Reality TV Hates Women

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  • Posted By: jonny16 @ 08/03/2009 8:46:57 AM

    ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME IM SO MAD RIGHT NOW DID YOU JUST SAY TV IS SEXIST TO WOMEN LOOK AT TNT FOR CHRIST SAKES LOOK AT COMMERCIALS THEY ALL MAKE MEN LOOK STUPID AND DUMB AND THE WOMEN AS SMART AND SOPHISTICATED LOOK LOOK AT SITCOMS FOR CHRIST SAKE THEY MAKE THE MEN LOOK STUPID AND IMCOMPENTENT AND THEY MAKE THE WOMEN THE HEAD OF THE HOUSE AND HE ASK FOR HER PERMESSION TO BUY STUFF AND GO OUT THAT MAKE ME SO MAD AND THEY NEVER EVER SHOW THAT WOMEN ARE WEAKER THEN MEN LOOK AT ANY SHOW ON TV THEY ALWAYS MAKE BELIVE THAT A SKINNY LITTLE GIRL CAN BEAT A BIG MUSCULAR MAN WHEN SHE WANTS TO HAHAHA I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR EVEN SAYING SUCH A STUPID THING MEN SHOULD SUE THESE SHOWS BUT WE DONT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO CRY OVER THAT *** AND MAKE AN ARTICLE ABOUT IT

  • Posted By: SirLagalot @ 06/05/2009 3:14:46 AM

    As a millenial (1990), I may be able to give better insight into to this than the casual observer. From my observations, relationships seem extremly shallow within my age group. I am not currently involved due to the fact that i'm rather introverted and somewhat nerdy. I try not to prejudge, I really do, but the attitude that "Women are shallow" does carry some weight. Unfortunately, stereotypes are stereotypes because they have a grain (or more often, a dune) of truth to them. It appears that shows such as "the girl's next door" and "she's got the look" combined with the ever commented "princess mentality" gained from a young age may have succeeded in turning a relativly sizeable portion of my female peers into nothing more than airheaded brats of entitlement (I DESERVE a 100 grand modeling job, and a hot husband who makes fifty gazillion a year). Of course there are hardworking and smart women within my age group, but the "Dash of high school bitchy" seems not to have dissipated rather well. It is inaccurate to state that women or a large percentage of women follow a particular mindset. but a fairly large percentage of women will take aspects of this mindset to form the afforementioned stereotype.

    • Posted By: phlogistics @ 06/26/2009 8:59:13 PM

      Being a teenage girl, I do actually understand where you're coming from- it's hard to find girls who don't come off as shallow who don't self-identify as "nerds" or "geeks." Still, once you get past the surface, you may be surprised by how intelligent and kind some of them are.

      ...On the other hand, there ARE a lot of teenage girls who are EXACTLY as bratty as they look. ^_^;;

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/05/2009 1:52:06 PM

      I'm at the oldest tip of the millenial age bracket (actually, missed it by one month), and I don't know anybody who actually thinks or acts like that.

      • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/05/2009 2:02:02 PM

        Are you going by TV or what you see in reality?

        If you're going by what you see in reality, you really have to be aware that there are going to be some shallow young people. Period. I was in college once too, and there were bitchy and shallow people there, like anywhere.

        But I choose to focus on the ones who work hard, regard other people with dignity and respect, and develop themselves and their own intelligence, and I know plenty of people like that.

        Also, a lot of them grow up. Youth is a great time to be shallow. People grow out of it. I suggest that you not judge everyone's future based on a present or past where they may not yet have learned how to think as deeply about the world.

  • Posted By: RealDeal007 @ 06/09/2009 1:26:54 PM

    This article was a waste of time to write/read. This author sounds like a perfect candidate for a stupid reality show. I hate reality TV with the exception of top chef on the bravo network. The bottom line is that there are far more idiots in the US that love this programming than intelligent people who cringe every time these show are aired. You don???t have to watch this crap if you have such a problem with them. By watching this crap you are supporting the ratings and therefore another season of crap. If you must complain, cancel your cable and read some non-fiction novels on REAL women. This author should find a new day job!

