Out of Work, Out of Hope

U.S. unemployment is inching toward 10 percent. What will that mean to you? Nothing good.  

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  • Posted By: nawawimohamad @ 07/12/2009 10:55:36 AM

    But why does the government still spending billions for war, destruction, killing and benefitting the few businesses in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan?

  • Posted By: Robin Steele @ 07/02/2009 2:07:24 PM

    Here's a news flash: If you work in the IT field and you lost your job, it's never coming back. The number of people needed to operate increasingly automated and more stable client server and peer to peer networks will continue to diminish, because even though Windows is a piece of crap and all that, the simple fact is that XP and later based machines do not go down with nearly the frequency of NT systems. Netware is practically if not completely gone, (I'm guessing completely because my spell checker flagged the word), and hardware and software on the desktop have radically slowed in the introduction of USEFUL new features or performance. This is one entire sector that will continue to shrink, no matter what happens. Added to that the outsourcing of help desk jobs overseas, and the whole industry, as far as jobs are concerned, seems to have been just a fad. Prepackaged database solutions have obliterated the programming arena, and that throws the ball back int the court of the jobs that are of an actual value, manufacturing, and the trades. Colleges today strip families bare of their savings and for what? to waste time and money of students who would be better served learning to cook, or weld, while turning out graduates who've nothing better to do than to figure out ways to get piles of money for nothing while trashing our economy. Has our life, collectively been nothing more than slaving away to pay taxes, pay for college, pay for the theft currently being perpetrated on us by those who have seized power in Washington, only to give up whats left, as we finish out our days dying in some high priced hospital bed? Why does anybody put up with this?

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 07/02/2009 2:51:18 PM

      I think you're overexaggerating the case in terms of computing jobs, though.

      I'm a programmer, and after my last job search I had two job offers open to me before deciding to turn both down and return to working in my family's business, just because I was sick of the pressure in corporate America and having to deal with a lot of people who were just there to collect a paycheck. There are computing jobs out there, and there will continue to be computing jobs out there, as it remains one of the most active areas of development and research and technological progess in the 21st century.

      • Posted By: John Dough @ 07/02/2009 3:10:13 PM

        Be careful a local compnay here moved their entire IT Dept. to India saving them millions of dollars via lower pay and benefits if any.

        • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 3:25:53 PM

          They sent help desk overseas and typically simple programming which is the equivalent of using word.. The really good stuff stays where the company is located because it is too complicated to try to explain to someone that isn't in the business...

        • Posted By: Vigilance @ 07/02/2009 4:34:35 PM

          When I choose to start looking for work, I look for the work that is available, here, now, not the work that used to be here that is no longer available anymore. :P

          The work that is here is available, and pays money. The work that is no longer here any more is not available, and does not pay money, so it is not profitable for me to spend a whole lot of time and effort chasing after it if I would like to be employed.

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 07/02/2009 2:49:17 PM

      The problem you're mentioning is a larger problem, which I would call the "paradox of progress". To see it in action, take it to its most extreme manifestation - let's say someone invents a machine that takes care of all the needs of the human race. Food, entertainment, shelter...all of these things are instantly and forever taken care of. Sounds great, sounds wonderful, except that it would also put every single human being out of work, forever.

      Whether or not the world likes it, I think the paradox of progress is going to usher in a worldwide shift towards "socialism", such as it were - not the paranoid, Stalinist, command-economy-driven fears of the present right, but simply a situation where various world governments are going to have to provide jobs and/or financial support to a great number of people whose jobs have been lost simply due to the fact that technological progress is obliterating a vast amount of the work needed to produce any given good or service.

      We can talk about the auto industry and their failures, such as they are, until we're blue in the face, but the reality is that we have made a lot of cars and trucks in America. People might WANT a fancier car, but increasing car production isn't an urgent societal need the way it was in, say, 1955, because there are enough cars out there to do the job.

      Computing, as you noticed, is another area where progress will eliminate the need for some jobs - though I think in general computing is going to be a massive growth area in the 21st century, not a loss.

      The newspaper industry is similar and probably the best example of the "paradox of progress". It used to take armies of loggers cutting down trees, papermill workers, printing press workers, and far more journalists and editors and what-have-you to put a daily newspaper on someone's table. Now, most of us get our news online - a great and wonderful example of technological progress. No deforestation, no polluting mill, and it's easy and offers nearly unlimited possibilities for news sources. And, in the process, it's putting just about every print magazine and publication out of business.

