Reagan Was Wrong

To conservative Cassandra Henry Fairlie, Republicans sowed their present-day destruction from the start.

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  • Posted By: sieg6529 @ 06/25/2009 9:35:38 AM

    "Narrow minded, book banning, truth censoring, mean spirited; ungenerous, envious, intolerant, afraid; chicken, bullying; trivially moral, falsely patriotic; family cheapening, flag cheapening, God cheapening; the common man, shallow, small, sanctimonious." Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

    • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 07/23/2009 5:56:57 PM

      That is one of the most accurate quotes I have ever read, leave it to the British to be so eloquent.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 07/23/2009 5:56:01 PM

    You... Jimbo - predictable.... hahaha too easy

  • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 07/06/2009 9:59:14 PM

    Leave it to Newsweak to trot out and lionize a no-name, drunken, British twit. As long as his writings are tinged with anti-Americanism, that makes him a hero in their eyes.

    The left is sadly predictable.

  • Posted By: itchybo @ 06/21/2009 9:02:44 PM

    Reagan was a vastly overrated president. He gets credit for "winning" the Cold War because he happened to be in office when the Soviet Union finally collapsed, largely due to its own ineptitude. He was also good at wrapping himself in the flag and telling people what they wanted to hear, but beyond that, what did he actually accomplish? He certainly wasn't "fiscally" conservative. After all, the US went from being the largest creditor nation to the largest debtor nation during his first term. Nor did he "starve the beast" and shrink the national government like he set out to do. Government grew under Reagan. His record on the environment was also abysmal. Poverty and crime in America's inner cities reached frightening proportions during his presidency. He exacerbated racism by affirming "states rights" during a speech at Philadelphia, Mississippi, site of the murder of civil rights workers in 1964. He also smashed unions and encouraged the offshoring of jobs overseas, which has led to the decline of America's manufacturing base and the erosion of our middle class. The Republican Party's current predicament stems from trying to duplicate Reagan's success, which was largely by fluke, and is unlikely to be repeated. Judging by some of the posts here, they Republicans still haven't figured it out, either.

    • Posted By: Matty1972 @ 06/24/2009 2:29:49 PM

      Crime and poverty are choices

    • Posted By: NeoBlackdog @ 06/22/2009 8:57:14 AM

      Go back and check your history. Bush #1 was in office when the Soviet Empikre collapsed and said collapse was linked directly to Reagans policies. Racism is not 'affirmed' by a states rights speach, though individual rights are. Americas manufacturing base is declining BECAUSE of unions demanding more and more, and the middle class has largley gotten smaller in America because the upper class has gotten BIGGER! The percentage of millionaires in the US is higher now than it's ever been!

  • Posted By: ericdrexil @ 06/21/2009 4:09:12 AM

    So winning 5 of the last 9, ( or 7 of the last 11) presidential elections is destruction?

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/21/2009 9:22:43 AM

      Republicans are in trouble right now, and I don't say that lightly. It has a lot more to do in my mind with their lack of support among the young than anything else. The youth vote went for Obama by something like 2 to 1, and the Republicans' voting base isn't getting any younger.

      Simply put, while his vision for it is somewhat hard to take seriously, Michael Steele is not wrong - Republicans must figure out how to attract young voters, many of whom are alienated and bitter towards the Republican Party even at this point in their lives, back to the fold, or face serious existential problems within a generation. Were it up to the boomers, the Republicans would be fine - but it's not, and never will be again, just about the boomers. Millenials make up an increasing part of the voting population these days and that's only going to increase as the years go on.

      As a postscript, things like Inhofe's refusal to meet with Sonia Sotomayor are also not helping the GOP with Latinos, who - just like the Irish in the mid-19th century - will increasingly represent a larger share of the voting population in the future as well. People like Rush Limbaugh are failing to point out the problems, and those who do are routinely crucified by those who are left in the party. The GOP is getting more and more ideological and less practical, and in my opinion as a result is less capable of seeing these growing demographic storms on the horizon.

