Murder Most Feline

It was a horrifying crime that terrified a Florida community and animal lovers nationwide. The nabbing of a suspect hasn't necessarily brought peace of mind.

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  • Posted By: eire1957 @ 07/02/2009 10:48:25 AM

    Well I thnk he should be skinned and have his head bashed in to see how it feels like. Good thing he was caught because he next victims would have been human. This is the pattern of a serial killer. I don't care if anyone likes what I said. That's how I feel. Some people love their animals like they were family. If you never had a pet then you don't know what that feels like. It feels like hell, like you are losing a family member.

    • Posted By: moggyskinner @ 09/22/2009 1:24:52 AM

      i think they should give him a medal,too many cats in the world

    • Posted By: Observer Of Things @ 07/05/2009 8:08:18 AM

      I agree wholeheartedly. We would see a lot less crime in this nation - a LOT less - if we had an 'eye for an eye" justice system.

  • Posted By: areklein @ 07/31/2009 4:37:19 PM

    I have never, ever in my life wanted to smack someone across the face so hard. Shame on him. Shame on his parents. And shame on the other commenters who think that ANY part of these heinous crimes should be even at part the fault of the pet owners. And let's also send our condolences to the families who lost their beloved kitties and I hope so hard that one day everyone will value the life of every living creature.

  • Posted By: chicabaker @ 07/07/2009 12:44:50 PM

    This is disturbing on a lot of levels. This young man looks like he had a lot of anger and resentment and took it out on cats, which by some weird similarity, his dad's new wife loves cats. I really hope he gets some help along with any punishment that may come, so that we don't have to read about this guy 10 years from now because he leaves mutilated bodies across the country.

  • Posted By: deedle7 @ 07/06/2009 8:21:19 PM

    hlgns763...
    Maybe it's poor parenting that is to blame for this little opportunistic sadist's actions, rather than poor pet parenting....which is irrelevant here. Criminal behavior is criminal behavior. You are correct that cat owners should be responsible - many let their cats roam. I have four and all are trained to stay in the yard. It can be done, no matter what the cat haters claim.

    FYI...secure the yard with fencing, provide shelter/food/water, plant catnip close to the house (under the eaves up against the foundation is perfect), place bird baths/feeders in yard....if they stray next door, they come in for the day. In a few weeks, they learn that if they want to stay outside, they have to stay in the yard.

    If this youngster committed these crimes, he should fess up to it...but he's too scared and pampered to do that. He needs about 4 years in the Marine Corps. Semper Fi.

  • Posted By: lakotasu @ 07/02/2009 2:24:11 AM

    Can't the "experts" do the "math"? This kid's behavior escalated after the divorce of his parents and his father's subsequent remarriage to a woman who "was an ardent cat lover". This kid has major problems and the divorce and re-marriage brought them out! He needs extensive psychotherapy on an in-patient basis followed by years of outpatient counseling and monitoring. And Daddy's new wife had better watch her back, because *she* is the actual target of the anger this kid has. And Daddy needs to wise up and take a realistic look at this situation. His son is deeply troubled and the whole family dynamics are contributing to it. They ALL need to be involved in the kid's treatment...family therapy is of utmost importance here if this kid is to come out of this and not progress to killing and torturing people...especially women, since that is his *real* focus...the rage and hatred of his stepmother.

    • Posted By: hlgns763 @ 07/06/2009 10:43:12 AM

      perfect analysis. this is can pretty much be considered a case closed, guilty kind of thing. he gets caught and suddenly the killings stop. ummm, yeah, hes the guy.

      as for the pet owners, i feel for you, i have a cat and a dog..... BUT, i dont let my small, pretty much defensless cat hang outside all day. not only are there dangers of getting hit by vehicles, there are plenty of predators around, even in the metro twin cities areas. all it takes is a hungry hawk to swoop down on your 5-20 lb cat and you never see it again. there are predatory birds, other pets, fox, and all other kinds of animals looking for a nice, domesticated, declawed meal.

      yes "cats need to be free"...free to run all over the house and not around the block. poor pet parenting.

    • Posted By: laramy @ 07/05/2009 11:07:38 AM

      Now this is the most intelligent post on the thread. Very disturbed young man.

