The truth is liberals are furious they won't have Sarah Palin to kick around anymore -- at least not with Palin's hands tied behind her back by her public office.
Panetta orders internal probe of secret spy program after some members of Congress say CIA misled them.
The truth is liberals are furious they won't have Sarah Palin to kick around anymore -- at least not with Palin's hands tied behind her back by her public office.
What public office?
Shame on Panetta for not standing up more thoughtfully for his agency. Let's see, the integrity of CIA agents who lay their lives on the line to keep us safe or Pelosi's integrity-h-m-m, which would I see as worth valuing more. What a joke and what a pathetic attempt to deflect real corrupt and silly behavior from sociopath Pelosi. When we protect corruption and pervert the rule-of-law we are done as a democracy. Third-world status will be our future and this congress already operates with a third world mentality along with this president.
"Let's see, the integrity of CIA agents "
Hahahaha!
The Two Most Meaningless Words of the 21st Century: "Obama Said"
And "Biden knows"
What Obama and his minions are doing makes complete sense. Cut and paste the following link and all of your questions will be answered. Then pass it on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdUY08kEXN4
Judging from their statements, it is clear to me that paul946111 has a much better understanding of the classification process than does Brakus72. I, too, spent many years dealing with classified materials and the classification process. In those years, I have observed classification officers label material "classified" just to cover their or their boss's incompetence,or to save themselves embarrassment. In some cases, those who should have known better confused individual loyalty with loyalty to the institution. Still, there are alway a few individuals, within a system, who will sacrifice values, ethics and moral courage for theological purity. Fortunately, the number is small but they should dealt with harshly and purged from the system. These are the people who would do harm to our government system because, bottom line, they don't really believe in it.
its real simple, they recruit young muslim men to sit in the mosques and feed back info on whatever they heard, be it conjecture or plotting...and some young men use this to destroy other peoples lives....just as some CIA guys get gungho nutty aobut torturing people while others find more humane methods to achieve the same results....
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got the inside track cos people tell me stuff all the time...I just listen.
The former Vice-President, Dick Cheney stated that the biggest accomplishment of the Bush administration was to broaden the powers of the executive branch and that any future President would be unwilling to voluntarily give them up. He was right. Under the Bush administration the signing statement was used as one of the means to say, we don't care about the will of the congress or the express will of the judiciary, we are going to do what we want and there is nothing you can do to stop us. This policy is now the de facto law of the land.
To Brakus72, I fully appreciate the meaning of "classified". However, the National Security Act requires that congress be informed of clandestine operations and other classified programs and operations via the "gang of 8" and the select committees on intelligence. This is the issue at question, not releasing classified materials willy nilly. Authority without responsibility = chaos. As someone that had served my nation proudly and competently for over 20 years in various national security positions there is a reason for the prudent oversight procedures contained within public law that have been followed without issue for years.
Unfortunately, adherence to the principles of the rule of law or respect for the concept of loyalty to the institution by a few folks has compromised so very much more. I can only hope that a sense of responsibility by those that formulate national security policy and adherence to the concept of loyalty to the institution as exemplified by so many loyal members of the military and civil service can be honored, respected and emulated by those that have confused subservience to an individual as loyalty to the institution, their office, the public trust confided upon them and to their oaths.
Ultimately, it will be the institution that carries the burdens of the imprudent actions of a few or our society will officially enter the realm of lawless.
What upsets me is the fact that select people in Congress took it upon themselves to disclose classified material, even if it was vague at best. The simple fact is they have gone around formal legal recourse in order to force the hand of the CIA. The acting Director brought to their attention that something was being done covertly ((Meaning there are lives at risk operating for the U.S. Government)) and to have Congress try to push the issue without following the ocrrect proceedure is criminal. And you wonder why Classified matter is only given to those who need to hear about it. Believe it or not, there are still people in the world who want Americans dead. Be it from our past actions, or because we are just Americans means there has to be a sense of blanace to the intel community to keep Classified details from the public ear. This means Congress should not be shooting off their mouths and making a public display by letter.
The President of the United States has appointed a Director for the CIA, let him get to the bottom of details from the last Admin actions and then make a sound case if material needs to be brought to light to the public. Just throwing out bits of data is dangerous, and if anyone in the Intel community did this, you would be arrested and thrown in jail. Too bad Congress is not held at the same standards as those who risk their lives and do their dirty work for them because they want to call the shots from a nice furnished room.
brakus72. That is bullshit. The word Classified is a euphemism for Evidence of Criminal Conduct. And evidence of criminal conduct should never be concealed from public view.
Really, Well I hate to say it but the Government has many things that are Classified and not for public view. It is not Bullshit, it is to protect those who are out doing jobs that normal everyday citizens are not doing. Come back down to the really real world, if you beleive people of this country knows or needs to know everything that the U.S. Government is doing you crazy indeed. The plan fact is we elected people who are aware of Classified details of projects, covert ops, and developement of Tech. If you do not like the way things are being done, look for the next man/women that runs for President and vote for them. But remember this, they are going to use the CIA in the same manner. There will always be Operations and details of things done that we will not hear about for many years.
What you call Bullshit is the way it works. I admire your passion, but take it from someone who works in DC and is surrounded by this stuff.
brakus72. While I appreciate you disclosing your pay grade. That cuts both ways. You could bein here paid to wilfully misinform readers.
Not sure if you just looped all government employees with being dark evil doers, but like a previous poster stated, "So no, "classified" is not a synonym for "criminal." ". I am not going to try an understand the mind of someone who does not know what it is he/she is talking about so I will leave at this, classified material is done for a reason," Mainly because there are many people outside the United States whom wish to do harm to people like us ---- Americans. It does not matter if you agree with how things are done or not, they wish to do harm to you and the country. Just be grateful there are those out there that will work for the Government to protect this great nation.
