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Pakistan's all-out offensive against the Taliban may already have failed.

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  • Posted By: Nath @ 08/11/2009 8:16:14 AM

    Division of Pakistan is an obvious reality facing us all. The people of Baloch , long suppressed and oppressed are now saying it loud on the facebook. As far as Sindh is concerned , it was never really comfortable with Punjabi dominated Government. Al Qaueda cannot be allowed to flourish in Urban areas so the Drones will have to be deployed in Quetta , Peshawar, Islamabad and Karachi especially to protect sensitive targets under risk of the veiled women and scarf wearing children trained by Al Quaeda to be human bombs...which is a part of the 180 million terrorists who live in Pakistan.

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 6:22:50 PM

    THIS ARTICLE AND THE AMERICAN DIATRIBE HERE SHOULD BE AN EYEOPENER FOR ALL PAKIS WHO STILL HAVE ANY DOUBTS THAT INDIA AND AMERICA ARE NOT FIGHTING A WAR OF OBLITERATION AGAINST PAKISTAN AS IS MANIFEST BY THE VIEWS OF THE SO-CALLED READERS BELOW -
    WHY AN AVERAGE AMERICAN WOULD HAVE ANY INTEREST IN PAK -IRAN IS A MYSTERY WHEN THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY ARE SITUATED ON THE GLOBE -
    THIS IS AVERY CLEAR MESSAGE TO PAKISTAN -AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE PENETRATED THE DEEPEST SCEPTICISM -
    AND THAT IS A BLESSING IN ITSELF -
    FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 8 YEARS PAKIS HAVE SNUBBED THE AMERICAN REGIME -A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THEIR VALOUR AND ALL THE PRAYERS OF MUSLIMS GLOBALLY ARE WITH PAKISTAN AND IRAN .IN THEIR WORTHY CAUSE -

    • Posted By: BOFORCE @ 07/24/2009 12:44:53 AM

      EVERY PAKISTANI KNOWS AMERICA'S ZIONIST POLICY ..OBAMA A BLACK WITH ISALMIC BACKGROUND IS ANOTHER ZIONIST FRAUD...JUST LOOK WHO IS OBAMA'S HANDLER ...ZEBIGNEW BREZINSKI...A JEWISH WOLF...OBAMA IS A WOLF IN BLACK SHEEP SKIN...HE IS THE PERFECT COMBINATION OF WOLF AND BLACK SHEEP

      • Posted By: Nath @ 08/11/2009 8:12:13 AM

        What is your postal code?

  • Posted By: Nath @ 08/11/2009 8:10:59 AM

    Division of Pakistan is an obvious reality facing us all. The people of Baloch , long suppressed and oppressed are now saying it loud on the facebook. As far as Sindh is concerned , it was never really comfortable with Punjabi dominated Government. Al Qaueda cannot be allowed to flourish in Urban areas so the Drones will have to be deployed in Quetta , Peshawar, Islamabad and Karachi especially to protect sensitive targets under risk of the veiled women and scarf wearing children trained by Al Quaeda to be human bombs...which is a part of the 180 million terrorists who live in Pakistan.

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 8:12:28 PM

    the constitutional head of britain is the monarch and the present queen openly asserts her allegiance to divinity -she also has wide knwledge and respect of islam and muslims and has proclaimed god as the ultimate source of power in this universe repeatedly ,as have her predecessors -
    if the head owes allegiance to the divine concept -it becomes foolhardy for some dribbling duffer to question the faith or primary allegiance of her subjects to the same entity -
    there is no question about the perception of divinity being assimilated into the same equilibrium in the trimvurate of the theological concept of the 3 divine religions described aptly as -
    christianity
    judaism
    islam
    so any british subject is ethically,logically and legitimately correct in declaring their foremost loyalty to divinity in form of either of the 3 religions where the same god is ultimately worshipped by all the followers and the head ,
    anyone who is challenging that concept has to be a fascist ,communist ,or an atheist and i am glad to say the queen is a devout follower of the divine lord and neither of those mentioned as former ,
    -farewell

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 6:36:22 PM

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/world/asia/22pstan.html?ref=asia

    JUST IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME DAVE -DEVDAS AS I DO FIRMLY BELIEVE -YOU HAVE ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER -
    LOLZ

