The Accidental Slumlord

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  • Posted By: ALEMON @ 06/20/2009 3:40:49 PM

    I HAVE NOT MEANT A LANDLORD YET. THE ONES I DEALT WITH BECAME SLUMLORDS AS SOON AS THEY CLOSE THE DOOR THE FIRST ONE I TOOK TO COURT YOU KNOW THE COURT IS ALWAYS ON THE LANDLORD/SLUM SIDE. HE WOULD SHOW UP AT THE DOOR ON THE FIRST OR BEFORE THEN IF HE WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MADE PLENTY PROMISES NEVER KEPT ONE. SECOND LANDLORD SHE THE LANDLORD FROM HELL WHEN SHE WENT TO WORK SHE WOULD TURN THE HOT WATER OFF YOU GOT HEAT IN JAN WHICH SHE WOULD TURN OFF WHEN SHE WENT TO WORK,L&I SITED HER ON 19 THINGS THAT HAD TO BE FIXED BUT ITS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW ITS WHO AND IT WAS NOT EVEN HER PROPERTY AND SHE HAD NO RENTERS LICENSE I FOUND OUT LATER IT RAIN IN THE APARTMENT SO SHE GOT IT FIX ON THE INSIDE DUH I STARTED PUTTING IN ESCROW AND SHE TOOK ME TO COURT I GUESS SHE WOULD INTERCERT THE MAIL SO NATURALY I GOT EVICTED AND HAD TO LEAVE MY SUFF SO I RETURN TO COLLECT MY THINGS 15 DAYS LATER AND SHE WAS RESPONISABLE FOR IT AND SHE ROBB ME OF 50,000 THOUSAND PLUS WORTH OF THINGS, OLD COINS DATED 1800 STAMPS PRESIDENT PICTURES SIGNATURES INVITE TO OTHER PRESIDENTS ALL THE WAY BACH TO THE TRUMANS SPORTS CARD SETS FROM THE 60S AND 70S SHE WAS A MESS THEN THE NEXT LANDLORD WE MADE A RENT TO OWN AGREETMENT FOR 55,000 AND IT TOOK 2 YEARS TO GET A STOVE EVERYONE SHE HIRE TO DO WORK SHE FIRE BEFORE THEY FINISH SHE NEVER WANT TO GIVE YOU A RECEIPT ALWAYS WANTED HER MONEY IS CASH THEN SHE DIED NERVER GOT THE DEED FROM HER AND AFTER SHE DIED I REALIZED SHE DIDN'T OWN THE PROPERTY IT WAS A FAMILY MEMBER THAT DIED 30 YEARS AGO SO I THINK I MAKE THE TOP TEN SLUMLORD LIST. ONE DAY I MIGHT GET A WORKERABLE HOUSE.

  • Posted By: Frank909 @ 06/20/2009 1:11:59 PM

    This is the state of our country, EVERYBODY is diabled and needs that Govt check. Most people in this country go from welfare to ssdi or ssi and never get a job throughout their lives. Until our Govt stops this abuse there will be too many scumbags on "entitlement" and not enough people working to support their lazy lifestyle.

    • Posted By: emerson33 @ 06/20/2009 3:40:47 PM

      Do you try to culivate stupidity, or is it just natural? Your statement is so ignorant and uninformed. Just FYI, the new welfare system only allows for five years of monetary support in a lifetime. In the current economy, some people who had $50 an hour jobs are on the dole right now. Don't fault them for utilizing the system they have paid into for years. You should be ashamed.

    • Posted By: kmorris209 @ 06/20/2009 3:35:01 PM

      What does any of your comments have to do with this article?

  • Posted By: mickrussom @ 06/20/2009 12:51:36 PM

    Obama and his cabal of bankster-bootlickers will end America with suicidal stupid spending and ridiculous policies that our

    main competitors in BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China) are not burdened by. The world is about survival, and the USA is

    not well positioned after a few short months of that fraud/imposter OBAMA. The OBAMA DECEPTION must end! "Already long ago,

    from when we sold our vote to no man; the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time; handed out

    military command, high civil office, legions - everything, now; restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things:

    BREAD AND CIRCUSES" (Juvenal, Satire 10.77???81) (c. 150AD)

    • Posted By: kmorris209 @ 06/20/2009 3:40:10 PM

      Obama is doing more for this country then our former president. If you don't like it leave.

