Marching to the Same Drummer

Gov. Sanford seemed like a different kind of pol. Until Wednesday.

By Andrew Romano | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Jun 24, 2009 | Updated: 1:30  p.m. ET Jun 24, 2009

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  • Posted By: rioguy @ 07/04/2009 3:38:30 AM

    He's still the same kind of Pol. He's human and he found himself more attracted to a woman who happened not to be his wife and acted on it. As in most cases he thought he would never be discovered and if you lined up a hundred guys and offered them a chance to be with another woman who they found to be sexier and more interesting than their wives and guaranteed that no one would ever find out at least 50% would take the plunge. I lived in a South American country for over four years. In a big time tourist spot. During that time being in the apartment rental business I encountered hundreds if not thousands of married men there for business, a golf or fishing outing, or simply for some R&R. In just about every case they arrived with the intention of just taking in some sun and doing a little sight seeing but after assessing their "opportunities" and realizing that no one back home thousands of miles away would ever know I'd wager that 95% of those married guys had affairs and returned soon after for seconds. The bizzare part of this scenerio is not that he snuck away to meet his mistress. Thousands of people do that every day(maybe not as far). No the bizzare part is the fake front of happiness that many married couples put on for friends, family, and the media at home. When it comes down to it both Sanford and his Wife and alot of couples in turmoil just like them lie to us everyday by putting on the mask of maritial bliss when in reality they're in agony.

  • Posted By: brydges @ 06/24/2009 3:19:56 PM

    I just hope she's not a fat pig like the Dems keep on the side.

    • Posted By: jcali @ 06/24/2009 5:24:57 PM

      Hey brydges, you sound like the biggest PIG on this thread. Misogynist is thy name fer shur.....

      • Posted By: brydges @ 06/24/2009 5:28:48 PM

        I'm just saying Clinton could have done better, but your right my comment may have been offensive to whoreish fat pigs and I apoligize

        • Posted By: brydges @ 06/24/2009 5:34:11 PM

          P.S. I hate Obama for his actions so call me a racist too.

          • Posted By: jcali @ 06/24/2009 5:54:38 PM

            Ok...you're a racist too...aside from being grammatically challenged...

            • Posted By: brydges @ 06/25/2009 9:43:42 AM

              typical liberal battle cry if you don't agree then you must be a racist- grow up

              and the gramatical errors are to give pathetic morons something to critisize when they have no other argument.

              • Posted By: chris s. @ 06/27/2009 1:50:29 PM

                You're doing it on purpose? Don't believe it for a minute! You are either illiterate, lazy or impaired. If you own up to it, we will be more understanding. Your posts are not just typos. You should be embarrassed. Do have any conception of how many people read those words you've written and chuckle?

                • Posted By: brydges @ 07/01/2009 5:01:51 PM

                  you wouldn't respond if you didn't understand and it didn't make you mad. If you believe I am what you say then it must really irk you that you know I'm right.

              • Posted By: George Dorn @ 06/25/2009 10:39:39 AM

                "I just hope she's not a fat pig like the Dems keep on the side."

                Yeah, you're a real grown up.

                • Posted By: brydges @ 06/25/2009 10:47:01 AM

                  It's not grown up to insult a whore? or you were you insulted?

                  • Posted By: George Dorn @ 06/25/2009 12:02:35 PM

                    No, it isn't grown up to insult anyone, unless they have done you harm.

            • Posted By: wfomoto @ 06/24/2009 6:39:35 PM

              jcali your a idiot, your probably one of those people that think someday we are all going to think and believe the same thing. Please grow the @#$% up and please shut the @#$@ up.

              • Posted By: Nor-Cal for Obama @ 06/24/2009 7:32:10 PM

                Brydges and Wfomoto are tools. Disregard their ignorant banality and do something productive, unlike them.

                • Posted By: brydges @ 06/25/2009 9:42:00 AM

                  Insults is all I have come to expect from a sheep with his head up Obama's *ss. How patehtic

                  • Posted By: George Dorn @ 06/25/2009 10:41:19 AM

                    Anyone else appreciating the hilarious irony in Brydges post? Just another example of the double standard most republicans seem to live by.