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 6:31:21 PM

    DEAR SIR DAVE
    FOR YOUR KIND ATTENTION
    REGARDS OF A POOR LITTLE IMMIGRANT NON-PAKISTANI MUSLIM BOY FROM A MUDRASSA WHO HAS VERY POOR LINGUISTIC PROWESS -LOLZ

    YOUR CONVENIENCE IS MY DELIGHT -CHECK MATE

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/22/world/asia/22pstan.html?th&emc=th

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 6:14:32 PM

    NOPE YOU ARE WRONG -I AND EVERY MUSLIM IN BRITAIN HAS THE PRIVELEGE TO PRACTICE OUR RELIGION FIRST THOUGH THE RIGHTS ARE NOT EQUAL TO CHRISTIANS OR JEWS WHICH MAKES IT A FLAWED SECULAR STATE AND THE SAME FLAW HOLDS FOR OTHER RELIGIONS TOO -

    AS FOR AMERICA IT IS A RADICAL MILITANT CHRISTIAN STATE AS HAS BEEN PROVEN BY THE MISSIONARY PRACTICES THAT ANTAGONISED THE AFG-IRAQ POPULACE BY FORCING THE BIBLE ON THEM IN ARABIC AND PERSIAN -
    IT WAS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THEY STARTED TO KICK YOUR EVANGELICAL MARINES SENSELESS -AND THAT IS A CAUSE CELEBRE -
    BYE DAVE
    PAKIS HAVE TOLD OBAMA REGIME OFF AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE MOTIVE OF MY DISCUSSION WITH A MORON LIKE YOU -
    YOU DUG YOUR OWN GRAVE -NOW TRY FIGHTING THE PAKIS AND TALIBAN IN AFGHAN -
    I WIILL AWAIT NEWSWEEK TO ACTUALLY REPORT THE GROUND STRATEGY IN AFGHAN AS IT HAS SO SORDIDLY LIED ABOUT PAKIS HERE -
    PAKIS AND AMERICAN INTERESTS ARE NOT THE SAME AND TO CLARIFY ONCE MORE I AM NOT A PAKI BUT DEFINITELY A MUSLIM -
    WHICH IS SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU ARE JUST A FRUSTRATED RACIST WITH AN EVIL MIND AND NIHILISTIC VOCABULARY -
    AS THEY SAY ---CHEERIO -AINT IT AWESOME -THAT WORD YOU INVENTED FOR THE ENGLISH DICTIONARY -LOLZ

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 6:03:13 PM

    MY LOYALTY IS ONLY TO THE LAWS OF THE STATE I LIVE IN AND PRIMARILY TO GOD AS ANY MUSLIM -JEW OR CHRISTIAN OR ANYONE WITH A FAITH WILL PROCLAIM
    IT'S NOT YOUR DISCRETION TO DECIDE -BUT MY PRIVELEGE AS LOYALTY IS AN INHERENT EMOTION NOT AN AMERICAN CONSUMER EMOTION YOU MANUFACTURE IN CHINA AND BUY IN WALMART -LOLZ

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 5:59:50 PM

    david your english suxs -lolz
    just observe it you arrogant indo trash
    and was your mum from ukraine or lthuania as that explains your =
    you have virtually nil etiquettes or upbringing which you have fully demonstrated here too -

    u r actually the spoof that BRUNO IS IN THAT MOVIE -
    WITH YOUR RACIST CRAP AND YOUR IGNORANT NEURONAL DEFICITS -
    GET SOME LESSONS IN HOW TO FORMULATE YOUR LOGIC AND

    I JUST HEARD PAKISTAN GAVE THE FINGERS UP SIGN TO USA -
    THAT IS ALL I DESIRED
    PURPOSE OF MY SPECULATION ENDED -
    I AM GLAD PAKIS CAN SEE THROUGH YOUR SCORN AND HATRED OF THEM ON THIS PAGE -
    WHAT YOU HAVE SAID ABOUT THEM IS NOW BEEN READ EVERYWHERE FROM KHYBER TO KARACHI -
    I DO NOT NEED ANYMORE TO DISCUSS MYSELF WITH YOU AS
    YOU HAVE SHOWN HOW LOW YOU CAN STOOP AND THAT IS THE DEEPEST SEWER -
    I AM ECSTATIC YOU CHOSE TO ABUSE PAKIS THROUGH MY PERSON AS THAT SEEMS TO HAVE SUNK IN -

