The ‘Tax the Rich!’ Reflex

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  • Posted By: johnmcrio @ 08/12/2009 5:50:15 PM

    The mais thrust of the article is that if wealthy people have greater disposable income, they will invest it in productive endeavors. Were that the case, we would hardly be having the recession we have now, a byproduct of a housing and toxic securities bubble, surely caused by excess disposible income that was not invested productively. I wonder - if this money had been taxed and invested by the government in universal health care, could there have been more gains in U.S productivity, as opposed to the "drag" the author suggests is the necessary results of higher taxes? It is also good to remember that the "higher" taxes being alluded to are, in reality, a RETURN th the levels that existed under Clinton - when the US economy was booming and THE BUDGET HAD A SURPLUS!! Think again, Mr. Will...

  • Posted By: GenerationX @ 07/20/2009 3:54:14 PM

    The rich do not pay any taxes. They offshore their wealth to secret overseas bank accounts. If anything, we need to reinstate the 70-94% tax brackets, tax capital gains as regular income and reverse all tax cuts for the wealthy & corporations since the post-WW2 boom to pay off the national debt caused by tax cuts for the wealthy & corporations. These upper-income tax brackets are historically proven to work to get America debt-free. Raise their taxes! Restore America to debt-free status!

    • Posted By: future slumlord @ 07/24/2009 11:49:39 AM

      the richest 2% of Americans pay about 60% of the income taxes

      • Posted By: Acharn @ 07/27/2009 12:02:27 AM

        So? What does that have to do with anything? They also have 70% of the income.

    • Posted By: Classenvyiswicked @ 07/20/2009 4:27:08 PM

      The national debt has been caused by the government SPENDING money it doesn't have. Cut spending and there wouldn't be a deficit. It's people like you who demand entitlements that are ruining our economy, not the wealthy.

      • Posted By: GenerationX @ 07/20/2009 4:40:55 PM

        I do not demand entitlements. Read a great series of books by Pulitzer-Prize winning authors Donald L. Bartlett & James B. Steele from 1990-93: "America: Who Really Pays the Taxes?", "America: Who Stole the Dream?" and ""America: What Went Wrong?". These books talk about how the tax burden was shifted from the wealthy and corporations to the middle class. A great set of books, these authors were all over TV when the books came out, talking about what happened in the 1980's and why the middle class was struggling, starting back then. Much more today. READ READ READ.... Find out what happened. Economists were giving dire warnings of the exploding national debt in the 1980's in the wake of all the tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, but Republicans kept saying "deficits don't matter". (Well they DO matter now, don't they?)

        • Posted By: Classenvyiswicked @ 07/20/2009 8:07:15 PM

          Sorry, but you're wrong to ignore entitlements. 42% of federal spending goes to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Deficits do matter, so why is your Democratic president raising the national debt to obscene levels?

          • Posted By: DubiousDan @ 07/21/2009 2:11:33 AM

            Strange, I thought social security was running a surplus. Wasn't that surplus the basis for Bush's tax cuts?

            • Posted By: future slumlord @ 07/24/2009 12:05:55 PM

              you are mistaken

          • Posted By: trimm25 @ 07/20/2009 11:22:25 PM

            To get us out of the mess that W left for us.

      • Posted By: LA2000 @ 07/21/2009 12:42:39 AM

        Oh, if only it were that simple. You actually are missing one half of the financial formula here. The country has debt because it doesn't raise enough in revenue (taxes) to cover its costs. In fact, if we were to shut the whole government down, including schools, air traffic control, military, roads, bridges - the whole deal - a family of 4 would still owe $141,000 just to pay off their share of the debt we have already incurred.

        • Posted By: future slumlord @ 07/24/2009 12:05:02 PM

          No, the country has debt because we spend too much money.

        • Posted By: DubiousDan @ 07/21/2009 1:31:21 AM

    • Posted By: future slumlord @ 07/24/2009 11:50:52 AM

      did you just make that up?

    • Posted By: renner52osu @ 07/21/2009 8:17:55 AM

      So if it the responsibility of the rich to support your free hand outs and entitlements, then what is your resposibility? Bascially, people like you have no problem infringing on the rights of others in order to get a free handout. And you clearly don't know what you are talking about in regard to tax revenue. The top 1% pay nearly 50% of all taxes. You like communisim? Go move to North Korea or Cuba, they would love to have you. And since you are probably the type of peron that loathes corporations, take off those Nike shoes you are wearing and stop being a hypocrite.

