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  • Posted By: genghiskhan1308 @ 09/28/2008 7:25:51 PM

    Entrepreneur is synonymous with 'risk taker.' A risk taker is not a risk taker if he will be bailed by the safety net of a bailout when the risks are great. The higher the return, the higher the risk. They took the higher returns when the risks were high...now that their risks are 'too' high and they are not getting the returns they expected, they want a bailout! Let them lose now...they were so accustomed to winning! I will boycott paying taxes so as not to finance the bailout!

  • Posted By: randiddy @ 09/28/2008 6:45:29 PM

    I went to Vegas last year and lost money gambling can I be bailed out for my loss. Isn't the stock market a gamble, why bail out Wall Street and not me on my Vegas losses?

  • Posted By: dvclemons @ 09/28/2008 5:23:36 PM

    The bail out is bull ***. Give the money to the american people and let them boost the economy. We are not responsible for their fall. Would they help us if we needed it? NO!!!!!

  • Posted By: yiautta04 @ 09/28/2008 4:47:46 PM

    The bail out is bull. Let the greedy bastards go belly up then we can all start over.

  • Posted By: yiautta04 @ 09/28/2008 4:46:09 PM

    The bail out is a bunch of bull. Let the greedy bastards go broke and then we can all start over.

  • Posted By: American6949 @ 09/28/2008 2:19:32 PM

    I wanna go and help protest too!!!! - oh, I forgot ... I'm broke, working for a living and cant afford the trip to New York. The poor and the middle class need to stand up and say what they need to say.

  • Posted By: S Scott @ 09/26/2008 12:24:52 PM

    The present economic crisis was caused by several factors. First, the banks were forced to give loans, to people who shouldn't have had them. Second, the greenies who are Democrat supporters, kept us from drilling and buildiing Nuclear plants and caused almost a trillion dollars a year to leave the country headed for foriegn oil barons. They in turn ivested that in US markets and when it was clear they could affect our markets, they started disinvesting. The Republicans have their hands in it as well, but a majority of the blame clearly lies with the Democrats.

    • Posted By: leftieinbaseball @ 09/26/2008 1:18:45 PM

      Forced? By whom? It's preposterous to suggest this is a Democratic crisis, and it's not directly a Republican crisis either. Republicans argue for deregulation, and one of the outcomes of that is investment banks start taking complicated risks with things like mortgages which they aren't able to back up. This crisis is the result of a new "way" of packaging and selling mortgages as investment vehicles. I would submit that the new way was most directly created by Gramm (I blew it, it's not Lindsey it's Phil) in the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act

      And interestingly, when looking that up I see he also had a role in allowing Enron to do it's thing:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gramm

      With friends like those...

      • Posted By: Terrell @ 09/26/2008 1:49:00 PM

        For an excellent prelude to the situation we are now in, read the following NYT (no less) article from 1999.

        http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

  • Posted By: chuckwalg @ 09/26/2008 1:12:33 PM

    SPARKIE,.....
    The whold trinity thiing IS A SHOW... it is PURE ENTERTAINMENT !!! IF Billy Graham or the Pope were to be greeted with open arms and embraced, that in itself does not alter what their 'theology' stands for !!! READ UP !!! ... and go have your cataracts removed. I would share a link of Black Liberaton Theology, but you should be able to search for that yourself...

    You manage to somehow never take into account your sources... look at the URL from your 60% economists support bo plan.... JUST KNOWING THE URL, I can tell you what slant they have.

  • Posted By: chuckwalg @ 09/26/2008 12:44:42 PM

    SPARKIE, .... if you think the media raked bo over the coals regarding wright and the BLACK LIBERATION THEOOOOOLOGY... then close your eyes, and imagine... you can take as long as you need to reach that point... and then in your right frontal lobe, replace bo with a David Duke if you want to true comparison, and if you want to soften the comparison in your favor, then just replace bo with a standing senator from the RIGHT side of the aisle.... not McCain because he is simply a rino... but let's select John Boehner... Now IMAGINE HOW MANY HOURS boehner or duke would have to gather all their belongings and be ESCORTED OUT OF THE hallowed halls of congress !??!?!?!? The Trinity Church... what a MISNOMER !!... out of CHICAAAAAAGO ... is nothing but a hate filled closet of bigots and prejudiced illiterates practing their rap moves !!!! ..truly sad !!!
    bo was given a FREEEEE RIDE in his 'disassociation' of wright and the hate filled cult he still harbors !!!

  • Posted By: chuckwalg @ 09/26/2008 12:30:58 PM

    LeftieInBaseball_and_ThoughtProcesses.....
    You mention that Lindsey G. was responsible for deregulation.... can you cite specifics ? Or was that an excerpt you pulled out of the NYT ?

