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The Tortured Brain

Extreme pain and stress can actually impair a person's ability to tell the truth.

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  • Posted By: Scuromondo @ 09/23/2009 8:13:55 AM

    If it is agreed that torture is an acceptable practice that yields an abundance of valuable results to investigators, perhaps it should be brought into the mainstream protocol of law enforcement. After arresting a suspect, reading him the required Miranda Warning, and filling out and the necessary paperwork, the police could then quickly get down to business with a couple of waterboardings after lunch, some nude humiliation in the late afternoon, perhaps a few threats to his family's life before dinner, followed by another go at the waterboard before settling in for a sleep-deprived all-nighter. If he's proven guilty, we'll all have the evidence we need to support the effictiveness of torture. If he's innocent, then we can all say that it was for justified anyway since it was for a righteous cause, and anyway it gave the police a bit of fun for the day.

  • Posted By: nutgrape @ 09/22/2009 7:09:34 PM

    errantacademic

    What a good name for a liberal arts major who knows nothing of science, besides some non-major courses taken halfheartedly as an undergrad. You are stating your long held belief, based upon nothing. Then to back it up you toss out some beliefs of an ancient civilization, ROFL

    The Romans also believed in a plethora of gods, that the earth was the center of the universe, a corpse bred maggots, and that disease was caused by vapors. Academic lightweights such as yourself are a function of how badly our educational institutions are serving the public, if you have a degree at all.

  • Posted By: bh192012 @ 09/22/2009 6:55:34 PM

    The problem with torture, is it's a gamble. There is a chance you are torturing this person for no reason, there is a chance they will tell you good, new info if you threaten or perform torture. You still have to weed out the lies from the good info via some other way still.

    Imagine you had some secret you didn't want to share. Infidelity, a drug habbit, some crime whatever. If a random person started to interrogate me, I'd tell them lies. Under torture I'd eventually tell them the truth. I really would. Then again I don't have any important secret. If I did, I'd try really hard to not tell them. They would then still have to sort through all the stuff I've told them. So the real paradox is, that torture probably really does work, but only for unimportant secrets or those not protected by a strong will. Even under harsh torture (unless I really believed that they already knew the whole truth) I'd make a psudo-lie and pretend it's the truth.

    But now we're in a situation where the crime (lets say theft) is less criminal than the method of detection (torture.) For something like the password to access a nuclear warhead or something I would not tell the truth. I would lie to myself and convince myself of the lie if I had to. The only way I could see torture maybe working in a terrorist case, is if you were trying to angle for a trivial detail, something not percieved by the terrorist as important. Then again, you could probably get that detail w/o the torture.

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