                    • Posted By: NotFooledByDistractions @ 07/01/2009 4:43:44 PM

                      It's called projection, but I wouldn't expect a metal midget liek brydges to comprehend

                      • Posted By: brydges @ 07/01/2009 4:58:09 PM

                        Did you mean "metal" or "mental"
                        Insulting some one's intelligence whe you are obviously retarded is yet another reason you are a hypocrite

                    • Posted By: brydges @ 06/25/2009 10:45:32 AM

                      LOL

                    • Posted By: brydges @ 06/25/2009 10:45:04 AM

                      Exactly

              • Posted By: jcali @ 06/24/2009 7:07:04 PM

                Classy! You'd be better served with the tag name of WTFMOFO versus WFOMOTO.....(doutful that such an imbecile would UNDERSTAND)

                • Posted By: Nor-Cal for Obama @ 06/24/2009 7:32:27 PM

                  Good one Jcali

  • Posted By: innerjuju @ 06/24/2009 8:15:18 PM

    To me, the question isn't whether he should resign because this is a "sex scandal". This man is a Governor. He left without being able to be reached in case of State or National emergency which if not expressely against his Oath of Office, is certainly against its intent. This was a clear dereliction of duty and as such the man should resign before he is either impeached or prosecuted.

    Had there been storms this weekend and he been unable to watch CNN or The Weather Channel from Buenos Aires what exactly would have happened?

    • Posted By: bkrummel @ 06/24/2009 8:20:52 PM

      I think you and others with this complaint are getting carried away. Firstly, Sanford is a human being and is allowed to some private time. He clearly made a mistake by not leaving contact info or someone in charge. But this really is a minor mistake that requires a simple reprimand, not a resignation.

      As far as the possibility of an emergency, if there was a major hurricane or something headed for South Carolina, he would have probably know before he left. Let's not condemn the guy based on empty hypotheticals.

      • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/24/2009 8:57:35 PM

        bkrummel, you can't go missing from your job at McDonald's for five days without any explanation. You can't go missing for two days. They'll fire you. Same goes for just about any job in America. I could give a rat's ass if Sanford had an affair, but disappearing for five days without reporting in will lose you most jobs the world over. You have to let your employers - or, in this case, your constituents, who also employ you - know what's going on.

        • Posted By: bkrummel @ 06/24/2009 11:20:32 PM

          Come on, Sanford clearly has family issues. He also just got done with a big political fight. He clearly needed time to clear his head and took it. We should want him to led only with a clear head anyways. He made a mistake by not clearly letting people know where he was. But in a situation like this I think we can show him some compassion. He's been a good public servant up until this incident. A simple never do this again should suffice.

          If one plays hooky for 5 days, yes an employer may fire that person. But I think some employers, if they know their employ has personal problems, may show compassion and allow the employee to remain employed, after a reprimand or good talk of course. The important thing is to make sure the employee can do his or her job, not to destroy the employee for being a human being. We should be showing Sanford support and be making sure he can continue to do his job properly, not jumping the gun to demanding him to be fired or resign.

          Moreover, you don't know the full incident. He apparently told his staff where he was going and then changed his mind about the destination. He probably could have been contacted via email or cell phone. Having contact info should be sufficient, not a full itinerary of where Sanford is when he is away from the office.

          He may be his constituents employee, but he is still a human being. Let's treat him as a human being.

          • Posted By: George Dorn @ 06/25/2009 10:43:33 AM

            "If one plays hooky for 5 days, yes an employer may fire that person. But I think some employers, if they know their employ has personal problems, may show compassion and allow the employee to remain employed, after a reprimand or good talk of course."

            Then that employer is a fool.

            • Posted By: bkrummel @ 06/25/2009 3:06:14 PM

              An employer is a fool for showing compassion?! The idea that we should live in a world where employers are cold-blooded and show no compassion is horrible.

