The Capitalist Manifesto: Greed Is Good

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  • Posted By: srahman @ 09/20/2009 8:11:43 AM

    There are too many factual errors or presupposition in this article. Poor result by Left leaning parties in Indian election being one. The Left parties (particularly in West Bengal) lost their majority not because of their anti-liberalization stand. It is rather in contrary to your argument, specifically, for their pro-market stance regards of giving up agricultural land to TATA and others for auto-industry and so forth. There is no doubt that capitalism is the most well practiced economic system around the world, but you have done a very sloppy job in regards of figuring out the reasons of very nature of crisis prone capitalism. It is not mere individual greed or some disjointed economic policies bring crisis, it is rather more well orchestrated strategy geared towards capital accumulation by few at the cost of many. In a nutshell, as David Harvey argues, the whole circus of capitalism seeks running with this mantra "accumulation by dispossession."

  • Posted By: Bolshie @ 07/30/2009 2:44:12 AM

    http://wsws.org/articles/2009/jul2009/zaka-j04.shtml
    A cutting resonse to Mr Zakaria's hand-wringing apology

  • Posted By: IMSnooping @ 06/16/2009 5:36:54 PM

    The problem is not capitalism -- the problem is the interference with capitalism in the search for something more "equitable" or "fair" in its distribution. It's this best-of-both-worlds hybrid which has failed us, not capitalism.

    Seems to me we just need to pick a side. I'd prefer the side of maximized economic liberty. But, then, liberty and responsibility are Siamese twins. And I'm not sure we're a world prepared to demand responsibility.

    I do, anyway, think we should stop besmirching capitalism by incorrectly saying that it's what did this. It was our reluctance to embrace capitalism which did this, when you get down to it.

    • Posted By: kwarlord @ 07/26/2009 10:08:00 PM

      why choose a side? You do realize that America isn't a pure capitalist society and nothing is ever "black or white" but simply "shades of grey". What we have is an outdated system, created in the 18th century and hasn't changed much since the 21st. What is really needed is a blending of several economic structures, with the majority of the system founded in a free market society (a.k.a. Capitalism)

    • Posted By: stelleen @ 06/19/2009 1:12:22 PM

      Rather than state what you THINK capitalism is, maybe you should read Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, which is the original manifesto of capitalism. You might be in for some surprises!

      • Posted By: kwarlord @ 07/26/2009 9:56:27 PM

        better yet, use the the search terms "Adam Smith" "Capitalist Manifesto" and "Principles of Economics"
        also, be wary of using one source (i.e. Wikopedia). and using more than one search engine would be advisable as well.

  • Posted By: kwarlord @ 07/26/2009 9:44:18 PM

    the original "Capitalist Manifesto" was created in 1958 by Louis O. Keslo and Mortimer J. Adler.
    "Wealth of Nations "was created by Adam Smith, a Scottish economist in 1776.
    Wealth of Nations advocated the free market economy, which is the foundation of capitalism (a term not invented during Mr. Smith's time). "The Capitalist Manifesto" was written in response to the "Manifesto of the Communist Party".

    for Mr. Zakaria to label his article as The Capitalist Manifesto, misleads the reader and borderlines on plagerism.

  • Posted By: johnuw93 @ 07/06/2009 12:30:57 AM

    Zakaria tells us this is not a crisis of capitalism. Then he describes a crisis of capitalism. He tells us at the outset markets are not about morality. Then he tells us what we need is a big dose of morality. He says not capitalism, not even finance, screwed up, but some financiers did. He concludes by telling us we are all somehow at fault and need a 'gut check' to see our way through.

    Mr. Zakraria is confused. He's smart enough to see systemic failure but ill equipped to draw the appropriate conclusions.

    • Posted By: JimF @ 07/18/2009 3:45:16 PM

      @Johnuw93. Well put. Zakaria seems best when dealing with the fuzzy sphere of international politics. Economics and finance, not so much.