  • Posted By: emerson33 @ 06/20/2009 3:38:42 PM

    So reprehensible. The "accidental" is crap. No way did he not walk into this situation choosing to be a slumlord. He bought a house in shambles and left it that way, feeding off the desperation of low income people and not caring that their health is in jeopardy because he is a cheap elitist. $213 on carpet is not even close to what needs to be done, but he walked away believing he was justified and didn't have to do anything else. Toxic mold, anyone? The water damage should have been treated, the walls treated with antibacterial paint, and new plumbing installed. This writer for Newsweek gives the magazine a bad name. He should be treated like Joe Pesci in the movie "slumlord" and forced to live in the rattrap he is so proud to own until he repairs everything that needs to be done.

  • Posted By: emerson33 @ 06/20/2009 3:33:38 PM

    I can believe that a long distance landlord could be unaware of the conditions to begin with, but he stayed in the same mindset after he viewed the property. $213 in carpet does not address the real issue. There was no accidental in you becoming a slumlord. You bought a property in disrepair and left it that way. Over time it was destined to only get worse. The property should have been fumigated, treated for mold, and antibacterial paint placed on the walls to protect against the mold that most certainly is in the building from the faulty plumbing. And, FYI, basic repairs such as carpet cleaning and leaky faucets fall to the tenant, but major issues are your job as the owner. You are a disgusting example of an elitist who wanted a quick income property to add to his status. No way should you be allowed to profit from your nastiness. Newsweek should let you out of your contract. You sully the reputation of the magazine. You excuses are typical of the current attitude of our society, and you have no business utilizing Kennedy quotes or experiences to bolster your perspective. Life is unfair, but it is the responsibility of those more fortunate to take a stand and fix what they can. You choose not to, and instead perpetuate your disease. Shame on you.

  • Posted By: chester1818 @ 06/20/2009 1:17:54 PM

    It is the tenant's responsibility to keep the place clean as best he can. The play station could have been turned into cash to buy a clean flooring replacement for his(Will's) son to crawl across. Can't the girlfriend clean/

    Which brings me to another point. Prioritization. First comes marriage then comes baby in the baby carriage. Hello world!!
    Then you have to work a job and then clean your apartment and the outside too!! I've rented for years and small repairs were always MY(the tenant's responibility). The hole in the floor and any seeping sewage is a landlord responsibility and should be remedied promptly. However tenants should dispose the wrong items down toilets(sanitary napkins, towels) or excess toilet paper. Renting does not relieve the tenant of Benjamin Franklin's requirement for productive humans, that you must be clean in body, clothing and living condiitions. Furthermore Mr Franklin said to tolerate no uncleanliness-Its your responsibility to be clean and to clean up your space. Soap and water are cheap. Time is giiven equally to all. Spend time cleaning and less on the guitar and play station.

    • Posted By: kmorris209 @ 06/20/2009 3:13:22 PM

      You have no idea what you are talking about.

    • Posted By: kaenaalure @ 06/20/2009 2:08:14 PM

      Carpetting that has not been changed in years will remain dirty and disgusting no matter how many times a week you buy a steam-cleaner to clean it. They have a 1 yr old who most likely spill EVERYTHING on the floor. You can imagine juice, food, etc. And no matter how often you pick up, clean up and take care of it the wear and tear of years will be evident.

      Please do not make a judgement on the young couple because they chose to do things with their lives different from everyone else. Quite frankly my boyfriend and I have been together for nearly 5 yrs now. Neither of us had a great experience watching marraiges around us and have made us shy way from being married. Instead we chose to live together, start afamily and enjoy our commitment to each other without a peice of paper saying we're married.

      • Posted By: TMI72 @ 06/20/2009 2:37:25 PM

        It is a grand mistake to think of being great without goodness and I pronounce it as certain that there was never a truly great man that was not at the same time truly virtuous. --> Also spoken by Mr. Franklin, and something that the author fails at on almost every level. While I agree that the the couple is responsible to keep themselves and living quarters clean. However, they are NOT obligated to fix or make small repairs around their property (it's the land lord's investment, and anything that needs to be fixed and maintained is his responsibility). Too bad you didn't know that, or you could have saved yourself some totally wasteful expenditures. Ben Franklin also said: He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else...and it seems to be something the author could learn, b/c the couple may be behind on rent but at the end of the day, why should they pay for substandard housing? It's not a great situation (and not in support of how this couple has chosen to live their lives, at all)...however, this article was written from the perspective of someone who "accidentally" became a slum lord, yet is doing nothing except putting in some carpet at the end...instead of addressing all the issues of his property. Shame on Mr. McGinn for setting up an environment that only encourages MORE bad behavior from his very young, probably undereducated and already struggling couple.