              • Posted By: NotFooledByDistractions @ 07/01/2009 4:41:50 PM

                You must live in some alternate reality because 5 days of being AWOL earns you dismissal for job abandonment in my world. Compassion, empathy? Not in the real world.

          • Posted By: Vigilance @ 06/25/2009 11:25:26 AM

            Let us indeed treat him as a human being. Human beings can't go AWOL for almost a week when they're supposed to be overseeing an entire state. I personally don't care about his affair at all, but no, I don't believe we should be inclined to treat this as a slap on the wrist.

            We don't let high schoolers play hooky for five days in a row without very serious consequences. What makes the governor of South Carolina more able to get away with it? I have no problems with Sanford personally and absolutely hope he continues to make a success of his career, but you can't have someone that unreliable running a state, or a country. It's unfair to the electorate, period.

            • Posted By: bkrummel @ 06/25/2009 3:26:07 PM

              I see what you mean, but it is all a matter of circumstances. This isn't a case of someone playing hooky to Vegas for the fun of it. Sanford needed a break to clear his head and made a mistake while taking this break. There should be consequences to this. If you want the SC Congress to pass a resolution condemning his vanishing and his staff to yell at him for what he did, fine. But I don't think resigning should be one of them, unless Sanford is to preoccupied with his family issues to continue to govern. I agree that I hope he continues his career. Some of the public seems to want Sanford's career to end, which is getting carried away. The important thing is that moving forward he is reliable in running the state or anything else he runs. I think Sanford is reliable in the long term. In the short term, he needs to collect himself before he can be reliable. Apparently he was doing that over the five days of hooky. If he needs more time, he could put someone else in charge or resign while he collects himself. But after that, I think we should trust Sanford.

          • Posted By: George Dorn @ 06/25/2009 10:44:29 AM

            "He apparently told his staff where he was going and then changed his mind about the destination. "

            Um, yeah. I'm going for a little hike. Oh, wait. Instead, I'll bugger off to Argentina and not tell anyone. LOL.

      • Posted By: sms29s66 @ 06/28/2009 11:53:37 AM

        And suppose there had been a terrorist attack or some other manmade disaster occuring without priot notice. The governor might be entitled to SOME private time, but not to the extent that he cannot be found at a moment's notice. He signed on for this curtailment to his privacy when he chose elective office. I don't think he should resign because of the affair perse. He should resign because his emoutional life has overtaken his public life and that is a derilection of duty.

      • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/25/2009 2:20:21 PM

        I think his "not being reachable" isn't true. The governor didn't want to ruin any credibilty that his staffers and others have. this is why He said he had lied to his close associates. Of course some of the staff was covering for him but that's what is expected of a staff. When one gets caught it is also expected that the person doesn't allow the lie to harm those who were watching your back.

        • Posted By: bkrummel @ 06/25/2009 2:35:49 PM

          This is possible that his staff knowingly covered for him, but this isn't definitively what happened. In any case, he did let his staff down by putting them in that position. However, do you really blame Sanford if there was a little cover up considering how nosy Americans are? I mean, if Sanford goes to Argentina, it isn't really our business, but we will still make it our business anyways. Americans are gossip junkies, especially when it comes to our politicians private lives.

          I think the private lives of our politicians are none of our business and that we have made it our business far more than it should be. I think the fact that Sanford may have covered up the affair before the public highlights this.

          • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/25/2009 4:50:31 PM

            Of course they knew. just think of the difference between a camping trip in the Smokey's and a trip to Buenos Aires. By the way, i believe it's winter in argentina this time of year. Good thing he had something warm to cuddle up with.

            • Posted By: bkrummel @ 06/25/2009 6:58:10 PM

              You are getting carried away. If Sanford cuddled with someone warm in Argentina, it's none of your business. End of story.

      • Posted By: chris s. @ 06/24/2009 10:52:49 PM

        Private time, of course. Infidelity no! I'd imagine his family does not consider it "minor". What part of "take a vow" and commitment is so hard to understand?

        • Posted By: bkrummel @ 06/24/2009 11:37:03 PM

          I was referring to the minor mistake of Sanford vanishing without people knowing where he was.