    • Posted By: phlogistics @ 06/26/2009 8:51:55 PM

      Insulting the author is unnecessarily rude, especially since you both agree that these shows are stupid (which they most definitely are). Articles like this are written to bring up discussion-- which the author has done pretty well, judging by the comments. I'd say she's pretty good at her job.

  • Posted By: mrshanks @ 06/11/2009 10:52:26 AM

    for one thing, platinum weddings never has brides fighting for the "best of the best". they're all insanely wealthy and don't have to fight for anything. they are just handed whatever it is that they wan.

    for the second thing, bridezillas and other shows like it are entertainment. they're funny and they're just simply filler. that's the whole idea. get over it and watch a show about books or a show with real substance. they do exist. mostly on the history channel or the BBC network. you need to get over yourself and realize that the argument you're making sounds like someone bitching about the fact that they can't find any legitimate news stories on the E! network. gimme a break...

    • Posted By: alib1121 @ 06/11/2009 11:22:14 AM

      Did you actually suggest that the author "watch a show about books"? Really??

      I think the point that the author is trying to make is that reality TV exploits the worst female steroptypes and provides fodder for the herds of sexists and misogynists out there. She is not saying that a few crap shows wouldn't be okay, but that we'd also benefit from television that is inspiring and empowering to women.

      • Posted By: mrshanks @ 06/11/2009 4:04:24 PM

        well i have a degree in literature so i don't think it's unreasonable to suggest watching a show about books (other than oprah's friggin book club).

        i just think she needs to understand that most women (and men) are uneducated and could care less about what's "empowering". the tv suits know this and cater to their rather small brains.

        also, i don't know about you but i myself work my butt off all day long in front of a computer screen. i have to deal with difficult customer issues all day long, i have to know laws, i have to think waaaay too much during the day.
        going home and watching some girl whining about how her napkins don' t match her centerpieces is soothing. it's something i don't have to think about. and that can be quite nice.

        when i feel like thinking on the weekends, if i'm really interested in learning about empowering womankind, i'll pop open a BOOK. i know that's a foreign thought to most of us these days (and i'm not talking about a damn kindle either, but a flesh and blood book). i'll read about Gwendolyn Brooks' amazing poetry or perhaps i'll delve into a book by Jeanette Winterson who tries to specifically write gender out of her books. seriously, be a little smarter. turn off the TV altogether and don't patronize me for suggesting you watch a show about books if you're too lazy to open one yourself.

      • Posted By: mrshanks @ 06/11/2009 4:03:20 PM

    • Posted By: alib1121 @ 06/11/2009 11:21:45 AM

      Did you actually suggest that the author "watch a show about books"? Really??

      I think the point that the author is trying to make is that reality TV exploits the worst female steroptypes and provides fodder for the herds of sexists and misogynists out there. She is not saying that a few crap shows wouldn't be okay, but that we'd also benefit from television that is inspiring and empowering to women.

  • Posted By: mrshanks @ 06/11/2009 4:03:36 PM

    well i have a degree in literature so i don't think it's unreasonable to suggest watching a show about books (other than oprah's friggin book club).

    i just think she needs to understand that most women (and men) are uneducated and could care less about what's "empowering". the tv suits know this and cater to their rather small brains.

    also, i don't know about you but i myself work my butt off all day long in front of a computer screen. i have to deal with difficult customer issues all day long, i have to know laws, i have to think waaaay too much during the day.
    going home and watching some girl whining about how her napkins don' t match her centerpieces is soothing. it's something i don't have to think about. and that can be quite nice.

    when i feel like thinking on the weekends, if i'm really interested in learning about empowering womankind, i'll pop open a BOOK. i know that's a foreign thought to most of us these days (and i'm not talking about a damn kindle either, but a flesh and blood book). i'll read about Gwendolyn Brooks' amazing poetry or perhaps i'll delve into a book by Jeanette Winterson who tries to specifically write gender out of her books. seriously, be a little smarter. turn off the TV altogether and don't patronize me for suggesting you watch a show about books if you're too lazy to open one yourself.