    READ WHAT THE OFFICIALS TOLD THE AMERICANS TODAY ON NYT -LOLZ
    OR IS THAT NEWSPAPER BEYOND YOUR OBJURE AND DISGUSTING LEXICON -
    NOW GO SEE THAT FINGER SIGN I MENTIONED ON NYT -LOLZ

    AND I HOPE THE TALIBAN HAVE A REAL GOOD TURKEY SHOOT IN HELMUND -CHEERS

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 11:05:28 AM

    dave das jee ,
    i am not an immigrant and for your kind info there are people in muslim regions richer than all of your israeli cousins put together -
    you are a very entertaining and patronising clown who becomes a rather contemtible icon of the degenerate mentality of the precarious colonialism -
    as you know dev das jee -your alcohol ic binges have left you with early dementia which reflects in your islamophobia as you stereotype everyone -
    now which kibbutz do you live in and how many palestinian kids have you killed so far -
    lolz
    that is tantamount to the statements you make regarding any muslim -
    your aptitude never goes from visceral hatred of any muslim to any other mode -
    no wonder you are meant to lose every war and argument as you do not have either logic or humour -
    british muslims have been around for 200 years and they fought in two world wars for britain

    in fact they have done as much for this country if not more than any descendant of william the conqueror -

    DEVDAS -TRY ANSWER THAT NOW -
    AND ANYWAY AMERICA IS MADE UP OF THE EURO TRASH SENT THERE BY COMPULSION OR OUT OF FISCAL OBLIGATION -I THINK YOU ARE MISUNDERSTANDING british muslim status for that yankee equation -

    i can make more money anyday in india or dubai with paying less taxes but i was born and live here where i belong and is your M15 OFFER STILL OPEN -LOLZ
    YOU ARE WHAT WE CALL HERE A PATHETIC TWAT -OR IN MORE SULTRY TERMS SIMPLE TOSH
    LOLZ

    • Posted By: david13 @ 07/22/2009 12:12:27 PM

      "I am not an immigrant"
      Then how do you account for your poor English language skills ? No, seriously, how do you? I am not being sarcastic but genuinely interested about the implications if your statement is true.

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 11:11:26 AM

    I AM FIRST A MUSLIM AS ALL OTHER MUSLIMS AND THEN ANY THING ELSE AND THE BRITISH CONSTITUTION GIVES ME THAT RIGHT TO BE AS LONG AS I AM NOT AS ISRAELI IMMIGRANT FROM UKRAINE LIKE YOU
    DAVE DAS -DANKE SHUN

    IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR YOU TO FIND YOUR ROOTS IN THE THIRD REICH AS YOUR MENTALITY IS ABSOLUTELY SIMILAR TO THE NAZIS REGARDING ETHNIC MINORITIES -
    NOT THAT YOU CAN ACHIEVE ANYTHING WITH YOUR MEAGRE INTELLECT AND CAPACITY TO DEBATE SENSIBLY OTHER THAN PERSONAL SILLY REMARKS WHICH ARE OF NOM CONSEQUENCE ON INTERNET ,
    ENJOY YOUR DINNER -OR TOSH WHATEVER YOUR EATING FOR TEA

    • Posted By: david13 @ 07/22/2009 11:34:21 AM

      No, actually the British constitution gives you the right to practice any religion or no religion. but your primarily loyalty has to be to the nation of Britain. Cheers!

      • Posted By: david13 @ 07/22/2009 12:07:41 PM

        clarification: your primary loyalty in terms of nation or state has to be Britain, not Pakistan or the Ummah (where it seeks to command allegiance as a quasi-state to the detriment of the nation's interest). For you to believe otherwise is an expensive vanity, whose cost you do not seem to fully realize.
        i leave you now to enjoy your pretensions.and to revel in your alternate reality, as many of your countrymen seem to be happy to do. Good luck and goodbye jbz

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 11:14:01 AM

    DO YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK YOU ARE DEVDAS AND NOT DAVID -LOLZ
    JUST ANOTHER INDIAN IMPOSTOR AND INSURGENT WHO JUST BEEN CHUCKED OUT OF SWAT AND REALLY PISSED OFF BY PAKIS -
    RIGHT DAVID
    HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD -LOLZ