  • Posted By: pacalis6 @ 06/20/2009 9:47:53 AM

    I am shocked and saddened by your arrogance and lack of compassion. It is an act of injustice to allow an infant to continue living in such conditions, It is also unconscionable! Is this the life you would choose for your child? Children are the future leaders of our country. How can we expect children to become well educated contributing members of society if they live in squalor? It takes a village to raise a child. As a member of that village you have turned your back!! You may have been an accidental slumlord, but now you are a true slumlord by choice!! I wonder how you sleep at night. I am equally shocked that Newsweek continues to employ and allow to represent them someone with such deplorable values and morals. I urge you to fix the homes of those people and gift them to them. It may hurt your pocketbook a little, but it should help to redeem your pride

    • Posted By: kaenaalure @ 06/20/2009 2:13:53 PM

      If you're so righteous and devout take out a couple grand and find a homeless person on the street and give it to him. That's what you're asking the author of this article to do.

      Please keep in mind, he has two homes, a family of his own and expenses of his own to keep up with. While i agree that it is horrible to know a baby is living in those conditions, he is not the parent of that child. It isn't his responsiblity to make a better life for him.

      Another note would also be made.... the only changes that really need to be done to that home is a seroius investment into upgrading appliances, changing the carpetting, exterminator and fixing any holes in the walls or floor. Everything else really is up to the tenants.

      • Posted By: coloradokaren @ 06/20/2009 3:05:09 PM

        Hey kaenaalure, you are an idiot too. I am the owner of my home, and have an out of state rental property, plus I have a family and plenty of bills of my own. But you can bet i will not allow my property to become rundown. The changes that need to be done in this house are massive and this yuppie, republican, only out for himself owner needs to get this property fixed. Don't tell me he doesn't have the money, i am sure he is bringing home a good salary in Mass. Probably has a job related to the stock market mess......

    • Posted By: kewscorner @ 06/20/2009 11:21:49 AM

      Your ideals are convient for you since you don't have to live with them. I'm pleased to read that a glad handing liberal such as your self is so well read that you could read between the lines "stating that it's the land lord's responsiblity to care for each of his own tenants as if they were his "FAMILY" memembers. It's NOT the landlords responsibility (leagaly or moraly) to care for their tentants in such a way that they are passing thier ideals of living on to others. I saw a bumper sticker that reminds me of your statement...."Piss off a Liberal, WORK HARDER"

      It's the parents of the child that should have been hanging their heads in shame, not the landlord. I know that "you can't make a sillk purse, out of a sow's ear". However you can make the best of a bad situation, and keep it clean enough for a child. That's the parents or the child or the GRANDPARENTS responsibility, NOT THE LANDLORDS!!!!

      GOD BLESS FREEDOM OF SPEECH....And DON'T THANK A LIBERAL FOR THAT....

      Single mom of 3 boys, who knows the meaning of scrapping by.

      • Posted By: pacalis6 @ 06/20/2009 12:43:12 PM

        Wow!! You sound pretty angry and the things that you say don't make any sense. How do you know what I have to live with? The author stated that the home with the family was clean but in disrepair. My point is that the repairs are his responsibility.. In addition, a child should not be allowed to live in a home that doesn't meet building codes. Young children are never responsible for the choices their parents make. Lastly, I am not liberal I am just someone who believes that we should all try to make a difference in the world, and at the very least not doing anything that makes a situation worse.

        • Posted By: kaenaalure @ 06/20/2009 2:17:19 PM

          I have an idea for you then... get the information for those people and send them the few thousand dollars to help them out... because quite honestly it is -not- anyone's but the parent's responsiblity (it's not even grandparents responsiblity) to make sure the baby has everything and can live in a clean respectable home. Quite honestly that young family could possibly find somewhere else to move to... save up their money literally scrap on by. I have to do that with my boyfriend and our infant but we get by. We make sure our landlord takes care of what he has to take care of and what we have to take care of we do.

    • Posted By: Scott from Texas @ 06/20/2009 11:03:43 AM

      When they can buy a $380 video game and not pay the rent? It may take a village, but not the village idiot.

      • Posted By: SteelWolf @ 06/20/2009 1:11:12 PM

        Who's to say the gaming system was not a gift? No where does it say that the tenant bought it.

