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  • Posted By: dayton814 @ 08/06/2008 11:07:58 PM

    They were at the age where they can be held responsable for their actions. At that age they should know better and knowing how they acted was so inappropriate. They were at the age where they can and should have changed...there up bringing at that age is no excuse for their actions. That's just what it is...an excuse. Hey..if you can't to the time, don't do the crime.

  • Posted By: christyk00 @ 08/06/2008 12:19:46 AM

    Another thing...I'm reading a lot of comments about Texas....isn't our President from Texas?? hmm... :) haha!

    • Posted By: facey06 @ 08/06/2008 10:57:05 PM

      yeah, he may have been...but look where thats gotten us...hmm...i think you better rethink your argument.

  • Posted By: facey06 @ 08/06/2008 10:25:12 PM

    I think that its good that they made the movie. Now that what they did is out in the public eye its easier to see that things like that go on all the time all over the place. People who are showing even an ouce of compassion for these girls for the hurtful and wrong things they did to others just so they would always be popular and step on other people when they are down isn't a good role model for anyone ever. And, even if these girls were spoiled rotten and thats all they knew doesn't mean that thats the main reason for the things they did. The reason they got away with doing the things they did is because their parents let them get away with it. They always helped them in the wrong way. Instead of blaming the girls for the terrible things they were doing, their parents were blaming the cheerleading coach. Also, these girls didn't just make mistakes, they were physically and mentally abusive to other girls on the cheerleading team, their coach, and some of the teachers in their school. The movie that has been made probably didn't do anything to hurt what has already been done and standing up for these girls is rediculous. I'm in no way saying that its ok to jugde because it is true that we don't know the whole story with these girls, but you also can't feel sorry for people who hurt people for no reason at all and could had hurt themselves in the end.

  • Posted By: Tina bby xo x3 @ 08/06/2008 9:59:45 PM

    Respect isnt the issue, the girls where raised spolied rotten. Thats all they knew. So the girls made a few mistakes.. so doesnt everyone else. You dont even know these girls, so stop judging them. Maybe these girls where going through a hard time. Did you ever hear of that girls father in the movie.. no she could have a bad home situation. Im not proud of the girls and there not proud of themselves for what they did. Everytime they try to forget about it and move on they cant beause people like you have to bring it up. Now thanks to the movie everybody knows.

  • Posted By: Georgiagirl6787 @ 08/06/2008 9:38:50 PM

    Also please dont assume that I did not know how to respect people. I did over 100 hours of community service each year I attended high school. I was on the advisory board for the local food bank, did after school programs for underpriveledged children, etc. But what do people remember? They remember what I did at night and on the weekends. Why? Because the bad is more fun to talk about than the good. Period.

  • Posted By: Georgiagirl6787 @ 08/06/2008 9:35:57 PM

    I'm by no means saying there is nothing wrong with the behavior. I am however saying there is something wrong with taking peoples' lives and exploiting them for publicity or a good news story. While most grow out of their adolescent behavior these girls are going to have to live with being known for what that did at 18 well into their 20's, 30's, etc. Im not saying that they should not have been disciplined. Im saying leave them alone.

  • Posted By: dayton814 @ 08/06/2008 7:38:32 PM

    I went to high school in the same area as these girls. I was also a cheerleader. Who the heck to you think you are? I am sorry, nobody on my squad did anything like these girls. Yes we were typical teenagers and did in trouble but we got punished for it. One difference is that we respected our school, friends, parents, and our teachers. I can just say that I am proud for not acting that way and so is the rest of the school. So goodie for you girls that were "mean girls". I am sure you must be really proud of yourself. Give yourself a pat on the back. I just hope you learned how to respect other people.

  • Posted By: dayton814 @ 08/06/2008 7:31:51 PM

    I went to high school in the same area as these girls. I was also a cheerleader. Who the heck to you think you are? I am sorry, nobody on my squad did anything like these girls. Yes we were typical teenagers and did in trouble but we got punished for it. One difference is that we respected our school, friends, parents, and our teachers. I can just say that I am proud for not acting that way and so is the rest of the school. So goodie for you girls that were "mean girls". I am sure you must be really proud of yourself. Give yourself a pat on the back. I just hope you learned how to respect other people.