      Progress is a great and wonderful thing and just about every human on the planet benefits from it in the long run - look how much better off we are than a hundred years ago. People eat better, are healthier, and live longer and travel all over the world with comparative ease, compared to the past. But we as a species are going to have to find a working system to replace the jobs that have been lost not due to malice, ineptitude or any other evil, just simply because time marches on, and because in the end a lot of industries don't have the labor demand they used to, due to that paradox of progress.

  • Posted By: John Dough @ 07/02/2009 9:53:46 PM

    The stimulus plan was not a job creation plan it was a pay back to democratic supporters plan. Unemployment will hit 10% far exceeding the 8% level Obama said it would stop at with the stimulus package. The dems also let the lid off their tax plan somewhat during a Q & A before congress:
    Income Taxes are going up
    SS Taxes are going up
    Medicare Taxes are going up
    Cap and Trade will skyrocket energy costs, move thousands of jobs overseas, close coal plants, coal mines, refineries, cost transportation jobs, durabkle goods will go up in price, food prices will rise dramatically due to increased shipping costs, your utility bills will double, manufacturing jobs will flee the U.S. and the supposed reduction in greenhouse gases will not occur because no other countries will engage in Cap and Trade. In fact current estimates indicate that greenhouse gas production globally will double for every ton of greenhouse gas the U.S. stops producing countries like China, India and others with emerging economies will create two tons because we have pollutioon control equipment and filters in place to reduce our emissions they do not. Net result of Cap and Trade: Massive tax increase (Largest tax increase in global history) hundreds of thousands of jobs lost, plants idled and more jobs moving overseas likely including whole corporations to avoid these taxes.
    Democrat or GOPer write your senators and light up their phone lines this bill is a nation killer and will destroy our standard of living. Maybe we will have to sneak into Mexico illegally for jobs. Get congress back to the GOP before it is too late,. The dems are in a mad rush to pass all this crap because they know it is unpopular and is going to be a job killing monster that will actually create more pollution. They along with Obama are trying to cram all this socialist junk in now fearing they will lose congress in 2010 and rightly so. They must also believe the GOP will not be able to undo it once it is all passed. TERM LIMITS are needed for congress let's get them out.before they destroy our nation as we know it.


    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 07/03/2009 12:04:40 PM

      You know, if you factor in the six hundred billion dollar cost of invading Iraq into our oil costs, renewable power starts to look a LOT less expensive. :P

      • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 3:21:41 PM

        $600B factor in would still make oil a much much cheaper fuel source!

    • Posted By: bbull3 @ 07/06/2009 3:01:45 PM

      This will lead to higher prices for imports that do not use cap and trade, leading to more consumption of goods produced in the US that will be more efficient, leading to more US jobs, leading to efficient cars created in the US, leading to doing something (although probably too little too late) on global warming, leading to the US recapturing a leading spot in science and innovation, leading to more enterprise in newer areas. True, you do not want goverment running companies, but if DARPA did not create the internet, you would not have had the boom we had in the 90's.
      As far as the socialist junk they are pushing, between that and the robber-barons, I will take a little socialism. I would like to move into the 2010's not the 1910's

    • Posted By: bjsassy @ 07/02/2009 11:05:28 PM

      Well saiid, John Dough. You put the facts right on the line.

  • Posted By: Leftiesarestupid @ 07/06/2009 8:37:28 AM

    The stimulus has failed. Spending more money we don't have is insane. Now Obama wants to socialize medicine. Is anybody ready to say enough?

    • Posted By: bbull3 @ 07/06/2009 2:52:59 PM

      Why was it okay for Pres. Bush to spend money we didn't have on the war in Iraq and a huge tax cut for the rich? Was trickle down supposed to work this time even though it didn't work in the 80's and led to another huge budget deficit. Why are all the right wingers suddenly deficit hawks again, but were oddly quiet for the last few years?

  • Posted By: Indigo7 @ 07/05/2009 12:12:58 PM

    Well Boka, I suppose some of us do live under a rock. Has nobody in your family lost a job in this economy yet? Oh wait your a Rockefeller or an oil fortune heir aren't you? Speaking of lazy punks. You have time to make inflammatory comments now go get a job yourself.

    • Posted By: Boka @ 07/05/2009 1:16:53 PM

      I did lose my job. And got another one. I didn't complain. I didn't get a hand out. I got a job a few weeks after getting laid off.

      • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 2:26:32 PM

        That's great and I'm very glad to hear it. However, taking unemployment INSURANCE isn't a handout. If you pay taxes, especially if you're a hard worker, I want you to ake the benefits if you need them. That's a nice change instead of those that steal the benefits!

