Google’s Bid to Shatter Windows

Should Microsoft be worried about the search giant's new operating system? Not yet.

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  • Posted By: AnythingButApple @ 07/11/2009 12:38:51 AM

    I give Microsoft a better chance of toppling Google's dominance in search than I give Google of toppling Microsoft's dominance in the OS arena. Both companies are going after the other's bread and butter, but Bing is an actual product that is taking market share away now, and Steve Ballmer has committed $4-5 billion over the next few years to improving Bing and going after Google. Chrome is an anouncement not yet a product.

    Second, both companies have a lot of money and both companies hire the best and the brightest in the industry. But Microsoft is in the top 10 on Fotune's list of most profitable companies. They made $17 billion in profit last year. They have the resources to fend off any of Google's attacks on their OS while still funding their attack on Google's search dominance.

    Google is still a one-trick pony, whereas Microsoft is more diversified. It seems to me that Google is the more vulnerable of the two.

  • Posted By: mrarcadian @ 07/09/2009 8:29:36 AM

    Linux whats that??? To Hard to install, even now, i dont blame windows for it sucess i blame the software makers.
    They refuse to go linux or other software, if they did go linux alot more people would be using it.

    • Posted By: JuiceTheNewsHim @ 07/09/2009 6:07:34 PM

      So you haven't installed a Linux Distro in the past year. Ubuntu is really simple and works out of the box. It supports WFi, and keeps itself updated with the latest patches. Open Office is a great office suite.

      Thunderbird Email is way easier to use than Outlook, works really well, has a vast number of add ins that let you customize almost anything you want. Oh and it's free.

      Why hasn't Linux, Open Office and Thunderbird taken more market share from Windows -- Marketing and money. MSFT puts big bucks behind their products for Marketing. Linux and the like -- no marketing budget.

      Most home users could dump the Microsoft tax and go with Linux. I know that we have. I have a laptop and 64-bit desktop both running Ubuntu Linux. Open Office, Thunderbird, and Firefox provide all our home computing needs. The cost was for hardware only.

      Linux boots faster then Windows and hasn't ever crashed. My windows Xp laptop crashed just the other day with a blue screen -- seems to have been a display driver problem -- gotta love a modern OS that lets a display driver crash it.

      • Posted By: kenfromillinois @ 07/09/2009 6:23:33 PM

        I haven't seen a blue screen on my XP desktop ever! Of course, my desktop is online 24x7 and I'm probably doing something on it during most of the day. A clean XP machine will always boot faster than Linux. Of course, if you start adding all of that stuff for ringer downloads, music downloads, Tivo control, video download, .... your XP boot will start taking longer. But that's not bad since you are able to find all of that free software that every manufacture of sophisticated electronics must support for PC connectivity. The entire world knows: support Windows first, then, well then, maybe MAC or maybe one of the Unix bastards, or heck - forget it. 90% of our customers are on windows and the other 10% will cost us 50% to support - screw it. The issue is both a technical problem and a business problem. Supporting anything beyond windows costs money! and doesn't pay off!!! As a Firefox user, I do get frustrated when I have to work some sites with IE. But I understand. A company cannot afford to have developers optimizing a web site for all possible browsers. It would be a lose-lose operation. Make it work for 90% and you are successful. The other 10% are probably techies too cheap to use your service anyway - grin.

        • Posted By: no0ne_007 @ 07/09/2009 11:17:06 PM

          "As a Firefox user, I do get frustrated when I have to work some sites with IE. But I understand. A company cannot afford to have developers optimizing a web site for all possible browsers"

          I think you have that backwards. Take Base64 encoding (embedding images in html), which Firefox and most other browsers support, but not IE. So it???s not the company???s lack of coding skills that's your problem, its Microsoft???s lack of abilities in web browsers...

        • Posted By: no0ne_007 @ 07/09/2009 11:17:04 PM

          "As a Firefox user, I do get frustrated when I have to work some sites with IE. But I understand. A company cannot afford to have developers optimizing a web site for all possible browsers"

          I think you have that backwards. Take Base64 encoding (embedding images in html), which Firefox and most other browsers support, but not IE. So it???s not the company???s lack of coding skills that's your problem, its Microsoft???s lack of abilities in web browsers...

  • Posted By: JuiceTheNewsHim @ 07/09/2009 5:52:56 PM

    I didn't know that this was a Microsoft Forum -- or at leasts it reads this way. "Bing making inroads on Google search, Corporate America will take years to adopt Chrome OS"

    People -- Chrome OS is going after the consumer market for devices that are sub $300. In this space low cost, high performance is key -- 2 things Microsoft lacks. Could Microsoft build something for it -- I don't know. Their Windows Mobile OS is a disaster and has been for years.

    While Chrome has had low adoption, that might be because every PC comes with IE installed and the end user has to know about Chrome and then has to download and install it. A couple of high hurdles even for a company with Google's resources.

    I use Chrome and Firefox almost exclusively. The only time I use IE is when I go to Microsoft sites our use Outlook Web Express -because MSFT has hidden features in their browser that the others can't use. Hum - seems like a monopoly limiting the competition.

    We need an OS competition. We'll end up with a better solution, better experience and lower cost. I mean, have any of you seen what a pos Vista is.

    And the comments about Apples OS -- Apple thinks they are a hardware company -- and that has always been their problem.

    • Posted By: kenfromillinois @ 07/09/2009 6:33:54 PM

      I struggle with the concept of OS competition. I certainly understand that if you study "A" long enough, you can produce "B" which is better, and C for B, and D for C, and so on. But that means that application software has to run and be optimized on several different operating systems. That is a costly, buggy challenge! Application developers would hate it! Applications would decrease! No one would bother anymore! You could develop something very neat, very good, very valuable - but it would only work for a small percentage of your market! OOPS! That is a failing business model. The ideal environment is probably a couple OSs for each application domain (end user, network) and let them fight it out. It will always end up 80-20. Today, Microsoft is the 80 for the end user.

