What Mancession?

Men may be disproportionately affected by the economy, but that doesn't mean these are boom times for women.

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  • Posted By: marie76 @ 07/17/2009 7:46:57 PM

    Oh poor men! I'm in finance and 2 of the men shared their salaries with me. One makes 10% more than I do and the other makes 25% more than I do. They forget their appointments, call clients late, and cut meetings short for personal reasons. I get stuck cleaning up after them because I'm single and have no children so they assume I have nothing to do except work.
    Companies aren't going to increase women's salaries because a woman could be the sole earner in the family. Corporations could care less.

  • Posted By: scienceman50 @ 07/16/2009 10:21:18 PM

    Posted By: ladoll @ 07/16/2009 1:44:31 PM
    Oh, you mean like all the men who worked at AIG and numerous other places which cost the world billions of $$$. THAT kind of quality work? Or was it Enron or the Saviings & Loans crowd?

    so your ASSUMMING that these losers are MEN automatically hugh???? did you meet these employees and therefore you know for sure that all the employees that screwed up at Enron,AIG ect were men I think not!

    • Posted By: ladoll @ 07/16/2009 11:06:40 PM

      Honey, did you just arrive to planet earth? Most people in leadership positions at these corporations are/were men.

  • Posted By: scienceman50 @ 07/16/2009 10:19:26 PM

    Posted By: ladoll @ 07/16/2009 1:44:31 PM
    Oh, you mean like all the men who worked at AIG and numerous other places which cost the world billions of $$$. THAT kind of quality work? Or was it Enron or the Saviings & Loans crowd?

    so your ASSUMMING that these losers are MEN automatically hugh???? did you meet them and therefore you know for sure that all the employees at Enron,AIG ect were men I think not!

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 07/16/2009 5:23:39 PM

    The Center for American Progress is a liberal-left thinktank,making its findings immediately suspect. That this ''mancession'' is more directly affecting men ,there is little doubt. In 15.7% Michigan and most areas at 14.5% California, males bear the brunt due to the loss of jobs that are in manufacturing,assembly, and industrial service work jobs. [Even picking up my own paper and viewing employment ads, one is immediately struck by the numbers of clerical and medical profession jobs that males either do not perform, or,as in the case of the above Marty Addison, are crossing over into.These jobs are dominated by women.Conversely,there are nearly no industrial service-sector jobs]. As it now stands, according to the US Dept of Labors June figures, males stand at 10.5-11% unemployment nationally,women at between 7.5-8 %. Then too, Cook ignores higher degreed graduates and undergrads in college that outnumber males two to one [ or 63% vs.37%] for minority women and men, and a 55%-44% ratio with white women over white males. As white women are the greatest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action, such figures, would figure.

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  • Posted By: KillerM @ 07/16/2009 9:00:54 AM

    WHat a load of CRAP this article is. Since men are disporportionatly being affected by unemployment the answer is that they should do more house work, or that their wife should get paiid more? Did it ever occur to the author that the reason men get paid more is that they produce high value work that is of greater benefit to society as a whole?

    • Posted By: ladoll @ 07/16/2009 1:44:31 PM

      Oh, you mean like all the men who worked at AIG and numerous other places which cost the world billions of $$$. THAT kind of quality work? Or was it Enron or the Saviings & Loans crowd?

  • Posted By: Nukeman @ 07/16/2009 1:31:25 PM

    DUH. Employers are generally afraid to lay off a woman vice a man. That's cheaper than the legal bills to fight the frivolous descrimination lawsuits.

  • Posted By: mesentary @ 07/16/2009 12:34:30 PM

    Well its nice to see pig-headed chauvinism is alive and well. I'm a female chemist, and yes, I make less money than my peers. I take LESS time off than them, and work harder. But the good 'ol boys in charge care more about who they go golfing with and complain about their wives too. Maybe you little boys should take your hostility against women out on your wives, daughters and mothers, and see what they say. Oh, wait, you already do that. I forgot. Grow the hell up. You're not the center of the universe. The fact that the women you prefer to hang out with act the way you describe is a testament to your faulty judgement, not a reflection on women in general.

  • Posted By: gogo74 @ 07/16/2009 12:33:54 PM

    As a female engineer, I agree that it's more correct to compare equivalent jobs and hours (females working full time in x field with males working full time in x field). However, it is unreasonable and not very healthy for society if we expect women to not take any time off for family or to have kids. So there will be a disproportionate number of years worked for the average man vs the average woman, and I think that is to be expected. If the wages are lower because you missed a few years, then so be it.

  • Posted By: gogo74 @ 07/16/2009 12:32:35 PM

    As a female engineer, I agree that it's more correct to compare equivalent jobs and hours (females working full time in x field with males working full time in x field). However, it is unreasonable and not very healthy for society if we expect women to not take any time off for family or to have kids. So there will be a disproportionate number of years worked for the average man vs the average woman, and I think that is to be expected. If the wages are lower because you missed a few years, then so be it.

  • Posted By: agoodman @ 07/16/2009 11:32:44 AM

    What crap! Tthe Center for American Progress numbers are skewed because they look at earnings over a lifetime.. and YES, men typiaclly earn more money over a lifetime tahn women make. Why? Because men work longer hours, take less time off from work and work more overtime than women do. Plus women tend to take more social jobs like teaching and nurshing and they typically pay less then contruction or other hard labor jobs. 85% of English ajors are women and 85% of math degrees go to men... which perosn do you think is better equipped to earn more money.... the school teacher or the engineer?

  • Posted By: dtechba @ 07/16/2009 11:22:48 AM

    I am in the IT field and teach it at a small liberal arts college. We have been trying to get more young women into the field for years. They just don't do it. Has nothing to do with discrimination it just isn't something they want to do. Where I work there are far more of them but they tend to be mid career women who changed careers looking for more money. Their teen dreams are long gone and now they just want a good paying job. Women outnumber men by huge margins in college so these victimologists (can't call them economists since they are clueless) better start lookign for other reasons than sexism to blame for their trends.

  • Posted By: elrick @ 07/16/2009 11:18:42 AM

    Give me a break all a woman has to do is get knocked up by some dead beat and say that her man is the father who really isn't of being the father. You femonazi's sure whine but turn a blind eye about things like this: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/ap_on_re_us/us_wrongfully_jailed

    How awesome way to go! I bet your real happy here huh men haters?

  • Posted By: sharilyn3 @ 07/16/2009 10:04:04 AM

    Men and women in the same job make the same income. Where women fall behind is when they take leave jobs in various stages of their lives, like when their children are young. This article is a load of crap. right on, KillerM.

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