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Republicans won't beat Sonia Sotomayor by attacking her as too darn human.

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  • Posted By: newshound12 @ 07/13/2009 8:07:41 AM

    I wish the Republicans would just state what is definitely true, which is that if a white Republican male had said the same thing she did reversed, then they would be chastised to the point of humiliation by the media and by everybody at the confirmation hearings. They should then go on to say that they don't think that she is truly racist, but that she made a mistake that should not be repeated if she wants to be a supreme court justice.

  • Posted By: GregHere @ 06/06/2009 5:57:15 AM

    ..........................................The Republicans are desparate for anything or anybody to attack to try to get themselves out of the deep cavern that they are in. They must attack Sotomayor because she differs from their philosophy so they will dig to find anything they can find to throw at her in attempts to punch at Obama. The Republicans are finding it almost impossible to recover from the damage done by the Bush Whacking Regime that we endured for eight years.....America will not forget the Bush Blunders.

  • Posted By: Not A Box of Rocks @ 05/30/2009 4:58:38 PM

    That's it???? "Too darn human"??? Nice try. That, Ms. Lithwick, is the lamest attempt at political rehabilitation I've seen today. When you are sworn to the Supreme Court, you take an oath that you will set aside that "too darn human" tendency and focus on reading the law without bias. If Clarence Thomas had uttered anything like this, Democrat heads would be spinning and spewing pea soup.

  • Posted By: DL13 @ 05/30/2009 9:02:09 AM

    According to the Constitution, judges are supposed to be like umpires in a baseball game. Sotomayor is an "activist judge," and has been using her judicial powers to legislate from the bench, which is beyond the scope of what a judge is supposed to do. That is the job of Congress. Congress passes laws, the President signs them into law, and the Court interprets them as to their Constitutionality. We don't need unelected judges legislating from the bench; we need them to rule on Constitutionality, period.! That is why I oppose her. This is supposed to be a nation of laws, not men and women...

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/30/2009 12:53:15 PM

      I agree that we don't need activist judges. But you say "Sotomayor has been using her judicial powers to legislate from the bench". Can you support this claim? Can you tell me of at least one case where Sotomayor legislates from the bench? I've heard several people make the same claim, but I have not heard of a single example of Sotomayor legislating from the bench.

  • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/30/2009 4:25:25 AM

    paulejb, I find your reasoning and criticism of Sotomayor to be seriously flawed. You have listed and complained about quotes of Sotomayor that are clearly taken out of context. You took these quotes on face value without attempting to learn the context, despite me giving you links to the full context. You have erroneously used statistics to argue that Sotomayor is a worse judge than she really is. The flaws in all this could be recognized by anyone with some basic common sense. You have not said anything that hasn't been said by conservative pundits. You need to learn to think for yourself and make sure you know what you are talking about before talking about politic issues like this.

    Most importantly, you claimed that Sotomayor views the constitution as a list of suggestions. Outside of the quotes taken out of context, you have failed miserably to support this claim. I have clearly stated that I only am interested in how Sotomayor would rule as a Supreme Court justice and thus am primarily interested in her prior rulings. You have not mentioned a single ruling showing Sotomayor making a decision on something other than the Constitution.

    In short, I think your claims and concerns about Sotomayor are completely unsupported. I think you are acting like a fool. Stop buying all the BS the conservative pundits feed you and think for yourself. I could debate you further, but I don't see what it would accomplish.

  • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/29/2009 4:03:03 AM

    In response to paulejb regarding Ricci v. Destefano:

    So the big controversy here is that Sotomayor concurred with a decision expressed in a single paragraph? Okay, Cabreras is definitely correct that there are some legal issues that could have and perhaps should have been mentioned in the opinion Sotomayor concurred with. Also, a decision like this being expressed in a single paragraph seems to be pretty bad. Perhaps this brings Sotomayor's competency as a judge into question, though one would need to use several decisions of Sotomayor's to support this. However, I don't see how Sotomayor's decision was incorrect or how this is an example of Sotomayor failing to rule based solely on Constitution and the law. Let's revisit your claim:

    "That is why it is too bad that she views the Constitution as a list of suggestions that can be disregarded on her whim."

