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  • Posted By: jsbuford @ 11/26/2009 10:29:04 AM

    Give it a break Fineman and everyone else for that matter. Obviously, you have love for your city, just as most people love where they actually reside. Detroit is suffering from a tempest of dispraise that in some respects is unwarranted. Yes, Detroit is suffering. There is room for improvement (a whole lot of improvement) and the state of Michigan for that matter. However, Detroit has what it takes to be first class city again: infrastructure (water system), housing stock, natural resources (border with this country's largest trading partner), and a ctizenry (despite the borderline racist characterizations constantly being employed to caricature Detroiters) that is as gritty, and prideful as they come. For those who want to continually question the intellect or pride of the city's residents, I challenge you to stop in any number of restaurants up and down Woodward Ave. and spark a socio-politico conversation. I'm certain you'll quickly discover just how myopic your perspectives are. In the end though, people respond to economic imperatives and incentives...just as Pittsburgh, Chicago, and any other hosts of cities that experienced such dire straits. The federal government is not the answer, however there is much the government can do to provide incentives for and support to cities like Detroit that are suffering from the recalibration of the U.S. economy.

  • Posted By: nuclear22 @ 09/22/2009 11:17:40 AM

    As someone who has lived in Detroit for the last 51 years (by choice) I can tell you that this comparison is indeed not fair. While the devestating effects of white flight are painfully obvious everywhere, what we have now is upper and middle-class black flight as well. While there are still small "villages" within Detroit where some of us persevere, I'd bet that 600,000 of Detroit's remaining population of 900,000 is funtioinally illiterate. Education, among black youth, is viewed as a requisite evil and not as a means to an end: Forr all too many, evil itself is now their menas to an end. Until this mind-set changes, things in Detroit will only get progressively worse.

  • Posted By: Ecomcon @ 06/15/2009 4:34:53 PM

    A number of writers on this site make very good points. I appreciate Howard Fineman's work in general, but I think he's off-base on a number of issues. Firstly, I don't think you can compare either the cities (Detroit and Pittsburgh) nor their primary industries (automobiles and steel, respectively). Anyone who was old enough in 1967 remembers the terrible riot in Detroit in 1967, in which 43 people died and 1187 were injured. The city literally has not recovered from that summer 42 years ago. Do we still want to point a finger at the few people who initiated that riot with everything bad that has happened in Motown since then? I think most people would admit that the big U.S. automaker executives made some big mistakes over the years. But anyone who reads automotive periodicals or websites knows that American quality has increased substantially in the last few years. If you don't agree with that, I certainly understand that you won't purchase an American vehicle. But while the American manufacturers have continued to rise in ratings such as J.D. Power, Toyota has had its quality problems, including major engine sludge problems and trucks that rust out underneath. Further, the average MPG of U.S.-based manufacturers continues on the rise, whereas the figures for Toyota and Honda have dropped, in large part because of the huge trucks that those manufacturers have added.

    Some on the right blame unions, but they tend to overlook that fact that Japanese manufacturers have been subsidized right along, and that Toyota's hybrid Synergy drive was developed as a partnership between industry and the Japanese government.

    Further, as HalcyonBlue points out, Detroit has a population of 837,000 (it was once over 2 million) while Pittsburgh has a population of less than 300,000. Pittsburgh, being a smaller city, was able to diversify its economy more quickly, where Detroit, which once depended almost exclusively on the auto industry, was more like a large ship that could not possibly change its course quickly. In that comparison, Pittsburgh was much more like South Bend, which was a model of diversification when Studebaker ceased its operations there in 1964.

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