      To put it simply, they are not out, but they are down, and I believe it differs significantly from the normal pendulum swing of politics - I think that unless the GOP acknowledges the damages of the last eight years and tries to correct course, they will find themselves increasingly disenfranchised.

      • Posted By: iowafalcon @ 06/21/2009 7:00:21 PM

        The support of the young always goes to the democrats. Young people are stupid. The support that Obama got was not really remarkable. what caused Obama to win his HUGE 52% was the rejection of McCain by conservatives that were fed up with a liberal leadership of the Republican party. the change that they voted for was a leadership change in the GOP, and they will continue to vote against liberal GOP leadership until the top of the party resembles the base. This is a conservative nation, and the Republican party will be back in the drivers seat as soon as they remember that. I only hope that there is something resembling America when Obama's run is over.

        • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/21/2009 11:17:13 PM

          I may be "stupid", but I'm still smart enough to vote, and if you want to talk trash to me like that, goddamn straight I'm going to vote for the party that doesn't insult and hate the young people of its own nation. Also, I'll be voting for the next forty years or so or longer, assuming nothing takes me out early. Right now I don't see any compelling reason that any of those forty years of voting should include votes for the kind of people that talk to me and treat me like dirt. You might want to think about that.

          • Posted By: Matty1972 @ 06/24/2009 2:37:47 PM

            Being able to vote doesn't make you smart, it makes you at least 18 and in some cases not a felon. If being smart was a prerequisite for voting Obama would still be a just a liberal lawyer.

          • Posted By: zz333 @ 06/22/2009 8:12:44 AM

            And there lies the problem. Good luck in the future!!

            You will find out that the cookie crumbles very quickly without active citizenry and personal responsibility. Mommie's bossoms are getting large and heavy, they have a tendency to deflate at a rapid rate.

            • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/22/2009 11:04:39 AM

              See, here's the real problem:

              Conservatives are making predictions about the future going "you're going to fail", "you suck", "you're worthless because surely the sky is falling."

              Moderates and independents are going "Christ, look how much actual stuff fell over and was destroyed during the last eight years."

              You can talk all you want about how "irresponsible" we are, and at the end of the day you still have an eight-year record of neglect and an American city (New Orleans) that's STILL largely underwater and two inept foreign wars waged incompetently for six years against opponents who should have been no serious threat to us and a stock market that fell by half in the last of those eight years due primarily to an economic crisis caused by consequences of deregulation. And you'll keep on pretending you bear no responsibility for it, either.

              Like Joe Scarborough said, you can either own up to some of your ***, or not. But you're going to have a hard time getting back to power unless you do. I'm not the one who's upset about how things are being run currently, and while I continue blogging in support of "my side", if such a thing exists, you're the one who has the burden to get off your ass and capture an election if you really want to stop being miserable (it seems, anyway). Good luck with that.

              • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/22/2009 11:09:05 AM

                It always boggles my mind how many conservatives really think they are the only ones who actually count in America...who think they're the only ones who ever do anything responsible or financially support the country - while at the same time always, always, always agitating for lower taxes (I suspect they think zero would be the right number for they themselves to be taxed, though obviously I can't say that for sure), and at the same time throwing up their hands at the crises of the last eight years and saying "we didn't do it".

                Honestly, stop trying if you want to. You haven't convinced me of anything close to your indispensability when it comes to keeping the country running. Though I'm happy to have you here, and happy to have you as an American citizen, I am of the opinion that the country could and will do just fine without your noble efforts, such as they are, should you choose to want to whine and cry and continue to claim patriotism without having any desire to financially support the government that makes so many of our privileged lives possible.

            • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/22/2009 10:54:51 AM

              Forty years, bro. And I'm not the only one.