          Yes the affair is a big mistake. But this mistake is between him and his wife (and to an extent his kids) and no one else. Moreover, Sanford apparently had the affair only over the last year with a "dear friend" he knew for 8 years. Things like people like this happen. People do not just stop falling in love just because they took a vow. What Sanford did was wrong but is understandable and ultimately forgivable. He and his wife are apparently working through this and we should hope they are successful. I don't think a media circus makes for this success.

          I am not Sanford's wife. He made some mistakes, but he was honest about this and this situation is ultimately understandable. I don't think Sanford has given me a substantial reason to distrust him. I still trust Sanford as a public servant.

          I think it is important to consider how these sex scandals effect our political dialogue. You and others getting upset over an affair is destroying a good public servant and is distracting from discussing other issues like the economy, health care, etc. Sanford's infidelity or disappearance shouldn't even be news and it only is because we are a nation of morally-uptight people and gossip-junkies. We need to refocus on real issues.

          To those reading and wondering why I am blowing Republican's error off, this has nothing to do with political parties. How Sanford, Clinton, and others have been treated over their sex lives is disgraceful. This is strictly about how we treat our public servants and fellow human beings. I think we treat them like sh*t if you ask me.

          • Posted By: SC_Native @ 06/25/2009 12:13:08 AM

            [He made some mistakes, but he was honest about this and this situation is ultimately understandable. I don't think Sanford has given me a substantial reason to distrust him.}

            He was not "ultimately honest". He got caught with his hand in his Cookie's jar. The only honorable person in this is his wife. She had the guts and dignity to throw the two-timing b**tard out. He lied to his staff, he lied to his family, he lied to his constituents, and as late as THIS MORNING, he lied to the reporter about where he was. Six hours later he confesses at least part of the truth. He misused public funds to go on his tryst. Great Family Values, Mark, you sanctimonious two-faced hypocrite. Good Job. I live in SC. He is a disgrace to himself, his family, the state and to everything that he touts as truth. How can you trust a liar? You cannot..

            • Posted By: bkrummel @ 06/25/2009 1:16:58 AM

              I think you are getting carried away. Your post exaggerates the extent to which Sanford lied and you are clearly making a bigger deal of this than the situation warrants.

              Yes, Sanford was unfaithful to his wife and this is very wrong, but this is strictly between him and his wife. Yes, Sanford misled his staff by saying he went one place, changed his mind, and went to Argentina instead. This really wasn't a big deal until the media and the public made it a big deal. Otherwise, he was honest about this whole situation. As soon as the media circus started, he came back, explained what happened, and apologized. Also. another Republican having an affair is hypocrisy. The Republicans need to stop pretending they have higher moral standing than they realistically have.

              That said, some of your complaints are silly. Of course he lied to the reporter; he wasn't going to give the reporter the scoop and explain where he really was until he had the press conference. As for the misuse of public funds, he went to Argentina 3 times on tax payer dime, once was in 2002 before the affair and it is unknown if he used public funds only to see his girlfriend the other times. The ticket for his most recent trip was paid from Sanford's own pocket. So this claim that he misused public funds and unsubstantiated.

              Everyone lies. Even you have lied. The real question here is whether Sanford is a habitual liar and whether it interferes with his job as governor. While an affair and a lie to his staff is reason for concern, I hardly think an affair with a long time friend and not telling the staff about changed personal plans count for being an overall dishonest person. You should consider whether before this incident Sanford has ever lied to you? If the answer is no, I think you should continue to trust the man.

    • Posted By: whizzkid43 @ 06/24/2009 8:20:41 PM

  • Posted By: NotFooledByDistractions @ 07/01/2009 4:33:52 PM

    Someone with some sense needs to tell Sanford to shut up. He just keeps embarrassing himself further. No sympathy from my camp - he knew what he was doing was wrong and did it anyway. If you want to cavort with your mistress, at least divorce your wife so she and your other family members aren't party to your shame. Cry your crocodile tears somewhere else, I'm not buyin' your schtick.

