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Could a public insurance plan spell the end of private insurance companies?

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  • Posted By: freecitizen @ 06/23/2009 1:34:55 AM


    Dear Senator or congressperson X

    We've come to realize that NOBODY in Washington, Democrat or Republican, has the courage or common decency to do what's needed in the way of providing us with a REAL healthcare delivery system to replace the corporate health care denial system now in place.

    EVERYBODY knows the numbers, even your long slumbering constituents by now. Even you must realize by now that we just can't get to where we need to go by letting the corporate marketplace set the price of health care in this country. We've had the sixty years since the end of WWII to experience and compare the "efficiencies of the free market" with the Health care systems that every other modern nation put in place after the war. When it comes to health care we are the pathetic laughing stock of entire planet. Having clear examples to choose from there is only one answer a rational human being can make, WE WANT WHAT THEY'VE GOT.

    But there you sit in Washington on our dime and completely unable to bring yourselves to utter the words single payer or national, or public in any context regarding this live and death issue. Why is it that you think that we Americans are so wedded to greed and selfishness, and so unable to trust each other, that we are singularly incapable of aspiring to work together for the common good?

    I learned in the Navy never to pee off the bow of a fast moving ship, but even on this great ship going absolutely nowhere fast, I have the distinct feeling I'm just pissing in the wind. There are no words; there is no logic; and the blazing galaxy of obvious facts that surround us have little effect in your world of the bought and sold. You've let the Wall Street guys hold us for ransom and walk away with trillions. In the health care domain you've let them literally kill a fair number of us in their ruthless profit driven process. But, we are coming to the end of the line. We've surrendered all we have to give and there is no more room to wiggle. You have this one last chance to redeem yourselves.

    We've given you the tools and all you need is the courage to do what's right. Sadly from what I've seen on C-SPAN there seems to be little chance you'll rise to the occasion. I'm too old to do much beyond writing this futile letter, but you underestimate the real anger building out here at your peril. Loosing your majority and your seat in congress will be the least of your worries. THIS IS THE TEST that will reveal the nature of our government and our very civilization. Health care has taken on a symbolic importance that goes even beyond the numbers and their serious life and death ramifications. IF we can't make this so-called democracy work FOR us THIS time around, the essential, enduring bonds between this people and this government will have been broken and as with the young folks in Iran things are likely to get real ugly quick.

    Sincerely,

    • Posted By: wiccanwolfess @ 08/15/2009 12:43:12 PM

      Posted By: wiccanwolfess @ 08/15/2009 11:14:41 AM
      Abraham Lincoln, 1856, said this:
      The government, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.
      We tried amending it in the last election -- seems to me that leaves only one option.

  • Posted By: rszekely @ 06/18/2009 3:52:20 PM

    "Managed Competition" is the core precept of Tom Daschle's book on the health-care crisis, and it is a viable "Third Way". What these proposals will do is reign the unemcumbered abuses that they insurers have placed on their beneficiaries, so that they can maximize profits, while minimizing benefits.

    • Posted By: wiccanwolfess @ 08/15/2009 11:14:41 AM

      Abraham Lincoln, 1856, said this:
      The government, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.
      We tried amending it in the last election -- seems to me that leaves only one option left.

  • Posted By: MichaelX @ 07/14/2009 4:52:24 PM

    Great cartoon on Daryl Cagles pages. Telling government that they will get the same health plan as they try to pawn off on us.
    How to get that to become a reality?

  • Posted By: MichaelX @ 07/06/2009 6:42:32 PM

    Yah, my HMO plan at work pays through the nose for me, merely because Im over fifty.
    I've used it little, but now have had a hernia operation, my cost:$340.
    BP meds! $90 a month!, Then here, try these, $60 a month! With my deductable payed they will only be $25 now, but guess what? Im going back to the VA, and they will be free. My plan=No vision/dental. VA=small co-pay, compllete coverage worth it!