  • Posted By: vrg322 @ 06/11/2009 10:29:38 AM

    Part 2: Two programs that I feel show both women and men in both good and bad light according to what they have done/what the program is doing are The Locator, and Top Chef. Troy Dunn does a fabulous deed in reuniting people with long-lost relatives and close friends. The stories show both misdeeds and bad decisions that were made by both genders with reference to their grown adult child that seeks them. And Troy Dunn's chief investigator/case creator is his mother, a very sharp, beautiful lady. Top Chef treats the women contestants the same as the men, I feel. They must measure up to the very high standards that are set by the contest. Stephanie, who won two seasons ago, proved that not only can a woman win this, but that women can be right up there with the men. But ocasionally stereotypes show up here, too; this past season, there was a woman in the final 3 - fab! - but she lost because she paid too much attention to the suggestions of her sous chef, ironically another woman. And the suggestions weren't great and I feel brought her to defeat; the judges obviously felt the same way.
    Platimum Weddings is very interesting. I like to see the women wedding planners; this program shows they are as competent as the men, and you don't see any bitchiness, etc.; they are very able to cope with the pressures of having to put together a very expensive (some of those budgets are unreal) and absolutely perfect wedding, a mega-stress job to do.
    I, too, can't understand the Celebrity - Get Me Out of Here attraction; also the emphasis and continued interest in such celebrities as Paris Hilton and her crowd. Men who like her and similar programs won't change, unless fewer of these programs are available. Better yet, the networks creating more high standard reality programs would even the playing field.

  • Posted By: vrg322 @ 06/11/2009 10:29:15 AM

    I agree that some of the programs seem to emphasize stereotypes unfavorable to women. But that is what these programs do. I agree that it would be good to have more programs that show the non-stereotype woman, the one in reality that CSI and other fiction programs are doing well.
    I must say that I get interesting things out of seeing the bad stereotype programs. In Women Behind Bars, you see what kind of behavior gets a woman into the worse trouble; how often horrible backgrounds or a traumatic event will lead to a bad ending. You also see some women that I feel were railroaded, and get no understanding or real support from family both before and after the crime. There was one woman who was in for killing her mother; the woman behind bars had a history of physical and mental problems, yet her siblings literally stuck her with being the total caretaker of her mother. I feel she 'lost' it that day; it was not 1st degree. Yes, I agree there are manipulative women in there, but not all of them are.
    I feel Bridezillas show the bad stereotype of women, but also some of these women are genuine ***, and it makes me wonder why the men go ahead and marry them. These women show they can't deal with much stress, and with children to come, and life in general, a wedding should be easy stuff to deal with in comparison. The men in my opinion don't fare well on this program either.

  • Posted By: gincoolette @ 06/05/2009 12:42:16 PM

    Could not agree more. Thank you for this article. I was just watching that horrendous TV show "I am a celebrity get me out of here" where participants were divided by sex. Women were given pink t-shirts to wear, while men blue ones. The women team failed in all competitions bc they were too feminine and women like according to gender schemas. It was disgusting to watch and very disrespectful. One of the female participants was portrayed as the typical shallow beauty - brushing her hair at all times. Two other black women were portrayed as servants maids - doing dishes and washing clothes reinstating the southern stereotypes of Gone with the Wind.

    The show is obviously staged which is makes it even more repellent. Women are not like these fixed stereotypes imposed by a male dominant TV industry. That's enough.

    • Posted By: trixxiego @ 06/11/2009 10:20:29 AM

      You practically just posted the entire script of an episode of this show and then complained ad-nauseam about what a discrace it is. It is people like youself that is the reason these shows air on TV! Don't you all get it? TV executives are genius, they feed our little brains with this crap because people watch and critique and continue to watch!