    Now, is there a court case where Sotomayor improperly made a decision based on something other than what the law or Constitution say? Is there a court case demonstrating Sotomayor regarding "the Constitution as a list of suggestions"? If so, please tell us which court case and explain why. Otherwise, your claim is unsupported beyond the quotes you mentioned. To be honest, all I care about is how she rules as a judge and whether she is a good judge or not.

  • Posted By: bruic @ 05/29/2009 1:11:16 AM

    While reading into the federal appeals court dismissal, not finding of fact, regarding abortion rights lawyers vs Bush and Powell, the case was merely sent packing because the plaintiffs were found to not have standing. There was no "finding in favor" of the right to life groups. As far as her being poor or a woman, who cares? Most people are trying to make a judgment as to whether she will view the world through the eyes of a constitutional scholar, (which she does not claim to be), or an imperious legislator, (which she claims not to be). One side loves to bring up the Bush appointee thing, when they know that this was a political bargain struck with Moynihan, not a review and approval by President Bush. On the other hand, she is probably not a devil, and a complete review of her case file might be interesting, but tiresome in light of her inevitable appointment.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/29/2009 1:38:09 AM

      "Most people are trying to make a judgment as to whether she will view the world through the eyes of a constitutional scholar, (which she does not claim to be), or an imperious legislator, (which she claims not to be)."
      Well, I think there should be a judgment of some sort made on this. She doesn't have to be a "constitutional scholar", but her job as a Supreme Court justice will be to interpret the Constitution and is not to make laws. I want to know that she can and will do her job correctly.

      "On the other hand, she is probably not a devil, a complete review of her case file might be interesting, but tiresome in light of her inevitable appointment."
      Excluse me, just because she is probably an okay nominee and will be confirmed does not mean that analyzing her character or case file is a waste of time. It is the job of the Senate, with the help of the people, to scrutinizer her and make sure she is a good nominee.

      You make a lot of sense. A number of people are bringing up silly or erroneous points regarding Sotomayor. But we still need good, competent justices on the Supreme Court and it is important for people to question whether Sotomayor would be such a justice.

  • Posted By: Dolmance @ 05/27/2009 11:18:48 AM

    First of all, the role of judges is NOT to interpret the laws passed by Congress and the State Legislatures and sign off on them because they are the will of the people. Rather, their job is to make sure the laws passed by Congress and the State Legislatures conform to the Constitution. Unfortunately, quite a few Republicans make a case for their election by whipping up hatred and fear against minorities, and when they get into office they try to pass laws to make these kinds of voters happy. But the Constitution protects minorities and the unpopular from mob rule and that is one of the primary jobs of Judges to address just that.

    • Posted By: bjsassy @ 05/27/2009 11:43:03 AM

      Please give us some factual examples of the Republicans whipping up hatred for minorities. Please, no generalities.

      • Posted By: Dolmance @ 05/27/2009 12:04:04 PM

        Uhh, Bush Senior's Willie Horton ads, for which he apologized for after winning the Presidency. Jessy Helms' picture of a white man burying his head in his hands because he lost a job to a minority, for which Senator Helms apologized for as being over the top after he won his election. The Republican ads in California's governor's race courtesy of Pete Wilson showing illegal aliens crossing the border with Night of the Living Dead movie music and an announcer intoning, "They keep coming..." as if he were warning people about flesh eating zombies. I could go on and on, thank you.

        • Posted By: bruic @ 05/29/2009 1:33:52 AM

          Willie Horton was introduced in the DEMOCRAT primary, and besides, what was the problem with it? This was a brutal killer, let out for a fun-filled weekend of mayhem, murder, and torture by Dukakis. You run on your record!

        • Posted By: bjsassy @ 05/27/2009 3:17:12 PM

          The ad criticized Governor Michael Dukakis for letting a convicted felon out of prison for a weekend furlough. While Willie Horton was out, he assaulted a man and raped his fiancee. The criticism was designed to point out Governor Dukakis' weakness on crime, not on the man's race. However, the Democrats have always used that ad as an excuse as to why Dukakis lost. They have claimed it was racist for over 20 years. They believe if a lie is said often enough that people will finally believe it. George H. Bush has never been a racist and he has never apologized for the ad. It might have been considered a dirty trick ad. but that is politics. You must be watching too much of MSNBC.

