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  • Posted By: grayguy_1942 @ 07/28/2009 12:10:09 PM

    Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/29/2009 5:36:34 PM
    In the grand scheme of things most of us are really unaffected by the Supreme Court, despite what the Gun and Religeos Pac may say.

    Do you really believe that? I'll take the most obvious, Roe vs. Wade. That ruling weather you agree or disagree has changed our society. And I'll leave it's morality to each of you that read this.

    Roe vs. Wade, started as one woman wanting to terminate her pregnancy. This was denied by Wade representing the state of Texas. The Supreme Court ruled in her favor. Based on that ruling a new industry sprouted: abortion clinics.

    The last ruling by Sonamayor, if not overturned could have far reaching affects. How about instead of a white fireman it was a black fireman. Read this in the New York Time, black fireman not hired because not enough minorities applied for position.

    How about you and me at work. No promotion unless a certain amount of minorities apply for the same position. A little farfetched, agreed.

    But what number on minorities are needed before someone can be hired for a position? And are we talking about only black vs. white? Why not Asian? Why not Native American? Why not Hispanic? And what is the quantity of each.

    So, based on the above, we would need a certain number--unknown--of Asians, Native Americans, African Americans, Hispanics, apply for our job positions before we could be hired by our companies. Notice I did not include Caucasians--commonly known as whites.

    Now this may toast your noodle--Matrix--what about Irish Americans, Italian Americans, Polish Americans, etc.


  • Posted By: grayguy_1942 @ 07/28/2009 11:12:23 AM

    The point isn't really what she said about a Latino woman and white man. Personally that's her opinion and we all have opinions one way or the other. The problem as I see it, Sotomayor can't separate her opinions from the law--creating gray rulings.
    Now I'm not the sharpest knife in the draw, but, as I understand it, the supreme court does not go looking for rulings to overturn. I believe rulings are appealed and eventually work their way up to the court. Then they decide to review the ruling or not.
    Now would the number of overturned rulings by Sotomayor be greater if they were all appealed and went to the Supreme Court?
    Just because someone has a hard life and makes good does not mean they are the right person for the job. Look at the people you work with. Are they all good at what they do?


  • Posted By: Rush3041 @ 07/15/2009 10:42:11 PM

    The real point is the racist comments she made not once but several times. The point here is that she should not sit on that bench because of those remarks. If you think otherwise then you have nothing to say if a white man makes a similar statement and then is put in the same position. The simple fact is that had McCain won, and he was nominating some older white conservative who had made the statement that "A wise white man, based on the richness of his life experience, would reach a better conclusion than a woman of a minority race.", there is no way he would get confirmed. Nobody would say that the issue is his voting record. Nobody would say that it was OK for him to say that. Nobody would make excuses for him, or by his excuses when he tried to say that wasn't what he meant. Simple fact is, that one statement would have sunk his nomination. You don't solve racial equality problems by treating the races differently. You don't make excuses for impropriety. You solve racial problems by insisting that in all instances, the races be treated equally. Period.

  • Posted By: pateriot @ 06/30/2009 9:36:01 PM

    grayguy_1942 has landed n the ral significance of Satamayor's cases that jave been overturned by the US Supreme Court. This is the fact that she has had 6 cases that have now have had to even been reviewed by the it, ad then 60% (now 67%or 2/3) have been overturned on constiutional grounds. This is not good for someone who now aspires to uphold the constitution in the highest court of the land!! Of course this significance could not have been missed by Newsweek. One must only assume that they have joined most of the press in their blind worship of our own Glorious Ledear amd Premier, Barack Hussein Obama II, and his fight against the empirilstic Capitalist Pigs. Imagine...if you will, a world were there is no constiituiion to restrain the good and peaceful intent of the leftists in our government who wish to stamp out capitalism, traditional moral values, and our evil oppulent Western lifestyles. Only one or two more leftist Supreme Court justices and Newsweek's vision of a better world will be fulfilled. Yes we can...yes we can...yes we can.......!!!!