    He's just another shining example of the "do as I say, not as I do" republican party.

  • Posted By: sms29s66 @ 07/01/2009 6:28:10 AM

    I agree. But he is obviously communicating with Maria through the press and forcing us to eavesdrop. I don't want to know these very personal feelings of his. And what about the feelings of his wife? Think of her crushing humiiliation at the hands of this man who is behaving like a teenager.

  • Posted By: workunit @ 07/01/2009 1:48:12 AM

    I was ready to sit back,enjoy and watch another Republican squirm. Then I started to feel for him. I started to wonder what it would feel like if I were in his place. I feel that I would want to do what I had to do in order to try and live out the rest of my life, even if just a little bit happier than it is now. It seems clear that Sanford is very unhappy with his entire life and is looking to get out of all of it. He is saying and doing what he needs to do to achieve that goal.
    just my thought.

  • Posted By: sms29s66 @ 06/30/2009 7:04:41 PM

    This guy is totally bizarre. Now he admits to other women (no sex???) and says he will try to fall in love with his wife again? She has grounds for justifiable homicide.

  • Posted By: sms29s66 @ 06/30/2009 11:41:10 AM

    And now he expects the taxpayers of SC to support him on a personal/religious journey towards being a better person. He should do that on his own dime in the private sector.

  • Posted By: gatosgal @ 06/29/2009 5:28:33 PM

    This guy's cruising for a nervous breakdown. Just a matter of time.

  • Posted By: alabama777 @ 06/27/2009 9:32:20 PM

    Same song, just another verse. However, the one thing I do not understand is, how did he meet his paramour? Did he know her from his past life in South Carolina? Did she then become an Ex-Pat in South America? Or has she always been from Argentina, and did he meet her on some weird Internet message board for aspiring Christian adulterers? What is a Congressman or Governor doing trolling online and developing "dear" relationships with someone in another hemisphere if he is not battling demons in the first place? If these issues have been addressed, I missed it.

  • Posted By: alabama777 @ 06/27/2009 9:31:48 PM

    Same song, just another verse. However, the one thing I do not understand is, how did he meet his paramour? Did he know her from his past life in South Carolina? Did she then become an Ex-Pat in South America? Or has she always been from Argentina, and did he meet her on some weird Internet message board for aspiring Christian adulterers? What is a Congressman or Governor doing trolling online and developing "dear" relationships with someone in another hemisphere if he is not battling demons in the first place? If these issues have been addressed, I missed it.

  • Posted By: chris s. @ 06/26/2009 10:32:20 PM

    If someone in the military did this , they would be AWOL and there would be dire consequences. If I clock out for lunch and don't come back, in the required time, I'm fired. Being ill and not calling in, same thing. I think they call it desertion or something like that. So, it's about reponsibilty.

  • Posted By: martin173 @ 06/26/2009 9:27:24 PM

    not too bright? Asperger's? personality disorder? Something real wrong with this guy.

  • Posted By: From MT @ 06/26/2009 8:46:07 PM

    He is a disgrace: as a husband, a father, and as a governor. Rampant narcissism combined with a massive ego is not rare in politics, but this guy takes first prize.
    He told the reporter at the airport that he was 'close to' hating his job.

    Well, in that case, do everyone a favor and resign. Go ahead and tiptoe through the tulips with your girlfriend. We've got too much work to do to put up with your silly, juvenile shenanigans.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 06/26/2009 3:23:02 PM

    NEWSWEAK is on another of their ''media genius'' jags again [ unfortunately , NEWSWEAK cannot be ranked among these], by placing Jenny Sanford on the top of this list.

    The are wrong,of course. Michael Jacksons own shade is contributing to this ''genius'' by the mere dint of his shutting out all other news, [FOX and MSNBC being especially wretched] including that which was focusing on a probably relieved Sanford, a House Judicial Committee Chairman [ Democrat John Conyers of Michigan] whose wife is about to be sent upriver for a five year term for bribery, and this obscenity.