    • Posted By: are_you_kidding @ 06/20/2009 10:56:17 AM

      Exactly what does a landlord owe to a tenant who is not paying their rent? Did you not read that this landlord replaced the carpet and linoleum for Bill, the tenant who had lived there for 15 year? Clearly, he made an effort to take care of the tenant who was paying rent, even though there was no benefit to himself. For the tenant not paying his rent, I say good bye.

  • Posted By: PegU @ 06/20/2009 2:59:19 PM

    I'm kind of surprised you didn't see this coming. How did you think a "profit" of a little over $100 a month was going to cover property taxes, insurance, and repairs? Who sold you on this idea? A thorough tenant screening goes a long way toward avoiding late rent payments and property damage, as does collecting a deposit prior to move-in day. Finally, you should never rely on a property manager to do all of the work for you. Don't buy a property unless you can make relatively frequent visits to check on its condition or unless you have a trusted friend or family member who can fulfill this role. Finally, tenant/landlord laws vary from state to state, and you should be aware of your obligations under these rules. These things are all simply common sense, and shouldn't require an education to figure out.

    I sense a tone of east coast elitism toward the people of Pocatello, Idaho. Having spent part of my life in that area, I'm a little dismayed at your portrayal of these people. I think your view is distorted by your limited experience. If you visit low rent districts in your area, you will also find uneducated people living in squalid conditions (the wealthy and educated can be pigs too).

    The story of a noob getting a reality check would be mildly amusing, if not for the repercussions of these kinds of investment decisions. The time to do the research is not after the fact. If you decide to continue in renting, check out information from people who have succeeded and follow their advice. A good place to start would be at clarkhoward.com.

  • Posted By: chieromancer@hotmail.com @ 06/20/2009 2:51:24 PM

    Daniel, it's obvoious you've never been a tenant, or you wouldn't be so surprised.

    Are you a doofus for not doing your homework? Absolutely..

    Are you required to clean up after tenants who don't pay their rent? Probably not.

    Are you supposed to some how know the conditon of your rentals? No, that's the job of the manager.

    Tenants have the responsibilty to notify the manager when something is broken. As it appears that did not happen, one can assume the tenants know they are pigs and don't want to be evicted.

    I don't think you are necessarily heartless or evil. Just stupid.

  • Posted By: m13905 @ 06/20/2009 8:38:07 AM

    I live in Binghamton, New York, a community like Pocatello that became a magnate for absentee landlords. I own one of the nicer looking places like those Mr McGurn observed around his rental. Slumlords like Mr. McGurn not only fail to provide thier tenants with a decent place to live they also destroy neighborhoods and communities. In my town, they have driven up housing values (not dramatically but slightly) enough that the number of owner occupants have declined. They have also crowded out the local landlords who often lived in the buildings they rented. The result is rapidly increasing decay that the slumlords profits from while the people in the community suffer. Many in this post blame the tenants. If a landlord keeps up his property and provides people with a decent place to live then he or she has a right to complain when a tenant fails to pay the rent or is destructive. But if like Mr Mc Gurn, you treat people like dirt and expect them to live in an apartment where the sewage overflows you are the definition of a slumlord.

    • Posted By: pagirl @ 06/20/2009 10:31:04 AM

      This is true. I'm from a small town in Pa. 2002 you could get a decent place for around $300-$400 a month, which was reasonable, as most people in this area are working in factories, and only make around $10 an hour. Now you look in the paper $700 a month + all utilities, $900/month + heat. All these big city people came out and bought up these properties because of the low prices. The thing is they just don't care what is going on on their property. I understand that as a landlord, you want to profit from your investments, but as a tenant, for me to pay you over 50% of my income each month, I should have a clean, quiet, safe place to live. I'm a single mother, and I work as a waitress while attending school so I can better my living situation. Yes, I could go live in the projects, but I chose to pay rent, to have my child grow up in a safe and decent environment. These slumlords have really brought the whole area down. They have people living in their property selling drugs, they don't care, they never come out to check. People in this area don't make that much money, so yeah, usually if someone could afford a $900/month rent, it's probably because they are selling dope. The local guy looks, and sees the guy up the street is getting $800/mo for his place, so he raised the rent on a place that's been $400 for years, up to $700. Then people like me have people looking at us and saying, oh, why don't you do something about your situation? Why don't you try to save money, buy a place, move, etc? How? How, when over 50% of our income goes to just putting a roof over our heads each month? It's just ridulous, and it makes me so angry. I don't mind paying if the landlord is willing to keep the place decent. This is the choice I made, and I feel it's in the best interest of myself and my child. But most of these people are motivated by PURE GREED, and do not care a thing about the tenants, the quality of life of the people in the community, or the negative effect they are having on the places where they buy these properties. More of these people should go out and take a good hard look at the places they bought, and really check into who's living there. They don't care if the people are doing or selling drugs, or wreaking havoc on their neighbors, as long as they get their check every month, and it is really a shame.