          Jesse Helms was certainly a southern racist in the 60s, but he was a Democrat then. He later joined the Republican Party and he continued to be a racist and a homophobic. Few Republicans would hold him up as a standard bearer for the party. After all, Robert Byrd belonged to the KKK. That does not make the Democrats a racist party either.

          Governor Pete Wilson was opposed to spending billions of dollars on services for illegal aliens. Proposition 187 was approved by the voters. Many people are opposed to illegal immigrants in this country. They are law abiding citizens that welcome legal immigrants to our land. After all, our ancestors were legal immigrants to this country. Maybe, California would be in better financial shape if they had enforced the immigration laws years ago. Pete Wilson was a good governor and he certainly was not a racist.

          You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

      • Posted By: NotSoBigMac @ 05/27/2009 12:01:05 PM

        Willie Horton?

  • Posted By: bjsassy @ 05/28/2009 8:39:40 PM

    I am a moderate conservative and I am appalled at the racism shown here. There is one particular Aryan loving, Catholic hating, Nazi wannabe who should have his tirades removed from this forum. It is difficult to believe that someone from the KKK would bother to read left leaning Newsweek, but he is attracted to race-baiting here. Fortunately, most people are ignoring him.

    Judge Sotomayer will not have half the tough time at her confirmation as Samuel Alito did during his confirmation. He suffered through three days of mean spirited questioning. Yes, the liberals are nasty, too. Judge Sotomayer should be questioned by the Senate Judiciary Committee because this is a life-time post. As a Supreme Court Justice, she may have a huge impact on many American lives. I believe that she will be an improvement over Justice Souter. She is not going to change the ideology of the Court. We conservatives should pray that Justice Kennedy remains healthy. He is the swingman.

  • Posted By: God comes to NW @ 05/27/2009 4:26:21 PM

    Do not search for answers or search for reasons to lie down with the socialist dogs. god is on the side of the oppressed and at this very moment our race is faced with extinction. the Spanish senors is a member of the Catholic Church. pastor hagee and other notable experts have warned of the Church of the Great whore and not it is here. if the Negros and the Spanish are permitted to run this country, we will become as their countries are . poor and filthy with babies sold for a few dollars. We must act now if we are to survive. Please don't look to your neighbor. It's time for all of us to act.

    • Posted By: tehgideon @ 05/28/2009 3:08:05 PM

      I am SO confused. Why, of all publications, Newsweek? I haven't seen one other publication that attracts this many truly delusional fanatics. Are these people just chaos-loving trolls, or do they think that Newsweek's largely left-wing and moderate readers will somehow be reprogrammed by internet postings made one at a time?

      • Posted By: George Dorn @ 05/28/2009 4:51:04 PM

        Hey. leave us chaos lovers out of this.

        The reasons the right wing fanatics post here seems to vary between wanting to have a good-natured argument, all the way over to screaming and whining because it's finally sinking in that their faction is out of power...depending on who the poster in question is. Some of the conservatives seem pretty bright and eager for a little brawling, and some are outrageous racists who can't stop whimpering that Obama is Black/communist/Islamic/Kenyan/etc.

        It's a mix...just like everywhere else.

    • Posted By: George Dorn @ 05/27/2009 4:29:23 PM

      Wow. LOL.

      • Posted By: Jack 8590 @ 05/27/2009 4:41:31 PM

        OMG - you are out in the desert somewhere, I hope.......

