Edison’s Dimming Bulbs

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  • Posted By: busymom @ 10/17/2007 8:35:24 PM

    I thank the people that had lovely comments for me, but they negleted to read clearly that I have the stupid cfl bulbs and i still hate them. Also I would like to make clear that I do not shop at walmart I don't even have a walmart in my town. I actually think that walmart is an awful company that treat their people badly. Just so the oohhh have to save the earth people know I compost have mulipul huge gardens I can my food so that i can have it in the winter along with dehydrating it. I don't drive an suv i live in a town of 250 people i don't need an suv. I actually do keep my energy consomption down by opening the windows and I don't run the t.v. 24 hours. we watch as little as possable. And... I don't believe that changing a light bulb will change the "global warming" situation any how. My husband hates them too. He doesn't shop at watmart eather.

  • Posted By: ciril @ 10/17/2007 6:36:19 PM

    He DrBob, You can get some that look like regular bulbs. I bought some for my bathrooms. They encase the curved tube in a glass bulb.

  • Posted By: gyroflier @ 10/16/2007 10:33:21 PM

    There is a much more serious problem coming after they get us all to use flourscents and then we have to dispose them they aren't allowed in the trash waste when hundred of million a day are being dump in about a year or so watch the cry go up then "what are we going to do with they dont want them in the trash"

    • Posted By: DaughterInPA @ 10/17/2007 5:41:51 PM

      I agree that they should not be placed in the trash. However, computers, batteries, cell phones, and monitors are continually used and disposed of. Our area has a household hazardous waste dropoff twice a year. When we need to dispose of those items we place them in a container and take the container to them when the dates arrive. If you check the front of the telephone book or call your local government, you can find out if that is available in your area.

  • Posted By: DoctorBob48 @ 10/17/2007 5:18:32 PM

    You neglected the "wife factor" as a hindrance to their use. Simply put, they are ugly, and slow to reach their full brightness. Generally, therefore, CFL use is a guy thing, and will be so until they are redesigned to more fully resemble "regular" bulbs. If you don't believe me, ask your wife.

  • Posted By: ciril @ 10/17/2007 5:01:59 PM

    I bought some for all the lamps that will take them (they do not work with dimmer switches or three way lamps) and they put out plenty of light. Yes the cost a bit more up front but when you can get the light output of a 60 watt bulb in a 13 watt package that will last years longer than a traditional incandescent bulb, I'm sold.
    They save money in the long run and that's that.

    And busymom, try opening your blinds or curtains. You can get plenty of light from the sun too, you know.

  • Posted By: albgrl123 @ 10/17/2007 3:39:33 PM

    When will you understand that the government will have to intervene with the citizens cannot take responsibility for our own harmful actions? Before Edison's bulbs, there was CANDLELIGHT! A little sacrifice won't kill you.

  • Posted By: albgrl123 @ 10/17/2007 3:36:55 PM

    Listen, BUSYMOM, keep your energy consumption up with your regular light bulbs and mot likely gs-guzzling SUV, and there won't be an soil to worry about in however many years when it's time to throw these bulbs away. You can make a difference. The mercury in the bulbs is an issue if the bulbs break. It is not compared to lead paint- kids can accidentally ingest that. Who puts their mouth on a light bulb? Yeah, it is a free country- you can continue wasting energy and ruining the earth or you can change your light bulbs and stop complaining. I'm sure you shop at Wal-mart daily anyhow.

  • Posted By: jonsd @ 10/17/2007 3:30:32 PM

    @ BEARART. A question, if I may: Let's say you install 70 bulbs in a house. If they were all incandescent they would give off a lot of heat, let's say 40 watt of heat per bulb=2800 watt of heat energy into the house. I'm assuming the homes you build in Arizona will be cooled by air conditioning. All that heated air must be cooled, spending even more energy. So Is there improvement in the function or economy of the AC systems when you install CFL:S?

  • Posted By: tamparob @ 10/17/2007 10:19:13 AM

    I personally am as "Right" as they come and love these bulbs. I have replaced every bulb in my house with various watts of CFL's. I personally did it to save on my electeric bill. I'm not as grumpy when my kids leave on a light now. It did take a little while to get used to the warm-up time needed when you first turn on the lights. They start off a little dim. They don't appear to attract bugs that I noticed.