      • Posted By: Matty1972 @ 06/24/2009 2:42:48 PM

        You can't back Sotomayor just to please a demographic, quite simply she's a terrible choice and the result of a flawed search to begin with. Not to mention that the Irish flood of the mid nineteenth century came to truly understand American politics and to care about the country more than just their own ethnic corner of it, hence their unusually high rates of membership in the armed forces, police and fire departments, they also came here LEGALLY. Makes much more sense to actually, truly enforce our immigration laws than to pander to the group breaking them.

  • Posted By: EGlide @ 06/22/2009 2:55:55 PM

    No, Reagan was a bad actor.

    • Posted By: Carney @ 06/22/2009 3:11:42 PM

      Strange, neither the public, nor the critics, nor the studios thought so during his career. Only leftists who hate his successful public policies try to retroactively dump on his acting reputation. The irony is that they usually also blame his popularity with the American people on his Svengali-like acting ability. You can't have it both ways!

      • Posted By: Uday Salizar @ 06/22/2009 5:08:25 PM

        Reagan movies so bad, Moammar Khaddafy play them 24 hour on state TV for make fun of Reagan back in 1980s.

        • Posted By: Carney @ 06/22/2009 5:20:49 PM

          Evidence? And there's a difference between a bad actor and a bad movie. Clint Eastwood has earned multiple Oscars and is a respected filmmaker, but like most actors has appeared in his share stinkers, like the two in which his co-star was an orangutan. Nobody mentions them now but Reagan (once he got involved in politics) never heard the end of the one he did with a chimp. Anyway Quadaffy, like Kim Jong Il, is a nut who is laughed at around the world, when he isn't bombing discos and passenger airplanes. Right now he's sulking because the Arab world didn't unite behind his "leadership" so he now decided he is "African" and wants to be the leader of all Africa. Ha!

          • Posted By: Uday Salizar @ 06/24/2009 10:37:29 AM

            Uncle Moammar only try to have good time. Is not easy, have the good time in Libya. Is resort to bodyguard of the sexy womens in pink burkhas. Ah, old Uncle Moammar...is always play some joke.

  • Posted By: mike927 @ 06/22/2009 10:28:49 PM

    The facts about Reagan: http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=MTRhYjEwNzAwMDg5YjA3Njg2ZjVjYWY4Mzk5MjIxMDk=

  • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/21/2009 9:07:07 AM

    Reagan did a great many good things for America, but I do think his legacy needs to be seriously reexamined in light of the progression towards the Presidency of George W. Bush. Most of Bush's key failings (interference in small countries' governments and deregulation) had their templates laid out for them in Reagan's era, though I do still think of Reagan as a good President when judged on the whole. The Iran-Contra scandal and our covert support of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War helped establish modern conservative foreign policy as it relates to the Iraq War, and the S&L crisis really should have done more to warn conservativism of the dangers of deregulation. The one thing that seems to be missing in the modern era, sadly, is the Reagan-era practicality and patience that helped bring down the Soviet Union and got us out of the S&L crisis safely.

    • Posted By: iowafalcon @ 06/21/2009 7:19:26 PM

      What does conservatism and deregulation have to do with the current crisis? This crisis was caused by bought and paid for politicians, an overactive FED, fraud, a greatly unwise system of the governement encouraging the lending to people that could not possibly pay back a loan, and corporations acting in the intrests of the executives instead of the stockholders. What kind of regulation would have kept Barney Frank from protecting his pals at Fannie, Freddie, and ACORN? Bush was a *** that continued a policy of cheap money and homes for everyone that wanted one. This was not original to his administration, and was encouraged and protected by the congress. Conseravites would not have ever agreed with the community reinvestment act, the long lasting cheap money policies of the FED, and the stuipidity of a government sponsored and backstopped agency buying bad loan contracts before their ink dried. What needed to be restrained by regulation was not the market, but the government.

      • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/21/2009 11:30:24 PM

        Conservativism and deregulation had plenty to do with this crisis. Phil Gramm and two other Republican Senators created an act that repealed Glass-Steagal, called Gramm-Leach-Bliley, and got it passed by Congress and took it to Clinton, who sadly and foolishly signed it right at the end of his Presidency. Come the next few years, Bush presided over it all and did nothing to fix it while the banks were leveraging up to 30 to 1 or more. Not that Barney Frank and many Congressional Dems are not also to blame, but at the heart of this crisis is leverage, and at the heart of the leveraging is a Republican deregulatory philosophy.

        Also, dear God, stop whining and bitching and crying about the CRA. I'm getting tired of hearing about how it "caused" this crisis, since it passed in NINETEEN *** SEVENTY SEVEN. Sure took a long time to destroy the country, if that's what did it. It also is somewhat interesting to note that CRA loans had a lower default average than the industry as a whole. From where I'm sitting, the CRA had much less to do with the crisis than the executives who more or less crapped themselves in their haste to take profits and make bad loans.

        I've said it before - Joe Scarborough said it first, in fact - and I'll say it again. If you as a GOP member want to retake some political power in this country, then start taking some damn responsibility for the corporate excesses of the last eight years. Sitting around predicting doom and sniping at your opponents and waiting for them to fail is not going to cut it. Your man and your Congress were in power while this was percolating. You can sit around and blame the Fed, Greenspan, a whole other host of worthy candidates for the mess if you want, but at the end of the day, the buck stopped with Bush and the Republican Congress. No, they did not create the insanity on Wall Street, but goddamn right it was their responsibility to take charge and prevent this from exploding and hurting a lot of people, and they failed to do that. As a result, you lost power, and I personally doubt you will regain it until the GOP collectively stands up and admits to some mistakes.

        • Posted By: bojack27 @ 06/22/2009 5:45:59 PM

          LOL...your post excuses the demo(n)crats from everything! One thing I will agree with you on is that we (meaning Republicans) need to stop playing th blame game and adjust fire. We see how Obomination is still trying to blame Bush on inheriting a mess, but now he has manage to quadruple the deficit in a measly 5 months in office. But the real gem is that he keeps on blaming Bush for the mess....lol...

          We could argue all day long over who caused this, but the truth is that every elected official who didn't stand up a denounce this mess are to blame (republican, democrats and independents). Selah!

  • Posted By: Dakota54 @ 06/22/2009 12:26:27 PM

    Hey Vig...you will be hard pressed to find a Conservative who liked Bush. And, by the way, if you think that Bush was to blame for the fiasco that happened in New Orleans...then you are more blind than one would think. Look at any major city that is in financial trouble (or State for that matter) and you will find your "compassionate" Liberalism at work. I was down there (N.O.) and Your Governor and Mayor were the ones who destroyed that city. Blaming Bush for it is a joke. If you want to point at Arnold in California...Arnold is no Republican...and exemplifies the primary reason why the Republican Party is in shambles...because more of them want to become "like" Liberals... Which has never worked any time and every time it has been tried. Bush was no Conservative...neither was his father.

    • Posted By: Uday Salizar @ 06/22/2009 5:10:04 PM

      "Hey Vig...you will be hard pressed to find a Conservative who liked Bush. "

      Is hard pressed to find conservative at all.

      • Posted By: bojack27 @ 06/22/2009 5:11:50 PM

        I'm a conservative and I like Bush!

  • Posted By: Carney @ 06/22/2009 1:02:26 PM

    In its eagerness to lecture Republicans not to be conservatives (in the genuine, American, sense), Obama's semi-official fan club magazine is reduced to digging up and touting the nonexistent legacy of an obscure, failed foreign scribbler who never let go of his European big government enthusiasms and antipathy to liberty; utter ignorance of the free market and how wealth and economic growth actually happen; and typically smug media-elite sneering contempt for normal Americans- the decent, religious, socially conservative American middle class, the heart, soul. and backbone of this country.

