Microsoft, in Search of an Edge

The company's third attempt at a viable rival to Google is proving to be better than anyone expected. 

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  • Posted By: Aditya Mookerjee @ 07/21/2009 6:45:43 AM

    The reason why I use Google, is because it is very simple and convenient to use. People usually know what they are looking for, when they use a search engine, perhaps, they know more than me, when I use a search engine. So, the most convenient layout for a search engine, is what people look for. I feel, that Chrome, the web browser, complements the virtues of the Google search engine admirably. I use Chrome, because I feel it is the best for Google.

  • Posted By: brenhegarty @ 07/14/2009 11:59:59 AM

    According to Toolheads logic, if I wanted to do a search on the former presidents Bush I should make sure to include their names or title in the search phrase as there are many more bushes in areas relating to horticulture etc than politics.
    I am sorry but I would expect at least some hits on the presidents as well as garden plants. He seems to be confusing quantity with quality.

    As to his comment on searching for McDonald I would expect more hits on the fast food business rather than an obscure baseball player. The fast food chain is world wide and may be listed in connection with results relating to the environment, business, nutrition etc whereas most non Americans have no knowledge or interest in baseballl. I would expect the results to reflect this. I had no problem with Bing listing results on small town America but I would have expected some reference in the first 10 pages of results to a major figure of the second world war.

  • Posted By: brenhegarty @ 07/13/2009 7:57:58 PM

    I did a search for "Montgomery" on both Google and Bing. I had in mind General Bernard Montgomery, one of the major figures of the Second World War, as I am currently reading a book about this subject. The first two result on Google related to him, with the third been on a town of Montgomery. Very good result. The first two results on Bing did not relate to him. Nor the third, fourth or fifth. Nor any of the resullts on the first two pages. I gave up looking after the 10th page of results relating to towns called Montgomery for any reference to him. Strangely enough, the send page had a result on a General Richard Montgomery, an 18th century general in the American revolutionary war Continental army. To say that this was an abysmal result would be an understatement pf monumental proportions. Until Bing seems to recognize that there is a world outside of the USA I shall be sticking to Google for the forseeable future.

    • Posted By: pepeprop @ 07/13/2009 9:23:24 PM

      • Posted By: toolhead39 @ 07/13/2009 10:32:34 PM

        Your choice of search words is a bit vague...how can you honestly compare the two search engines on something so non-specific? Perhaps if you had searched for Bernard Montgomery rather than using a word that includes a county in probably every state in the lower 48. It's akin to searching for former MLB pitcher Ben McDonald by using the search term McDonald, and then complaining that the first 10 hits were directed to fast-food restaurants. It seems to me that if people were just a little bit more intelligent in their use of search terms none of this would be an issue.

        • Posted By: dantalion @ 07/14/2009 6:31:51 AM

          I think the logic of toolhead's criticism is more problematic than the choice of search words used by brenhegarty... To put it bluntly toolhead, the fact that Google responded correctly to the non-specific search terms while Bing did not is the reason that Google has dominated the search market for the past eight years. It great that you can sit smug and offer us your infinite wisdom about the lack of intelligence of human beings, but I would like to see how smart you would be if you decided to Google a subject you genouinely had no clue about. What search terms would you pick then? How would you know if these search terms were the most appropriate ones (remember, your intelligence cannot help you here because you are in the dark)? Google has proven itself as probably the most successful Artificial Intelligence project in history precisely because it can return relevant results based on vague searches. This is exactly the way Google and Bing should be compared. Everything else mentioned in this article is gimmicks, which are not the point of search. But I guess for truly intelligent people like toolhead, gimmicks are more important.