      • Posted By: new_york_night @ 06/20/2009 2:42:43 PM

        Well said, pagirl. Well said. Yes, most of us are caught in a vicious circle where you can't move. It is too easy from people like this writer, making money by the exploitation of his fellow citizens, to wag a finger and say you should do this, do that. But when you don't make enough money to even pay the movers, then the question is how? You are trapped. I am a very good renter, an excellent tenant who not only pays his rent on time, but has gone so far as to fully restore this pre-war New York apartment. What do I get in return? A corrupt system of systematically raising my rent constantly through "capital improvements" to the building. It goes like this, and I am even rent-stabilized! Hire your friend/crony and pay him "x." Have him give you a receipt for "y" which is much larger than "y" and give the "contractor/crony" a kickback for providing a bogus receipt. Submit receipt to state board. Make your tenants pay for sub-par, illegal work.
        Now, because I fight these increases and highlight this corrupt procedure, I am sure I have been blacklisted. The landlord always has the upper hand. And yes, it was absolutely this author's choice to buy this building. It is his responsibility to keep up the apartments AND it is his risk as to whether or not his investment will profit or not. REGARDLESS, he does NOT get to NOT maintain his property and fulfill all his obligations (flooring, sewage, safety, etc.) and in turn dump his responsibilities onto his tenants, who are already paying rent. He should be grateful he has had such long-term tenants who are only there because they are trapped, much like pagirl, and who have taken care of HIS property. As an absentee landlord who CHOSE to make a profit off the hard earnings of others and think that he could manage his property remotely and in reality fully neglect his property, he only deserves the worst tenants and a loss on his investment.

  • Posted By: mama-san @ 06/20/2009 2:37:38 PM

    well, darn. i didn't mean to double post, or mispell veteran. so sorry.

  • Posted By: mama-san @ 06/20/2009 2:36:30 PM

    wow, the author was soooo generous in replacing disgusting carpet and linoleum for a VETREAN of our country. nice. as for the baby, he left there knowing that child was crawling around on filth. how can he sleep @ night, knowing that? i've also had some slumlords, and no matter how hard i tried, the carpet (that they SWORE was cleaned before we moved in) could not be cleaned to a standard that was safe for my kids to play on. I realize the tenants have responsbilities, but they should not extend to structural repairs or carpet replacement, and some places require by law that carpets be changed ever 5 yrs in rentals. he should make sure he's in compliance w/ the local laws, or that property could wind up costing him even more than it is currently. perhaps the tenants should contact the local codes department, or legal aid.

  • Posted By: mama-san @ 06/20/2009 2:35:39 PM

    wow, the author was soooo generous in replacing disgusting carpet and linoleum for a VETREAN of our country. nice. as for the baby, he left there knowing that child was crawling around on filth. how can he sleep @ night, knowing that? i've also had some slumlords, and no matter how hard i tried, the carpet (that they SWORE was cleaned before we moved in) could not be cleaned to a standard that was safe for my kids to play on. I realize the tenants have responsbilities, but they should not extend to structural repairs or carpet replacement, and some places require by law that carpets be changed ever 5 yrs in rentals. he should make sure he's in compliance w/ the local laws, or that property could wind up costing him even more than it is currently. perhaps the tenants should contact the local codes department, or legal aid.

  • Posted By: coloradokaren @ 06/20/2009 2:30:40 PM

    another money-hungry yuppie trying to make money. This landlord should feel guilty - as the property owner it is his responsibility to keep this property up. Don't bring the neighborhood down, they don't want to live next door to your mess. Stupid yuppie.

  • Posted By: unemployed_in_San_Jose @ 06/20/2009 2:26:46 PM

    It was clearly apparent to me in reading the article that Mr. McGinn would not have bought the carpet and linoleum if he was writing the story. It was basically a ploy to show us how compassionate he is. Mr. McGinn in his lack of compassion for the down and outers doesn't understand that he himself may be a simple job loss away from their fate. Its not has if there are not armies of unemployed journalists at the moment. Thanks to immigrantion policies there are now armies of unemployed engineers, of which I have recently become one.

  • Posted By: PhoenixFiresky1 @ 06/20/2009 2:22:59 PM

    What someone who is accustomed to urban living with granite countertops might consider dingy is not necessarily the same as what those of us who don't live in such fancy surroundings would consider squalor.