    • Posted By: david13 @ 07/22/2009 11:32:18 AM

      and yet earlier you stated specifically you are not pakistani

  • Posted By: World Policy @ 07/22/2009 11:31:48 AM

    A well documented, thoroughly researched article was written by World Policy journalists on our current involvement and touches base on the crucial details of what is going on overseas. I highly suggest many of you to check it out here, it is very eye opening. http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/wopj.2009.26.2.13

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 11:18:25 AM

    DAVID OR DEVDAS WHATEVER -
    ANOTHER GOLDEN EGG LAID BY YOUR GENERALISED IGNORANCE -
    ALL MUSLIMS NOT LIVING IN THE WEST ARE POOR -
    AND ALL MUSLIMS LIVING IN WEST LIVE HERE FOR MONEY -
    I AM GLAD YOU ARE AS DUMB AS COHEN IN BRUNO -
    BUT HE WAS ONLY PRETENDING
    YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE ALL THIS TOSH YOU SAY -
    I MERELY PITY YOU MATE -YOU NEED A PSYCHIATRIC ASESSMENT WHEREVER YOU ARE FROM -LOLZ
    FROM YOUR PROFESSOR -COCTOR SAHEB JEE JBZ

    • Posted By: david13 @ 07/22/2009 11:29:49 AM

      "I am not a Paki" jbz,
      I am beginning to suspect you are actually an Indan posing as a Pakistani to give that community a bad name - or are you just plain cuckoo? I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume its cuckoo. Hence, i will not be responding any more as that would be inappropriate on my part. However, that brings me back to my original question to you:
      "have you been taking your medication?

  • Posted By: david13 @ 07/22/2009 10:13:11 AM

    Doctor Saab jbz,
    I keep intending for you to have the last, lengthy word but your wonderful pretensions keep drawing me back in just when I
    thought I was out.
    Re your statement "I am a British Muslim" - what you really mean is that " I am a muslim who lives in Britain as an economic migrant" ( to escape your own poorly run country). Implicit in the term "British Muslim" is that one's primary allegiance is to the nation of Britain. In your case, based on your posts, one can see that that is simply not so. For you, it is clear that your primary allegiance is to the Ummah. Your self-reference as a British muslim is nothing but a convenient fiction.

  • Posted By: MichaelX @ 07/22/2009 9:41:02 AM

    This is not "our" war. We have no business being there, losing American lives. To hell with these people!
    They have been killing each other for so long, nobody really knows why. Why are we there? It does us no good to attempt to stop something that these sub-humans are going to continue after we have left. Get out now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 6:07:34 AM

    war must be the last resort to solve a disaster -here the warmongers are celebrating it as a blessing from god -
    i cannot believe we are in the midst of a civilized society where people talk like halaku khan who was the worst curse to this planet ever -
    i am not a total pacifist but war is an evil necessity not a picnic like RAND has eulogised in his newsweek article as a 15 year co habitation in afghanistan -
    that will mean a total of 50 years of war in that country -
    even if it is true that iran and pakistan are helping the taliban fight usa with russia and china -
    is that not a cocktail for initiating a third world war which will be a catastrophe for the whole globe itself -

    admittedly so far they are playing games only like in europe in 1900s but we saw what those antics consequently triggerred and really USA escaped only because it entered late and was imacessible to weapnery than -
    that is not the equation now ,
    in fact it has more enemies than friends in the world today -

    it is fine for david to attack me as it amounts to no consequence -i am the opposite of what he tries to portray me as and i am not bothered as i do not say anything which most americans believe to be un true in their hearts -as i talk to many of them -
    in fact i am sure a lot of my friends work for both m15 and cia -and the paradox is they even do not know why they are in iraq or afghanistan and how is that helping make those countries stable .
    CAN WAR OR KILLING CITIZENS EVER MAKE A SECULAR DEMOCRACY OUT OF ANY COUNTRY ?
    IN FACT WHERE IS A SECULAR DEMOCRACY -
    I AM BRITISH MUSLIM -DO WE HAVE ANY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO PRAY AT WORK -OR HAVE HOLIDAYS ON MUSLIM FESTIVALS -
    EVEN THE BLASPHEMY LAWS ARE ONLY FOR JEWS AND CHRISTIANS -
    AND THIS IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF DEMOCRACY AS EXISTING ON THE PLANET BY ALL MEANS WITH ALL IT'S FLAWS INTACT .
    THE EVIL FANTASY OF CONVERTING 2 MUSLIM SOCIETIES BY FORCE of WAR AND TORTURE TO SECULAR DEMOCRACY IS INCORRIGIBLE AND SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE -IN FACT IT IS IMMORAL AND CRIMINAL IN THE ETHICAL VIEW FROM ANY PERSPECTIVE .