      As for "more international cooperation" ameliorating problems; isn't that a key reason the "infection" in American banks spread so quickly to Europe? They're all so interlocked now that if anything goes wrong the whole house of cards goes down -- i.e. UBS is linked to CountryWide's subprime loans ?

  • Posted By: techie22 @ 07/13/2009 4:49:39 PM

    Those controlling the status quo use greed as their armor.
    They find their greedy freinds and they plot greedy takeovers
    of the unsuspecting. If a non greedy person actually makes
    some money or is close to making money, the scrum begins.

    Best bet, trust no one, verify repeatedly prior to trusting and
    when you can, find other people of conscience and help them.

  • Posted By: kosterbatmeredith @ 07/01/2009 10:23:01 AM

    Zakaria nails it, that the fault lies within the rules we have laid out for the game. In the game of Monopoly we understand that cheating is not required for economic disaster, i.e. one rich person and everyone else homeless. Why is that so hard here? Low interest rates have wrecked the capital in capitalism. We know personally that reserves are necessary. If a friend asks for $100 until next week, you know they are in trouble. But banks and big companies do it with 'paper' to meet payroll, basic inventory. They save nothing. The cost of borrowing has to be allowed float up to equilibrium. ... which means that the government needs to get out of the business of setting the rates, and yes, I mean, the government needs to stop borrowing.

  • Posted By: kodiakkodiak @ 06/25/2009 1:53:21 PM

    your call for self-regulation is clearly disingenuous and not within your own frame work. I do enjoy that you even titled your essay after a quote from the most notorious Wall Street (the movie) villain, Gordon Gecko. "Greed is good, it keeps us honest" he tells shareholders, all while knowingly cheating them. Greed does not keep us honest and the idea of placing our futures on the good will of brokers is beyond staggering faith its lunacy. i do admire your idealism and faith in people, i share this faith, but it seems the nature of capitalism to undermine this goodness.

  • Posted By: kodiakkodiak @ 06/25/2009 1:48:49 PM

    your call for self regulation seem both disingenuous and in contradiction with your entire thesis. You can't title your article after a quote of the most notorious Wall Street (the movie) villain Gordon Gecko who declares at the share holders meeting that "greed is good and keeps us honest" all while he is knowingly cheating them. Thank you for reminding us of that amazing movie however misplaced your agenda may be.

  • Posted By: gerard_murphyiii @ 06/25/2009 8:28:56 AM

    Although Mr. Zakaria didn???t express this in his article, I also construed his article to be particularly apropos to the modern climate change debate. I find all of the talk of competition in the energy space to be capitalism at its finest. The more I learn about electric company monopolies and how the electric rates get fixed (usually by state commissions based on capital expenditures), the more I believe that increased capitalism is exactly what we need.

    Capitalism with a long term focus lines up well with morality. This has been expressed before as a tragedy of the commons. Overfishing a river might be good for short term GDP and a individual fisherman???s personal wealth. Overfishing a river to the point where no more fish live in the river is really bad for long term GDP and bad for all fishermen.

    I write about this on my blog - http://ecoequilibrium.wordpress.com/ -Gerard Murphy

  • Posted By: gerard_murphyiii @ 06/25/2009 8:26:29 AM

    Although Mr. Zakaria didn't express this in his article, I also construed his article to be particularly apropos to the modern climate change debate. I find all of the talk of competition in the energy space to be capitalism at its finest. The more I learn about electric company monopolies and how the electric rates get fixed (usually by state commissions based on capital expenditures), the more I believe that increased capitalism is exactly what we need.

    Capitalism with a long term focus lines up well with morality. This has been expressed before as a tragedy of the commons. Overfishing a river might be good for short term GDP and a individual fisherman???s personal wealth. Overfishing a river to the point where no more fish live in the river is really bad for long term GDP and bad for all fishermen.