  • Posted By: Aaron S. @ 07/03/2009 8:17:42 PM

    redlance23:
    Ah, I see. I guess I was missing the point. The way the report was worded, it sounded like people were disturbed by the animal cruelty itself, not just the pathology. Thanks for the correction.

    • Posted By: acninee @ 07/05/2009 2:13:13 PM

      Aaron, I do see your poiint about pet vs. agricultural animals. But I don't think the answer to solve the hippocracy by becoming more callus to the fate of the pets. I think it would be better to leverage the understanding people have about the suffering of the pet and to lead them to extend it to an understanding of the capacity of the factory farm animal to suffer. (For the record, I am growing my consious in regards to this, I have not given up factory farmed meat foods, but I am beginnng to explore the options I may have to lessen my impact.)

  • Posted By: acninee @ 07/05/2009 2:02:48 PM

    Snapnhiss, there is some logic in what you say. If I lost a cat to violence I would probably keep my remaining cats in for some time. However, we must consider that your logic, by extension, would say that if a girl in the neighborhood was attacked, all girl children should be kept home from school or play in order to provide them with protection. Our society does not subscribe to that. Blame belongs to the perpetrator, not to the victim. In the final analysis I believe this to be as true in the case of feline as it is in the case of human victims

  • Posted By: snapnhiss @ 07/05/2009 12:37:15 PM

    The woman lost four cats in quick succession... did she ever consider keeping her cats inside after the first one went missing? Idiot.

  • Posted By: Robin Steele @ 07/05/2009 11:56:40 AM

    The propensity for violence toward animals, combined with the description of his personality makes this young man a prime candidate for serial killer. 2 shrink visits a week will only reinforce his resolve to move on toward human targets. The laws must be changed to allow for not only greater protection to companion animals, but also to allow psych. incarceration indefinably for such offenders, until it can be determined that they are safe. Further, typically the most dangerous of these people tend to act the least so, not to be freed, but to get on with the killing that they feel is their purpose. Therefore, some of these people should never again see the light of day. It is my feeling that this is one such offender.

  • Posted By: laramy @ 07/05/2009 11:15:49 AM

    For all the commenters who call for him to receive the same death - an eye for a n eye makes the whole world blind. I know you cannot hear what I say but violence begets violence. We become the offender when we do the same to him. There are jails and mental institutions for these offenders. Examine your own need for violent retaliation. You will never soothe your anger until you take a look at what is making you angry. Sorry if I offend but just the simple truth. Peace be with you.

  • Posted By: JrzWrld @ 07/05/2009 8:41:42 AM

    UpstateNewYorker, I'm with you, and Florida is the last place I would be letting my cats roam outside! But a lot of them were strays who had been adopted after they showed up at a house. A lot of people think it's cruel to bring such cats indoors. Truth of the matter is that they actually do quite well indoors usually. My own semi-feral cat only ever had one mess in the house over the course of more than a decade and has no desire to be outdoors ever again. Switching direction a little, I'm totallyl freaked out that this guy was ever in a position that allowed him access to younger children. I freely admit that I am an armchair psychologist, but the fact that he seemed well-adjusted to all around him (being caught with marijuana isn't exactly the crime of the century) while allegedly committing these abuses indicates to me that he is most likely a garden-variety psychopath - but a highly intelligent one. He's not doing this because he was horribly abused as a child or suffered trauma, but because he can.

  • Posted By: UpstateNewYorker @ 07/05/2009 7:04:31 AM

    It sounds as though the victims of these horrific crimes were outdoors. My vet always tells me to keep my cat indoors. Outdoor cats have a shorter life expectancy. Besides the possibility of a sick person harming them, they can be attacked by other cats or predators; come across a poisonour pllant or food; and pick up parasites, ticks, and oter cat-borne illnesses. Keep your cat indoors, and you wll know where it is at all times. If your cat likes to roam, he should get used to being kept indoors after a while (yes, he may drive you crazy for a while, but he'll probably adjust soon.)