  • Posted By: Tina bby xo x3 @ 08/06/2008 7:04:50 PM

    Everyone is acting like these girls killed somebody. All they did was have a fun while there young. Honestly cell phones in class is not a big deal, its not going to hurt anybody. As for drinking and sex who are you to judge the life these girls live? Im 26 now and I can honestly say discipline never worked it just made me act out more. What if this was your daughter? You wouldn???t think its that big of a deal. Maybe these girls werent well behaved but it doesnt make them bad people. So leave them alone.

  • Posted By: diane53mo @ 08/06/2008 6:40:52 PM

    I cannot believe the comments here. People are you listening to yourselves? Cheerleading is a sport, and if they can't conduct themselves appropriately, they should not be allowed to be on the 'team'. As far as the way they talk to their teachers, they should be suspended. As for cell phones in the class room being used, they should be taken away. Since when did the kids start running the show? They are there for an education. As for the principle/parent that allowed this to go on, she obviously is not qualified to have her position. Anyone that says this is just normal teenage actions must be a teenager. Tina...if you can say you acted this way without remorse, then you have a problem. Leave the poor girls alone???Poor girls my behind....if they weren't cheeleaders I daresay they would be in alternative schools...and don't even try to say 'aaah, you must have been a nobody in school' that is not the case, and I would never have dreamed of acting like this. If people keep being accepting of this, then therein lies the problem.

  • Posted By: Tina bby xo x3 @ 08/06/2008 5:37:16 PM

    I agree with georgiagirl 100 percent. The so called "Fab 5" just acted like normal teenagers. I was Varsity cheerleading captain in high school and me and the rest of the team all had the same behavior as the "Fab 5" None of us where ever disciplined because there was not one person that could handle us. The more people talked the more we acted out because we loved the attention. Just leave the poor girls alone.. If you want to help them that???s the way to do it. Not make a movie out of it. I???m not sayings the behavior is right... but I am sayings that were all guilty of it. Oh and I will add that me and most of my cheerleading team from high school still communicate every now and then and we all have a good head on our shoulders. Its just part of being young.. They will grow up.

  • Posted By: Tina bby xo x3 @ 08/06/2008 5:36:42 PM

    I agree with georgiagirl 100 percent. The so called "Fab 5" just acted like normal teenagers. I was Varsity cheerleading captain in high school and me and the rest of the team all had the same behavior as the "Fab 5" None of us where ever disciplined because there was not one person that could handle us. The more people talked the more we acted out because we loved the attention. Just leave the poor girls alone.. If you want to help them that???s the way to do it. Not make a movie out of it. I???m not sayings the behavior is right... but I am sayings that were all guilty of it. Oh and I will add that me and most of my cheerleading team from high school still communicate every now and then and we all have a good head on our shoulders. Its just part of being young.. They will grow up.

  • Posted By: YvonneNC @ 08/06/2008 4:57:32 PM

    Georgiagirl, you have got to be kidding! You sound like your teenage years may have been a while ago, but it's obvious that you haven't learned a thing in the interim. Your reputation was ruined? You mean, by others, not yourself? You admit your behavior was similar to that of the girls in the movie, yet you were embarassed when people talked about it?? I think your social anxiety may just be repercussions from all the brain cells you drowned. You are the epitome of what's wrong with today's youth, whose maturity level has shrunk expoentially from their assumption of entitlement and lack of being held responsible. You are older and still don't get it. Pathetic!

  • Posted By: mpmumau @ 08/03/2008 9:00:19 PM

    Is it any wonder that southern and south western schools provide such a lower level of education? Cheerleading, football and other kinds of after school activities should rank as high as stamp collecting and boondoggling, whereas in actuality they are treated as free passes for involved students to do as they please. So long as school districts in the south continue to have little focus on academics, the stereotypes those in the north advance about the intelligence level of southerners will continue. And is it not a little scary that our president, who was responsible for one of the largest overhauls in education policy, is from Texas? Doesn't seem like a good idea to trust someone who comes from a place where the biggest thing anyone can say about the state's schools is that there are ongoing problems with athletic programs that overshadow the value of learning how to read and write. I apologize to the cheerleader who responded in defense of Texas cheerleading programs, but if it were up to me, I'd completely disband them, or else require those who are involved to have such an impecable level of academic ability that those girls who were eventually allowed on the squad wouldn't so much as walk the wrong way down the halls lest they be kicked out of the program immediately. Let's put our heads on and focus on things that ACTUALLY matter in this world rather than frivolous things like cheerleading.