  • Posted By: The Messiah @ 07/06/2009 9:54:37 AM

    True unemployment will exceed 25% nation wide. The bogus government U3 numbers will show about 15% as we suffer thru the worse economic depression in history. Bama thinks he can lie his way out of the mess he is creating.

    • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 2:24:35 PM

      It is already at 20%. The numbers reported do not count everyone.

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 10:41:14 AM

    Republican: Sotomayor had ties to extreme group




    WASHINGTON (AP) - The top Republican on the Senate committee that will consider Sonia Sotomayor's Supreme Court nomination says a Puerto Rican civil rights group's papers could shed light on her judicial approach, particularly her view of racial preferences in hiring.
    White House Counsel Greg Craig, however, told Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., in a letter that board meeting minutes and other papers detailing the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund's activities while Sotomayor was an outside adviser shouldn't impact her nomination because she had no role in writing or approving them.
    "During her time there, the organization took extreme positions on legal issues ranging from the death penalty to abortion to racial quotas," Sessions said in a statement. He said it was "absurd" for the White House to call the documents irrelevant.
    The battle over the papers isn't likely to damage Sotomayor's chances of confirmation, since Democrats have more than enough votes in favor of President Barack Obama's first high court nominee, and Republicans have shown little appetite for trying to block her.
    Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which will begin confirmation hearings July 13, shrugged off the GOP concerns being raised about Sotomayor, saying some in the GOP were going to oppose any Obama pick - "even if the president had nominated Moses."
    Republicans "were going to object no matter who it was. And several of them have told me that privately," Leahy told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vermont farmhouse.
    Republicans did not respond to requests for comment about Leahy's remarks.
    Sotomayor early last month gave the Judiciary panel documents she contributed to or helped write while she was a board member of the group from 1980 to 1992, but Leahy joined Sessions recently in asking for more information about the group's activities and policy positions while she was involved.

    • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 1:59:20 PM

      Personally I can evern overlook her racist remarks if she can do just one thing. Read and comprehend english specifically the consititution of the united states and judge based solely on that and not her political or racist predjudice. If she can than I'd say fine if she can't send her elsewhere..

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/02/2009 3:31:11 PM

    Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists,Marxists and Obama supporters, et al: We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce.
    I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.
    Here is a model separation agreement: Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them.
    You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them). We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street.
    You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.
    You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are u nder assault, we'll help provide them
    security. We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U. N.. but we will no longer be paying the bill.
    We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.
    We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.
    We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot.
    Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.
    I'll bet you ANY WAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

    • Posted By: Puhfista @ 07/03/2009 8:56:41 AM

      Lol, I do not think I would be happy in EITHER of those countries. Can we form a country with anyone who wants to work hard, and leave the liberals the lazy leeches and useless hippies, and leave the right wing extremists all the hypocritical war mongers? I would be happy to live in that country.

      • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 1:55:12 PM

        AMEN!!! I mean that in a secular way.. Keep your government out of my god and your god out of my governement. May god (insert your beliefs here) save the USA!

      • Posted By: research99 @ 07/06/2009 1:38:43 PM

        I agree! There needs to be a third piece of the pie for the libertarians. Republican bible-thumpers can stay on their land, and liberals can hold hands on theirs. Meanwhile, the libertarians won't bring religion or government intervention into business or personal lives. The government will set laws, enforce them, and keep their hands off my money.

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 07/03/2009 11:45:34 AM

      Actually, that sounds genuinely spectacular.

      I'm on board. Write your representatives.

      • Posted By: harley99 @ 07/06/2009 10:34:14 AM

        Still free in the USA--I'm with you all the way..

      • Posted By: Vigilance @ 07/03/2009 11:51:42 AM

        Keep the biodiesel, though. That actually is more of a right-wing thing, there. Biodiesel does not turn out to be genuinely very good for the environment, also many of us liberals/progressives believe it is a bad idea to tie our food supply and our fuel supply together so that bad growing years drastically damage both at the same time.

        Instead, we'd prefer the renewables. Solar panels, wind turbines, hybrids, the electric car, and et cetera. In exchange you may have every car that gets 25MPG or less. Lots of great trucks, Hummers, and SUVs perfect for a young Quiverfull couple there, I believe you guys will be very happy.