    I write about this on my blog http://ecoequilibrium.wordpress.com/ - Gerard Murphy

  • Posted By: Steve1776 @ 06/22/2009 1:18:06 PM

    Before the Greek discovery of scientific method, people accepted supernatural causes. After the modernist rejection of scientific method, people, people accept subjective causes. Thus the pseudo-scientific claim that capitalism, ie, individual rights, is unstable because of alleged animal spirits, ie, emotions. This is not science but merely a modernist version of another religious absurdity, Original Sin.

    Socialist control of money and banking, ie, legal tender and the Fed, with its counterfeiting of money, credit and interest rates, causes the "business" cycle. This govt counterfeiting moves thru the market like a pig thru a python, causing unsustainable investments (BOOM!) that necessarily fail in the non-Pragmatist, non-Keynsian long run (BUST!). Real money, credit and interest rates are the products of production for a market, not govt's hidden taxes for war and welfare. Trash the Fed. Back to gold. Free the financial industry.

    See Rand, Mises, Hayek, and Oresme. Do not see Keynes.

  • Posted By: ckdub @ 06/20/2009 12:31:10 PM

    Like cut up money? More currency collage at www.alternatingcurrency.com

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/19/2009 6:04:09 PM

    Maybe we use old terms for new processes. Instead of capitalism and socialism to describe the way in which our economy operates, I would suggest we start with "Factionism", where various economic factions try to dominate the scene. Socialism and capitalism are too archaic to describe the plethora of applicants for domination of the national wealth. At least give it a try. It seems to describe better what we see in recent decades as we try to fit the old squares in all the new round holes which seems to be the cause of all the arguing. Wrong tools always make a mess of any job.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/19/2009 6:10:01 PM

      The few insiders who reacted to our impending systemic failure by funding those who caused the failure were certainly the most powerful faction at the time, name them what you will. The only defense to their error is our freedom of the press. Other factions have emerged since then, pulling in various directions to dilute the "remedy".

      • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/19/2009 6:17:29 PM

        The cure for all of the ills is "future money", being money which did not exist yesterday, created from thin air and applied today for a better future, used to overlay the errors of the past. Each faction, as it operates through our various levels of government creates more of the medicine, either by fiat or statute or executive order, and what have you. Each one who creates more of such future money swears that the additional dollars will not dilute the value of those dollars already in circulation. Add to this the occasional "tax reducer" faction which says that the less we tax and the more we spend without taxing creates prosperity for all while it fills all the chug holes of our infrastructure. We are a magic country.

        • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/20/2009 12:22:54 PM

          So, in essence, if we pour money on the wounds until they heal and follow that with everyone employed and working hard, then we will swim to the top of the pile of excess cash, stumbling a little here and there with inflation, but not starving. On the other hand, if hard work with everyone employed does not follow the flood of new money, then we will finally meet our economic Waterloo and march home cold and hungry on history's bleak and frozen trail.

  • Posted By: Scuromondo @ 06/15/2009 2:54:03 PM

    I thought capitalism already had a manifsto: "Atlas Shrugged."

    • Posted By: Uday Salizar @ 06/15/2009 6:11:33 PM

      No, Atlas Shrugged is manifesto for college kid anarchist who is enjoy crappy writing.

      • Posted By: Kcurrier @ 06/20/2009 9:31:11 AM

        But yes, it is still vogue to trash Rand, especially when one hasn't read anything by her. She consistently criticized anarchists, conservatives, even Libertarians. One doesn't have to agree with her philosophy, but at least do some reading before criticizing.

      • Posted By: IMSnooping @ 06/16/2009 5:45:39 PM

        Anarchist? Hmm, that's not what I got out of that book at all. I'm not one of these Rand-heads, exactly. But I certainly didn't get the impression she was advocating anarchy. It was just one more in a long list of warnings about the tyranny of the majority -- this time in the context of property.

    • Posted By: stelleen @ 06/19/2009 1:09:48 PM

      Capitalism does have a manifesto. It is called the Wealth of Nations and was written by Adam Smith in the 1600s.

