillion dollar surplus into an additional 4 trillion in debt. let us not forget that he did this with unsustainable tax cuts that helped few and with defense spending that was both wasteful and unnecessary. If government deficit spends on public goods that will enhance and grow our economy, then over time that larger economy will pay for the increased national debt. See New Deal and Great Depression, a good starting point for public policy discussions for anyone who actually wants to be taken seriously.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/19/2009 10:34:49 PM

      "See New Deal and Great Depression, a good starting point for public policy discussions for anyone who actually wants to be taken seriously."

      Isn't the New Deal responsible for our current budget mess? Without it we would have the entitlement programs. Some of the big spending of Bush was on Medicare, not simply wasteful defense spending like you think. We have yet to have much needed entitlement reform and to figure out how to pay for the baby boomers. I think you need a better place to start your serious public policy discussion.

      But by all means just focus on complaining about the defense spending. That's a sure way to be taken seriously on public policy!

      That said, you are right that Bush got cared away with spending and that growing the economy is an important part of dealing with the debt.

  • Posted By: nightprowl @ 05/18/2009 10:46:51 PM

    Usually I go on and on because I take into account everything. But right now I am going to quote jt74 and his remark, "with defense spending that was both wasteful and unnecessary"

    As a soldier I can tell you that the defense budge does not just buy guns, ammo, and new vehicles. That is soldier paychecks as well. That is where we American's that devote our lives to your defense raw our already ridiculously low pay. I have to support my family on $1800 a month (+/-) as well as purchase all sorts of gear and uniforms. When I outgrow my uniforms I cannot always just trade them for new ones, I have to buy them. When it comes to dress uniforms, I buy them. I have to pay for everything and I never have anything to save, I don't even have money to take my son off post to enjoy his weekends that he gets to spend with his already ghost father. Defense spending is far from unnecessary. Not to mention that alot of soldiers are still working with obsolete equipment that is 10 or more years old. I went through my first tour with some gear that dated back to Vietnam and Cold War. Don't be fooled into thinking just because you hear Defense in the budget that it is all about guns and ammo.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/19/2009 10:24:01 PM

      To nightprowl: Thank you for your service to my country. I have friends in the military and a father who graduated from the Naval Academy, so I understand where you come from. While I hope that the government will cut its budget, I also expect the government to give you the funding and support that you need to do your jobs and take care of your family. It's shameful that we don't do a better job of it.

      To Jt74: I equally important to grow the economy and focus on things like R&D and grants. I am in my 20s and work in academia, so me and my friends rely on a lot of the domestic funding you talk about. But let's get real. Our country needs a good military and an soldiers in our military work hard while being unpaid. It is ridiculous to suggest that we should neglect our military and our soldiers because it doesn't grow the economy and you want more funding for things that you like rather than money going to weapons contracts. Nightprowl wasn't talking about weapons contracts anyways. He's just a guy that protects our country and wants to be able to support his family. You are being selfish and insensitive to be so uncaring of our soldiers.

      That said, if you want to discuss funding the military more smartly as to have more money for domestic spending and our soldiers' paychecks, that's a little different from what you are saying and could be an important discussion. But let's not simply cut military spending to favor domestic spending.

      To truxrule: You wanted FDR to think about what spending is or isn't Constitutionally mandated? The same FDR who used the Court Packing incident to make his New Deal constitutional? (FYI the New Deal is unconstitutional.)

      Though I think you are on to something truxrule5. The entitlement programs are going to grow the budget the most. Unfortunately we need to reform them, but no one wants to touch them. We need to reform them and should possibly get rid of them, not add new programs like Universal Health Care. But I guess that's just me.

    • Posted By: Jt74 @ 05/18/2009 11:06:20 PM

      really, cry me a river. do you know how many hundreds of billions of dollars we spend on defense every single year? Social security and medicare get payroll taxes to pay for them, for now they provide a surplus that is spent on other government programs. while the bulk of discretionary spending on non defense items has stagnated as a percentage since the Clinton era, the country spends its excess payroll taxes on defense and to subsidize tax cuts for the rich. While soldiers don't get what they need, and despite spending 700 billion plus annually on defense from 240 billion annual under clinton, the military still cannot end its endless griping on anecdotes of old training equipment and not enough ammo. Sorry but in a choice between scientific research and development, more pell grants, energy efficiency measures and other spending that actually builds an economy and defense spending that only enriches weapons contracts and gives non sustainable defense jobs, i will take pell grants, energy efficiency and R&D any day of the week and twice on sunday. Al Qaeda used boxcutters not fighter jets to attack us, unless they intend an armored invasion with tanks and air support from Canada or mexico, most of the last eight years of defense spending was a complete waste.

      • Posted By: truxrule5 @ 05/19/2009 8:55:42 PM

        Hey Jt74 the military and national security are actually mandated by the constitution because it's kind of important to have a country and security. Maybe FDR should have thought of that before creating those programs? And maybe you should actually vote against your congressional and senatorial incumbents who continue to raid those trust funds!

  • Posted By: truxrule5 @ 05/19/2009 8:48:20 PM

    2 comments:

    1) Everyone is ignoring the massive spending? Are you serious? What do you think the tea parties were about all around the country? Responsible people are noticing, Mr. Author.
    2) Your headline is wrong, it should be, "Obama gambles USA's future" you are making it seem like it's just politics! It is so much more serious than that, Mr. Author.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/19/2009 9:36:50 PM

      "What do you think the tea parties were about all around the country?"