  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/29/2009 5:36:34 PM

    Make that 4. Today the Politically biased Supreme Court shot down a decision that sotomayor participated in . the case was, as I understand it, filed by White firefighters that lost their promotions because the municipality's leaders decided that the test was too difficult for latinos and African Americans.

    Guess what/ Here's one dem. that thinks the supremes got it right. While I believe in trying to help minorities with affirmative action and helping them get a lift up, i don't agree with the municipality's decision to trash the results or with Sotomayor's decision to say it was ok to do so.

    The last thing on this earth we need is to dumb down the test for first responders. Who in their right mind would want someone incapable of passing a test doing CPR or saving your home.

    Now having said that, i hope Sotomayor is defeated by the GOP. Why? Simple because that will convince the Hispanic Voter that it was discrimination. I wouldn't be suprised if she got confirmed out of fear by the Republicans because of their party's shrinkage. In the grand scheme of things most of us are really unaffected by the Supreme Court, despite what the Gun and Religeos Pac may say.

  • Posted By: grayguy_1942 @ 06/29/2009 2:34:54 PM

    As I understand the 60% in question: of her five major rulings reviewed by the Supreme Court, three have been overturned.

    Every comment for this article--that I read--all refer to Rush Limbaugh. But the article was written to bolster Obama's choice of candidates for the Supreme Court. No one commented on that.

    Well guys it's June 29 and guess what, Sotomayor overturned again. Now the total is 4 of 6.

    One question about your report. I believe you said the Supreme Court has a habit of more than 60% overturns of lower court rulings. But, you didn't mention how many they have overturned for any one judge.

    Who gets the blue ribbon?

  • Posted By: bklyndan @ 05/29/2009 3:22:15 PM

    Did anyone actually believe that Rush would: A. Admit he lifted out of context; or B. That he outright lied by not further stating exactly how many opinions she'd written? Rush doesn't want to debate, he wants to pontificate. he wants to roil the waters as a tribute to his massive ego. Remember, he's an entertainer, not a dazzling intellect. Typical GOP nonsense.

    • Posted By: I'm all in @ 05/30/2009 11:41:39 AM

      Rush is an entainment failure by any standard. He couldn't get the ratings required for his short lived TV show because noone cared for him. He boasts of 13 million listeners a week. that's about 2.5 million a day. 2.5 million out of 300 millions. Is rush a personal success? Yes, because if you have 2.5 million people buying sleep number beds and Bose radios, you can make several million a year. Is the a success as a person who's opinion is valued by more than these 2.5 million? No, he is certainly not. He's found his niche and made the most of it, selling snake oil to snakes.

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/02/2009 12:18:14 PM

        Last weeks NIELSEN Ratings for Keith Olbermanns COUNTDOWN [MSNBC] display a measly 400,000 viewers,which is his shows monthly average.


        Thats even less than Limbaughs listenership by well more than half.

        And Olbermann is caught quite frequently ''outright lying'' [ I can profer the precise contexts of these] or ''lifts out of context''.

        This would make Olbermann by your standards an ''entertainer'',yes?

        www.nielsenresearch.com

        • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/02/2009 12:54:03 PM

          If you don't mind lee, i'll speak for myself. I hate Oberman, spitting Chris Mathews, Ed shultz and Rachel Maddow. these are probably the worst of the worst. Equal in every way to hannity, Rove and Dick Morris lie and spin, lie and spin.

          i feel sorry for those who can see through these characters. I suppose that if they don't use the shock and awe and follow the dictates of their Stations, they'd be out. their goal is to attract viewers and listeners and the way to do that is to say nasty things that are agreed with. Only two, in my opinion have done harm to their party. Limbaugh and hannity are preaching to a choir full of the low life portion of the GOP base. Now, please don't pretend that you don't know this or that they exist and in serious numbers.

          • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/02/2009 1:07:14 PM

            i hope you get the gist of this. I didn't write that very well. I'll add a little. The fact that the democrats are in the majority shows that they are not interested in the MSNBC shock jocks. If the numbers you quote are correct and i think they are, it's proof that a lot more republicans buy into what Limbaugh is selling than are democrats for what Obermann. What do you make of that?

            • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/02/2009 2:54:12 PM

              Nothing.