  • Posted By: Shoholanana @ 05/28/2009 9:35:10 AM

    This article should have been titled......."Irrational Hysterics" The right wing......hasn't learned one thing about the demographics of the last election. The irrational right wing.....is losing ground, therefore the Republican Party is losing a LARGE voting bloc. Over 200,000 Pennsylvania Republican voters left the party between 2002 - 2008, for many reasons.
    One major reason in the Norteastern part of Pennsylvania..........Was the Republican Party supporting the re-election bid for Congressman Don Sherwood.......GOOGLE Don Sherwood...........The Republican "Family Values" Party.......pushed for re-election of this amoral idiot. Rick (Rubber Stamp) Santorum.......was/is a joke...........he lost as well. People are sick and tired of hypocritical irrational histrionics from the Republican Party. Dick Cheney.......comes out of his bunker now and chooses as his spokesman......Rush Limbaugh........Gotta wonder where Dick has his head stuck.

    • Posted By: George Dorn @ 05/28/2009 1:43:27 PM

      On the other hand, Obama isn't shaping up as promised, either...at least not with his talk of "indefinite preventative detainment". Sounds like Dick Cheney with a toothy grin, to me.

  • Posted By: marley07 @ 05/28/2009 1:13:12 PM

    You can argue all you want if she is the right pick or not. What we do know is Obama continues with his agenda of big government, "statist" mentallity and picked the most liberal candidate possible. If people are fine with this trend, then it was a good pick. If people are fine with government gripping down on daily lives, then you should agree with Obama's agenda.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/28/2009 1:40:49 PM

      "most liberal candidate possible"? Sotomayor is a moderate.

  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 05/27/2009 10:24:52 PM

    Pauljeb.

    So if you are such a purist Constitutionalist the I have to ask you.... Why do you think that Judge Sotomayor is being attacked by the Right Wing on her judgment in the Firefighter's New Haven case?

    Were Sotomayor, and her fellow judges not following precedent on the second circuit court of appeals when they ruled against the white firefithgrs from the city of New Haven ? Was that not the reason given to rule against them?

    The ruling was on precedent, as in Constitutional precedent set by the Second distric court, and therefore she applied the previous presedented ruling in adherance with CONSTITUTIONAL LAW..... Only this time around you Right Wingers did not like the "presedent" applied. Kind of the "judgment" we got from another Constitutionalist champion of the Right in the Florida re-count of Bush Vs. Gore.... Remember that "Constitutional" Jewel my friend.

    It has Justice Scalia, the champion of Constirutionalism himself, simply droping all pretence of any aderance to his long standing ideas, and simply making policy from the bench in a ruling that went doen as " A one time no-precedent ruling"...Why this special clouse in the ruling? Because the ruling created an Un-Constitutional "presedent" that would have given nightmares to future jurists, that's why. So much for Scalia's B.S. Constitutionality views.

    So if you are honest my friend let's just say that your ideas are only applied when convenient..... Kind of like the deficits, you guys only worry about them when a Democrat is in power.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/28/2009 12:39:21 AM

      "Were Sotomayor, and her fellow judges not following precedent on the second circuit court of appeals when they ruled against the white firefithgrs from the city of New Haven ? Was that not the reason given to rule against them?"
      I haven't read the decision myself, but I have heard this point made before. If this indeed what happened, this is exactly the kind of Supreme Court justices we need: people who based on legal precedent and the Constitution.

      "So if you are honest my friend let's just say that your ideas are only applied when convenient..... Kind of like the deficits, you guys only worry about them when a Democrat is in power."
      Exactly. And many Republicans and other Americans have noticed this and stopped voting for Republicans. We actually want people who uphold the Constitution and manage the budget and debt, not politicians who talk about it and then act differently. Under Bush, the Republicans did nothing but act differently.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 05/27/2009 11:13:37 PM

    Lithwick creates some consternation in that ,as with FOX and CNNs parade of toothy blondes, she becomes a rather attractive woman with a dumbbell attached. The dependable subject of ridicule among law professionals,she becomes the ''McLaw'' of legal matters no differant than her pal over at NPR/PBS,Nina Totenburg, who gives law profs ulcers,or has them reaching for a bottle of single malt. This species of leftist legal eagles [ or mudhens], offers simply too much hypocrisy when weighed against their earlier and quite recent tirades against Bush USSC picks. Oh, Sotomayor will go, and will live to embarass dimwits like Leahy and Schumer, but then, like myself many moons past,Americans will not have to take anything she has to say on any subject seriously again. It is not such a long drop from a John Kenneth Galbraith to a Shemp Howard now is it Dahlia?

