MichaelX, are you allowed out in civilized company?
James Von Brunn may have acted on his own, but he's hardly alone.
MichaelX, are you allowed out in civilized company?
Nazis, neo-nazis, white-hooded freaks...what race are these idiots??? In their twisted hearts and minds, what race is supposed to be the "pure" race??? Of course these kinds of hate crimes are going to be perpetrated by whites...somehow these perverts believe that skin color defines pureness...though their hearts are full of wickedness, deceit, hatred, and ignorance. Their skin color is not the problem...their perverted ideologies are the problem.
You just gotta laugh when white Americans talk about being "pure". Is anybody in this country a "pure" race? Heck, we've been interbreeding ever since the pilgrims came over on the Mayflower.
Michael X - your attempt to sound rational and intelligent is pretty convoluted. Go back and read your post, think about it for at least 25 seconds (I'm not going to ask much more of you then that) and then please tell me why you felt the need to retract what you said in your second post (although to you im sure it wasnt a retraction, but it sure looks like it)! You have advocated the end of racism? Really Martin Luther? Where did you do that exactly, when you called the Jew a fat whiney creature?
All I can think of is surley not Gay sex - but you took the simpleton route out (as usual, for people like you) and instead of responding to my argument you chose to focus on my one-line humor oriented comment that I made at the very end of my post? How strange and uncommon (sarcasm).
In Mumbai a few months ago gunman attacked a Jewish center and killed a few people before being killed themsleves - that was called terrorism and nobody argued differently, in DC 2 weeks ago the same thing happened and its not terrorism? - explain please? Were the Mumbai attackers not racist as well, is that a prerequisite for avoiding the terrorist label, you need to be a racist; therefore not a terrorist?
Or can White people, or white Americans simply not be terrorists?
For the sake of circumvating your easy route out of an intelligent response Im going to leave all humor out of this post and give you no choice but to respond to my actual points. Good Luck - and a word of wisdom, read your previous posts before responding.
The press has jumped all over this incident as the poster for hate crimes - and it was a hate crime but why does it deserve all of the outrage in comparison to the other recent incidents. It bumped the Tiller incident in pages of commentary and hours of jabbering on the cable channels. What they have studiously avoided is coverage of the two young soldiers who were ambushed by a Muslim convert in broad daylight in front of a recruiting station. It was dismissed in a day and there was never any wailing in the press about it being a hate crime. These two young men signed a blank check with their lives to defend the country when they enlisted. The death of one and the severe wounding of another obviously didn't merit the attention of the press.
The comment by the brilliant brydges down there that liberals use rascism as a war cry when they have no argument is pretty funny considering that the guy attacked a holocuast musuem and killed a black guy AND was a proud and very loud racist!?!
What this and Dr. Tiller's murder was is called TERRORISM (I'm sure you drank it up under Bush) think about it, if the guy was Arab dont you think FOX News would have had a terrorism bonanza that day? And if I am correct here isnt terrorism when you use violence for no other purpose but a) because your fundamentalist religous values told you to (Christain, Muslim, Whatever) or b) to scare people into doing or not doing something that you currently dont like (abortion) ? You and MichealX should just F*ck each other if you havent already.
HAHAH Michael your comment was so retarded that it doesnt warrant a response, however I will add that most American Jews feel no connection to Isreal because they have lived here for 100 years. Do you feel a connection to Ireland or whatever sh*t hole your family crawled out of 150 years ago? Even besides that if you did some research you would see that many American Jews actually donate tons of $ to Isreal and send their kids there to learn the history and culture. Your pathetic and probably a simple loser so your jelousy shines through pretty easily bud. Its easy to hate those in Malibu and the Hollywood Hills when your in a double wide trailer in Bumble f*ch Aarkansas, ha!
I believe that the vast majority of white americans would love to do what von Brunn did. I have participated in a study that revealed many around the country feel this way.
Tampa Florida is a Nazi haven as is Pittsburgh, PA
Unbelievable but it is very true
Most of these people also listen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity so I think it s safe to say that they do share some responsibility for the actions of these nuts.
I am not a racist and I hate having to say that white people are doing this but the numbers show that there is a growing threat and we have to look here in our own back yard
Wait......Your tag is "whitesrtheproblem" and you say your not a racist? Your a pure oxymoron, that's awesome! What a perfect liberal......................... Should we talk about the african American crime rate?