    At 1200 pages long, the Democrat leftwingers backing WAXMAN-MARKEY did not think that it was long enough. Remembering the effectiveness of creating bills with enough pages in them to outstack most copies of War and Peace still available in the world today, [ the ''Stimulus'' Bill that no-one ,including Obama, or either leader of Congress bothered to read,and we all know how well that is going ], Waxman, in the center of the Jackson media hoopla, goes back and tacks on another 300 PAGES to the bill clocking it in at 1501 pages in total.
    The stupidity of this bill is inherent in Pelosis trying to ram it through by 5:00 EST today,leaving Spanish lawmakers,of all people,to weigh in on Waxmans Folly by reminding Americans that ''we did that too. We are now at 18.2% unemployment''

    ''The powers that be have decided against it'' Remarks. John Conyers [D-Mi] to the Washington Times June 26,2009

    ''It'' is the investigation of ACORN by the Judiciary Committee ,now dropped by Conyers,despite outstanding trials and lawsuits in fourteen states delivered by fourteen state Attorneys General. Now we just have to find out who, these ''powers that be'' really are. With each day bringing forth some new insanity, [like Hoyer [D-Md], who is rapidly becoming the Houses most stupid man next to Obey, hiring Black Congressional Caucus members to ''investigate'' other Black Congressional Caucus members for misappropriation of public funds, or, foxes trying foxes in a fox court over chicken stealing], Sanford is already becoming old news.


  • Posted By: wildechild66 @ 06/26/2009 12:04:13 AM

    While I am disappointed in Governor Sanford, I respect his willingness to behave with character. Too often, we hold our elected officials to a standard to which we do not even hold ourselves. To brush him off as "more of the same" brings an indecent amount of cynicism to an already disillusioned citizenry. This time, I think we need to choose not to denigrate our politicians. If we continually treat our elected officials with contempt and scorn, soon only those worthy of contempt and scorn will want to run for office.

  • Posted By: MChieco @ 06/25/2009 11:32:25 PM

    As govenor his duty is to be the guardian of the State. He did not just abandon his wife and children {on fathers day no less} he abandoned his State. No excuses. He should resign.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 06/25/2009 10:22:40 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphohZs9nuQ&feature=player_embedded

    Here's [Maria] The [Sophisticated] Tanned and Beautiful Woman that Sanford Could Not Resist ...

    You Decide

  • Posted By: brydges @ 06/24/2009 3:16:53 PM

    Democrats preaching family values only prooves how hypocritical they are. The guy is a scumbag, but look at the brighter picture, maybe his wife can make a name for herself out of all this and run for president. The same people on this blog calling him out are most likely the same people that defended Clinton. The difference between Repubs and dems is the repubs will throw him out of office next election if he makes it that far. If he was a Dem they would be saying "what does having an afair have to do with running a state."

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 06/25/2009 8:54:52 PM

      brydges, Please, do us all a favor and just once read your comment all the way through, checking for literacy. Then and ONLY then hit "post". It's like chalk on a blackboard. You can do this!

    • Posted By: Nero @ 06/24/2009 5:01:25 PM

      There is a huge difference with the Clinton saga and this one. Clinton never went around preaching family values; nor had he said a word about being a Christian and that we all should uphold the Christian morality. This scumbag should not only be ashamed but he should resign as Spitzer did, with shame.

      • Posted By: brydges @ 06/24/2009 5:18:25 PM

        I agree he should resign in shame. I was unaware however that Clinton did not take an oath of marriage. LOL
        Is it Sanford actions you have a problem with or his honesty. I have a problem with both, just like Clinton who had an afair and then cintinued to lie until he had no other choice.
        G. W. get's blamed for torturiing terorists but I never heard him preech that we shouldn't so I guess he's off the hook with the bleeding hearts right? Tell me oh sheepish one what's the difference again.

        • Posted By: chris s. @ 06/24/2009 11:11:40 PM

          brydges, You admire him for his honesty? You're a sad, sad person. I've not stood in front of the American people and said I'm against murder. Unless I declare to the world that I am against something, it's okay? By your logic, I can go out and murder. Right?