    • Posted By: falcon24 @ 08/03/2008 10:20:47 PM

      Look mpmumau,
      By reading your comment, I can tell that you are not from Texas. Can I ask you where you are from and also, where you live now? My bet is that you are another northern implant (we call you people YANKIES)now living in Texas because life in the north was not as good as it is here so you have moved here looking for (and have found) a better life. Let me share with you some info. Texans are tired of you people moving to our great state with your U-Haul moving vans and pompous attitudes, putting down our way of life and telling us how stupid we are. Who do you think you are? Have you looked around our state? We are one of the most wealthy states in the country that is full of people that make pretty damn good livings. Sure we have our problems with some of our schools but this school does not reflect our whole school system for the state. Yes, football and cheerleading are big in texas but so is hockey in the north. Do you really think that we care what the hell you or any other yankie thinks of us or are intrested in your opinions of how we
      raise our kids? So, please take my advise. If you are not from this state or if you have infested our state with your presence, when it comes to our way of life here, you either need to keep your mouth shut or get the hell out of our state.

      • Posted By: havingfun @ 08/03/2008 11:00:44 PM

        Okay this so thouroughly cracks me up. You are trying to insult Northerners and make a defense for Texans yet you are not accomplishing what you set out to do. First of all, you should realize that you are claiming to not care what people think of you, yet you are on here trying to defend yourself, and secondly you are making a great point that something is wrong with the school system there. Just a few suggestions when you are deciding to be a righteous, insulting lowlife. You give someone your "Advice" not your "advise" (see Websters if you are confused) and the word has always been spelled Yankee. Perhaps you were too busy drinking and getting knocked up to pay attention to your education. I do hope that you take more care when it comes to your children. If not, please keep them in Texas so that the rest of the states do not have to deal with your idiocy. I believe the problem that went on with the Fab Five was an isolated problem that had nothing to do with them being in Texas; it could happen anywhere. Good luck with dealing with your "Yankie" problem, and y'all take now!! :p

      • Posted By: Danilynn24 @ 08/05/2008 5:34:44 PM

        I think you need to do your research about the great wealth of Texas. If you look up stats on the wealthiest places in the United States...only two Texas towns show up. In fact, more than half are in the Northern states. And, the two states that tied for the most money were Colorado and Virginia. That kind of blows your argument that people want to move to Texas for a better salary. I personally cannot fathom why anyone would want to move to Texas, maybe because its "a whole other country"...sigh.

        • Posted By: ttuhsc @ 08/05/2008 6:34:32 PM

          Danilynn, I live in Dallas and I would have to agree with him//her on one thing. There are a lot of northerners that are moving to Texas. I moved here from a small town in west Texas and it seems that everyone I met in my neighborhood was from the northeast. I have never seen so many yankees in one place in my life. I was here for a week before a ran into another Texan. You people must breed like rabbits up there. Have ya'll ever heard of birthcontol? And yes, most of them move down here to make a better living for themselves so you can't tell me that Texas hasn't anything to offer because something is bringing them down here. The problem that Texans have is that they are not moving back.

    • Posted By: monkey1980 @ 08/04/2008 1:27:11 AM

      It's sad that ignorant people make ignorant comments such as southern schools not being concerned about academics in school. I grew up in Texas and graduated in the top of my class. I was in cheerleading and my district and state takes academics very seriously. I know it's hard for northerns to think out side the box or maybe they just have brain freeze due to all the cold weather that goes on up there but to make a comment such as that is just rediculous.

    • Posted By: socal2720 @ 08/03/2008 9:26:24 PM

      Don't fool yourself, I went to public high school in NY. Although these kids are very stupid, I doubt that any part of the country can "out dumb" Long Island.