      I haven't a clue what those tea parties were actually about. There were people complaining about the stimulus, Obama not being a natural born citizen, spending, how the country should return to Jesus, guns, taxation, how Obama is going to raise their taxes (according to his plan he won't), etc; the tea parties were a chance to protest for just about anything. Most of the protesters probably didn't even know what they were talking about. And then there were the liberal reporters that decided to argue back rather than being journalists and finding out what those tea parties were actually about. So I don't know what the tea parties were about.

      Perhaps the American citizens are noticing. Me and my friends have. But I don't think anyone in congress is noticing. Some have talked about little things like the need for entitlement reform, but no is discussing the big issue the way the author is. It would be nice if some Republicans offered some ideas for a change and took on this problem. Or better yet some Democrats or people from both parties should step up and take on this problem.

  • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/19/2009 6:18:55 PM

    If the article is right that based on CBO or other projections that the debt-to-GDP ratio could be 70% to 82% in 2019, that is something to be truly concerned about. I am glad the author raises such concerns.

    The author states "Except from crabby Republicans, these astonishing numbers have received little attention...". And that is the problem right now. No one is suggesting any fiscal conservative alternatives to Obama's proposals. You have the Democrats cheering him on, glad to finally pass there big social programs no matter the costs and the Republicans just complaining without offering any real ideas. We really need to consider serious alternatives to Obama's plans and serious ways to reduce the federal budget. And we desperately need good leadership that will challenge Obama and address concerns about the federal budget.

    Naturally many posters complain about Obama or the Republicans. The fact of the matter is the Republicans and Democrats are both to blame. Both have spent a lot while in power and then complained about spending when out of power (as well as complaining about ignoring the Constitution and misusing the military as the world police when out of power only to ignore the Constitution and misuse the military when in power). If you keep cheering on the Republicans or the Democrats and reelecting incumbent rather than firing your congressmen, you only have yourselves to blame for the economic mess and coming debt problem. But by all means, keep playing the blame game.

  • Posted By: Apolitical @ 05/19/2009 2:11:25 PM

    Mr Samuelson - The analogy for your shrill call to watch out for rising debt is just like the Republicans shouting to everyone to conserve water while the entire neigbourhood is on fire. And to extend it further, the Republicans are preventing the firemen for coming to put out the fire -- and the most ironic of all, the Republicans caused the fire.

  • Posted By: chumley41 @ 05/19/2009 4:48:04 PM

    Sorry Mr. Samuelson, but the gamble on America's future was initiated by the great "messiah" Raegan & then by Bush but they lost!

    Chip-Sarasota

  • Posted By: GaLiberal @ 05/18/2009 10:40:30 PM

    Yes, Obama's budget is risky. But times like now call for leadership and leaders take risks. Bush was not a leader because he just took blind shots. He manipulated the data to justify his actions. He was arrogant and unwiling to compromise. Bush allowed Cheney to lead him by the nose. Bush was a loser. Obama is a winnner.

    • Posted By: Pallisor @ 05/19/2009 8:54:18 AM

      Let me see... Bush just took blind shots, but Obama can take all the "risks" he wants?  Lol

       

      Look, rather than post your hate-filled opinion here, how about you a post credible link to the data Bush "manipulated?"  The rest of your post is once again just your factless, angry opinion. 

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 05/19/2009 12:30:35 AM

      You sound like somebody from Mason family. He is the leader, he takes a risk by pushing you to jump from 20-th floor (don't count he would jump with you, he is a winner, remember?), it is time for actions folks, jump!

    • Posted By: nightprowl @ 05/18/2009 10:51:11 PM

      Bush was not a leader.....but he got elected to lead. See this is what gets me, everyone hated him but he still got elected. Go figure that one out. Then youve got this "messiah" the great and powerful wizard of Oz, nObama. He can speak, he has charisna....this makes him a leader? I wouldnt follow that guy to nickle beer night at a local gentleman's club. He is not a leader, he is a talker. And he is all talk and screwed up action. Dont blame Bush, blame yourself for either not voting, voting for him, or for never paying attention to your local government that talks to reps and legislatures that go up and up and then to the government that was bipartisan during Bush and failed you. Yea Bush had a bipartisan congress....forgot that? Cause nObama has a Dem majority *60 seats to 40 seats*

  • Posted By: concerned liberal @ 05/18/2009 4:52:13 PM

    You cannot bring about prosperity by dicouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cnnot further the brotherhood of man by encouraging class hatred. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's inititive and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.

    • Posted By: news or not @ 05/19/2009 4:08:06 AM

      concerned liberal...very good points....and every one is true...are you sure that you are a liberal??? The dems seemingly hate every one of those points. That has become the basis of their party. Very progressive isnt it?? We must be experiencing great progress now that we have doubled up on the give-a-way spending,,,right???

    • Posted By: concerned liberal @ 05/18/2009 4:55:58 PM

      Oh, yea, that is a quote from Obama's supposed idol Abraham Lincoln!

      • Posted By: nightprowl @ 05/18/2009 10:52:45 PM

        Yea this quote is right, but nObama wants to hand everything to people. Spend everything. And blatantly destroy our country from the top.

  • Posted By: proud republican @ 05/19/2009 2:43:34 AM

    someone posted that no one can predict the future. that is a joke! basic economics tells us what will happen as a result of obama's tax and spend policies.

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