    Reagan had far more wisdom and insight into the greatness of America and its heartland people than any sleazy, booze-soaked, bankrupt, ungrateful lout.

    • Posted By: sieg6529 @ 06/22/2009 2:02:08 PM

      Reagan was an actor. End of discussion

      • Posted By: Carney @ 06/22/2009 2:57:15 PM

        You don't get to decide when discussions end. Reagan saw first hand what Communists are like when they tried to corrupt the Screen Actors Guild. After his acting career Reagan was engaged for years in the intellectual and political life of the nation and the debate on issues of the day, and his trenchant and provocative views were widely respected and listened to. With the publication of his handwritten radio commentaries from the late 70s the final stake has been driven through the heart of the myth of Reagan as a shallow thinker or a mere puppet, and the reality has emerged of a serious public servant and thoughtful patriot.

        • Posted By: Uday Salizar @ 06/22/2009 5:09:19 PM

          "Reagan saw first hand what Communists are like when they tried to corrupt the Screen Actors Guild. "

          Carney is one McCarthy supporter? Uday thinking you missed bus.

    • Posted By: dmbierlein @ 06/22/2009 2:06:48 PM

      Truly unfortunate that the only response to an intellectual argument is the ad hominem attack.

      • Posted By: Carney @ 06/22/2009 2:50:20 PM

        I remain dazzled by the non ad hominem intellectual brilliance of "booboisie".

  • Posted By: marieburns @ 06/22/2009 4:31:16 PM

    This is a fascinating essay about a fascinating writer, but I don't see anything conservative about his writing, save perhaps his admiration for Winson Churchill. Anyway, thank you for introducing us to a long-gone writer whom we should be reading today.

    The Constant Weader at www.RealityChex.com

  • Posted By: sieg6529 @ 06/22/2009 1:57:31 PM

    Pure capitalism sounds all nice and great in theory, but so does pure communism, in theory. These theories both fail by not considering human nature. Both theories assume all parties will act responsibly. History has shown that all people will not always act with 100% accountability. Due to this very important consideration, a mixed system is required in which the more unpleasant human traits, such as laziness and greed, are accounted for, controlled by, regulations. Regulations, when crafted properly, can actually help preserve the free market. So we should not be asking for smaller government; such blind adherence to a blanket policy is just lazy politics. We should be asking for a smarter government.

    • Posted By: Carney @ 06/22/2009 3:43:04 PM

      A lazy and greedy corporation gets punished in the marketplace as customers abandon its products and investors dump its stock. But the government is insulated from such public feedback; there is no alternate brand of government for dissatisfied taxpayers to turn to. They are forced, physically forced if necessary, to keep paying and paying forever. Replying that they can always vote out a party is absurd. Imagine if there were only one restaurant brand and you could not hope for an alternate unless your statistically insignificant vote happened to be the same one cast by millions of others. Meanwhile you are free to stop paying money immediately to any company you dislike for any reason.

  • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 06/22/2009 12:32:26 PM

    Henry Fairlie was a true intellectual, we could use more just like him, and wish more people were capable of understanding just what he was saying.

  • Posted By: Dakota54 @ 06/22/2009 12:26:13 PM

    Hey Vig...you will be hard pressed to find a Conservative who liked Bush. And, by the way, if you think that Bush was to blame for the fiasco that happened in New Orleans...then you are more blind than one would think. Look at any major city that is in financial trouble (or State for that matter) and you will find your "compassionate" Liberalism at work. I was down there (N.O.) and Your Governor and Mayor were the ones who destroyed that city. Blaming Bush for it is a joke. If you want to point at Arnold in California...Arnold is no Republican...and exemplifies the primary reason why the Republican Party is in shambles...because more of them want to become "like" Liberals... Which has never worked any time and every time it has been tried. Bush was no Conservative...neither was his father.

  • Posted By: Monachello @ 06/22/2009 11:36:13 AM

    Cheers to Henry; we hardly knew you and, boy, we could have used you.

