The God Debate

That's a relief!

I am a newly graduate of master of science and now will be writing another one. And this time, il be using transdisciplinarity and I have come accross this debate as I am surfing the net to find facts and references. Among numerous archives i had, this one ive finish to read until the end word of warren. Let me relate my research method, which is transdisciplinarity, to the debate of sam and rick. I think these two guys have no idea yet, or maybe have known truth about it, that both of them should not arguing because both of them complement each other for the people to know they can choose they way of life, and what they are, the people including myself and the tow debators' ultimate goal is -- wellbeing and happiness.
ONE THING TO CLEAR, are the two meant to debate and finally someone from them to win? or it is just a show for the journalist to have an interesting article? Anyone to blame here???? - Iris.

I hate to apply logic where religion is concerned because clearly the religious have no need or use for logic and don???t respect it at all. Has it occurred to any religious folk that even if there???s a conscious existence outside the body, that STILL does not mean or prove in any way that there is a god. ALL it means is that there is conscious existence after physical death. Since religious folk think we are the only intelligent life on the trillions of planets in the entire universe, which completely defies all manner of common sense, I guess they would never consider how they are going to explain to a 10 million IQ lifeform visiting this planet, that it has to accept Jesus as it???s savior. If religious folk do concede that there may be other intelligent life in the universe, I guess they think Jesus died a trillion deaths on a trillion different planets, and they all have a translated copy of the bible, and every intelligent life form has identical morality to our own.

What about someone who suffers a brain injury and their personality is wiped out and a new one emerges with entirely different morality than the previous one. Which one goes to heaven/hell? What about split personalities?

Religious folk seem unable as well to realize that consciousness is a spectrum, that ranges from barely self-aware instinctual bugs, to human consciousness capable of appreciation for art and physics. Even worse though, they think that human consciousness is the peak of the spectrum. No consciousness could possibly be more advanced than ours. Human consciousness is SEVERELY limited by our senses. The content of our thoughts is directly related to the number and type of senses we have. I for one have no doubt that we are no where near the top of the spectrum. Our consciousness is so weak, we cannot even process simultaneous input from more than one source. Try sitting in a room with no distractions and read a scientific article while also listening to a scientific discussion, and then take a test on what you learned. I???m betting you???ll score horribly because our consciousness can???t handle simultaneous input.

Anyway, I have hundreds of pages of arguments about the insanity of religious belief, but I???m not going to waste my time trying to lead the delusional out of the woods.

When I look at Warren's comments I see a lot of the smirking and self-preening that makes his type such a turn off to me. He clearly feels he has all the answers, despite what he might say, and that that those of us who are foolish enough to disagree with him are simply little children who either need to start going his way or are going get their hand slapped cosmically. Chastizing Harris for being close-minded, yet he freely admits that he has a blind interpretation of the bible to the point of rejecting scientific evidence is absurd. I'm so glad to hear that he believes all atheists live in places like North Korea. Plenty of people say that the problem with America these days is its lack of faith. I think most of our major problem stems from the fact that so many of our citizens are so smug and self-congratulating about belonging to the "correct" faith that they cannot even begin to relate to other countries in the world. That's going to be a big problem for us. It already is.

My advice to Newsweek is this: Consider doing this interview again but with a different person to stand up for the bible and it's world view. Rick Warren in my opinion didn't give solid and concrete answers. He leaves the reader in limbo in my opinion. If I were someone in search of God I would chose not to believe because Sam had in my opinion more ammunition to back answers. Rick Warren is a popular evangelist however I disagree with most of his work. Please select a person that will give more solid answeres and evidence. T hat person would be people like: Hank Hanegraff, Lee Strobel or Palini. Not only will they be able to answer these question more effectively but they will also make a believer out of Mr. Sam Harris.

finding an immigrant attorney by chance is not a "miracle". their are thousands of immigrant attorneys in the u.s. I recently had to find one due to a family question, and was suprised to discover his office was less than 500 ft from mine.

finding an immigrant attorney by chance is not a "miracle". their are thousands of immigrant attorneys in the u.s. I recently had to find one due to a family question, and was suprised to discover his office was less than 500 ft from mine.

finding an immigrant attorney in the same neighborhood by chance is not a "miracle". their are thousands of immigrant attorneys in the u.s. do a google search. I needed one due to family question and found out he was less than 500 ft from my office!

there is no proof of a miracle where by a person gets a missing limb reanimated. also, finding the immigrant attorney on the same block is not a sigh of a miracle. their are thousands of immigrant attorneys in the us. plus helping this immigrant could of been done without having to have an attorney drop on your doorstep. when i was looking for one due to a recent question on marriage to a permanent resident I found out he was less than 500 ft from my office!

Nevertheless, there is light and there is darkness, some believe in the light and some believe in darkness,
some believe in GOD and some believe in satan; they are both real. GOD represent the light and satan represent darkness; The darkness is constantly fighting against the light but remember GOD controls both the darkness and the light. Believe in the light so you can be children of the light. The new Jerusalem will be a city made with complete gold even the streets and there is no need for the sun because Jesus Christ will be the light of this city, what a wonderful light. We must try and understand how beautiful heaven is that Jesus Christ was will to overlook shame and chastisement to come and share this mansion with us. PLEASE ACCEPT CHRIST today.

For me I believe both God and evolution, and genetics is a flash of miracle whizzing out from God's powerful scientific scepter. Many people deny the benefits evolutionists and geneticists have been contributing for the betterment of humankind. Conversely, many scientists do not believe in God because for them, life is a matter of reason as stipulated in their scientific theory. I don't discredit other loving denominations as well.

Read this. I did the math it works. I am a believer. http://www.youtube.com/user/333MOG333

the god debate will never end, as it has never begun.
we shall never conceive more than our selves, less we name our own as god.
when we step back we can indeed see that all studies, all ologies, stem from a knowledge that is unified into a center- an infinite array displaying that what we know is more than who we are.
strive for truth and honesty and this 'debate' will prove obsolete. what we believe does not change what we are- we are the same.

Does that 91% believe in the son of GOD, no one will enter the gates of the New Jerusalem
"THE CITY OF LIGHT" unless they accept the son of GOD. Remember knowing Jesus Christ is knowing GOD. No questions you'll understand later; "LOVE ONE ANOTHER".