      You this the mass exodus of jobs leaving America was bad over the lsat 20 years, just wait and see what happens as the Dems further penalize big business with Cap & Trade and higher taxes...Say bye bye to your jobs! And you'll have no one to thank but your precious left wing government.

    • Posted By: paulwcs @ 07/20/2009 4:33:53 PM

      Unbelievable. You honestly think anyone would just pay these exorbitant rates you suggest? We do need change in America - to start with, educating those who missed economics and the reality of human behavior.

      Look up what happened in the mid 80's to the Yacht industry when good ole Ted Kennedy decided that taxing the rich was a good idea. Yeah, the bill generated no net revenue, cost thousands of jobs and killed an industry, moving it to tax-friendly nations.

    • Posted By: wretched14u @ 07/20/2009 4:03:43 PM

      Now we know why Generation X needs some help...you are all Idiots! put down the crack pipe and join the real world (and no it is not a show on MTV)

      • Posted By: GenerationX @ 07/20/2009 4:22:56 PM

        You have the wrong generation. Those of us in Generation X are over 40, so crack pipes and MTV are not in our world. We are raising our children and helping our aging parents. We watched the Baby Boomers implode the country's morals and values back in our childhood, become the greediest people on Earth in the 1980's-2000's, and the after effects of that now as the "Me Generation" implodes the financial stability of the entire world. We know how our grandparents got through the Great Depression and how they paid their own debts. They did not run up huge debts on the tabs of future generations, they used taxation of the wealthy to pay off WW2. The same will work again today. Note: For a good TV show about Xers v. Boomers watch "Family Ties" out on DVD or read about who Generation X is. EDUCATE YOURSELF before slinging false accusations of drug use and watching MTV.

      • Posted By: LawyerLady @ 07/20/2009 4:15:41 PM

        I could not agree more Wretched.

    • Posted By: deadcenter @ 07/20/2009 4:20:35 PM

      Your figures are skewed. During WWII as you point out, the rich paid up to 98 %. The problem is you don't point out that the rich was a tax group of over $5,000,000 per year in those dollars. source http/:www.truthand politics.org/top-rates.php. Using today's adjusted income for inflation that would someone in the $45,000,000 area!!

  • Posted By: Francis_55 @ 07/25/2009 7:56:57 AM

    Interesting: the rich are rich and they deserve to be because they are smarter, more beautiful, and they have more character and ambition than the rest of us. How then to explain that some people are getting smarter and smarter, more and more beautiful, with stronger character and ambition, while we are getting dumber and dumber, uglier and uglier, and turning into ambition-less whimps?

  • Posted By: Francis_55 @ 07/25/2009 7:55:56 AM

    Interesting: the rich are rich and they deserve to be because they are smarter, more beautiful, and they have more character and ambition than the rest of us. How then to explain that some people are getting smarter and smarter, more and more beautiful, with stronger character and ambition, we are getting dumber and dumber, uglier and uglier, and turning into ambition-less whimps?

  • Posted By: Apolitical @ 07/21/2009 4:37:58 PM

    Mr. Will and his right wing bias gets in the way again of the balanced perspective. How is the GOP and the right-wing policy of giving tax break to the rich and the powerful a better policy than the current progressive taxation. We have the near disaster very deep recession under this policy. And looking back into our modern history, the GOP myth of glorious Reagan administration on the same policy had two recessions. Or let me simplify, show me a country that's progressive and thriving that's not into progressive tax program and I'll believe you.

    • Posted By: future slumlord @ 07/24/2009 11:39:31 AM

      actully it is tax breaks for all tax payers

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 07/22/2009 12:46:41 AM

      There were several times in US history when tax cuts improved economy, and NO ONE case when increased taxation during recession helped. You hope this idiot will make history? Yes, probably he will...