  • Posted By: Georgiagirl6787 @ 08/06/2008 11:43:42 AM

    I'm not excusing the behavior of these girls but this all seems typical of the behavior of myself and my friends in high school. I think these girls were made to be monsters when really they were just adolescents. My friends and I engaged in much of the same behavior. Alcohol, attitude, boys, etc. are all unfortunately a part of being a teenage girl for many. I feel badly that their behavior was exploited and turned into a Lifetime Movie. My behavior was gossiped about to the point that I developed social anxiety and dropped out of many activities. The snide judgement has affected me into my adult life. My reputation was ruined as mine and my friend's behaviors was blown out of proportion. It was embarassing enough having just a smaller town talk about me. I can't imagine what it's like for these girls to have a whole nation talk about their lives.

  • Posted By: tallyattwater @ 08/05/2008 9:21:59 PM

    This goes out to 'Justrealityplz' and 'Tomcat'...to say that I am abhorred by your comments would be an understatement. However, I have to take into consideration that you are no doubt uneducated, overweight and have to get your thrills by either paying for them or using deceit. Your misogynistic undertones under-whelm me as no doubt they do your wives. Take your large ego and your small ***** to another (less informed) site. Thanks!

    • Posted By: Justrealityplz @ 08/06/2008 10:54:56 AM

      I cannot, yes I can believe that there are still people who cannot bring thierselves to realize that young girls in shorts skirts doing pelvis thrusts do not do something for all men, I have even had a pastor freind who admits that he has to keep his eyes focused on the games or his mind wonders. Get over it if you put your daughter out there to shake her body around she is going to be lusted after. You have just made her the SEX Object and it is by you the parents choice to do that. So do not get upset at the fact that old guys leer at her and young guys drool over her and that she gets away with quite a few things. These girls got away with what they wanted for the most part because of fantasies that the men were having and then there are the mothers who chose to live thier lives through thier daughters so they think all this is a game.. BUT God forbid an older guy should look at her daughter , then he is a pervert.
      This entire situation could be totaly avoided if Parents would act like parents and chose not to let thier young daughters shake it for the team. But there is noone going to agree with that because the men love it and the woment wish they could be them.. Facts of Life
      Grow Up.......

  • Posted By: crissa0512 @ 08/03/2008 8:53:28 PM

    As a former cheerleader/drill team member at their (McKinney North) rival high school, I am shocked and appalled that such a thing has happened with no sort of consequence. It's true that in Texas, drill team, cheerleading and football are shined in the highest light--unfortunately like "gods" of high school. Personally, I am ashamed because I knew in and out of my uniform, I was representing the school, my team and myself, and held up to my responsibilities. Kids are going to make mistakes but adults, the higher administration and their parents need to step in and and make sure there are consequences.

    • Posted By: LoveItOrLeaveItUSA2008 @ 08/06/2008 4:17:03 AM

      You have obviously been taught well by your parents. Pass it on to your kids.

  • Posted By: LoveItOrLeaveItUSA2008 @ 08/06/2008 4:02:58 AM

    Is pius47 for real? I really thought that was a spoof until I realized that you just can't make that much ignorance up. Can't spell, terrible grammar, mixing up meaning of words(moral-morale) making up new words(bigotism? try bigotry). We all put up a typo now and then but that is atrocious. Then to top it off by preaching to us and telling us to "consider the european model". This is the same "Euoropean Model" that we have had to bail out in 2 World Wars because half of them won't fight when given the opportunity(FRENCH) and the other half would rather appease a monster like Hitler(A lot of Brits(not all) and the Italians) than stand up to him. If pius thinks "The European Model" is so great then I would encourage them to take up residency over there and then beg us to come and save them for a 3rd time. This is exactly why I have my daughter in a private school so she won't be exposed to out of control teenagers who are lashing out for attention with promiscuity and other assorted things that plague are schools today and that have nothing to do with education. This is another reason for school choice with vouchers. These things are also in the private schools but not flaunted and if exposed are dealt with swiftly and harshly. Agree 110% with pandbalways. These parents would rather be "best friends" than actually lay down the law with some tough love. And that is what most of these messed up kids need and want. Structure, discipline, attention and somebody to look up to and emulate. Not a best friend that they can party with and manipulate. They are crying out for structure and attention by misbehaving. Some more than others. These "Fab 5" girls are obviously at the extreme of obnoxious behavior, but think God for the coach that finally stood up to them and for the principled independent investigator who took them down several notches and put them in their place. Hopefully, they will all learn from this and won't continue to be parasites on society for the rest of their lives. Volunteering at a VA hospital, a neonatal intensive care unit or some other form of public service would probably do them some good. And God Bless The USA.