You must be a Neo Nazi
typical
The liberal battle cry - when my argument is ignorant and unfactual I call the other person a racist
You are the one wh is being typical and pathetic at that
"Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino"
Always a hoot to hear from the "Director" since he's also the entire staff of the "Center".
The website hasn't been updated since 2001 and, unlike every other center at CSU/SB, which have university e-mail addresses, the "Center's" e-mails go straight to Levin's free AOL account. (http://hatemonitor.csusb.edu/index_old.html)
Also, you'd be pretty hard pressed to find any peer reviewed research by the "Center's" staff, although there are several public relations press releases informing the media that "CSU/SB professor available to comment on [insert "hate" cause du jour here]" floating around.
Levin learned from the best during his years with the SPLC. All you need to sound authoritative is a good by-line on your letterhead. Some "expert".
As a Jewish American I have observed much more anti semitism from the left than ever existed from the right in this country. I deplore the right wing bigotry of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Pat Buchanan and cannot watch or listen to them but I find that left wingers love targeting the right while they espouse anti-semitism against Jews and conspiracy theories about 911 against their own government. Although I voted for Gore and Kerry and was an enthusiastic supporter of Obama, I found the vitriol from the left every bit as nasty as that from the right. Bush was a very bad President but the hatred that came from the lips and pens of the left was revolting. One would have thought they were speaking and writing about Adolf Hitler or Pol Pot of Cambodia.
The left wingers lambast the Fox News commentators and Limbaugh, Beck, and Coulter while at the same time keep silent or justify the recent comment by Reverend Wright that the reason he has not spoken with President Obama since he became President is because ???Them Jews won???t let me get near him.??? The truth that the left wing refuses to own up to is that anti-semitism in the Black community is prevalent and common place. The Democratic Party is the only party I have voted for the past forty years but I find much more anti semitism in that party than exists in the Republican Party.
Yes, the Republican Party is going to be a minority party for a generation if they keep up their obsession with denying rights to Blacks, Gays, Women, and Hispanics and denying global warming exists, and yes, most of their most prominent spokespersons spew anger and hate but before the Democrats cast all their aspersions and blame towards the Republicans they need to ask themselves why they defended (and still defend) the anti-American, anti-semitic tirades and sermons of Reverend Wright and support, justify, or excuse acts of hatred and terror by groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah, and why they have a problem with the words ???Islamic terror.??? The Democrats continue to try and convey to the American people the feeling that there is no such thing as terrorism or hatred against any group if you are not a member of the Republican Party. The sad truth is that although the idiots on the right like Coulter, Beck and Limbaugh get all the publicity they do not have a monoply on hate speech, rhetoric and bigotry. Democrats need to look in the mirror. The left is no better than the right when it comes to bigotry and hatred.
The deniers should move out of the country, go find an island.
The Nazi and other terrorist who use guns, put them in jail or send them to the same island. No freedom of speech for hate speech and criminals who promote criminal activities.
Who needs this idiots, they are not Americans, they are a dubious breed of low life ignorant crappy nobodies.
This nation is a nation for all people of the world, it was since the beginning and always will be.
Get over it.
Ah, but it is our duty as American citizens to not only tolerate their nonsense, but to protect their ability to do so. However, when the case is "criminals who promote criminal activity" we must crush their activity as the law requires. You kind of made a nice dividing line there. Hate speech = we tolerate. Criminal activity (involving that hate) = karate chop.
Conant is another of these species of one-sided doyens who mutters pronouncments down from a SLPC -style Olympus and expects us all to go along with the idea that the whole deal is concocted at Klan barbeques in order to go after the ''Jews''
But not so fast. When Obamas Man In Chicago, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright begins blaming ''The Jews'' for not being able to speak to His Holiness,and on the same day as these shootings, where does he fit in with Conants preconceptions? Where was Conant when the quite reasonable -appearing Walt and Meirsheimer [ used by NEWSWEAK as a guest contributor no less], begin ,no differant than a Klan screed, of blaming the nefarious ''AIPAC'' for pulling the political wires of a whole nation? How are such respectable appearing tomes recieved by the ''neo-Nazis'' Eve? [AIPAC being a typical STORMFRONT target].