  • Posted By: the youth @ 06/11/2009 9:19:01 AM

    You bring this case to court, or you continue to joke about it, then you reinforce the stereotypes these shows are exploiting. I personally have no problem that they portray women negatively.. and I am a woman myself. The average individual understands the bizarre personality traits that leads someone to appear on a reality TV show, and they know that one crazy woman does not represent the entire population. The average sexist bigot is ignorant and will not watch reality shows with well-behaved, sane women, because it will have no appeal. In addition, I think it's safe to say that the average male will not watch Real Housewives or Bridezilla.

    Reality TV exploits CRAZY regardless of gender or socioeconomic class. It's entertainment, and it's entertaining. If there is no crazy, it won't get watched, and the ignorant easily influenced by stereotypes will look elsewhere to reinforce their beliefs.

  • Posted By: Disarm33 @ 06/10/2009 2:51:44 AM

    Thanks for writing this. "Reality" TV makes everyone look bad, but it seems like it focuses mainly on dysfunctional women. In fact, pop culture in general seems to have a fascination with dysfunctional women. It's sad because we've got so many distinguished women in the public sphere but we'd rather pay attention to the women on "Real Housewives" or Paris Hilton.

  • Posted By: Scrappy @ 06/09/2009 8:14:33 PM

    Reality television can be a guilty pleasure in it's own right. It???s a way to vicariously indulge in drama without inviting it into your own life. ???Flavor of Love??? was my all time favorite. I just couldn???t believe that you could find that many women to fight over Flav. No disrespect to Flavor Flav intended. One remarkable episode Season 2, Episode 2, the women receive a Flav-o-gram instructing them to dress as nurses and ???heal his broken heart.??? He couldn???t remember some of their names and some of the women gave him gifts with his name spelt wrong. It was hysterical and I felt demeaned in no way because they can have ALL OF THAT. But I had no intention of not watching the show.

    May I direct your attention to my current guilty pleasure ???Daisy of Love.??? This show rocks! The men behave badly vomit, pass out, beat on each other and still get to stay. The only reasonable man on the show, ???professor???, was sent home for boring Daisy to death. My opinion got sent home for not acting a fool! (Can someone get me his number?) Fortunately, I know enough men to know that these men are not the typical men in the dating pool.

    I guess that???s my point. I???m banking that even those who watch reality shows know that they are dramatic on purpose and those given the jobs are carefully selected to make the rest of us appreciate the non-chaotic nature of our boring everyday lives yet intrigue us enough to watch. Peace sure seems like boredom but not after a good episode of Flavor Flav.

    Please don't sue reality shows on behalf of those who greatly enjoy watching others behave badly. They go to the far ends of the earth to find some of these people and they deserve their 15 minutes of fame. Most of those on reality shows are well aware of their behaviors and are participating on their own will for the entertainment of others. All of us have had moments when grace and dignity went out the window and there is consolation in knowing that you cried over minor details but stopped before you tore into others. I work hard and most days harder than I'd like to or even should. I value empowerment and intelligence too but sometimes, just for that one hour a week, I envy those whose job it is to look pretty and act a fool. Maybe I'll apply for that show "She's Got the Look." I'd love to, just for one day, be self-indulgent, say goodbye to overwhelming responsibilities, and just look pretty.

  • Posted By: rvnyc @ 06/09/2009 11:17:26 AM

    The other thing to remember is that those shows are edited to emphasize drama, not complexity. I remember an episode of Bridezillas where I actually thought the bride had a legitimate concern (that her fiance was putting his mother's needs before hers -- which can translate into a difficult marriage...) but that issue wasn't explored. It was edited to make her look like a spoiled brat. It's not just the women on the shows who are the problem, it's the way their behavior is framed to reinforce our stereotypes, not rethink them.

  • Posted By: nj_jcarter @ 06/09/2009 8:51:04 AM

    Here's the sad truth though: The only reason that season after season these shows are produced for the glutted masses, is that someone is watching them. I'm a man so I can only understand your article to the extent that I'm a rational human being (that should be enough I think) but I believe that "Reality" Shows are creating a dumbening effect on the young.

