Fearing China

Beijing is challenging the world's economic and financial order. Americans had better get used to it.

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  • Posted By: zytrugie@yahoo.co.jp @ 05/21/2009 1:53:12 AM

    This should be no surprise, or news, to anyone since for the past 30 years American business people and politicians have done everything they could to make China a super power. China should put Bush/Clinton/Bush on a Chinese Mt. Rushmore over there. Yet the super power status of China is not a given. There are extraordinary domestic problems within China while at least 800 million people live in poverty or very difficult financial situations. They will have to tackle enourmous social problems the world has never seen and because they are closed soceity communists they'll have to figure that out all on their own. More importantly, China has not yet embraced freedom. Freedom isn't just a hippy word about "peace, man". Freedom encourages and protects intellectual property and drives new inventions and those are key to leading the world. In all honestly China fails in these two key categories. China is still communist. You simply can't ignore that. They honestly have failed at manufacturing too and the world is not so eager anymore to run to China as THE place to do business. It's good to see many Chinese enjoying a good quality of life but the honest truth is very very few Chinese people have the same quality of life as free nations. It's not just about impressive infrastructure. It's about intangibles and so far China really hasn't had a break out thing that has impressed the world. It really isn't a big deal that a country with 1.3 billion people has built out a modern society in many places. It's just catching up with the rest of the world, is all that is. They need to show the world some impressive things the world has never seen before, before anyone really accepts them as a "wow" nation. I have no doubt they could be the next Soviet Union but I just don't see them becoming the next America or even close to it from top to bottom.

    • Posted By: x2c2 @ 05/21/2009 10:50:15 AM

      You are missing the point. They have no desire to be America. They don't think or act like America. They don't have to and they don't want to. They have a completely different culture and it is much older and richer than nearly anything in the West. Sure they have plenty of problems but they are Chinese problems and will be solved in their own way. Do we agree with everything they do, no, and they feel exactly the same as us. Before you sit back and remark about China or the Chinese people, I suggest you go there or at the very least speak with some people from China, not Chinese Americans, but people that still live there and then maybe you will get a better view of this situation. Certainly, Americans should get their opinions about the most populated country in the world from a source better than the American Media or the Politicians and Corporations that manipulate it.

      • Posted By: mmixaccount @ 06/02/2009 10:52:30 AM

        Totally agree... China doesn't follow your Western-ideas...

  • Posted By: cookiechenhao @ 05/21/2009 11:11:10 AM

    To wavygravy ;
    Still we`re in the third world,we`re having critical humanright problem. but We`re resoving those problems grandually.Do you really think Bad human right records are the main obstacles preventing us from going to the prosperity? Stop quoting human right records again, you`re really boring ,stop those cliche,you`re brain washed by your media that tend to using double standards to measure the world, saddle your own ideology to the rest of the world.DId this article make you jittery and uncomfortable,all of those feeling came from your inner heart, your inner perception.You are not willing the other people who can live better life thant you through diligent work. you`re jealous of our progress and accomplishments in many aspects.

    • Posted By: mmixaccount @ 06/02/2009 10:41:45 AM

      I totallly agree, you Americans should just stop being jealous of our progress and accomplishments...

    • Posted By: greymatter @ 05/21/2009 11:30:03 AM

      spoken like a true Chinese. why talk about human rights? it's all so boring and cliche. let's all focus on 'prosperity'. as long as we are rich, we can look the other way in our darkened window automobiles.

  • Posted By: economyFirst @ 05/21/2009 10:01:13 PM

    we have to show China that who is the boss ?

    • Posted By: mmixaccount @ 06/02/2009 10:31:36 AM

      Show your ass who's boss!!!

  • Posted By: economyFirst @ 05/21/2009 10:12:13 PM

    davidwayneosedach that was funny " 21st century = China " . I would say China 21st century is slave for US. Most of the greatest companys and factorys in China are own by American. And we works them to dearth.