  • Posted By: brenhegarty @ 07/14/2009 5:58:25 AM

    A couple of replies castigate me for not putting his name or rank first, one going some far as to call me unintelligant and the other somehow comparing me to an Apple devotee

    I originally did the search without name and rank for a particular reason. This is that I often search using incomplete or partial search terms as sometimes I do not know exactly what I am looking for. The amazing thing about Google is that it often seemed to find what I was looking for. Toolhead thinks it obvious that I should have avoided using a name that is common in every small county in the US. I fail to see why that should be obvious to a non Americans. Even so, this still does not explain why General Richard Montgomery is mentioned rather than General Bernard Montgomery.

    i have no particular preference or loyalty for one search engine over another but the above example does not inspire me with confidence in Bing as yet. Descending to the level of some other posts prehaps this is not a problem if you live in America, always know exactly what you are looking for and are looking merely for a replacement for the Yellow Pages.

  • Posted By: TwoSenseWorth @ 07/14/2009 4:06:49 AM

    I am not a techie by any means but Bing is my default search engine after a few searches. Google use to drive me nuts with pages and pages of crap that may or may not be related to my search. I like the way Bing puts thing in categories that make sense. I'm done using Google.

  • Posted By: EagleMan @ 07/14/2009 2:53:18 AM

    I'm a Google "devotee" myself, but this is great if they've got some legitimate competition now to force themselves to improve. I haven't seen Google have one new feature in forever, they've just been constantly branching out into other things, I'll be glad to see if they get back to their roots.

  • Posted By: ventsyv @ 07/14/2009 12:57:56 AM

    I decided to try Bing after reading about it online and seeing the commercials on TV. I really liked it. Everything the article says is right on. I'm now almost entirely using Bing for my searching. Switching was easy, I just added the search engine plug-in to my Firefox and set it as default.
    Give it a try if you haven't.

  • Posted By: tsv0728 @ 07/14/2009 12:40:31 AM

    Also bren you seem to have left out the part where you put the General's first name in your google search, because I just searched Montgomery on Google and a listing related to him is nowhere on the first page. We have enough Apple fan boys already, please don't be a Google version.

  • Posted By: tsv0728 @ 07/14/2009 12:36:44 AM

    Sorry toolhead, I don't trust the review of anyone who uses IE. Bing is a nice product though. I don't know that I'll switch, but time will tell. As the author said, if I need to "google" something, it makes sense to use Google. Bing as a verb has a decent ring, but google sounds better at this point.

  • Posted By: JHartleyCAE @ 07/13/2009 9:34:02 PM

    I tested similar searches on both engines and have found Bing to do a better job on travel related searches. Google still has better resuilts and features for news. I intend to keep both as tabs on home IE8 homepage.

  • Posted By: Scotsd03 @ 07/13/2009 4:40:32 PM

    I don't see what the big deal is, I've tried it, and it's nice, works well, but it's no Google. The commericals are starting to get a bit annoying however.

  • Posted By: Brickhammer @ 07/13/2009 4:23:25 PM

    I have not had any problems switching between Google and Bing. Bing is very nice. I have been using it more than Google lately.

  • Posted By: aspendog @ 07/13/2009 4:07:33 PM

    If Bing load up first it will cause Google to not function correctly, I searched for a site using google and once I picked the site to go, the site would not come up. I triied it the same serch with Bing and everything worked correctly. Another thing, I cannot remove Bing as my default search engine. So much for competition. Someone from Texas

  • Posted By: aspendog @ 07/13/2009 4:06:55 PM

    If Bing load up first it will cause Google to not function correctly, I searched for a site using google and once I picked the site to go, the site would not come up. I triied it the same serch with Bing and everything worked correctly. Another thing, I cannot remove Bing as my default search engine. So much for competition. Someone from Texas

  • Posted By: srakesh @ 07/13/2009 3:56:07 PM

    I tested Bing the other day and I am impressed with it. It is a nice effort by a company trying to play catchup. The quality of search results and the response time for the queries I used are comparable. Way better than Cuil but it needs more work to match up Google. For instance, it needs to crawl more web pages and with time, who knows?

  • Posted By: mas8baller @ 07/13/2009 2:58:30 PM

    Long live Bing. Death to Google & Yahoo

  • Posted By: mas8baller @ 07/13/2009 2:57:55 PM

    LOng live Bing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Death to Yahoo & google

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