    I HOPE PROF EMERITUS DAVID YOU GET THESE POINTS

  • Posted By: BOFORCE @ 07/22/2009 9:24:45 AM

    This is the best time regional players to help afghan talibans.......America...Nato...and British are tired and fighting a lost war in Afghanistan....finally all the foriegin occupying forces would leave afghanistan....because rebuilding Afghanistan and introducing democracy there is a long haul maybe next 5 decades wont be enough...soon the America ..Nato and British will run out their guts..economically and consequently militarily...I guess Nato has realised that it was grave blunder to operate outside european theatre...SO BETTER GET OUT OF AFGNAISTAN BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE..

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 5:17:04 AM

    lolz
    i am off the topic

    dave you accuse me of being a talibamn -from mudrassa -threaten me with being monitored -cannot digest my opinions -

    you or anyone has not answered a single argument i have put forth logically except spewing venom at my persona -

    NW knows who i am and so do many others -
    you have only restricted your discussion to taunts and threats of a very personal nature and now you are have the bloody cheek to report me as a terrorist for expressing myself on the newsweek forum -
    i wonder what people will make of this conundrum you are -
    i actually smile when i think of you as it reminds of the eddie murphy movie -MEET DAVE -
    YOU ARE EVEN FUNNIER THAN THAT

    AS FOR THE AFGHAN WAR OR THE IRAN PAKISTAN HELPING TAIBAN AS LEVELLED BY RAND OR WHOEVER ,YOU KNOW IT BETTER AS YOU MUST BE AWARE OF THE TRUTH THAT CIA NEVER TELLS -FOR IT HAS ADOPTED A PENCHANT FOR BEING THE BEST OPERATIVE WITHOUT A STATE NOT RESPONSIBLE TO ANY ENTITY -
    AND IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ACCUSING ISI OF IN PAST -
    THEY LEARNT ALL THE TRICKS FROM YOUR AUGUST AUTORITY

    REGARDS PROFESSOR EMERITUS OF THE THIRD COLUMN -OR IS IT THIRD REICH -PARDON -THE FOURTH REICH

    DO NOT MISS IN THE LOOP IT COMES OUT THIS WEEK IN USA -A BRITISH GEM AND READ MY REVIEW IN READERS SECTION IN NEW YORK TIMES -
    THEY PUBLISHED IT MONTHS AGO -
    CHEERS
    U R ENTERTAINING -COME AGAIN

  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 07/22/2009 4:58:52 AM

    the reason you can laugh is because i find you very amusing lie the infantile intellect you prtray here and all great comedy comes out of a tragedy anyway -
    i think you must watch in the loop -that is where the british intellect can make the american hypocrisy look like a foul mouthed idiosyncracy which it is -
    after you see IN THE LOOP -
    I AM SURE YOU WILL DUB BRITAIN AS A MUDRASSA TOO -AND GET A PROCEDURE OR PRESCRIPTION FOR BELLYACHE AS IT MIGHT BE OBSTRUCTION FROM THE YOU FROM THE TRASH AND FILTH U R FRRDING UPON -

    I WILL NOT RECOMMEND HAMLET TO YOU OR TO M15 EITHER -IT WAS DULL AND JUDE LAW HAS NO PERSONA AKIN TO MOST OF THE DREARY AND DULL CLOWNS LIKE YOU WHO AT BEST ARE CONDESCENDINGLY AMUSING -
    TELL NEWSWEEK TO SEND MY DETAILS TO M15 -LOLZ
    THAT IS FINE WITH ME
    I AM SURE YOU WORK FOR THEM ANYWAY
    MR MASTER AGENT OF THE CRIPPLE INTERNATIONAL ANTIQUITY

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