    I will share an article with you... http://www.city-journal.org/html/10_1_the_trillion_dollar.html

    Another morsel.. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76234
    Sorry, I couldn't locate any articles on bo from the NYT.. I think they are busy implanting his name into their crossword puzzles so as to numb the populace with his muslim name. It is called indoctrination.

    And if you want to really get educated... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76170


    bo is a die-hard saul alinsky student !! Look at the people he surrounds himself with... ayers, wright, multitudes of nation of islam members and its leader !! bo claims he is Christian.. .. uh, yeah, right !! His mother traipsing around the world looking for any muslim she could get her hands on... and you expect anyone not aflicted by liberalism to believe that he was raised anything OTHER than what was recorded in his grammar school days...
    ALL TERRORISTS domestic and ABROAD are all lathered up about bo.. THEY all want him to be your next prez. THINK !! If it smells rancid, DON'T BITE IT !!!!

    LEFTIE, You wrote: Comment: chuckwalg, you really should check your facts. McCain was not present for more votes than any other senator in the 110th Congress, missing 412 votes, only making 231. Obama missed 295 while casting 348.

    Here is something to chew on... http://obama2.com/archives/tag/voting-record/
    bo is nothing, if not a LION in decision making !!! bo being called an Empty Suit is an insult to all clothiers !!


  • Posted By: chuckwalg @ 09/26/2008 11:40:47 AM

    Sparkly....
    Know thy sources... Newsweek, CNN... Hmmmmm... Let me think, Oh, YEAH... SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, and bo advocates, in-the-bag media... You forgot to source the New York Times !!

    But then you confuse me with ... Comment: Fignt Back Against the LIBERAL MEDIA!

    You seem to espouse liberal thoughts, and then you suggest FIGHTING AGAINST the LIBERAL MEDIA ??
    Liberalism is a serious MENTAL DISORDER.

    • Posted By: warrior26 @ 09/26/2008 12:10:30 PM

      Don't forget about MSNBC, NBC, The View, Charlie Gibson, CBS, ABC and all of the other mainstream media. The "Obama-Mania Media"

  • Posted By: leftieinbaseball @ 09/26/2008 11:18:40 AM

    chuckwalg, you really should check your facts. McCain was not present for more votes than any other senator in the 110th Congress, missing 412 votes, only making 231. Obama missed 295 while casting 348. And it's your party that's advocating socialism at the moment, taking over banks and insurance companies. It was your candidates chief economics adviser, Lindsey Graham who was most directly responsible for the deregulation that makes a real estate crisis take down major investment banks (instead of just taking down mortgage banks like it would have). I agree with you on one thing, it's amazing that 1/2 of America is blind enough to think McCain is fit for office.

    • Posted By: S Scott @ 09/26/2008 11:23:53 AM

      You're right, Mccain didn't vote present like Obama did 96 times to avoid getting on the record about tough issues.

      • Posted By: leftieinbaseball @ 09/26/2008 11:49:26 AM

        Ugh, I'm not sure you pass the Turing test. Obama voted present 129 times, or 3% of his total votes. So McCain *misses* 64% of his votes and we're arguing about 3% in the state senate? What's amazing to me is that there's no question you're going to be worse off with McCain (that's assuming Palin doesn't make it in, which is pretty much a ticket to second world status), and yet here you are wishing for your own demise.

        http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

  • Posted By: warrior26 @ 09/26/2008 11:39:04 AM

    If socialist beliefs are what you want, then Obama is your man. Since the media is so deeply in Obama's pocket, the uninformed will vote for Obama since the media does not report on the things that "smell" about Obama - Where is the birth certificate, his medical records, his income statements, his reports from ACORN, why he is still friends with Ayres, Resko, Raines, Pfleger, Wright and Johnson. Why was he voted the most liberal senator in the Senate? Why does he want to tax small businesses? Sounds like a guy that I want to lead our country!!

  • Posted By: Tygonwu @ 09/26/2008 10:41:32 AM

    The Republicans have pushed deregulation on us for years, guess what it doesn't work. Years back,monopoly was a dirty word. when a small bank or business failed,another competitor moved in. Nowadays, a business tanks ans tens of thousands of people lose everything-jobs,pensions,houses,etc.This is the economy that the Republicans want us to invest our retirement into, Ithink not.market so volitale

    • Posted By: Ehood @ 09/26/2008 11:38:10 AM

      When are you Liberal dems going to grow a brain and not look at everything that happens as being Republicians fault? If you were so darn smart, you would know that Bill Clinton sigmed the bill that repealed the regulation that controls the Banks. Its calleg the Glass -Steagall act of 1933.!

