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  • Posted By: rye75 @ 10/15/2009 2:59:38 PM

    bjsassy,

    Good points.. I have felt the 'penalty' for not adhereing to coverage mandates needs to be much stiffer than what's being proposed. There are certainly a number of issues with the bills being considered in congress.

    I think alot of these 'flaws' are actually 'consessions'... Whether it be consessions to the opposing party, consessions to a powerful lobby (pharma), or other consessions that someone has convinced legistatures that they need be done in order to pass it thru.

    Coming from someone that DOES want to see reform, including a public option, including coverage mandates, and including tort reform, I believe that some of these criticms being posted are legitmate and the types of debate we should be seeing. I'd also like to hear much more about pending legislations impact on ERISA, and better understand if the law being passed allows for ERISA group plans to contninue plans across state lines.

    At least we're not agruing about 'Killing Grandma'!

  • Posted By: earthorbitsthesun @ 10/15/2009 2:23:12 AM

    Gvillagran3;

    vig spews - "Did Obama loose the elections?"

    Well at least you know he won the election! But of course as a kid I my first home run was the reslut of the errors of all three basemen! Daaaaang! can I be President next, I can dink it up as good as Obama? Momma be so proud! ;-)!

    vig spews - "Did Obama took away our guns?"

    That's what a Liberal wants to do, so this was just flack of a Liberal getting in office; guess Obama is good with just taking away our right to have a voice in government, not just a vote. So much for our Constitution!

    vig spews - "Did Obama walked from Iraq right after taking office?"

    These things take time, and the talks were underway before Obama; our do nothing and wait and see take if he can take credit or has to pass the buck. Wow, Obama is allot like you but instead he makes a gazillion speeches, dang, he's bound to get something right, your right the man is a success! :-)! What you never heard of spitting, spit wads at a wall something's gonna stick!! :-)

    vig spews - "Did Obama killed Granma?"

    Nope, thank you Sarah Palin!!!

    vig spews - "Did Obama indoctrinated our students about socialism?"

    Naw, but he sure has that whole Man-boy love thing going on for him!

    Which leaves me this last statement of your below; but I all ready know, you know very little, too nothing about much of anything. So I leave you for now with this last part from the rest of your post and thanks for the laugh!!

    ???Did Obama destroyed Capitalism ? ... Have you checked Wall Street lately and see how worried they are about "Government take overs" of the health care industry ? Have you ever seen a "Socialized Industry " where the stock goes up when "Socialized" pal ?"

    And it just goes on and on!! :-)!!

  • Posted By: earthorbitsthesun @ 10/15/2009 1:36:33 AM

    Gvillagran3;

    HaHa, and there you go again pretending you know anything about finances, the Stock Market or why so much goes to Health care. Wow, no wait, I bet Obama wants you as an advisor!! :-)! Imagine that your skills could prove, all of our highly experienced financial advisors are all just racists and that they are the morons!!! :-)

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