  • Posted By: busymom @ 10/17/2007 10:10:02 AM

    I'm a stay at home mom with 4 kids and we have some of these bulbs and they are the worst thing we have ever bought. The comment about if the kids turn on and off the lights often shortens the life of the bulb is true. the light output is terrable I cant stand it. Then theres the issue of the mercury I'm sorry but with a house full of kids I have begun to feel that they are not the safest thing to have around. You could actually compare them to led paint. But that was concerdered safe in its time too. and yes it reduces green house gasses but what about when all these bulbs start contaminating the soil after millions have been thrown away. Good now bad tomarrow. Has any one thought about the fact that the government and walmart are dictating to people what they can put into their own homes? Its not a free country any more its starting to become a society of big brother telling us how to live and what we can buy. I'm sorry but i will stick to my edison bulbs. because last time i checked this is the united states of america and some of the constitution still applies for now. When it becomes the Social states of america then , i guess, i will have to change bulbs.

  • Posted By: BEARART @ 10/17/2007 9:45:48 AM

    As a home builder in Arizona ,We install only CFL bulbs in all of our new homes.The average number of bulbs in a new home is around 70. Not a plug for Sam's Club, but thier pricedsare one half to one third the price of any other store including Wal Mart! If everyone in America would replace just five incandescent bulbs with CFL's it would reduce green house gasses equivilant to taking EIGHT MILLION CARS of the road, come on America it's as simple as changing a light bulb.

  • Posted By: sadams101 @ 10/17/2007 4:52:26 AM

    We've started converting to the new cfl bulbs here in south Africa and in fact the governmnet even has a programe through the electric utilities where-as one turns over their old style bulbs and receives the cfl replacmdent free. I find the new types to work better than the incandecent as to length of service and quality of the light given (less yellow,more whitish). And to asnswer one comment concerning the attraction of insects to these new type of bulbs; these are not the old style flourescents and if anything the cfl attracts less than the standard lights. More light with less glare and less cost; I'm sold.

  • Posted By: jay7268 @ 10/17/2007 12:10:07 AM

    Thomas Edison is probably rolling in his grave right now. These bulbs suck, the lighting is horrible they attract bugs like crazy. I will never in my life purchase another one of these bulbs. Thomas Edison gave us a great gift and there is no one who is going to tell me that I cannot use them anymore, period. That includes all of you wacked out Libs. Mind your own damn business and leave me and my light bulbs alone.

  • Posted By: gyroflier @ 10/16/2007 10:27:45 PM

    another problem of flourescents bulb they keep changing the setting of the TV, on-off sound up or down or change channels besides from an engineering point they never tell you that flourscents only have a fixed number of turn off and ons before it will quite whether it is brand new or old., If the kids turn the lights off and on that will shorten there life.

  • Posted By: J4000 @ 10/16/2007 8:47:25 PM

    ... "pulse-width-modulated"...

  • Posted By: J4000 @ 10/16/2007 8:42:52 PM

    Couple more considerations - These bulbs do not work in COLD environments well at all. Initial birghtness at freezing and below is about 30% and they take up to 2 minutes to come up to full brightness. For short usage times, they are not practical. Also, at today's pricing, the economics can never justify replacement of a bulb used perhaps an hour or two per year (example: attic lighting). THERE WILL ALWAYS be a place for incandescents, but it would appear that this will be another movement which gets carried away, and eventually incandescents will be ruled illegal. This has the potential to be yet another R-12 Freon type of regulatory disaster, wherein rather than letting the marketplace determine a natural obsolescence and slow product displacement, there will be some regulatory interference which introduces hoarding (and shortages) and price gouging. Perhaps a better investment than stocks right now would be a couple hundred thousand incandescent bulbs. Then again you can still get vacuum tubes in Russia, so perhaps they'll eventually take care of us isofar as incandescent bulb supply.

  • Posted By: J4000 @ 10/16/2007 8:32:04 PM

    When do I throw away all my dimmers? These bulbs DO NOT work on dimmed (pulse-width-modulated) circuits, and to my knowledge, nobody is addressing this issue.

    • Posted By: DaughterInPA @ 10/16/2007 8:40:48 PM

      They now have dimmable CFL bulbs. They are on Ebay and Online.

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