              For you have provided no party affilation for those who listen to Limbaugh that would include Independants and yes, judging from his frequent debates with these,liberals as well.

              • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/02/2009 5:15:20 PM

                Who would argue that Democrats and independents listen to limbaugh. Not to listen to the opposition and be uninformed as to what they're up to would be ridiculous. I'm certainly entertained by Rush, disgusted with Hannity and Morris but I don't have to guess or pretend to know how they think.

                • Posted By: BloodofPatriots @ 06/12/2009 11:11:16 AM

                  The night Rush called adolescent Chelsea Clinton "the White House dog" wasn't disgusting enough for you?

    • Posted By: IrishShamrock @ 06/02/2009 1:54:09 PM

      Rush is a talker who presents his views in an entertaining way. He is so extremely successful because of his dazzling intellect and astute logic within his informed opinions. He tries to enlighten, not trick. What would be in it for him to lie?

      • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/02/2009 2:13:41 PM

        Pretty funny. If you as "dazzled" by ole rushbo's intellect, good for you. what would be in it for him to lie/ How about his hard core right wing listeners. Suppose, just for example, Rush said he favored a women's right to choose. Adios. what if Oberman said he was a right to lifer? Adios rush makes 14 million, a year. Would you maybe shade the truth for 14 mil? I'm not saying Rush doesn't believe in the conservative cause, but he spins everything that comes accross his desk, as do all of the Jocks that have a political agenda.

  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/02/2009 10:22:20 AM

    The DNC is making a serious move on Texas. I expect the State to turn Blue no later that 2016. Look for the first Hispanic Governor in 2 election cycles. That will reduce the Red States to those Southern plus a few more impoverished states. The only red State not accepting more back in taxes at the currrent time, is texas. With that lost, the GOP Red States will all be rely ing on the Blue states for a handout. Who is the Social now?

    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/02/2009 12:12:54 PM

      Yet the US Dept of Labor shows that Mississippi and Alabama are less impacted by ''impovershment'' than the quite Blue Oregon and Michigan. [Michigan,suffering another 20-+ thousands in GM layoffs while Oregon,is in double-digit unemployment and rising]. Indeed, one of the nations most prosperous states is the bright Red Utah.




      www.labor.gov

      • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/02/2009 2:31:13 PM

        Just make it up as you go along , Lee. Like the April 2009 Poll on rush. Not on the gallop site. Gee, what a surprise. If the red states are less impoverished, it's because they get the handout from the Federal Government. They pay less taxes in that they get back. All of the Red States except texas get more back than they pay it. where do you think that money comes from. It comes from all but 7 Blue states and texas. 22 of the 23 red States get more back and 20 of the 27 Blue states pay more than they get back. Spin it if you want, but it's all true. if it weren't for the kindness of the blue states the Southern Red states would be in much worse shape financially. I guess that's just another reason for the south to hate the north.

        • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/02/2009 2:48:04 PM

          Errata: Insert ''RASMUSSEN'' for ''GALLUP''

          REUTERS Mar. 03,2009: ''Poll: Most Republicans Reject Rush As Party Leader''

          THE ATLANTIC Mar. 12,2009: ''Rush As GOP Leader? Republicans Don't Think So"'

          RASMUSSEN Mar .03 ,2009: ''Poll: 81% Of Republicans Reject Rush As ''Party Leader''

          www.rasmussenreports.com

          • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/02/2009 5:28:28 PM

            10-4, I'm not researching, i'll trust you on this one and maybe check later. I think it could be true but i also think that not all republican's are created equal. I'd wager that those in the Base would poll somewhat differently. Gallup did have a feb. 09 poll that had 60% of the Republicans liking rush. 40% of reps.approving of Obama. with 65% of ConReps. disapproving. 16% of dems. liked Rush. I think these polls underline what the whole country has been saying. that enough core low class Reps. have pulled the party down. I doubt 2010 will show the inner struggle, it might, but 2012 will tell the tale. If the hard cases insist on standing their ground, we may see Lee Holmes as a fiscally conservative/ Socially moderate Independent. the fight for the Republican nomination will speak volumes. I'm out, have a good one. Wasn't it nice to have a fairly cordial go around without being interupted by Harley or noso quietmajority. We'd both be defending our wives if they were here.