    • Posted By: keepUSAfree @ 09/26/2008 11:35:51 AM

      This is not a derregulation issue. If anything, the regulation enabled the problem. This debacle is partially created by enacting laws on the books to be more "fair" to minorities and lower income perspective home buyers by forcing lenders to take on a percentage of risky loans to people with bad credit or an unrealistic ability to pay. Other times, people just buy more house than they can afford. A large percentage of the home is financed (over 90%). Often times, these are adjustable rate mortgages with increasing rates that can be refinaced as long as the value of the home increases, expanding the time period of the mortgage, thus lowering the monthly payment. When the value of a home drops, the homeowner owes more than the house is worth, cannot refinance and cannot, thus loses the home. Add to that the inherent accounting fraud that accompanies most government financed agencies, and you get a big mess. I'm oversimplifying Economics 101.

      One suggestion: Put the Kool Aid down, and research who initiated the 2006 legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the see who blocked it.

  • Posted By: KWinSC @ 09/26/2008 11:34:52 AM

    I don't think he has said anything that is going to be differnt than what we have now. If McCain thinks he is going to veto every bill that has some appropriation on it he is in real denial.

  • Posted By: KWinSC @ 09/26/2008 11:28:42 AM

    Warrior and Sparkly McCain was the darling of the press for the last twenty years! That man is the ultimate politician. He loves it.But when you start lying and changing your core beliefs to win an election the media generally calls you on it.
    I don't believe Obama is perfect. I don't believe McCain is terrible. I do believe McCain has said nothing to s

  • Posted By: S Scott @ 09/26/2008 11:27:35 AM

    And Obama could end the lawsuit over his Birth Certifcate by producing a certifed copy of it. Instead his lawyers try to get it thrown out by saying the court has no jurisdiction. Why won't he produce it? Could it be because he was born in Kenya and is ineligible to run for President.? Produce a certified copy to the court and the suit goes away.

  • Posted By: warrior26 @ 09/26/2008 11:27:32 AM

    Hey KW and all the lefties - Obama may be a great guy to have a beer with or even to organize something in our community, but the question still remains: What executive positions and/or executive decisions has he ever made? What type of decision maker is he in picking the "gaffe-master" Joe Biden? Joe Biden would only be a heart beat away from becoming president....Now that's a scary thought! Maybe he can get Franklin Raines to be the Treasury Secretary, or head up the Commerce Department, maybe Resko can be the Housing Secretary, and Reverend Wright can be his press Secretary. Now those are some people that I want to help lead this country. What do they say, "You can tell a lot about a person by who he surrounds himself with"? He may give good speeches, but take away his teleprompter and he is a stammering fool. He even needed his teleprompter to give a speech at a rodeo last week. I can't wait for the debates to watch him stammer to try and figure out what the best thing is to say, forgetting his positions. He is a dumpster fire waiting to happen, McCain has the experience, the courage and the right people surrounding him to make a great President.

  • Posted By: Beaver1 @ 09/26/2008 11:25:20 AM

    HOW DO YOU HE'S NOT THE ANTI-CHRIST
    ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE HE FITS THE MOLD.
    ANYWAY IF YOUR messiah the lord obama wins you won't have to worry about us much longer.

  • Posted By: Chelley @ 10/31/2007 8:18:49 PM

    I'm not sure why we're in Iraq. I know a lot of people that signed up when we declared an attack on Ira because they, like many of us, were conviced by our own government there was a link to 9/11, which it turned out there nver WAS a link.
    Oil seems like too obvious an explination to be entirely accurate. It was probably a contributing motive, but there's more to it. Things that aren't as obvious. One day we'll finally be told what those reasons were, but by then we'll be responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS of people. Some of them our own, most of them civilians elsewhere while our own civilians are mostly safe at home, far from the sounds of bombing and shooting.
    I hope when the true reasons for our being there come out, we'll feel it was actually worth it.

    • Posted By: kalamere @ 09/26/2008 11:24:43 AM

      In 1991 Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi Army invaded Kuwait. Our army defeated their in 100 hours. Fromm 1991 to 2003 17 resolutions were brought by the UN security council to have Saddam give up his production of nuclear material and stop thretening his neighbors. There were two no fly zones to keep the Iraqi army from invading it's neigbors. He violated that as well. Sanctions were brought by UN, but UN officials were taking money under the table for oil contracts and supplying Saddam with whatever he wanted in shipments marked as food or medical supplies. When he refused to let the UN inspectors in the country, he upped the ante and after 9/11 the Security Council UNANIMOUSLY agreed to force against Iraq, No there were no WMD's but Iraq was a safe harbor for terrorists who wanted to attack our country.
      Iran sent in people to keep the terrorism going to try to create a civil war and defeat the US and allies.
      It prolonged the war but General Petreus came up with an new strategy called the surge which has been successful and yesterday the Iraqis set up an election for this January. The Sunnis and the Shiites and the Kurds are working together and now the atrocities commited by Saddam are over.

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