Theocracy and its Discontents

The Solidarity movement was aided by Western intel agencies. All kinds of non-lethal help, computers, fax machines, etc. IRAN is a different animal. This regime has no qaulms about killing its own populace, so right there the similarity ENDS. This is gonna end up horribly. There is now no question military action will be used. God forbid, low-yield, PGM's will be used to destroy sub-terranian facilities, and the rain of ruin will be sqaurely on the old, belligerent mullahs, who should be part of a DECAP strike. As usual, China and Russia have gone against us. Israel may get the green, but it will be a coalition of Western and possibly Gulf nations that fear Iran's nuke program. Obama has made his case, extended his hand, but it's been slapped away. Nice try CINC, but they are begging for a whuppin'. Time is ticking, the stall tactics are nearing an end. Its almost time to strike.

Why would anyone want to bring down a theocratic regime so hastily?

The bottom line lies in the fact that people crave for power, the greater the better. There is no guarantee that a new regime would not form a new core of individual or group power. At the end of the day, what difference would that make?

Let Iranians decide for themselves.
(btt1943)

I agree with the author of this article far more than the people who think we need to push ourselves into this situation for exactly the reasons mentioned. The Iranians are perfectly capable of changing their own country and are, even if these protests fail to change the outcome of the election, because notice has been served.

I always have to giggle at the "conservatives" on this one. We should butt into their democracy, again? If we were so involved in wanting their democracy to succeeed then why did we overthrow their democratic republic to install the Shah of Iran, our pet dictator? Why did we use the Savvak, the Iranian intelligence service, to kill and jail their people who didn't like that? How do these igno's think that Iran ended up as a theocracy in the first place? Through our meddling.

President Obama is correct in his handling of this situation. Let the other nations take the lead in this, since our meddling makes it worse for the protestors and makes it easier for the theocracy to use us as a whipping boy, as well as being incredibly hypocritical. Maybe we should have invaded China for Tianenman Square! Maybe France should have invaded us for our own version of the Square in between WW1 and WW2! Get real and try to form your own opinion instead of parroting what you're told to think people.

You have an army on one side, and just plain people on the other, fighting for their freedom, for women's rights (really basic women's rights, by the way) and domocarcy.
The people who have no guns, can't overthrow that ones that have an organized army. Especially since Obama has done everything he can to strengthen his support of the regime of the Ayatollahs and made it clear that he respects an opressive fanatic regime.

Moreover, Obama has lately sent a message of support to the regime in Syria- which is a puppet for the Ayatollahs of Iran. So the muslims who do want democracy and freedom, get the message that Obama is not behind them, but rather shows weakness and support of the most opressive governments in the regime.

The mystery about the Iranian election crisis is now unfolding as the protests enter the second week with death and injuries to many demonstrators. It is becoming increasingly apparent that the challenge put up by Hassan Mousavi was not simply to dispute the election results, which were fair, but to shake up the whole infra and political structure of Iran and remove the present regime from power. It is sad and unfortunate that this election crisis is prolonging unnecessarily and could lead to its disintegration. It is also pathetic that the Iranian middle class is helping a foreign conspiracy to destabilize their country.

I suspect that the West would like these demonstrations to become more violent and bloodier because it wants to see Iranian mullahs and their regime so much demonized in the world that it would become a reasonable excuse for the Israelis and the USA to attack Iranian nuclear installations by air and at the same time support their already clandestine operations inside Iran to dismantle it.

The present civil disorder is leading Iran into anarchy and with weakened Iran; the conspiracy cooked up by the Zionists and the Americans will easily bring down the mullah's regime. The West would like to see a boot-licking regime of the like of Nuri-ul-Maliki of Iraq set up in Iran and control 20% of the oil reserves and natural resources lying under its soil and manipulate the whole of Middle East and Central Asia, which has abundant oil and natural resources.

It is bizarre that the author would claim British and American "interference" in Iran. History clearly shows the opposite. It has been Iran interfering with British and American interests, such as funding terrorists across the world and calling for the death of writers in the West for exercising their free speech rights. Talk about interference.

Also, it is absurd to claim that Britain "took over" Iran's oil industry in 1901. Iran (which wasn't Iran at the time) had no oil industry in 1901. In fact, a private developer bought the rights to explore for oil and almost went bankrupt trying to find it. It is Iran that later expropriated what private British businessman had worked to discover.

An Some of You Low Lie's are Worried about [Iran]


SEOUL, South Korea ??? North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.

Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.

The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

The warning came on the eve of the 59th anniversary of the start of the three-year Korean War, which ended in a truce in 1953, not a peace treaty, leaving the peninsula in state of war.

The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea to protect against an outbreak of hostilities.

Tensions have been high since North Korea launched a long-range rocket in April and then conducted its second underground atomic test on May 25.