  • Posted By: ngordon @ 07/20/2009 7:38:39 PM

    Scuromondo is right on. We are a society. We should be caring more for others. I'm tired of rich people saying that they don't want to pay for the lazy people out there. But why is it that these same rich people keep on getting richer even when taxes are increased (not counting recessions)? Poor people are not greedy. They don't need to have the flashy boats, expensive cars, giant homes, or trips around the world in private jets. What do they want? A chance to live. That should be something that everyone in America should have. They want health care that works. They need it because these big corporations that make all this money are giving crappy food that makes them sick. Why do the poor buy it? Because they are very inexpensive. Milk is $1.99 a gallon right now, but organic milk is three times that. How can they afford to get that? Same goes with most other food. Going to McDonald's is a lot cheaper than buying the healthy alternatives. And what about the credit card or bank loans, poor people are being charged huge interest rates that only the rich could afford, but the rich get the low fees. These are just small examples of how these rich people become richer off these poor people. Not all, mind you. There are many that work hard and are doing really good things, but those are usually the people that don't mind paying these taxes. Now, $350,000 is on the low end of rich people, but if you don't want to pay more taxes, then don't be so rich ... it's like movie stars who want more privacy.

    • Posted By: easycheesecake @ 07/20/2009 7:47:29 PM

      "...but those are the usually the people that don't mind paying these taxes."

      You are an idiot. These are the very people that do mind paying these taxes because they know they can do significantly more good by applying their income directly to the need as opposed to their money being filtered through the IRS and Big Government bureaucracy before it reaches anyone who actually needs it. This just shows your fundamental naivety regarding the wasteful practices of government. You are living in a fantasy world if you truly believe charitable people don't mind paying prohibitive tax rates!

      • Posted By: Vigilance @ 07/21/2009 3:00:27 PM

        Charity is all well and good, but it doesn't fix the roads, make sure the garbage gets picked up, or clean up pollution spills. The current GOP attitude that the public sector is unimportant ignores a large part of the big picture.

        I personally also think that the corporate and investor classes have been soaking the hell out of the middle class and poor for several years with deceptive lending and billing practices, ignoring complaints and protests. I've had a few bad experiences over the last few years with very unresponsive corporations and overbilling (i.e., the cable/internet bill comes, and it's more, and I complain, but they don't do anything, and they cut off my service if I don't pay, which I need for my business, and I move and call back and they keep billing me for six months). What am I supposed to do about that?

        The problem is that the taxes hit those among the rich who didn't do any such thing just as well. But the scale of abuses is so vast - thank God I didn't have a large credit card balance, my friend's bank just jacked up his rate from 14% to 22%, which ought to be a criminal offense - that the public sector now has to do SOMETHING to correct the grotesque imbalances that have resulted from the last decade or so of this nonsense.

        • Posted By: future slumlord @ 07/24/2009 11:32:50 AM

          I don't think the GOP has advocated not fixing roads, I pay a fee for trash service, and private companies clean up polution spills

        • Posted By: bighappy @ 07/22/2009 12:55:49 AM

          "the cable/internet bill comes, and it's more..." - it is because you don't have a choice, you local State goverment (probably Democraic) blocked any competition between providers.

      • Posted By: ngordon @ 07/20/2009 8:00:34 PM

        Obviously, you are not one of them.

        • Posted By: easycheesecake @ 07/20/2009 8:10:43 PM

          I wasn't going to parade it, but I am one of them. I generally give around 20 percent of my gross income to charitable causes.

          • Posted By: ngordon @ 07/21/2009 12:25:41 AM

            You weren't going to "parade it" but yet you did anyway. You don't seem like one of the ones I was talking about. It's fine to give to charity. I hope it's something real worthy and not a slick way to write off on your taxes each year. And why would this prevent you from giving the same amount? But it's your money, you can do what you want with it. This still has nothing to do with the fact that people are getting sicker and sicker without proper health care and corporations (not all, obviously, but the big ones) are taking advantage of them for giving out crap for cheap. I know that not every rich person is a bad evil Scrooge. You must agree that the health care system is broken when there are people dying simply because they can't afford it. If you can come up with a better solution, then by all means.
            http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/05/27/new-study-shows-poor-give-greater-percent-of-income-to-charity/

            • Posted By: bighappy @ 07/22/2009 12:58:50 AM

              Canadians are getting sicker with "proper" medical care (so-named full coverage), and are coming in USA for cure, never vice versa.