  • Posted By: UpstateNewYorker @ 07/05/2009 7:02:00 AM

    IIt sounds like these horrific crimes were done on outdoor cats. My vet always tells you "keep your cat indoors at all times"; it is not just because of the harm that could befall them in different ways--although often they can be attacked by dogs or other predators. It is also because a cat kept outdoors has a lower life expectancy than an indoor cat. THey can get parasites from feral cats, for example; pick up fleas or ticks, or get into a plant or something else that makes them ill. The best solution: keep your pets indoors! Even if they like to roam, they will get used to it eventually. You will know where they are, and that they are safe.

  • Posted By: Personwhocares @ 07/05/2009 4:48:05 AM

    The article does not indicate if the cats were all outdoor cats, and he is being charged with 4 counts of burglary. If the person who did this broke into someones home for the purpose of killing and maiming an animal (in this case cats) that is a very cold blooded and planned act.

  • Posted By: Aaron S. @ 07/02/2009 6:41:52 PM

    What do you bet the "terrified cat owners" went out to console themselves after this mess with some nice, factory-farmed comfort food? I'll apologize for the rude comment, but I just can't understand how people can get so upset about a few cat killings when they're eating tortured animals for lunch every day. When a kid does it, it's "psychopathy" worth the attention of the police, but when millions more go through worse, hey, that's just business :\ I guess that's a tired, old song, though...

    • Posted By: redlance23 @ 07/02/2009 7:42:26 PM

      Hey Aaron you are either missing the point or purposefully pushing a different one. If this nutjob coward did the same thing to a farmer's cows, chickens, sheep, etc... it would be equally as horrifying. It's what he did and the way he did it that is a red flag for deeper issues. Anyone who plots the abduction of neighborhood animals and finished them off in various ways, that would make a splatterpunk feature killer proud, has some MAJOR issues and needs serious long-term therapy. How do you think people like Jeffrey Dahmer start out? This is one seriously deranged and twisted punk kid. One can only guess at the level of violence and torture he actually aspires to or may attain in life. People need to keep close tabs on this looney.

  • Posted By: greymulder @ 07/02/2009 6:03:10 PM

    George W. Imbecile used to blow up frogs as a kid: http://www.all-creatures.org/aip/nl-3nov2000-frogs.html
    and he went on to destroy the entire western financial system, and maybe civilization itself.

    Karl Rove should start work on this Weinman kid now; he may be ready to enter the Republican primary in maybe 6 years.

  • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 07/02/2009 5:46:05 PM

    I agree with eire on one point, certainly... for people who love their critters, the death of one is like losing a member of the family. This kid (or whoever committed these crimes) is a scary individual, lacking in the kind of empathy that makes civilization possible, by leading MOST of us take account of the well-being of others... but there is something wrong with this person beyond simply lacking concern for other people or other creatures... this one evidently derived some substantial PLEASURE from inflicting pain. THAT is certainly a serious pathology.

  • Posted By: gebanks @ 07/02/2009 3:05:25 PM

    The kid is likely a psychopath. This behavior isn't uncommon in them. They often graduate to doing similar things to humans. Psychotherapy and medications have not been shown to help. Probably best to put them away for 20 or 30 years. They sometimes lose the violent tendencies.

  • Posted By: Frederick Furreal @ 07/02/2009 12:13:11 PM

    There are many perspectives on this matter that change with the persons location, (urban/rural/eastern/western/etc.) I live a mile away from my nearest neighbor and my cats and dog roam at their own discretion. But, when I lived in the city I kept them inside. In that urban setting there were people that flipped out if there was a cat in their yard or on their car so I kept them in to protect them from harm. The thing is, people don't take other people seriously when they proclaim themselves to be "cat haters."

    So I am all for keeping cats inside if your neighbors obviously hate them. (and you should talk to them about it to take the break the ice on the subject) It is the only way to keep your cats truly safe.

  • Posted By: westwingpotus @ 07/02/2009 1:27:48 AM

    Smacked:

    Oh Gosh you think? Or to put it another way: Well Duh.

    However the point was that NEITHER the mentally deranged freaky neighbor boy or the wild animal just doing what comes naturally if going to be able to kill your domesticated cat if the owner was just smart/responsible enough to keep it indoors where it belongs instead of treating it like it???s disposable.

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