Iran has a long history of religious and intellectual greatness. A great Iranian religious leader has his mausoleum in Ajmer in India. If this greatness is stifled, then the nation of Iran will exist no more. Iran has many Sufi leaders still, I am sure, but the leaders of the nation do not know how to confront the modern world. The leadership of Iran is at odds with the reality of the modern world, when their Prophet has asked them to embrace the world, and their surroundings. Iran must reclaim their greatness in the world, and the west must regard Iran, like they have done in the past.

May 29.09: Iran Official Accuses USA over Mosque Bombings !!

Those Damn Persians are Trying to Set Us Up & get Us Involved in our 3rd Persian Gulf War.

Gates,Obama,Emmanuel, Our Security Chiefs & Axelrod Know Better..


Those People would Do Anything to Prolong our Stay, to [Bankrupt] this Nation

The Cost in Lives & Money would be Astronomical !!! Instead of 20 Billion Per Month to China, it would be 30 Bbillion Per Month to [Communist-Socialist China] with Interest.

Iraq:10 Billion Per Month

Afghanistan: 10 Billion Per Month

Iran: Another 10 Billion Per Month With Interest

Damn That Unstable & War Mongering Persian Nation...

You Gung Ho Freedom Fighting Tea Baggers Go DIE for that Islamist Republic

http://www.rferl.org/content/Tehran_Again_Blames_Western_Meddling/1759571.html
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You People Know NOTHING,Whether Ahmadinejad or Mousavi,IRAN WILL STILL BE an Islamist Regime,

Mousavi Or Ahmadinjad, Have NO POWER OR CONTROL OF THE IRANIAN MILITARY & MAKE NO MILITARY DECISIONS...

ONLY THE SUPREME LEADER. NOT THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN..

IRAN IS A THEOCRACY, A GOVERNMENT RULED BY MUSLIM CLERICS & EITHER PRESIDENT WOULD SAY WHATEVER THE SUPREME LEADER WANTS HIM TO SAY OR GREEN LIGHTS HIM TO SAY...DUH
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Mousavi: "Call the People to the [Islamic Revolution] the way that it was and to the [Islamic Republic] the way that it Should Be."
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Mousavi: Instead, he charged, the current scene "goes beyond attempts to impose an unwanted government on the people. I rather view it as an attempt to impose a new form of political life on the country.....

Mousavi: " He warned the Public against allowing "Liars and Cheats to Steal the Banner of Defending the [Islamic System] from you."

the matter is clear.Iranian goverment have stolen milions of votes.so the question is"whats the rule of national communities like UN at this moment?whats they reaction to the crimes happend in the Iranian society?!!the fact is that Iranian regime dosent have any pity about the iranian people sowhen they reach nuclear bombsin the future they will not care about other people and this regim will change their language with national society.

its very clear ...they have stolen milions of votes from the people in Iran.every day military forces kill people many protestes,arrest them,put alot of forces on them....so the question is "whats the duty of national communities like UN at this moment?!!will they accept legitimacy of ahmadinejad's goverment?!!this goverment dosent have any pity for his people so tomorrow when they armed with nucleare bomb...they will not care for others and this goverment will change their language with national society...believe me

I cannot agree.

It should not have devolved to the French president to deliver a more stinging rebuke of the mullacracy than has Obama thus far. Obviously,there are vast differances between engineering CIA coups in regime overthrows and forcefully backing the protesters and particularly the Iranian women without the use of such intrigue. The Mullahs will blame the west regardless, thus there is little to lose by calling their abuses on the table and referring these to the General Assembly [ which remains a world platform despite its weakness and corruption]. The GOP garners the lions share of media attention due to being more forceful than Obama on this subject which is already creating peevish consternation among Obamas WH clique. Then too, ''backing off and not stirring the pot'' will create the precise conditions that the Mullahs desire and they will use this blueprint in order to create mayhem wherever they turn their eyes . Sarkozy instantly sees this, as does Merkel and Cameron. Why Obama does not is a mystery, and why he would place a propaganda victory into the hands of the GOP is even more so.[ the invitation to the Iranian embassy corps to celebrate the upcoming 4th of July, the Iranians, being a form of Redcoats themselves, hence the head-scratching over this decision].

Theocracy is permanently and irreversibly weakened in Iran. They already engaged in corrective measures by repealing the corporal punishment(stoning a woman to death). Women sloganeering in Teheran streets demanding freedom is a rude awakening for Iranian men and now they know the womens lib is in full swing. Even the arab countries will take notice and work towards liberating their womenfolk. Sarkogy and his France are leading the way for muslim women liberation. Great.
Help is on the way woman!!!

Theocracy is permanently and irreversibly weakened in Iran. They already engaged in corrective measures by repealing the corporal punishment(stoning a woman to death). Women sloganeering in Teheran streets demanding freedom is a rude awakening for Iranian men and now they know the womens lib is in full swing. Even the arab countries will take notice and work towards liberating their womenfolk. Sarkogy and his France are leading the way for muslim women liberation. Great.
Help is on the way woman!!!