  • Posted By: IrishShamrock @ 06/02/2009 1:50:24 PM

    Rush said her opinions (we would assume it is of opinions given a chance to be reviewed by Supreme Court) have been overturned 60% of the time, not 80% as indicated by question posed above.

    • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/02/2009 2:38:46 PM

      She's been reviewed by the Republican stacked Supreme Court 4 times with 1 pending, out of 224 Appeals Court Decisions. About 1.7% of her opinions have been overturned. I don't see that as a bad record. Maybe if i was a republican watching helplessly while my party disappeared, i would feel differently. You guys remind me of the kid who was hanging by his jock strap from the Gym ceiling and the coach hollered for everyone to turn in all athletic gear.

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/02/2009 3:32:25 PM

        Which is more comical,you will agree, than Democrat lawmakers ripping off taxpayers by the tens of millions that would include those in ''Red States'' who pay for such niceties as a John Murtha Airport that nearly no-one ever uses,a sort of ''airport to nowhere'', which was exposed by....Republicans, who also pressured Dems to stop fiddling around with Dodd and Murtha [let alone Rangel, Mollahan,and Moran] and demanded that their respective ethics committees do something. Obviously, 2nd Amendment issues are off the table, which shows the still nascent clout of the minority GOP when paired with more conservative Democrats, hence the bill Obama just signed on energy also contained within it,an amendment that would allow national parks pistol packing,inserted by a Republican, and the joining of Republicans with these against Kennedys healthcare plan that is going nowhere.
        Thus the GOP, much to the dismay of those who have already killed it off, are becoming spoilers in their own right, fending off the machinations of the Democrats left wing..[The ''Progressive Caucus'' ,which is even more isolated than the GOP ].

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/01/2009 3:12:52 PM

    The most glaring portion of the reversals observes the hostility towards business displayed by Sotomayor. Especially in that,like Limbaugh,she found that which was not there [MERRILL LYNCH v DABIT],vs. Limbaughs ''80% ''as opposed to ''60%''.
    But Limbaugh is a private radio blowhard whose decisions or opinions affect no-one,while Sotomayor is in a position that would affect all Americans.

    • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/01/2009 6:14:37 PM

      Are you trying to downplay his power over the GOP's elected officials. He runs your party as much as anyone does these days.

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/02/2009 12:08:21 PM

        I also neglected this.


        An April 04,2009 GALLUP poll shows that over 76% of Republicans polled do not consider Limbaugh a ''party leader'' or that he is ''running'' anything.


        Yet Obamas supporters consistantly point to GALLUP as a source displaying the presidents popularity which is less [ at 63%] than those Republicans who do not claim a Limbaugh party leadership mantle. Your keystone konfederates Emmanuel and Carville made that scene. Not the GOP....[or,as is obvious,its rank and file members].

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/02/2009 12:03:01 PM

        If you can produce proof of such an arrangement, since this is a FACTCHECK forum after all, then bring forth your evidence. We see that HUFFINGTON POST,that most liberal of opinion forums,has hosted no fewer than five top Democrat lawmakers including Pelosi, Boxer,Dodd,Kucinich,and Schumer within the last six months,and that HUFFINGTON has been granted a position within the White House press corps pool.


        Does this make the website a dependable source of influence on Democrat lawmaking or bills introduction?

        I have no evidence of this.


        Any more than you do regarding Mr.Limbaugh.

  • Posted By: EdEKit @ 06/01/2009 10:23:40 PM

    The more I am exposed to the radical right the more I celebrate my militant centrist position. When competence and honor become liabilities, incompetence and dishonor become the norm. No society can survive long with the extremes whipsawing the systems.

  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/01/2009 1:37:33 PM

    Here's a typical debate by notsoquiet.

    A blogger says that President obama should close Gitmo

    Not so quiet says, You're an idiot, Have you got more that a 6th grade education?

    Blogger, Stick to the subject, Gitmo.

    not so quiet, Are you afraid to answer my question/

    blogger, What's my education got to do with it?

    notsoquiet, because i'm banging your wife and mother.