  • Posted By: Monachello @ 07/23/2009 1:25:59 PM

    George, please run for office so we can find out what YOUR plan is for reforming healthcare. Until then, this world is changing rapidly and you continue to make old and outdated aruguments that are irrelvant to the issues at hand. For example, you lean heavily on the concept of meritocracy, which most Americans favor in our work lives, however, you don't explain how having financial institutions that are "too big to fail" fits into that model and you don't accouont for income inequality that is due to that fact and, in some cases, greed, dishonesty, fraud, corruption, and antiquated regulatory frameworks, among other factors. Also, regarding meritocracy, you fail to take heed of the newer global issues of educational failure and health system failure that have caused our labor force to experience a new global level of competiton that only we, as a nation, can offset with reforms here at home. As Tom Friedman notes, the world truly is flat now for most of our economic activity.

    In the future, I hope your editors require you to both deal with the realities of 2009 and to articulate and defend an alternative solution when criticizing. Otherwise, you're just another nutty, screaming ideologue preaching to the converted, left or right, in the clothing of a prefessional journalist. Newsweek might as well hire Palin for your spot and boost circulation. George, looks like another call strike three!

    • Posted By: future slumlord @ 07/24/2009 11:02:53 AM

      you can't make the poor more wealthy by make the rich less so

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 07/23/2009 8:25:50 PM

      Imagine you have low IQ, Monachello, and one doctor suggests brain surgery while another one recommends you to live your boring life instead. Would you say to the second doctor that he is stupid because could not give any radical solution, and go with surgery? If you do (according your response you will), your IQ is even smaller than I imagined.

  • Posted By: SeekingRationalThought @ 07/22/2009 10:10:12 AM

    While I don't have time to read every comment to this article,, I find it fascinating that those who disagree with Mr. Will fail to address one of the key points and therby validate his positions. That point is that government efforts to force equality of income and results will reduce the net affluance of the country. As Mr. Will notes, those favoring government forced equality never address, let alone acknowledge this fact. It is this intellectual blindness, or dishonesty to be more blunt, that has led me, a Democrat, to vote for more Republicans as the years go by. It will ultilmately lead to the demise of the Democratic left. Not only because they are wrong, but because they will lose all credibility due to their refusal to recognize and address reality. Remember Jimmy Carter.

  • Posted By: Coventry @ 07/21/2009 10:34:55 AM

    Here is another interesting point to consider. Today's society is becoming more and more focused upon the rare high-value contributions of the talented few, to the ever-increasing detriment of those who possess none of these talents. We are in effect, devaluing the contributions of talents with a percieved over-supply, (e.g. strong back, good with your hands, etc) that make up the potential contributions of the largest segment of society. Not only are we paying the wealthy ever-increasing rewards for their efforts, we are also decreasing what we will pay for what we deem less valuable contributions. Most of those without rare high-value contribution potential lack the capacity to raise their productivity sufficiently to offset the overall devaluation of the skills they offer society. Without some form of wealth redistribution, the vast majority of society's members will be unable to market their low-value skills for enough money to allow anything approaching a middle-class lifestyle. This will make downward-mobility the most powerful force in capitalistic society for the foreseeable future.

    • Posted By: Vigilance @ 07/21/2009 2:24:38 PM

      You have a pretty low opinion of people, don't you?

      I consider myself middle-class. I'm also a computer programmer. I can make a program without a CEO to direct me in doing so, but the CEO sure can't produce a software project without me or my other "middle-class" brethren. And - quite frankly - I left corporate America because I was sick of the "well, I'm the boss, so therefore you should do as I say no matter how I treat you" attitude. Your post isn't quite contemptuous of the middle class, but it's close. Given that I speak two languages but was not raised bilingual, studied mathematics up to and including differential calculus while in high school, took Advanced Placement classes in U.S. History, English, Spanish, Physics, Calculus and Computer Science, have read a wide variety of authors from around the world, compose music and render computer graphics (both of which I taught myself), your attitude that I must not be "productive" doesn't hold a bit of water.

      Also, I'm 29. How the hell do you know what I may accomplish in the future? I'm trying to start a company now in fact, trying to release a software product before the end of the year. Your post smacks of the arrogance of those rich people who believe society simply cannot function without them. I don't believe in "soak the rich" as a general principle, but when I see "the rich" posting like this, it makes me think Obama's doing just fine at present. :P

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 07/22/2009 1:05:49 AM

        When you start your company, please bring unions there, make Obam happy and us laughing. Don't forget to buy for your employees full health insurance, god forbid you to earn more than $150k a year and try to avoid reach partners. Good luck with your business.