    This was the landlord's first visit to the place, so I think he's entitled to a bit of a break. Also the condition of the housing wasn't indicated to be such that it was dangerous to the baby - just unattractive. And deciding which places a child should live is up to the parents, not the village. Apparently, there's plenty there for them to choose from, based on the article, if they don't like the conditions in the duplex.

  • Posted By: PhoenixFiresky1 @ 06/20/2009 2:13:38 PM

    Also, that property manager doesn't sound right to me. True, replacing carpets and such might not allow you to raise the rent IF the rent is already at the top of the charts for that type of rental. BUT having worn out carpet and linoleum will definitely make the property rent for LESS - so this manager is thinking about it wrong. Also, the author should note that the people who have made promises and not shown up, thus making tenants think the owner wouldn't show up for repairs either, are the managers THE OWNER HIRED! Sounds to me like that manager is not doing his job!

    There are some very good books out there on buying and renting real estate. The author really needs to investigate them, do some serious evaluation of the manager (by asking the tenants), and consider a few further basic improvements such as painting the units every couple of years. Also, finding out why that toilet keeps overflowing could save him a bundle on having to redo rotten floors.

    There's no conflict inherent with renting to people who don't have a lot of money. The housing is more basic, is all - not having granite countertops is one thing. Not having a functioning toilet is another.. You just have to make sure the property, basic though it might be, stays in good repair. Not rocket science.

    • Posted By: kaenaalure @ 06/20/2009 2:20:40 PM

      Here here... I agree with you one hundred percent Phoenix. Thank you for the well spoken and articulate response.

  • Posted By: stumpmonkey @ 06/20/2009 2:15:47 PM

    What kind of pansy metro thinking is it to say renting apartments is exploitive? Your tennant can't afford to live anywhere else. You are providing them with a place to live that fits their income. Please get over the liberal guilt you wussy.

  • Posted By: coryjayw @ 06/20/2009 1:22:43 PM

    Puh-leez people, the author simply made an investment in a rental property hoping for some steady income and possibly a profit in selling it down the road. This does not make him inhumane He also spent $200+ that evidently no other landlord before him would have done. The truth is that SOMEONE has got to own that property, and to keep the rent low so that the lower income families can afford the rent, he can't afford to give the place a complete makeover. Those tenants choose to live there and the conditions are no worse than they were before the new owner (the author) took over. I'd bet that if anyone else were in his shoes, they'd be handleing things very similarly. If you say to yourself "Well I'd never do it that way", you're probably not the type of person that would take the risk that he did. Greed? We're ALL greedy to a certain extent - I see it as an investment, albeit maybe not the wisest. He's obviously realizing that now and was attempting to express this in the article. Why must we constantly look down and critisize each other when we have not walked a mile in each others shoes? Everyone has their own reason for doing things, and according to them and their reality, it is completely justified. I say that it's not greed that is ruining the world, it is our unwillingness to try to see a situation from another's perspective - our intolerance of anyone that is different than us or has different beliefs. I'm sure the author would be happy to sell the property at fair market value (perhaps even for a little less) and would be elated for the new owner to "invest" an addtional $10K to renovate the place for the current tenants.

    • Posted By: TMI72 @ 06/20/2009 2:09:49 PM

      WOW...he spent a WHOLE $200??? I guess I should re-think my position that his failure to fix the appliances, sagging floors, bug infestations and plumbing issues on his property. I mean, he did replace carpet that didn't result in a profit, so sure...he's a total prince. The day that housing became an "investment" for someone other than a direct owner or a 1st person rental was the worst day of our free market. (Do you have any MBS's in your portfolio? if yes, then you already know why). As for selling at a moderate loss, it's does not resolve the current condition of the property, which sounds (by the author's own words) to be at best deplorable. What happened before...or could happen later...does not negate his obligations NOW.

  • Posted By: PhoenixFiresky1 @ 06/20/2009 2:00:25 PM

    How on earth can the author believe that severely worn carpet and linoleum DON'T detract from the property's value? OF COURSE replacing the worn flooring with new stuff increases the value of his property, at least, as long as he doesn't improve the property so much it's overimproved for the area. He seems to be having difficulty distinguishing the difference between things he can raise the rent for (new flooring should already be figured into the rent he charges) and things that increase the value of his property at SALE. Author, if you're out there, do some reading up on renovating real estate for sale, and also on "flipping" houses - it might help you out to know that stuff.

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