          • Posted By: brydges @ 06/25/2009 10:37:50 AM

            retard read the posts above first and see I was making a point about hypocrisy

            • Posted By: chris s. @ 06/25/2009 8:42:23 PM

              brydges, Duh! I did! I'm refering to the part where he didn't "preech" against torture, so he's off the hook.. Still you admire his honesty? Don't call names! It makes for a very low level of discussion and dilutes your argument.

        • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/25/2009 9:13:38 AM

          You GOP whimpering losers will be invoking the name of Clinton and Reagan until your party is completely dryed up.

          Clinton = Satan Reagan = God. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! you simpleton

        • Posted By: vertigo @ 06/25/2009 4:18:16 AM

          Bush broke the law in order to torture, then lied about it. "America does not torture". Shades of "I did not have sex with that woman", except having sex isn't illegal. See the difference Sean?

    • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 06/24/2009 3:20:19 PM

      She likely already knew about it and condoned it. Man you guys continue to amaze. The chutzpah of some of youse.

      • Posted By: brydges @ 06/24/2009 3:22:46 PM

        Aparently so did his wife since she's known for five months. Either way they are both scum. The difference is the party and that's all that matters to the media and the sheep.

        • Posted By: jlm556 @ 06/25/2009 4:30:16 AM

          hahahahaha..... damned Dems, So I suppose Hilliary is "scum" as well.... I mean she is a "strong" woman after all! Great If all women that deal with their cheating husband are scum... I'm sure glad that we as a country have scum representing us to the already sexist countries of the world as our Sec. of State!!!

          • Posted By: brydges @ 06/25/2009 10:40:27 AM

            "Great If all women that deal with their cheating husband are scum"
            Ignoring the problem for political game is not dealing with it. you are sad

        • Posted By: chris s. @ 06/24/2009 11:04:46 PM

          She's scum? I doubt if she knew for months. She, no doubt, knew something was wrong. The woman was taking care of four boys. That's an easy task? Be quiet if you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe she was the one who needed a "break". Great generalization! Do you live in their house? How you can twist this is incredulous!

        • Posted By: sms29s66 @ 06/24/2009 7:46:43 PM

          She's scum for trying to make a go of it? For not throwing in the towel the minute she discovers it? Surely you didn't mean this.

    • Posted By: I'm all in @ 06/25/2009 9:10:42 AM

      He's a two termer in his last term. As long as the KKK and Neo-nazis and your fellow racists don't want him out sooner he's safe.

    • Posted By: Nor-Cal for Obama @ 06/24/2009 7:36:09 PM

      You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. It's pathetic that some are so partisan they will throw out the logical argument and continue a noise banter of nonsense and hate to keep themselves for acknowledging the obvious : Republicans, for years, have run on the "moral high ground", the party of "moral values, families, and tradition" In reality these men are all hypocrites.

      Stop trying to turn this around on Democrats, when they have nothing to do with this Republicans actions.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 06/25/2009 7:25:31 PM

    Omaar: My Thoughts on Human Behavior.


    Every Human Being is Capable of Decency,But All Humans are [Carnal] Its Embedded in our DNA, The Power of Attraction, is More Powerful than [Money,Political Power,Religion or Fame] as a Matter of fact, having the [Particulars] I Highlighted, makes a Person More [Susceptible] to [Carnality,Temptation & Unbridled Lust]

    It is [Impossible To Be Moral]

    Decent, Good, Fair & Balanced [Yes]

    Moral [No]

    Moral Requires [Perfection & Being Flawless] Without Error..

    We Humans are Incapable of [Morality] there is No Room for Error..Sorry but its [True]

    I will be Glad when Political Persuasions and Clerics Expose these Truths about themselves and others.

    We are Carnal Beings, Trying to Rise Above our Carnality, its a Daily Struggle, because the Powers of [Physical Attraction, Desire & Lust] are a Constant in our [Lives]

    Think & Be Open & Honest To Yourself & Others, As I have in this Post

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