  • Posted By: suprvulcan @ 07/20/2009 4:25:58 PM

    Tax cuts for the rich did not create our national debt. Anyone who thinks that way is blinded by liberalism. The national debt was created by the government spending more then it earns.....period. Countless social programs of every kind, for everything and everyone have pushed this country to its current level of debt. People have their hands out pointing to everything and everyone else as the cause for their problems.

    Your dependance on government social programs only serves to make you more dependant on the government, which then has more control over you life. Expecting the government to fix everything that hasn't gone right in your life is just stupid. And the people that call for the government to step in and redistribute the wealth of america equally to everyone are living in the wrong country.

    You want redistribution of wealth, move to a country that has socialism as its core econimic plan. If it is implimented here we will have to rename this country the "U-NITED S-TATES S-OCIALIST R-EPUBLIC"

    Start taking responsibility for your own life and make it better yourself, stop waiting and hoping someone or something else will do it for you. Once the government has control over your life they're not likely to give it back.

    • Posted By: ejgoodman @ 07/21/2009 4:37:45 PM

      Interesting you call the government "they." In a democratic republic such as ours, the government is actually "we." -- As in.... "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 07/22/2009 12:51:06 AM

        If you ever lived in socialistic country - you will learn that any big goverment is a "they", reduce it to skeleton level, and then you can consider it a part of "us".

  • Posted By: paulte @ 07/21/2009 3:43:43 PM

    I doubt the tax the rich part of the healthcare bill will fly. In fact I don't think much of anything of the Obama healthcare plan will fly. He will meet his Waterloo on that issue and it will be downhill for him from that point on! I'm happy to see him or any liberal for that matter fail. But the failure will be from the issue itself, not so much his attempt to tackle it. The same thing happened to Hillary when she tried her hand at it.

    Healthcare reform is an intractable issue. At heart Americans just don't want universal healthcare. The Europeans and the Canadians, all half baked socialists, want it but we don't. We expect the free market to deal wiht the issue and for the most part it does it pretty well. There is nothing wrong with the govt offering some sort of subsidized health insurance to the working poor but that is as far as any new healthcare initiative should go. As far as the main part of our healthcare system goes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

    • Posted By: hlgns763 @ 07/21/2009 4:57:27 PM

      there are so many things wrong here.... and the health care system is MOST DEFINATELY broken....

      i dont even know where to begin.

      stop drinking the kool-aid.

      im not a liberal/democrat either...

      to wish that our leaders fail, when they are leading you and your/our country, regardless if you like them or not, is kind of a terrible thought. disagree with them, sure, but to wish that all the attempts to fix our issues as a country fail miserably is terrible. at least someone is doing something.

      what are you doing?

      • Posted By: bighappy @ 07/22/2009 12:43:13 AM

        When our great leader asks you to jump from the cliff - I suggest you to jump, don't let him fail. We will stand around and applaud, and then then push Obama from the same cliff as well.

  • Posted By: Leroy Jenkins @ 07/21/2009 3:06:34 PM

    "But people with only one idea really have no idea; they have only a mental default position." - George Will

    As in... "Tax Cuts! We need more Tax Cuts!" - the GOP's answer to every imaginable problem on the planet.

    Consider: We just celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Apollo Moon landing... probably the most impressive achievement yet of our species. The program was implemented at the behest of a Democratic president (Kennedy). Certainly "beating the Soviets" was probably the main impetus behind the idea at the time, but the results speak for themselves. There are some programs that are just too expensive for "the private sector" to finance in the gestation phase. The space program cost us less than one-half of one percent of GDP at the time. Not just the USA, but the world has benefited greatly by many of the technological offshoots of the space program (computer refinements, communication satellites, teflon, etc.). A pretty good return on investment, I'd say.

    Was the space program absolutely necessary in the 1960's? Probably not. But if we only were to constantly focus only on cutting taxes, there's no way it would have happened at all. And that would be a shame.