Now that is not to say that there are a small minority who make the masses look bad, hell we had 8 years of bad leadership in the White House, but you know what I continued to do my job for the country. Rep. and Dem. are both to blame for a lot of the crap we are dealing with in todays world. The problems we have did not just spring up because Prsident Bush did this or that. The blame goes all around, and I just hope that someday soon politics aside someone has the guts to step outside their party lines does what is right.
You came out and insulted my statement with baseless opinion and it truely shows you do not know how the U.S. Government works in regards to how information is classified and handled. Plan fact is this, the public does not and should not know things that goes on until the threat level to American lives is nil, when that happens things do get de-classified. Sorry you feel the government is all evil and run by criminals, but you statements sir are baseless and without merit.
I bet you also think that 9/11 was designed by the U.S. Government as well. Shame.
Um...that's not true. My roommates had to get a government clearance to hold their jobs at a major and well-known defense contractor because their work is federally "classified" as is the work of most of their colleagues. They work on satellites, and based on what I (probably shouldn't) know about what those satellites do, I"m pretty sure they're not engaged in criminal activity. They do work with highly sensitive information that could endanger people if widely known.
So no, "classified" is not a synonym for "criminal." I don't know where you got that from.
mkf1.
Are you emailing from inside the USA?
rmay. are you emailing from Tora Bora?
Pelosi? Like a aged stripper; too much Botox and should have gotten off the stage a LONG time ago.
The truth is liberals are furious they won't have Sarah Palin to kick around anymore -- at least not with Palin's hands tied behind her back by her public office.
Liberal: Ha, ha ... Sarah who? She's over, she's toast, a future Trivial Pursuit answer, nothing more.
Normal person: Whatever. How about the North Korean missiles?
Liberal: Can you believe she just resigned the governorship like that? What a quitter!
Normal person: Speaking of quitting, how's work?
Liberal: Did you hear she might get a TV show? There's no way Sarah Palin's getting a TV show! No way! I can't believe stupid Sarah Palin could get her own stupid TV show now. Well, I'm sure not gonna watch it -- that's for sure!
Normal person: Have you seen all the Michael Jackson coverage on TV?
Liberal: How does she think she can run for president in 2012 if she can't finish her term as governor of a Podunk state? She's finished.
Normal person: OK, then! You won't have to vote for her.
Liberal: I was never going to vote for her! But now I'm not going to vote for her twice. And I will never watch her TV show. I am so over her.
Sarah Palin has deeply disappointed her enemies. People who hate her guts feel she's really let them down by resigning.
She's like the ex-girlfriend they're SO over, never want to see again, have already forgotten about -- really, it's O-ver -- but they just can't stop talking about her.
Wattsburg, Pa. ??? Vice President Joe Biden visited a small town on the outskirts of Erie today to talk to rural folks about federal stimulus money that can be used to expand broadband access to the Internet for rural areas that typically have poor connections.
Apparently stimulus money and broadband are not all that interesting to the local folk here: Only around 100 or so people have showed up so far to hear Biden talk at noon at Seneca High School off Route 8 in Wattsburg.
The room looked so sparse that about 30 or so chairs were removed by volunteers to give the illusion of a full house.
The effect didn't exactly work.
LMAO! Bailin Pailin? Its interesting how if you have a smart, stylish, attractive, Christian woman; the libs will find a reason to hate her; I just cant imagine Sarah with a mullet, a washed out polo, fat, in Kaki's driving a taxi. Nope. Not Sarah
Pelosi did not lie . Sean Hannity should resign and be replaced by Bailin Pailin
In God we trust. Obama and Congress, no thanks.
???Federal Budget for Dummies???; guess they didn???t have this book at Harvard.
America is my whore. Author---P-Daddy Barney
READ MY LIPSTICK-No More Bailouts.
Right Wing Extremists: Jefferson, Adams, Madison and Me.
Mr. President, redistribute my WORK ETHIC
From little ACORNS mighty Marxists grow
Geithner-May I borrow YOUR Turbo Tax
I listed the Feds as a dependant on my taxes.
Read my teleprompter-No More Bailouts.
So many people complain that Obama is far too liberal. However, he really acts way too much like Bush for my taste. Let's make a comparison: he spends too much, he thinks the Congress answers to the White House, he encourages secrecy from the Congress and the American people, and he doesn't seem to believe in equal treatment under law.
so glad to see time and money spent like this when our IT system was taken out for 2 days. Africa is now feeling the TERROR of BinLadin's boys and the economy was "mis-read". Omnius; conceptualize MONEY being a WMD! Saddam fully supported terrorism against the US and other countries. blah blah blah Bush Cheney.............
Great article Mark and Michael! I always enjoy seeing Michael expose stories we really need to know about. I'm glad that Leon Panetta has decided to investigate the CIA and discover for himself just how crooked it was run during Tyrant Bush's reign of terror against transparent government. We should never forget that it was the CIA under War Crimnal Bush who told us that Saddam had WMD and it was a slam dunk. Now we find out about some new nefarious program under the past tyrant that we don't even get to know about. My bet is that it's Sy Hersh's revelation that Marquis de Sade Cheney did have a secret asassination group operating under his orders. Leon Panetta has always been for transparent government and now he's got to pratice what he preaches instead of covering up the nefarious crimes of War Criminals Bush and Cheney!
Oh BS this is just a ruse tot take the heat off of Pelosi. What an evil decrepit woman. IMPEACH!
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