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The coauthor of SuperFreakonomics talks about whether the book minimizes global warming, whether humans are truly selfless, and what the long-term effects of Hurricane Katrina might be.

 

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Helen of Troy had the face that launched a thousand ships; Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner had the book that launched a thousand copycat bestsellers. Including, inevitably, their own. The duo that brought you Freakonomics, with its dismal-science approach to crack-cocaine dealers and baby names, is back this month with a sequel to the phenomenal bestseller: SuperFreakonomics: Global Cooling, Patriotic Prostitutes, and Why Suicide Bombers Should Buy Life Insurance. NEWSWEEK's Barrett Sheridan spoke with Levitt, an economist at the University of Chicago, about the controversy over geoengineering, how to get a college student to do anything, and more. Excerpts:

SuperFreakonomics includes a chapter on global warming, focusing especially on geoengineering, a blanket term for technologies that could be used to intentionally alter the earth's climate. One much-discussed idea would involve shooting sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere to block the sun's rays. The reaction in the blogosphere has been intense and mostly negative, with a lot of people saying the book minimizes and distorts the problem of global warming. What's your response?
A few people who have a particular agenda have said statements that are almost categorically false. What we really say in the global-warming chapter, and what we really believe, is that the Earth is getting warmer and that it looks like it's due to human activity—although it's always harder to say why something happens than it is to simply observe that it happens. But that's not even what our chapter is about. It's about the following question: if the Earth gets too hot, what's the best way to cool it down? The conventional wisdom today is that it's by reducing carbon emissions. But that's incredibly expensive—easily trillions of dollars—and it's hard. It requires 7 billion people to change their behavior. Geoengineering proposals seem to have much more desirable properties: they're very cheap, and they're completely reversible. And if they work, we will get immediate reductions in temperatures.

And if they don't?
If they don't, you turn them off, and almost immediately any effects of having done it will disappear. This is built on really well-understood science. So whatever noise and shouting has occurred on the blogosphere, I have to be honest, I don't understand it. I just can't understand why any environmentalist who really cares about the Earth could say with a straight face that geoengineering solutions do not deserve a seat at the table.

In the book, you include a quote from the mayor of London, Boris Johnson, comparing climate-change activism to religion.
I do think that climate science is equal parts science, politics, and religion. I think that's a very fair statement to say.

SuperFreakonomics has a whole chapter dedicated to experiments on the topic of human altruism—whether we're selfish or selfless at heart. Do you come down one way or the other?
No. I think people are neither altruistic to their core nor selfish to their core. I think it's very situational. And what the research by me and [University of Chicago professor] John List has been about is trying to come up with systematic ways of understanding when people will behave altruistically and when they will not.

Is it a matter of finding the right incentives?
It's partly about incentives. But a lot of it has to do with whether it's a repeated situation. Take the example of the Old West. When a barn burned down, the community would gather around and everyone would rebuild the barn together. That certainly looks altruistic at a distance, but when you get closer, you realize people are thinking, "If I don't help the other guy build his barn, then when mine burns down, I've got no one to rebuild my barn." We also focus on the degree of scrutiny, the extent to which other people are watching your behavior and can put social pressure on you to behave in a certain way.

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    On December 10, Obama will receive his award in Oslo, just in time to energize the ???Copenhagen??? agenda. Whether or not he shows up at the UN meeting, the ideological intensions and expectations have been air freighted in the form a Nobel Prize.

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