    One other thought: Obama's proposed idea of repealing the Bush tax cuts would take us back to Clinton's top bracket of 39.6% vs. 35% today. The US economy performed a LOT better in the 1990's (under the 39.6% top rate) than it has in this decade (with the 35% top rate). As for the investor class that Mr. Will references, the stock market has fared better under the Dems vs. the GOP since the federal income tax was introduced in 1913. And yes, generally under higher tax rates! In fact, according to Ibbotson, if you contrast the market's starting point vs. ending value over the course of all of the administrations since 1913, it has not been down in any of the seven Democratic president's terms. Under the Republican president's terms, the market has been down three times out of nine.

    • Posted By: hlgns763 @ 07/21/2009 5:00:53 PM

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  • Posted By: Common-Tator @ 07/20/2009 9:00:25 PM

    #1 -- so much for the "liberal media bias" when Newsweek is promoting George Will's upper class screed.
    #2 -- "Overtaxing"?!?! The table has been tilted in favor of the rich, with more and more of the wealth concentrated in fewer and fewer of the people, while the middle class sinks and has no idea why (thanks to people like George Will).
    #3 -- The rich have done a great job in selling the idea that they pass up good investment opportunities because of their lack of resources Interest rates are very low. The rich are already taking advantage of good investment opportunities. If we arrange for them to have even more money, then they'd invest in bad businesses to generate more jobs? They didn't get rich by being that stupid. It's like the idea that raising taxes on retail establishments forces them to raise prices. Does anyone really think they're not already charging whatever prices are the most profitable (balancing profit margin and sales volume)? Lower tax rates for the rich just makes them richer, it doesn't make them invest in anything they aren't already investing in.

    • Posted By: zaxxon23 @ 07/21/2009 2:10:18 PM

      The middle class sinks because it consistently spends more than it can afford and lives in a pile of debt. Rich people don't get rich by acting like middle class people. Middle class people never get rich because they can't stop acting like middle class.

  • Posted By: flagirl @ 07/21/2009 10:24:08 AM

    It is apparent that there are huge misconceptions of how much is rich, who the rich are, how the rich live, how much in taxes they pay, etc. One thing that has been said that is correct - the government will only be able to tax the rich to a certain point. If the tax rate was 98% (a number I have seen on this board), a person earning $1 billion (a fraction of what Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, i.e. earn) they would still be left with $2 million. Who in their right mind would stay in a place with that kind of tax code? People who can afford it will move taking away any jobs they might employ and income from any goods/services they consume - i.e. the store that sells their $300 shoes, the manufactory that makes the shoes, the company that provides the material for the shoes, the designer who created the shoes.

    One person likened the wealthy to "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous." It seems people that do not have as much money as those in the top percentage brackets think that the rich have every material thing their hearts could desire. Not to say that the rich don't have a leg up but most wealthy people become wealthy because they are practical.

  • Posted By: Classenvyiswicked @ 07/20/2009 4:11:39 PM

    Fundamentally, it really doesn't matter if taxing the rich will hurt the economy or not. Envying the wealthy and using the government to confiscate their money is IMMORAL. If you want more money, go out and work for it yourself!

    • Posted By: Coventry @ 07/21/2009 9:55:53 AM

      As stated in the article in question, people's means to make money and build wealth are driven, in large measure, by things they have no control over (e.g. luck, IQ, attractiveness). Therefore it is not rational to tell every underachiever to "go out and earn your money like I did." Their best effort might bear little or no fruit. Those fortunate enough to inherit the characteristics that allow outsize gains from society WILL be required to contribute a substantial percentage of those gains to the members of society whose circumstances make personal wealth-building impossible. Those who are possessed of outsize advantages will need to make similarly outsize contributions. One could argue that this penalizes overachievers, but in reality it only punishes those less fortunate to a lesser degree.

    • Posted By: LawyerLady @ 07/20/2009 4:14:10 PM

      Right on Class!

      • Posted By: Classenvyiswicked @ 07/20/2009 4:21:51 PM

        Thanks, LawyerLady. My husband and I are raising four children on a very meager salary and could qualify for all kind of government handouts. We won't take them, though, as we refuse to steal from our fellow citizens

        • Posted By: LawyerLady @ 07/20/2009 4:27:07 PM

          I forgot to say too, kudos to you and your husband!