    I visit with my cousins who have several small children as well as several teenagers. Everytime I go over, the TV is blasting VH1 or MTV or some other useless channel and the teenagers are usually watching some overly dramatic "Reality" Show where the people are absolutely without any merit. This is not to mention the constant commercial breaks featuring half naked women somehow competing to be Paris Hilton's next BFF. But I digress as that is a topic in and of itself. When I ask my cousin's kids about the show they tell me how dumb it is and unrealistic and yet they watch it which confounds my understanding.

    "Reality" Shows are contradictory in their very nature. The try to find people with the drive to attain whatever goal the show boasts, but in doing so seem to only find people who lack any kind of moral or social compass. They are in fact the opposite of reality. The reward the instant gratification that so many now are trying to find which creates an illusion for anyone trying to get ahead. Really the only way to get a free ride is to join one of these "Reality" Shows but to do so means that we have to demoralize and degrade ourselves. Sadly though this seems to be what the people want... though I'm not sure if anyone is actually asking.

  • Posted By: apoorperson @ 06/08/2009 10:25:01 AM

    I have to admit I watch Bridezillas. I watch in fascination while these women go berserk over the most minor things and treat their friends, families and fiances like dirt. I guess my biggest surprise is that the marriages actually happen. I just wonder how much is real and how much is put on for the cameras.

  • Posted By: Brytewitch @ 06/07/2009 11:03:10 PM

    THANK YOU for this article! the worst part for me, about these garbage shows, is that it's teaching our society that the woman who behaves the worst, has the least intellect, and shows the most amount of skin, is the one who gets attention. Kudos to the writers for fictional television shows who DO portray their female characters as intelligent, driven people. I would rather have my teenage daughter finding a role model in fiction about a doctor, lawyer, scientist, etc, than a bridezilla, a woman behaving badly, or a trashy, self-absorbed housewife who only knows how to back-stab and shop.

    • Posted By: Brytewitch @ 06/07/2009 11:08:39 PM

      Sorry, let me clarify my first housewife comment - I find honor in raising children and committing to a family and home. I'm currently one myself. I find no honor in the "Reality TV" version of a housewife mentioned in this article.

  • Posted By: olcranky @ 06/07/2009 11:52:07 AM

    actually, the worst part (and this goes for almost all so-called "reality" shows, not just those with psycho women, is that way too many of these people get so much coverage that they become defacto celebrities that just won't go away. this is actually leading many of the more vapid celebrities who start out as actors/musicians to act just as desperate as speidi to get attention and assert their "relevance" (I'm talking to you Ashton and Demi)

  • Posted By: L.Lee @ 06/06/2009 6:23:01 PM

    Uh... no. And who the hell do you think you are to speak for all women?

  • Posted By: amykins @ 06/06/2009 1:12:07 AM

    Thank you for writing this. For those who say 'Just change the channel' or 'Its reality tv, of course its fake and horrible' obviously havent looked around at society that much.

    Our media does have a strong impact on peoples mindsets whether is concious or subconcious. I feel like MTV does some of the most damage. Showing our youth meat head guys (jackass, real world, dating shows) and brainless materialistic girls (super sweet 16, the hills, etc) for most of their programing as 'role models'.
    While they might not use that term, the fact that these are the kind of teenagers that get media attention is enough to make a young person consciously or unconsciously take note.
    Why cant we have reality shows about women and men of all ages doing positive and constructive things with their lives, rather than making fools of themselves? Why most cynics would say 'No one wants to see that', I greatly disagree. The problem is no ones been given the chance to want to see that.

  • Posted By: lmasure @ 06/05/2009 2:12:19 PM

    AMEN!! Couldn't have said it better myself. Can't bring myself to watch these stupid shows because of all that.

  • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/05/2009 1:54:05 PM

    Reality TV isn't. Period.

    These people are all carefully picked for the ability to provoke and/or entertain, and all are carefully screened by boomer TV executives. It's entertainment, but it's not real.

    The people who have their *** together mostly don't go looking for fame on reality shows, so you won't see them.

    My advice: if you're appalled by what you see, change the channel. If the ratings on these shows weren't so high, people would just ignore it all.

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