  • Posted By: wendyd205 @ 08/03/2008 2:24:45 PM

    I agree. Yes, these girls suffered from a serious lack of discipline (not uncommon today), and yes, there are many kids (and parents) out there that need a serious ass kickin', but the price of gas in my neighborhood is hovering around $4.00/gallon. Why aren't they making a made-for-TV movie about the real reasons behind that!?

    • Posted By: hkmcs @ 08/06/2008 4:00:23 AM

      because different tv programs are made for different types of audiences; there's a reason this show is shown on lifetime. plus when this movie was made no one knew gas prices would go up to $4 per gallon.

  • Posted By: falcon24 @ 08/04/2008 2:26:37 PM

    Now your comments all makes sense. Your an atheist. You probably don't understand this but this is the biggest problem America faces as a nation. I appologize for putting you in Texas or anywhere else in the south and I'm relieved that you live in the north so you can't poison our childrens minds with your philosophical beliefs and liberal opinions however, I do feel sorry for your children. You probably feel that believing in such things as Christianity and God is only for the week minded like the southern people of the United States.and you are way to sophisticated for such non-sense as that with your northern upbringing. Whether you believe it or not, my friend, you are the week minded and one of these days God is going to show you just how much..

    • Posted By: mpmumau @ 08/04/2008 7:38:56 PM

      LOL yeah I wouldn't want to inflict great thinkers like Aristotle, Descartes, Kant, Nietzsche or any of the other philosophers who have studied religion and vast amounts of other subjects in great depth on your children. That would be poison. I also wouldn't even waste time mentioning to you that if you took the time to pick up a book or two you might find you'd even agree with some of those great thinkers. The fact is, however, that education requires objectivity, something I wouldn't imagine you could conjur up in your best efforts. I don't believe in God, but I also don't mind that others do because I don't think there's a way either side can be absolutely sure. However, forcing Christianity down the throats of our children, especially in a public school where not all students enrolled might agree with that viewpoint, is wrong. And creating something called "intelligent design" to warp the study of theology, which has been explored by far more intelligent people that you and I for thousands of years, is quite frankly laughable. The only reason I made that side point in the first place is because that entire concept came out of southern, Christian schools, especially in places where football and cheerleading tend to be taken way too seriously for comfort. The issue isn't whether or not good or bad schools exist in other parts of the country. If they exist in other parts as well, they deserve a bad wrap, too. It just seems to be that these kinds of news stories that reveal that entire towns are uneducated and poor leaders seem to happen more often than not in the south. I don't believe there is such a thing as a person who can't change or become better or smarter, when people like you, who believe that saying something louder or more aggresively, makes what they say right lead people, there is no chance for improvement -- only wallowing in self-pride. So enjoy the south, which will remain in the dark ages about issues that the rest of the country has resolved decades if not hundreds of years ago. Wouldn't want to ask you to do something horrendous like read a book!

      • Posted By: blak9221 @ 08/06/2008 1:50:26 AM

        Oh please! It's evident that you've never been to the South and only believed what you've seen on TV. Christianity is certainly not forced down the throats of our childern and it a very diverse environment and you should take a look at yourself before calling other close-minded. Ever heard of the Texas Medical Center? Perhaps M.D. Anderson? They are the ones trying the make the world a better and healthier place, advancing medical reasearch and knowledge everyday. Oh how abuot Dr. Debakey, who has proabably saved the life of one of your relatives. Yeah, defefintely in the Dark Ages. I suppose people up North have already discovered a cure of cancer? Heck, probably Death the way you talk about it!

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