        • Posted By: LawyerLady @ 07/20/2009 4:26:31 PM

          Again, right on! I am a lawyer, but that doesn't automatically make me wealthy as many people assume it does. I have to say, I would feel disgusted with myself in taking handouts from the government. I don't want to be that kind of person.

  • Posted By: silviodg @ 07/21/2009 9:42:05 AM

    This article is so ful of old chestnuts, it should be Christmas. Give money to the rich because they know how to spend it. Shades of the old "trickle down theory."
    When was the last time that a rich person built an interstate highway? The wealth of this nation has been and will continue to be a collaborative effort. The current rich only mine the wealth that this country generates. Marginal thinkers fail to realize that their vacation is dependent on a wealthy society. To whom will you peddle Newsweek in patagonia?

  • Posted By: Nicole C. @ 07/21/2009 9:07:30 AM

    Not impressed with your arguments, Mr. Will. Most of the rich who will be affected by Obama's tax raise will pay out $1,000 more per year - chump change for them. It's hard to feel sorry for the poor, beleaguered rich when *they're* the ones who took American middle-class and blue-collar jobs overseas to pay a few bucks, and set up offshore tax havens so they can avoid paying the taxes they actually owe. Whine whine whine, waahh waahh waaahh. Oh, and when you don't have a better argument accuse the oppositiion of "Communism" and tell them to move to North Korea. (Memo to rich conservative crybabies: Communist flames are soooooo 1983!)

    Don't like government handouts? Bet you monied whiners are all in favor of corporate welfare, which is always the rage under a Republican government.

    Does *anyone* even bother listening to Republicans/conservatives anymore, when their free-market fundamentalism and phobia of government regulation has brought the global economy to its knees? What part of "The love of money is the root of all evil" do these alleged Jesus groupies not get? George Will is one of the less-hysterical conservative writers and less prone to insane invective, which is why I even bothered to read this column. Here are two words for anyone who wants to whine and complain about how much money Obama is costing them: IRAQ WAR.

  • Posted By: Coventry @ 07/21/2009 8:48:56 AM

    "As society becomes more competitive and more meritocratic, income inequality is likely to rise simply as a consequence of the underlying -inequality???which is very great???between people that is due to differences in IQ, energy, health, social skills, character, ambition, physical attractiveness, talent, and luck."

    I can scarcely believe my eyes! While the truth of the above statement is virtually indisputable, it flies in the face of political principals espoused for well over 200 years. The very Declaration of Independence states that "all men are created equal"! If the truth be that some men are (much) more equal than others, then the goals and objectives of our society must take this into account and determine what the "common denominator" of affluence for all of society will be. The greatest political truism for the last two centuries has been that "most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than face the reality of being poor." If, as a result of the current economic downturn, the majority of people begin to realize that their own particular talents and deficits leave them with little hope of economic survival (let alone prosperity), then they will likely look to society at large to provide some assurance that their individual circumstances will not be permitted to fall below a certain level. It may very well be that these harsh realities will dramatically reshape what people will come to expect from their government. Indeed, because there exists such dramatic structural INequality within our society, it would seem that a policy which redistributes the wealth of those blessed with intelligence, drive, social skills and luck to those who fundamentally lack these advantages is not only necessary, but unavoidable. With the advent the "desire machine" of television. our society has calibrated what people see as a minimally satisfying existence so high, that taxing the wealthy in some way is virtually unavoidable if we are to maintain what has become an acceptable living standard. The trick will be to structure the taxation at a level which still makes exploiting ones superior talents and abilities desirable, while at the same time removing (or vastly scaling back) the concept of fantastic wealth as the potential fruit of one's labors.

    If society is foolish enough to allow living standards to fall far enough fast enough, the very fabric of society may be put asunder by the resulting political and social unrest.

  • Posted By: flagirl @ 07/21/2009 7:26:25 AM

    In 2009, those making $750,000, the top 1%, pay 35% income tax. Those, like Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, Warren Buffet, just to name a few are billionaires (many times over) and are also in the top 1% and pay 35% income tax. I don't mean to pick on them because they do do wonderful things with their money - in other countries as well which is admirable. What about a couple more tax brackets for the astronomically wealthy?

  • Posted By: photoguy @ 07/21/2009 7:25:49 AM

    OK, who paid you for this story???????

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