  • Posted By: jacksonh96701 @ 05/27/2009 9:55:38 PM

    It seems to me that there are parts of the constitution that are just vague enough to where the courts have to use their best judgement to determine the intent of the original framers. Maybe that is where the whole "empathy" thing comes into play. I still don't understand how the commerce clause enables Congress to do some of the things that they do. A lot of people like to use the analogy that a judge is supposed to only call balls and strikes but sometimes things are not that straight forward.

  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 05/27/2009 7:10:23 PM

    bkrummel.

    How refreshing to hear from a real Republican . It makes me remember what the GOP used to be like.

    Now a days what you have in the GOP is a party in chaos with all kinds of discredited politicians, radio talk hosts, Fox commentators, and street nuts pretending to oppose the Democrats by attacking for the sake of attacking.

    I long for a Republican party that comes out with true NEW ideas expresed by true intelligent leaders to help our country, not Newt Gingrish re-cycled hot hair, or Rush Limbaugh latest outrageous remark . If that's what the Republican party has becomed, then the GOP is no more.

    I have pointed out repeatedly that the Right Wing is risking the loss of the Latino vote in vital states just for the hell of it. There's not a thing to be gained with this fight, but still the Right Wing continues on is mad quest for some kind of suicide pact with themselves.

    I guess is the mark of the fanatic. Ideology comes before self-preservation.







    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/27/2009 8:07:19 PM

      gvillagran3, no problem. Just glad to remind someone what the GOP was like. Let's hope someone else catches on. Also, glad to read your posts, as they are thoughtful and intelligent.

      The Republican Party badly needs new leadership and new ideas. I wish I could say the Republicans are just having a rough time right now and reform will come soon, but I think it is far more serious than that and the Republicans will need to lose at least one more election badly before they start to reform. But there are Republicans, true Republicans like me though they might not call themselves Republicans right now, who feel exactly as I do and who share some of your views. They can't wait to reform and reawaken the Republican Party.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 05/27/2009 7:56:28 PM

    I retired after spending a life- teaching in an inner city high school located in a 'hood so dangerous that it was nicknamed "the killing Fields."For years, I read autobiographical essays written by my students for their college portfolios, students like Sonia Sotomayor. Neither Ellis Cose, the white guys in the media, nor the GOP (Grand Old Privileged white Guys) cannot understand my day-to-day experiences. Nor can they understand the personal truths my students wrote in their portfolio essays. In the same line, the Grand Old Priveleged White guys also have no idea of the life or obstacles that Sonia Sotomayor had to overcome.
    As far as I am concerned, when Sotomayor made her famous oft-quoted remark about privileged white guys, never was the truth more told. It's the truth that Privileged White America and the Privileged White GOP can neither face nor understand.

    P.S. For the record, I happen to be a white guy,

  • Posted By: Smilin bob @ 05/27/2009 7:03:20 PM

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  • Posted By: God comes to NW @ 05/27/2009 6:10:03 PM

    there are many voices here who completely understand the perils the country faces under the socialists. unfortunately some of you are playing into the enemy's hands. respectfully, i encourage to attck with facts. it is not evil to protect your race against those who are out to destroy it. refrain from the charactor assassination and attach the problem directly. Doing otherwise is wasting valuable time. this is not about a single spanish Judge. It is about a systematic search and destroy mission by the non-whites to obliterate the aryan race. thank you for your consideration.

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 05/27/2009 6:59:15 PM

      You are a bigot. Stop talking about "God" or "systematic search and destroy of the aryan race". There are people with different religious beliefs than you and of different races and ethnicity than you and they are all Americans just like you. They pose no threat to you or your country, despite what you might thing. Your claims are merely fearful and unjustified. Your obvious intolerance of such people is disgusting.

  • Posted By: Smilin bob @ 05/27/2009 6:47:52 PM

    I'M NOT BACK. I CAN'T MESS WITH NOT SO ON MY WORK COMPUTER. BYE

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