    • Posted By: Nor-Cal for Obama @ 07/02/2009 3:55:35 PM

      Good, we want a divorce from your insane psycho babble, hate, ignorance and stupid rhetoric. ALL YOU nuts can do is preach fear and disaster, you have no real understanding of the matters you speak of.

      Bunch of ditto heads.

  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 07/02/2009 3:43:29 PM

    still free in the usa.

    Can you please tell me what gives you the idea that your right win opinions hold any credibility outside your small, and getting smaller circle of fellow nuts?

    Can't be the mounting losses in the polls.

    Can't be the mounting losses in your representatives (Senate, and Congress).

    Can't be in the image that you have in your own Republican party.

    Can't be what the statistics tell you about the future, or I should say lack of future you guys have.

    So please pal, all rants aside...... Exactly what is it that you guys don't understand when Americans tell you repeatedly to go fly a kite ????

    Reason I am asking is because when I tried to read some of the opinions to this article, all I could find is rant, after rant of incoherances from you.... About Obama and Iran, Venezuela, the economy, health care, social security..... Pal please take some tranquilizer, and go to sleep, no offense but you might be loosing it.

    • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 1:48:35 PM

      Just for the record democrats are falling like flys too. only 29% of the country considers themselves democrats and only 22% consider themselves republicans. the remaining 51% say the both suck. Think for youself a little. FYI: Global Warming is now being called Global weather change because NASA released data showing record low tempertures for all of 2008 and part of 2009 that show we are colder now than any time in the last 100 years. Please start using the new nomoclature so that people realize that CO2 causes weather change not global warming..

    • Posted By: bighead1191 @ 07/02/2009 4:12:51 PM

      Its the scourge of online posting boards. The ratio of idiots to sane people is 100:1. That ratio may have gotten much worse though.

      • Posted By: harley99 @ 07/06/2009 10:41:51 AM

        gvilligran3--Actually-ranting and stupidity is all I can see the Bama supporters doing. Will you please in your self proclaimed high intelligence put in to WORDS just what Bama has actually done for this country-for the people and for society. Instead of going off on, from what I can see from this link the idiotic rantings that so in character with Bama supporters. First it is attack, then ridicule then make degrading remarks then acuse the people they are degrading of doing EXACTLY what they are doing instead. Now lets see if you actually LIST what the president has done or instead follow the usual pattern and attact this post...

  • Posted By: gvillagran3 @ 07/02/2009 2:50:36 PM

    still free in the usa.

    Let me get this straight. You think that this economy is Obamas fault after inheriting the biggest economic-financial mess from the Bush administration..... Were you "still free in the USA " in 2008, or were you living in Mars, and had no news papers, or tv available to you?

    OH, my mistake , I get it.... You are not much for reality are you? Apparently you believe that Obama is supposed to fix the economy in a grand total of 5 months, or else is all his fault. It makes me wander why is it that you people that had such incrediblly high expectations of Obama, did not vote for him in the first place. The only explanation possible has to be that your expectations for the Republican candidate were even higher, and logically that has to translate then in you expecting a full economic recovery in 2 months, return to surpluses, and McCain walking on water, while dancing like Mikel Jackson to keep you happy correct? Of course the other possibility is that you are nothing more than a raving partisan with nothing to add to discurse, or reason than wherever you can parrot from Limbaugh radio "shows" .

    Now if we go back to reality here pal.... You might want to live the adult stuff to Obama, while you guys in the Right WIng try to at least get a leader that does not make the rest of us Americans laugh, or puke. After all I do have a very, very, very hard problem taking seriously any one that believes evolution is B.S. global warming is a hox from Scientists, and Sadam was responsible for 9-11 , now trying to give us "opinions" about the economy, and Obama's 5 month old presidency.

    So in conclusion is not that you expect so much from Obama, or you expected even more from McCain .... You are simply a Right Wing partisan raving hack looking for some one to blame for your mistakes. That's OK pal, we Americansd understand your kind..... Would like to send you to "live free" in Mongolia, but can't because as an American you have the right to act , and talk ....... Right WIng like. That is to say, take no responsability for your mistakes, and blame the Democrats for everything, while pretending that this kind of behavior can be taken seriously by any one other than your friends in the Right.



    • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 1:43:20 PM

      Let me make something clear to both sides. McCain would've screwed it up too. Can both sides for once realize that the sides don't even represent you or your beliefs! A republican that looks at McCain or Bush and thinks either of them represent small govenment had rabies. If a democrat thinks Obama is doing anything different than Bush or McCain you have rabies AND are foaming at the mouth. Obama is following the same Bush failed economic policies the same Bush war plans, the same Gitmo kangaroo courts. Nothing has changed except Obama is spending more, but that's a typicall democrats responce and Bush would have spent more too just probably not as much and he probably would have said national security about 1000 times more than Obama. Both parties are killing this country. We need to vote, we need to write, and more importantly those of you who can get off of the party line BS need to RUN for office!!! We all know the bailouts aren't going to work, that money should have gone directly to the taxpayer to keep them alive through the recession. We all know GM is bound for disaster. We all know making it so your house has to be certified green in the cap and tax bill will kill housing even more. We all know they are taxing us into a corner. Lets stop this ignorant bickering and start running for office on common sense. OH YEA AUDIT THE DAMN FED!

    • Posted By: harley99 @ 07/06/2009 10:52:24 AM

      gvillagran3--you really need to read and learn something before you post. You are a true IDIOT. You continue to try and blame the current state of this country being TRILLIONS of dollars in debt, after all the money that the great king obama gave away like candy on everyone but the current administration. And he continues to try and sink the country. Don't bother to post an insult as I seldom visit this site, I was only reading this dribble due to my intrique with Still free in the USA. Unfortunatly such dumb f----- as yourself are the reason I don't go to these sites.

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 11:56:21 AM

    In a small town in the United States, the place looks almost totally deserted. It is tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
    Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.

    He enters the towns only hotel, lays a 100 Dollar Bill on the reception counter as a deposit, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one.

    The hotel proprietor takes the 100 Dollar Bill and runs to pay his debt to the butcher.

    The Butcher takes the 100 Dollar Bill, and runs to pay his debt to the pig farmer.

    The pig farmer runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel.

    The supplier of feed and fuel takes the 100 Dollar Bill and runs to pay his debt to the town's prostitute that in these hard times, gave her ???services" on credit.

    The hooker runs to the hotel, and pays off her debt with the 100 Dollar Bill to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients here.

    The hotel proprietor then lays the 100 Dollar Bill back on the
    counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything.

    At that moment, the tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes the 100 Dollar Bill, saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.

    No one earned anything.......... However, the whole town is now
    without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism..

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States Government
    and the State of California are doing business today.

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/02/2009 1:13:40 PM

    When I look at the news everyday, I wonder if it's even possible for us to unplug from common sense any more than we already have.
    The one thing is that when you step back and look at the big picture, it's obvious that our politicians are either completely incompetent or dangerously evil.
    Let's start in California, which, as of Wednesday, will be issuing IOUs to everyone from state contractors to college students to the disabled; $3 billion in July alone. That may work for Schwarzenegger or the weasels in Sacramento, but can construction workers or college students eat an IOU?
    At least half a dozen other states face similar troubles, including Arizona, which faces a shortfall equal to almost a third of its budget.
    But instead of doing the common sense thing (bringing expenses in line with revenues), the Obama administration wants these states to expand their services, particularly when it comes to health care.
    You say, "But, aren't many states pushing to scale back or kill proposals to expand Medicaid?"
    Maybe, but do you really think that's going to happen? Here in New York City, a third of all residents are enrolled in the program, a number that's gone way up in recent years. What politician has the spine to eliminate entitlements? And have you asked yourself if it makes any sense to push for the greatest expansion in history, even as Medicare runs out of money in eight years?
    Similarly, how does it make sense when you're out of money to go to the Fed for help? It's just a giant, privately run-corporation that causes bubbles, can flood the market with money and collapse our dollar while answering to no one. How does it make common sense to not see the Fed's books? Ron Paul's "audit the Fed" bill has a majority in the House, yet Barney Frank is sitting on the bill in the House Financial Services Committee. Why? What kind of power is Barney Frank going to amass if he can enable and protect the seven most powerful people on the Federal Reserve board?
    Then there's the drastically different ways our president handled two anti-American presidents. First, Iran, where we've been trying to get the ayatollah and his cronies out of there since 1979.
    They rig an election, where protesters are beaten and killed in broad daylight, and Obama says nothing for two weeks. Why?
    Then in Honduras, where the president tries to shred the Constitution and hijack the Republic, President Obama jumps in with Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega and the Castro regime in demanding that the Honduras president be restored to power. Doesn't that constitute the exact meddling he said we shouldn't engage in when it comes to Iran?
    And finally there's cap-and-trade, a complete reshaping of America. It's a $4 trillion, 1,300-page bill that hardly anyone has read that's supposed to stop the polar bears from drowning. Few seem to even be considering the life-changing ramifications, if any dissenting opinion inside the government is silenced.