''Iraq would not have been invaded but for the Jewish communities support''
Remarks. Democrat Rep. Jim Moran [Va].Apr. 30,2003.[who later added that ''AIPAC was becoming too powerful in this country''].
''I''ll tell you who is to blame. The Jews. J-E-W-S'',
Father of Democrat Rep. Cynthia McKinney [Ga] blaming these for her congressional defeat,Nov. 05,2002.
The Spring 2002 incursion by the Israelis into Gaza set off sympathetic protests here in the US.
But it was not ''neo-Nazis'' and Klansmen who engaged in a two week spree of terrorizing Jewish students at both UC Berkeley and San Francisco State, that included beatings,window smashings of campus Jewish studies centers [HILLAL] ,swastika- grafitti or bearing signs observing that ''Hitler Didn't Finish The Job''.
It was campus leftwingers ,the polar opposite of the neos in all but their hatred of the Jews.
''Obama will end decades of Zionist control in America''
Remarks, The Rev. Jesse Jackson Oct.13,2008
Make absolutely no mistake. Conant is dishonest in her applications that somehow excise African-Americans [where anti-Semitism continues to be a real problem] and the American left from the ongoing troubles of anti-Semitism in this nation. The Klan did not create the ''Freddies Fashion Mart Massacre'' in 1995 that left several Jews in Harlem dead. That deal was rabble-roused by the ''Rev'' Al Sharpton. Nor did they propel an anti-AIPAC screed to the top of the NY Times best seller list. Nor did they seek common cause with radical Islamic student unions in order to demonize the Jewish people.[ As recently as last month, UCLA and other national universities removed from their student unions websites offensive language calling upon ''believers'' to kill Jews when confronted with the evidence by conservative and Jewish American David Horowitz who was himself attacked while trying to deliver a speech at COLUMBIA University in 2008].
Conant thus views from a 90-degree angle when she whould be using 360.
www.adl.org ''Schooled In Hate''.
The New York Post Oct 14,2008 : ''The Obama Jesse Knows''
This is really interesting. I didn't know the ancestors of Jeremiah Wright and Jesse Jackson developed the United States 300 year-old slavery system that helped build the American economy and terrorized and murdered African Americans by hangings, burning of churches and homes and destroying whole communities (e.g., Rosewood) during racial segregation. I didn't know they were responsible for racist terrorist cells that terrorize other communities, blow up buildings and murder leaders who work for justice and peace for all of humanity. When did their words ever inspire acts of racism that really should be defined as a mental illness, particularly when such acts lead to a constant mindless state of negatively labeling others and discounting their humanity? Wright and Jackson can say what they want just as white supremacist can, but the African American community does not give birth to continuous active and mindless racist terrorism that have been going on in this country since the founding of America. They know better.
I think Mr. Lee Holmes kinda said it all there.
Furthermore, where the hell were ''Jews'' involved with ''Rosewood''?
Or the Klan?
Or any other WS organization or other that aims racism at African Americans?
Why would black leaders jump on white supremacist bandwagons?
Was AIDS a ''Jew consipiracy'' as advanced by Kwame Ture ? [Stokley Charmichael,who should have damned well knew better]
Are Jews sinister ''diamond merchants'' and ''white interlopers'' as advanced by Al Sharpton?
Are Jews ''bloodsuckers'' as advanced by Louis Farrakhan and his entire Nation of Islam?
Is New York City a ''Hymietown'' as advanced by Jesse Jackson?[ and are these Jews a portion of a vast international conspiracy also embraced as recently as last year by this man?]
Are Jews ''The Killers Of Christ'' as advanced by black Democrat opponants to Jewish American Steve Cohens [D-Tn] re-election campaign in 2008?
What have Jews done to either white or black extremists that would get them this worked up? Bad enough that whites would engage in this crap. But blacks ,like the Jews,have felt the lash, and thus should know better than to buy into the worst stereotypes advanced by the white supremacists.
Ahh but PEACE. What you forget is that the majority of Jewish-Americans from the 1600s onwards were OPPOSED TO SLAVERY in this nation.
studio audience: forgive the caps but this nonsense must be called out and put in its place.
Indeed, Jews were among the first of the early ''abolitionists'' long before the very word was coined in America,thus.