  • Posted By: unionave @ 07/02/2009 11:24:38 PM

    Insurance problems are not the real problem with health care . The real problem are the charges over and above what the insurance pays . Public option and single payer are insurance programs and with them the bankruptcies will continue because it is not the insurance companies billing the patients . It's the health care providers who know what the insurance covers and bill the patients beyond that amount . If the single payer or public option does not cover the complete provider billing then this will be an effort in futility .

  • Posted By: MichaelX @ 06/18/2009 3:46:23 PM

    My company pays 100% of my health costs, and were hit hard when I became 55. I refused to have anything taken out of my pay for it, and as such, do not get a raise anytime soon. Luckily,{maybe, maybe not} I still have VA coverage.
    Letting "the big boys" hash out this "reform" is a joke. THEY are the ones who caused all this rampant excessiveness in the industry because they all have a piece of the pie! Doctors feel they are entitled, and "owed" the exobitant feesbecause of all the hard work and stuff they had to go throiugh. You wanted the job, so be the good doctor, and stop "needing" so much!

  • Posted By: fausthaus @ 06/13/2009 1:04:48 AM

    Hah! I love it when people say getting a nationalized health care plan will result in long waits and rationed care. I've got Blue Cross through a large, prestigious university, and when I had a fast-growing lump near my lymph nodes I was told it would be over a two month wait until I got an appointment. Health care is "rationed" already by the insurance companies who deny claims whenever they can! It's time to take the profit motive out of medicine (or at least out of insurance). And I don't want to hear about how horrible "socialized" medicine is in other countries; when I was in Germany and fell ill, I was seen the same day by a physician who didn't charge me my life's blood just to be seen.

  • Posted By: alexz @ 06/12/2009 6:53:06 PM

    So, the 'health insurance' industry could be put out of business by real competition from a public plan. Many would say, So, what? For a half century, these enterprises have held the American people hostage to what amounts to the greatest protection racket in history: A monopoly so perfectly constructed as to force the american people to pay ruinous premiums to these gatekeepers or face the 'choice' of death or complete ruin in the event of a major illness or injury. Particularly amusing is the scare tactic proffered that 'government bureaucrats' would be making heath care decisions:And who do we suppose makes them now? Corporate bureaucrats, whose sole purpose is to deny claims, that's who. The business model
    depends on it : Maximized premiums-minimized claims=profit. The rest of the western industrialized world has long recognized this extortion scheme for what it is, and at a minimum, provided public competition (France, Germany, et.al), and at a maximum, (Canada), given this criminal enterprise the legal status it deserves. The time has long since passed that we catch up with the civilized world and develop a health system whose purpose is delivery, not denial. Contact your representative in congress and demand that he/she support the President's proposal to provide real competition to this cartel with a public plan.

  • Posted By: alexz @ 06/12/2009 5:40:47 PM

    So, the private 'health insurance' companies could be put out of business?. Many would say, So What? For the last half century, these people have run what amounts to nothing more than a legalized protection racket: A monopoly so perfectly constructed that every American is forced into a position where they must pay the ruinous 'protection' to these gatekeepers or face a choice of death or complete ruin when faced with a major illness or accident. Particularly amusing is the scare tactic claiming that health decisions would be relegated to 'bureaucrats'. Who do folks think make these decisions now? Legions of corporate bureaucrats whose primary purpose is to deny claims---This is a function of the very nature of the business model: to collect the maximum premiums possible while minimizing claims paid=profit. The rest of the western world has long since put this scheme in it's place, by, at a minimum, offering a public option, as in France and Germany among others, and more comprehensively, Canada, which has given this criminal enterprise the legal status it deserves.
    It is time for the public to finally stand up to these extortionists and demand that their representatives support the creation of a 'public option' whose purpose is the delivery of access to health care rather than serve as an obstacle whose sole purpose is to extract profits.

  • Posted By: Dolmance @ 06/11/2009 7:29:00 PM

    If they have to be dishonest in their ads, you have to assume they're dishonest period. And guess what? They are.

    • Posted By: mphcpa @ 06/12/2009 5:09:07 AM

      And of couse Newsweek is always "Honest" in their reporting of the "Facts"!

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