  • Posted By: valwayne @ 06/21/2009 9:51:02 PM

    It clearly was a bad week at Newsweek. We found out from the GAO just how incredibly outrageously expensive Obama's version of rationed Obamacare in America will be. With the iran situation we saw the perfect contrast between Reagan's conservatism and Obama's liberalism. Reagan confronted tyranny, and supported freedom "Tear Down This Wall". Obama sought to appease the tyrants while the freedom protestors were being beaten in the streets, "We Don't Want to Meddle". Reagan trusted individual people knowing most are good while a few are evil. Obama clearly trusts Government, not because individuals are evil, but they are clearly too stupid, bitter, gun toting, bible thumping, and biggoted to be trusted with going to the bathroom by themselves, let alone make econoimic decision with their own money. So with no marterial for the week to write worshipful articles about "The Obama" Newsweek decided to take a shot to discredit Ronalld Reagan a full generation after he left office, and long after his death. The strategy is clear. With Obama's Government takeover of everthing, and massive spending, debt , and printed money driving unemployment to levels not seen since the Great Depression and clearly failing, its time to pin the blame on a dead man. Especiallly when that dead President did the exact opposite of what Obama is doing and set the state for a generation of unprecedented growth and prosperity. If the silly blaming of Reagan for a housing bubble bust that was created by corrupt democrats in Congress 20 years after he left office didn't show Newsweek's intent, lumping in a shot at Sarah Palin clearly did. Good try Newsweek! What nextweek. Back to worshipping "The ONE" or will you throw some more mud at a long dead dead President?

    • Posted By: urbantexan @ 06/22/2009 2:51:35 AM

      To valwayne: Great post! You said everything I was thinking and know to be true!

      • Posted By: fallon2012 @ 06/22/2009 9:08:34 AM

        Bravo! i did not vote for Ronald Reagan but now appreciate in hindsight all that he did for America. Obama has fallen short on the economy and foreign relations. I think America wanted a change in leadership but not a change in America itself. We still want all our our freedoms and that includes the freedom to fail, dust yourself off and start again.

        What we now have is the equivalent of a helicopter parent in the oval office. Obama is trying to interfere in every aspect of out lives rather than the tmore ough love parent loke Reagan who says, I'll help you to a point but then you'll have to learn to fly on your own.

      • Posted By: NeoBlackdog @ 06/22/2009 8:40:40 AM

        Nicely put!

  • Posted By: Yourmemory @ 06/21/2009 9:46:08 AM

    So now Newsweek discovers what a disaster Reagan was, only 25 years too late! I began working at Newsweek during the Reagan era and was always shocked to see how abruptly the editors swerved from their progressive 1970s stances to their cozying up to the new DC crowd and, thus, to death squads in Central America, disastrous budget deficits and all the rest..
    Perhaps the neocons at parents company Washington Post will come to their senses too.

    • Posted By: econ101a @ 06/21/2009 3:40:14 PM

      • Posted By: zz333 @ 06/22/2009 8:15:54 AM

        Read the important words here "WORKED AT NEWSEEK"- now the trolls are out.

  • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/22/2009 8:11:21 AM

    On January 20, 2013, when president obama begins his second term, it will mark 24 years since the Republicans had anyone to use as a hero except him. And he only acted as a president. swartznegger, Norris, Heston, Wayne and Ronnie. Can you see what the GOP needs? Is it any wonder why they like Rush? He's an entertainer, not a serious politician. The Republicans want to be lied to in a convincingly manner. .

  • Posted By: zz333 @ 06/22/2009 8:07:28 AM

    Who is Farlie anyway? Has he contributed to anything really meaningful, or is he another pompous Brit that the Americans slobber over because of his accent and wit.

  • Posted By: squarebird @ 06/22/2009 12:59:13 AM

    Um, his hero is FDR?!?

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