    • Posted By: mmixaccount @ 06/02/2009 10:31:00 AM

      Oh yeah? The 21st century is just starting.... In just 20 to 30 years, US would just be in the sidelines like the Russia now while China will be the new world leader!!!

  • Posted By: rho1953 @ 05/21/2009 11:32:33 PM

    Share power? There is no sharing of power. China is in total control. They own us and our debt. We have outsourced our industrial base to them and with cap and trade the rest will be there shortly. Our role as the world's eminent power is over. It isn't up for debate. We are in our death throes, the American dream has run it's course. It didn't have to be that way, the seeds were sowed during the Clinton administration with their China trade initiative. Could we reverse it? Yes, but not with the radical environmental policies of the democrats or the free trade policies of both parties.

    • Posted By: mmixaccount @ 06/02/2009 10:29:14 AM

      You're right, your role as the eminent power is almost over.... Time for the rise of a new power...

  • Posted By: bohdansz @ 05/25/2009 3:51:33 AM

    China was made up economicallyby the U.S. globalists. This indicates that China has a moral obligation to repay this debt, economically. If China wants to go it alone, every effort must be made to keep China in check. This is so above all things because, after all, China is a Communist country! America has no history of propping up Communism! It's against our values, just as Taliban is! Our ambassador must lay out the blueprint of future relations with China on the basis that I have just described.

    • Posted By: mmixaccount @ 06/02/2009 10:18:00 AM

      Your ass is made in USA STFU FOOL

  • Posted By: chmsaz @ 05/25/2009 1:12:33 PM

    Opinions do not replace facts. We need to know more about the balance of trade in China, Malaysia, Argentina and what are the true repercussions on our economy if the threat against the dollar is realized. It's one thing to mouth off based on hearsay or political platitudes and another to offer a sound solution based on detailed facts.

  • Posted By: jomx @ 05/25/2009 1:03:27 PM

    I say let them be #1 and everyone else in the world can love / hate the Chinese instead of us. Then we can focus on our own problems instead of world-policing and we'll be much better off.

  • Posted By: wesmenno @ 05/23/2009 5:42:13 PM

    America today is just where Britain was 100 years ago.

    They also supposed they were the single greatest world power, and their only foe was Germany.

    People are so short sighted. Maybe "America's the greatest land of all" back in the era of Dinah Shore, but no longer.

    I like my country and its people, but our political and especially economic leader s have been on the wane for decades.

    China may be too big for itself; watch out for Brazil. If its allignment with Japan holds, they could may a superpower together.

  • Posted By: business owner @ 05/22/2009 1:58:57 PM

    Yes China is growing but to state that America has no leverage is a total mistatement. Why did we give China a fovored nation status and allow them to increase their trade total unchecked. This is a country that does not respect and inforce intelectual property rights. In fact they trample them and dare anyone to say anything. They do not maintain quality standards which are not just US standards but international standards. Americans ned to stop looking for the cheapest price at Walmart and other discounters and supprt our local businesses. This will stabilize trhe US ecenomy and force a balance of trade. Then we will see what China's GDP is and what clout they have in the global economy.

  • Posted By: ewin99 @ 05/22/2009 11:03:36 AM

    Japan tookTV production away from US long time ago and is now crushing US auto making badly. China has of course taken away lots of low-paying jobs away from us. The world will be totally fine as long as there are no wars between big countries. US needs to make sure that the Chinese will continue to love its computers, GM cars, medicines, films, making tours to US. Don't be scared when other people begin to stand up.

  • Posted By: jaderdavila @ 05/22/2009 4:44:55 AM

    the us will make the design and china will manufacturate it
    theres no power sharing, its complementary
    china and the us are siamese brothers now

  • Posted By: davidwayneosedach @ 05/21/2009 9:08:35 PM

    19th century = Great Britain

    20th century = United States

    21st century = China

    Get used to it and start learning Chinese...

  • Posted By: msmapper @ 05/21/2009 8:13:23 PM

    US companies outsource to be jobs and are only in for projfits. US government needs to stop the outsourcing and bring jobs back to US. When China starts undercutting US international companies in China and around the world, after all our technology has gone to China, by then the US corporations will realize their mistake, but it might be too late.