  • Posted By: Kcurrier @ 06/20/2009 9:16:38 AM

    Fareed, I've been thinking this way ever since our economy fell down the tubes, and no one has really said it until now. Thank you! I've always enjoyed reading your work because you have clarity of vision, are not prone to over-emotionalism or group-think, and over all, you are a realistic optimist -not an easy feat! Capitalism is not dead. Thank goodness. But our present circumstances present a wake-up call, and we shouldn't be falling victim to what Matt Miller calls "The Tyranny of Dead Ideas". Capitalism is still the best system for mankind, but like your car analogy, it needs to be driven with respect. We shouldn't be afraid of sensible regulations that still allow free market ideas and production but hinder the effects of economic implosions that cripple entire governments. I'm also very glad to see someone introduce capitalism to morality- they are not mutually exclusive, and things like integrity, honesty and pride in actual competitive production (not gaming the system, which is not the same thing) need to be taught to young business majors. Capitalism is very powerful and should be used for good. But when it is used carelessly and recklessly, we all suffer.

  • Posted By: Kanan Divecha @ 06/20/2009 8:21:06 AM

    A terrific, complete over-all view on what has been going wrong with world economics. At the base of all that's ever gone wrong or can ever go wrong is the lack of ethics, moral values and therefore, the inability of the powers that be at every level to say no to short cut methods to grow rich. If lessons are well learnt this time, the, worldwide, the rich will no longer get richer at the cost of the poor getting poorer. Way to go Zakaria. I doff my imaginary hat at you for the clarity of thought in your well researched essay. Kanan Divecha, Mumbai, India

  • Posted By: warisforsuckers @ 06/19/2009 6:33:01 PM

    Hey Fareed! Nice article!
    Beautiful artwork... I didn't agree with everything of course, but overall you've got some pretty good stuff there.
    I noticed a couple of typos though. Figured I'd tell you guys about them, and although you can't edit the print copy, you could adjust the website version if you wanted.
    page 2 "too large (to) be leveraged at 30 to 1" the (to) needs to be there
    page 4 "toward a extraordinary" the a needs to be an (an)

    I particularly liked your line, "Without better international coordination, there will be more crashes...".
    Classic good chess, and I'd be honored if some of my work in some small way helped inspire such if/then propositional architecture.

    By the way... last night after midnight when I first saw this article, I just had to run out and get a print version of the issue. Walgreens was out. The human degradation parade I saw upon my visit to Walmart also left me emptyhanded (I just had to walk in that place, didn't I?). They claimed Walmart doesn't ever sell Newsweek. Lucky for us I guess. I finally found 1 copy in a random Albertson's at 12:30. Went home, drank a Rogue and read it. Good times, hahaha.

  • Posted By: Observerguy @ 06/19/2009 4:08:28 PM

    It is almost too ironic. Marx presented capitalism as an ever reactionary force based on greed of the few and its requisite conservatism to hold on to power. Now we have a book in revolutionary soviet colors, with a copy cat title, favoring greed. The author is just too hip -- perectly mocking the cause he sets forth. Or.....could it be that he doesn't get it at all? Nah. Gotta say, Adam Smith's work was just what "stelleen" says. Justifying the implicit bruatilty of "holding on to power" has always been difficult for capitalists, hence, they infuse their conservatism with metaphysical beg-outs -- gambits to the evangelicals, evolutionary arguments (survival of the fittest), and, of course, Smith's "guiding hand" (it will, somehow cosmologically, all be "ok," in effect). The current version of "guiding hand" is "trickle down" and its irrational theorization by slave boys' for the massah, "supply side" theory. Smith and his ilk live yet today, because of the difficulty of justifying evil.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/19/2009 10:07:55 AM

    We've been drunk on borrowed money for a considerable time. We graduated from conspicuous consumption to conspicuous acquisition of money, greatly in excess of what was actually earned. As with most all of life's excesses, we will fall into the gutter and roll around in the empty bottles before arising from the squalor of excess. Morals will return to the marketplace as we confess our economic sins and rebuild a national economic life. Schools of business and law will return to the ethic which forms the framework for the succeeding successes. It's a cyclical thing.

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