  • Posted By: kenfromillinois @ 07/09/2009 6:08:47 PM

    Technology has really moved to the end point. As memory and processors became cheap, features were moved into the user devices. You've seen this from landline phones to cell phones. Moving back control to the network doesn't make sense because it moves the development bottleneck, the bandwidth bottleneck, and the processing bottleneck back to the network. That's what the old PSTN had! It created a slower feature stream, required more sophisticated networking (COST), and more processing power (COST) that all grew as the feature set grew. Moving intelligence to the endpoint, e.g., cell phones, relieves the network of things that are hard to do. Heck, a smartphone can probably do more than a netbook, today! By tomorrow, the smartphone will be my PC with an external monitor and keyboard! A lot of techies hate Microsoft. The real reason is that they are jealous. Windows might not be the best for techies, but the entire world knows how to use it! And if you ever need support on an MS product, you can find it with only two degrees of freedom. Just ask your neighbor - I'd bet that you'd find an answer in only a couple attempts. While I'm proficient in Unix, I always recommend Windows to the average person because the ubiquitous means that they are certain to find what they need when they need it whether it be support or an application.

  • Posted By: onceagainreader @ 07/09/2009 5:27:11 PM

    The author says Microsoft is dependent on centralized computing and Google is betting on decentralized computing. I believe that's backward. Microsoft's OS is distributed on each PC and running independent of any one central processor (decentralized). Google's OS will be akin to the old centralized maintrame and will be dependent on one centralized processor.

  • Posted By: onceagainreader @ 07/09/2009 5:25:14 PM

    The author says Microsoft is dependent on centralized computing and Google is beting on decentralized computing. I believe that's backward. Microsoft's OS is distributed on each PC and running independent of any one central processor. Google's OS will be akin to the old centralized maintrame and will be dependent on one centralized processor.

  • Posted By: kevinq @ 07/09/2009 4:17:06 PM

    As my bellwether of tech (my 18yr old son) says 'Not!!! The broweser sucks now why make it the only interface' While Google and Apple are the cool alternatives Microsoft still has my vote as THE tech company. I may not agree wiht everyting they do or launch but overall I like what they do and use thier stuff

  • Posted By: jchri66 @ 07/09/2009 4:09:46 PM

    Only the Googlums are excited about this. Everyone else sees it as another tool to collect data.

  • Posted By: Jeremy Freedman @ 07/09/2009 2:04:56 PM

    The vast majority of Google's revenue comes from ads on search. Although google docs and many other of there apps are cool (I use and like them), they are not making the company money. Unless google can figure out how to make money in other arenas, they will slowly loose market dominance as others come up with better search options and steal ad revenue away.

  • Posted By: Furhatone @ 07/09/2009 11:52:49 AM

    The Google Chrome browser is still pretty weak -

  • Posted By: Boka @ 07/09/2009 10:51:31 AM

    There is some scary stuff coming out of Mordor these days.

  • Posted By: no0ne_007 @ 07/09/2009 10:33:47 AM

    If its built to utilize the Linux kernel, then by definition, its not a new OS... As an OSS developer from the early nineties, I'm not sure what's worse. Companies taking what others have built and call it their own (i.e. active directory stolen from Novell), or the simple minded sheeple who blindly prop it up as something new.

  • Posted By: markci @ 07/09/2009 10:09:01 AM

    *** I am gald to see Google continue to take its eye off the ball on the one thing that produces their revenue - SEARCH!! Bing has already proven that better features and a more rich offering can and will make inroads on Google ***

    Could you possibly lick Microsoft's boots a little more enthusiastically? LMAO!

  • Posted By: urqman @ 07/09/2009 10:02:33 AM

    I am gald to see Google continue to take its eye off the ball on the one thing that produces their revenue - SEARCH!! Bing has already proven that better features and a more rich offering can and will make inroads on Google. It is interesting to me that everyone spins this announcement as "what will happen to Microsoft?" - My question is "What will happen to Google?" if they continue to de-focus on their core?? This could be the best news ever for Microsoft...Google won't dent the OS market much and they are leveraging resources away from search...

  • Posted By: khalsted @ 07/09/2009 8:49:53 AM

    Normally, I would dismiss this as soon as I read it, but since it's coming from Google, I have to take it seriously. This new O/S is based on the Linux Kernel (big deal, it's been done many times before) but I'll reserve total judgement until I see and use it. If Microsoft don't start trimming their O/S's, they will be dethroned for sure. It looks like Win 7 is heading in the right direction, from what I've been able to demo myself the last few months, but anyone that gives customers what they really want, and make it easy for IT shops to do their day to day jobs better, could easily become the next King.

  • Posted By: bighappy @ 07/09/2009 12:24:01 AM

    Microsoft will rather build better search engine than Google develop competitive OS. Look at Linux.

  • Posted By: smellmyfinger @ 07/08/2009 10:17:57 PM

    Chrome OS will take years to make minor inroads. Choices about operating system are not based on quality, or features, etc. They are based on the inertia built into IT departments and the ecosystems that surround the OS. Otherwise Mac OS X would have prevailed long ago. Targeting netbooks where MS is most vulnerable is smart, but it still has to compete with various flavors of Linux, on which Chrome is going to be based, and various flavors of Windows, not least of which is XP.

    Microsoft's monopoly is not based on high-quality, so even if Chrome is (and I expect it will be) a superior offering it will take years and billions to dislodge even a minority of Windows boxes from the installed base or to supplant anything but a trivial minority of installed OSes on new machines.

    A distant fourth to Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux is my prediction, at least for the first five years.

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