  • Posted By: Matt from Texas @ 05/21/2009 12:36:32 PM

    The reason China is such an economic power is that greedy U.S. businesses offshored their production in the name of higher profits and bigger bonuses for executives. As China has little or no respect for intellectual property, this meant transferring a vast amount of U.S. technology and manufacturing techniques to the Chinese for essentially nothing. And our corrupt and stupid political leaders accepted bribes from these corporations, in the form of campaign contributions, to sit idly by and let it happen.

    • Posted By: mac101 @ 05/21/2009 4:30:05 PM

      Uh...the reason China is an up and coming world power is because they have significantly more people than we do, and have finally figured out how to feed them. Now that they don't have to spend all their time and resources on preventing famine, they can concentrate on other things. Like amassing wealth and putting us out of business.

      The arithmetic was inevitable. We can continue to keep our heads in the sand and pretend they don't hold our collective mortgage, or we can figure out a way to co-exist with them. But we can't and won't beat them - they are bigger than we are. The best we can hope for is to be smarter, and lately, we haven't been.

      The golden rule - he who has the gold makes the rules - was true when we had the gold, and it's still true now that they have the gold.

  • Posted By: Spectre73 @ 05/21/2009 10:52:00 AM

    lovedeedee, you could not be more wrong. the Forefathers of the USA were very much Catholic and the original settlers were also very religious. They left Europe to get away from the government imposed singular religion so they could worship how ever they wanted. The USA is very much and has always been a Judo-Christian country, just because you are completely ignorant does not change that fact. when our forefathers wrote the Constitution and our other founding documents they made sure to put in that the government will not push a religion onto its' people which is the meaning of 'freedom of religion'. But that did not change the fact that America is a judo-christian society. So you are wrong again, get over it.

    • Posted By: Arbiter @ 05/21/2009 1:28:18 PM

      Ughhh, I was in no mood to participate in this argument whether or not the U.S. was founded as a Christian nation, but I feel the need to correct your false assertions. Most of the Founding Fathers we're Episcopalian. And a few of the more influential ones, such as Benjamin Franklin, we're Deist, which rejects the notion of supernatural revelations as a basis of truth. From what history books you got that mentions most of the Founding Fathers we're Catholics I have not a clue whatsoever.

      And here's a couple of tidbits from James Madison regarding his beliefs in religion;

      "Can a free government exist with the Roman Catholic Religion?"
      "And until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there will never be any liberal science in the world" (he was referring to people of Episcopal and Presbyterian leanings)

      • Posted By: mac101 @ 05/21/2009 4:21:24 PM

        Judo-Christian? Does that mean we were founded by people who believed in martial arts and Jesus? Mind and body strong, grasshopper.

  • Posted By: MichaelX @ 05/21/2009 3:47:59 PM

    Well, China is'nt trying to take over the world anymore? Apparently, they already have.
    Now, with Gov. Terminator, a lot of US real estate is going to be foriegn owned. It will not be a "lease" it will become soveriegn soil, and restricted use by citizens. Sounds like China already, does'nt it?

  • Posted By: SopheapAng @ 05/21/2009 2:52:02 PM

    When it comes to religions, Americans are not creative at all, they can not create their own god and fairy tales. They have to rely on imported religion they call Christianity and worship the man who was supposedly nailed to a cross.. One thing they don't seem to know is that they are worshipping cruelty. How else can I describe it if not cruelty? By the way, for those silly people who believe in fairy tales, there is a new religion for you. It is called PTL (Praise The Lama) and is founded by the famouse reincarnated Tibetan parasite Dalying Lama. Unlike the former PTL (Praise The Lord) that was founded by con artist Jim Baker, Dalying Lama focuses on BSting reincarnation and karma. What separate these two con artists apart is that Jim Baker is in prison while Dalying Lama can continue coning people due to the fact that he is a U.S. government employee employed to carry out subversions against China.

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