What business do the Sharptons, Farrakhans, Jacksons and Wrights of the world have in condemning and engaging in, anti Semitism ? Thus they do not really ''know any better''. They and the white anti-Semites are two horns on the same goat.
also see:
Davis, David Briton ''Slavery And Human Progress'' [ The Jews In Europe and America] Oxford University Press, 1989.
Cohen,Bennett and Sanders,Prentice ''The ZEBRA Murders.A Season Of Killing,Racial Madness,And Civil Rights'' Arcade Publishing, 2006.
Posted By: babylonandonandon @ 06/12/2009 2:18:56 PM
another product of Fox News...
Thus Also Sprach Krugman, in todays NY Times article ''The Big Hate''
Krugman,known for his brilliance as an economist is a rabble-rousiog moron when he becomes all socially liberal on us . As with Taligunner Joe McCarthy back in the 1950s, Krugman advances new Red Scares lining FOX up in his partisan sights that have not a damned thing to do with providing ''impetus'' to these gunmen [anymore than defenders of a Letterman advance theories that all was in good humour and that Palin ''deserves what she gets'' [ a line actually taken up by the lefty nutroots which you can view at the conclusion of this post]. This hysteria should be beneath the Nobel Krugman, but he is as apparently infected as everyone else.
www.hotair.com June 12,2009.
another product of Fox News...
Now that Rush has explained that we liberals are in fact responsible for the Holocause, I can read history in a whole new light.
Yes, the holocaust actually happened...newsflash!!! My early ancestors got the hell out of Germany and moved to the USA around the time of WWI. They knew what going on with Hilter's evil schemes. Much gratitude goes out to all the brave military men and women who fought and won against evil.
I'm confused....maybe it's just me.....but between work, family, friends, enjoying the outdoors, helping my neighbors, having parties for people I love, learning a new instrument, creating art, learning a new language, exercising, reading.....you get the point.....where OH WHERE do these people find the TIME to hate others so much? People they don't even know and probably will never meet?
You would have to actively schedule time for something like that.
I can just see it now. Scene from a typical hate extremist family:
MOM: "Alright kids, tonight we're going to practice putting razor blades in apples......and tomorrow morning I want you up bright & early....you know tomorrow is our usual throwing of rice to the little birds in our yard (evil laugh of all children in family)."
FATHER: "Yes, and then your mother & I have important work to do on the computer all day. We simply must update our hate blog with our newly photoshopped pictures. The ones of me and yer mamma posing as Jews doing terrible things to innocent whites in our neighborhood. Like stealing all their yard sale money and donating it to Doctors Without Borders. We must also play conspiracy theory together while you children are at school learning wasteful things like art & math. You make yer daddy proud at school today. Make your teacher cry at least once by using a racial slur directed toward her & you better beat up a little pre-kindergartener on the playground or you'll have to deal with ME tonight...ya hear?" "
Hating others isn't some special skill to be proud of. Anyone can hate. Even children can learn to hate. It takes no education, no strengths, no hard work. So what are these people so proud of? To have brought nothing but a standard human emotion to a new high level? Wow, so. amazing. so. special.
It is still sometimes a surprise to me that there are still those out there who maintain the belief that there is a "pure" race or even that they are superior in any way for any reason. The concept that truly blows my mind is that of a "Holocaust Denial" group or meeting. To even label such a group or gathering as such is to openly admit that there is something that you are denying. This is a perfect example of the ignorance exuded by the members of such groups and attendees of such gatherings. I understand that these beliefs are deep seeded and can be argued back and forth until both parties are blue in the face but I just can't find a belief or way of life based on, surrounding and consumed by hate to be a healthy and productive one. Freedom of speech is one thing, believing that you have the right to take away someone else's pursuit of happiness is sheer madness.
What I do not understand is how, in the face of goo-gobbers of evidence, do Holocaust deniers do just that - deny that what happened, did not happen? Haven't they seen the film shot of the liberation of the various concentration camps? Do they believe that the U.S. gov rounded up hundreds of male anorexics, stuffed them into ragged clothing, in make believe concentration camps? Do they think thousands of survivers had their arms tattooed with numbers as an all inclusive gag? Honestly, I understand what the deniers imply, but I do not understand how they ignore the obvious point that the Holocaust DID HAPPEN.
It's OK, Newsweek, you CAN say "right-wing", can't you? Or will that get your owners all hot and bothered?
It's funny when liberals bash the most ridiculous liberal media outlet for not being liberal enough.
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