    • Posted By: stholas @ 07/02/2009 1:27:51 PM

      Typical right wing nonsense. All bark and no real substance. And quite stupid to, on top of it all.

      • Posted By: exceltoexcel @ 07/06/2009 1:25:54 PM

        Oh look another party line towing sheep. Audit the FED for god sakes.

      • Posted By: research99 @ 07/06/2009 12:05:02 PM

        Typical left-wing response, knee-jerk reaction without actually reading what is written. These statesments, while absolutely correct, are not necessarily right wing. I agree with everything written and consider myself a hardline libertarian, not right-wing.
        Are you saying that common-sense (as referenced in the above post) is a right-wing attribute?

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 12:48:21 PM

    THERE IS A LIBERAL, MINORITY IN THE WHITEHOUSE MY FRIENDS. WHEN HE IS DONE; WHAT EXCUSE WILL YOU HAVE? The old white guys arent around. What excuse will you manufacture. Will it still be Bush's fault. I dont think so. THERE IS A BLACK MAN IN THE WHITEHOUSE. THIS COUNTRY HAS MADE HISTORY. BUT do we have a LEADER. I want a leader and I DO NOT CARE about the color of his skin or his political label. I want a leader with a set of stones!

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 12:34:55 PM

    Harley99----GOD BLESS AMERICA. Yup, GOD! God Bless our Troups, pray for our troops and "RIDE AMERICAN MADE".
    Give er the gas, kid!

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 12:33:51 PM

    2010 will be a repeat of 1994; a complete sweep to CLEAN HOUSE. A bright spot we can look forward to

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 12:30:43 PM

    2010 will be a repeat of 1994; a complete sweep to CLEAN HOUSE. A bright spot we can look forward to

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 12:19:43 PM

    Common sense no longer exists when the media considers covering Michael Jackson passing of drug overdoses more important that the truth; the news; our American soldiers; our lives, the economy, should I go on...............Jesus, the libraries are FREE=read; or do you feel less pain living in Neverland

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 12:18:00 PM

    All bark and no substance? Your boy, his promises have turned to be barks that are amounting to not only bites; Obama is a Pit Bull; he will not stop until he has completely destroyed this country under the guise of helping the poor. He is an enabler.

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 12:16:21 PM

    The only ones not reading whats written are our representatives while having all this CRAP shoved down their throats.

  • Posted By: Still Free in the USA @ 07/06/2009 11:55:11 AM

    Colin Powell, one of President Obama's most prominent Republican supporters, expressed concern Friday that the president's ambitious blitz of costly initiatives may be enlarging the size of government and the federal debt too much. Ya doubt?????????????????????????????????
    "I'm concerned at the number of programs that are being presented, the bills associated with these programs and the additional government that will be needed to execute them," Mr. Powell said in an excerpt of an interview with CNN's John King, released by the network Friday morning.
    Mr. Powell, a retired U.S. army general who rose to political prominence after a long and accomplished military career, said that health care reform and many of Mr. Obama's other initiatives are "important" to Americans.
    But, he said, "one of the cautions that has to be given to the president -- and I've talked to some of his people about this -- is that you can't have so many things on the table that you can't absorb it all."
    "And we can't pay for it all," said Mr. Powell, who was the first African-American to serve as secretary of state, under former President George W. Bush. He was also national security adviser to President Reagan, and was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President George H.W. Bush from 1989 to 1993.
    Mr. Powell was considered a possible Republican presidential candidate as early as 1996, and in 2007 he donated the maximum amount allowed to Sen. John McCain, the Arizona Republican who won the GOP primary. But less than a month before last fall's general election, Mr. Powell endorsed Mr. Obama over Mr. McCain.
    Mr. Powell's comments represent the growing concern that began with hard-line fiscal conservatives but is now spreading to moderates about the rate of government spending and debt under President Obama, and the long-term impact on the country's fiscal sustainability and national security.
    The national debt stands currently at $11.5 trillion and the deficit for the current fiscal year is projected to be close to $2 trillion.
    Mr. Powell expressed alarm at "budgets that are running into the multi-trillions of dollars" and "a huge, huge national debt that, if we don't pay for in our lifetime, our kids and grandkids and great-grandchildren will have to pay for it."
    "So, I think the president, as he moves forward with his initiatives, has to start really taking a very, very hard look at what the cost of all this is. And, how much additional bureaucracy [will] be needed to make all of this happen?" Mr. Powell said.

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