    This guy thinks his opinion would ever be taken seriously? he just a small minded filthy little jerk.

  • Posted By: brydges @ 05/29/2009 1:45:59 PM

    Rush is turning out to be as factual as Nancy Pelosi, at least the Republicans aren't stupid enough to put him in office

    • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 05/29/2009 2:14:21 PM

      You repugs always eat your own, don't you? Lick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down. Weasels.

      • Posted By: brydges @ 05/29/2009 2:22:42 PM

        Never liked Rush or any extremist politics who distort facts, It's called having principals. Rather then just by a lyng scumbag like most Democrats

        • Posted By: I'm all in @ 05/31/2009 12:56:43 PM

          I'm a democrat and we're on the same wave length. i could make a list a mile long. start with Dodd, Pelosi, Reid, obey and Frank. Are party would be infinitely stronger without these guys. I think we'll see some changes this time around. Dodd i think will lose to simmons in the primary. Reid will probably be either defeated ior replaced as leader at least. Pelosi may get voted out as speaker. If all of these things were to happen. We'd have Durbin, i think as eader in the Senate and Hoyer in the House. A definite upgrade in energy and intelligance.

  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 05/30/2009 7:34:08 PM

    This is the first time i recall the Republicans wanting Limbaugh to shut up and the Democrats wanting him to keep talking. Is Ole Rushbo a Democrat plant?

  • Posted By: ironmtn6 @ 05/29/2009 3:01:45 PM

    Sotomayor's views will be only part of the Court's action. She has earned her chance. The Senate should "Advise" and Consent or not Consent as they determine.

    • Posted By: I'm all in @ 05/30/2009 11:45:02 AM

      I think she'll win easily but it wouldn't hurt to see her take one for the team. If the GOP is nutty enough oo afraid of ole rushbo enough to shoot her down, the path to victory in 2010 and 2012 will be lined with rose patals. just the hearing may be enough to assure the Hispanic vote in 2012.

      • Posted By: I'm all in @ 05/30/2009 11:49:43 AM

        Sorry for the typos. Rose patals? oo? Petals or. my bad

  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 05/30/2009 11:31:29 AM

    When the Republicans are attacking welfare or food stamps, they say that everyone has an equal chance to achieve the American Dream. They point to those that earned what they have. Please don't call them on it though, because as soon as someone not in there party tries to reach for the stars, they attempt to destroy them. It's not exactly rasist though because it's selective. They may use the non-white attack because thay have plenty of support from the low class elements of their party. it's actually not racist, it's politics. The proof is Richard Steele, Clarence Thomas and others. As long as that non-white is in service to the GOP, it's cool. When they aren't, that's another story, just ask Colin Powell.

  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 05/30/2009 11:11:24 AM

    If Latinos want to vote Democrat, let them. the main thing is we don't let any of them, especially a Woman get on our highest Court.

  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 05/30/2009 10:56:02 AM

    If you exclude the dicision that was't over turned and the and the other 228 that weren't questioned, her overturn rate would be 100%

    Do we really want a Judge to be on the Supreme Court that has been overturned 100% of the time? Let me put that another way. Do we really want a Latino Judge that has been overturned 100% of the time? Still not convinces? Do we really want a Woman Latino Judge that has been overturned 100% of the time?

  • Posted By: mac101 @ 05/29/2009 9:44:02 PM

    How many Alito, Roberts, or for that matter, Ginsburg or Souter opinions were overturned? Perhaps Rush has done that research, and can comment intelligently on the other 8 justices' history of cases before the high court?

    I'm guessing that Sotomayor, because of her many years of experience, has had many more cases, period, so by the law of averages, more have gone to the Supreme Court than any of the other justices.

    Perhaps Rush would care to comment of that as well?

    Didn't think so.

  • Posted By: Vigilance @ 05/29/2009 6:35:25 PM

    " We'll update this item if we receive a response."

    Bwah! Rush never apologizes for any of the numerous statistics he gets wrong. He didn't apologize about the "five million mortgages held by illegals" thing either.

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