The Man Behind Blackwater

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  • Posted By: baronmind1 @ 10/15/2007 8:17:14 PM

    Blackwater is the new SS, a private military that answer to noone except the Dictator in charge, Bush. They are baby killers. They shoot unarmed women and children. Blackwater is Un-American, immoral, and illegal. These baby killers will be the new sociopaths, the serial killers in our society. they feel no remorse, compassion or empathy. They believe they are untouchable. They are a dictators perfect tool against democracy.

    • Posted By: kingpin @ 10/16/2007 12:10:22 PM

      Cindy Sheehan.How are you? You should get together with namvet there below.(the possum and have a marshmallow roast at the ranch

  • Posted By: cardtel @ 10/16/2007 11:59:51 AM

    With luck, this great country survived John Wayne with just a county airport in his name and that giant stature of him on a horse at Wilshire Blvd. But this modern day cowboy is a alot more dangerous; with a lot of fire power consisting of money, religious zeal and Dick Cheney's desire to privatize the military to create a giant pool of cash from which to steal. Call out the police to lock him up.

  • Posted By: ninnafaye @ 10/15/2007 3:58:36 PM

    blackwater is undoing any good the u.s. military may have done. they are a bunch of gun-toting mercenaries much like the faux cowboy who hired them. they are bullies who have no accountability to anyone. they,like their v.p. shoot first and never ask questions. everyone get out now before more innocent people are slaughtered,americans and iraqis.

    • Posted By: kwh13 @ 10/15/2007 6:02:54 PM

      Theyre not mercenaries - theyre security gaurds!!!!! Theyre not undoing what the US military has done they are exposing what the corrupt and ineffectual Iraqi government cannot curtail. We wouldnt even NEED security contractors over there if those pocket padding nincumpoops in the Iraqi government could do their job. The contractors are not bullies. If you think for a heartbeat that the guys that are DAILY trying to assasinate the US Ambassador to Iraq are showing up with rubber bands and spitwads then youve been reading a totally different account than I have and I would love to be privy to that story where the jihadists are playing nice like. Thats the ONLY reason they have to "tote" guns around. I also dont think that the president had anything to do with the assignment of security contracts. As a Platoon Sergeant in the Marines I dont tell my squad leaders who to send out on security, I just tell them to get out security, come back later and let me know that its done, and give me the list of who is on security so that I will have something intelligible when my boss asks me about security. Thats the way it works. Find something that cites that President Bush was personally responsible for assigning the contract to Blackwater and I'll eat my hat - no salt.

      • Posted By: sj62 @ 10/16/2007 10:29:39 AM

        Is that the new party line? That these overpaid cowboys are "security guards"? Look again, won't you? How many Joe-Blow security guards do you know pack as much heat that these guys do? Yes, the situation is dangerous, but who made it dangerous? Blackwater was hired long before the current Iraqi government came into being. Do you remember the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA)? If you do, do you remember who ran it? Was it Iraqis? No! It was wet-behind-the-ears Americans! And, doesn't it concern you that after fours years of all this that Baghdad is still not secure enough to cross the street without an armed escort? Blackwater and their ilk are not "security guards". They are guns-for-hire, aka mercenaries. As for Bush "personally" hiring these folks, don't be facetious. Of course, Bush doesn't personally hire anybody, but, as the person in charge, all responsibility falls on his shoulders. If he didn't do it, someone under him did, but the responsibility falls on him.. As a platoon sergeant, you ought to understand that.

  • Posted By: baronmind1 @ 10/15/2007 11:07:55 PM

    W. Sweeney. Are you bright enough to discuss the subject or are you limited to personal attacks? I am funny and I know what I'm talking about at the same time. You should try it. Do you have an opinion about Blackwater or just about me?

  • Posted By: c3227 @ 10/15/2007 3:39:53 PM

    This is one of the most anti-Semitic rags I have ever read. Is his religion the crime or the alleged killings in Baghdad? This rant is nothing more than trying to get people who hate religion to hate him even more.
    Further, what does Von Steuben have to do with mercenaries? Does the writer want to call Steuben, Lafayette, Rochambeau and Kosciuszko mercenaries? You can't make a parallel with colonial America where a large number of people were moving here to improve their lives, often to escape religious persecution. There are a lot of American soldiers fighting and dying at this very moment that are not Americans! Are they mercenaries? It sure as hell can???t be the pay. How about believing in defending our country and those who can???t defend themselves? You don???t believe that because you think these people are stupid and easily manipulated.

    Really! Who is the one being manipulated? Anyone who can???t see the hatred of Christianity in this bar napkin of a hit piece is the one being manipulated. You are only interested in yourselves and do not have the capability of thinking for yourselves and are easily persuaded to follow the conformity of your globalist, socialist ideology.

    What is wrong with this guy having religion anyway? It is his faith that guides him. I would rather have someone following their moral authority than any politician seeking votes or news rag trying to create the next hoodwinked controversy.

    • Posted By: bfranklin @ 10/15/2007 4:14:28 PM

      If you keep your religion out of the political discourse then your (or his) religion will never be a crime, but once you (or America) cross that line then yes freedom is replaced by dogma. Its was this failed Bush administration that opened the door to this Theocratic nightmare by courting the Religious Right and funding religious causes at the behest of the Religious Right. They don't speak for me and if have any love for freedom you will kick the Bible, the Tora and the Koran out of the White House, State House and City Hall forever or the Islamic Sectarian Hell you see in Iraq will be played out right here in America only it'll be among Fundamentalist Christians.

      • Posted By: kwh13 @ 10/15/2007 5:40:44 PM

        Once again - its "Freedom OF religion", not "Freedom FROM Religion"

        • Posted By: c3227 @ 10/15/2007 9:42:34 PM

          What in the world are you talking about? Have you been hiding under a rock since the religion of peace attacked unarmed Marines in Beret? Further, what does it have to do with Blackwater and the alleged killing of civilians? The only people that bring up religion are anti-Semites like you.

    • Posted By: kwh13 @ 10/15/2007 5:36:36 PM

      C3227: I agree with you wholeheartedly - I have said for years that the Constitution reads "Freedom OF Religion" not "Freedom FROM Religion" . I cannot stand nihilism. I sent my kid to a church based daycare when she was three. My ultra left friend asked me how I could be indoctrinating her into religion from such an impressionable age? I said - Sweetie - if my child growing up with good morals and an ethical mindset is the worst thing that ever happens to my child I will consider myself the most fortunate parent that has ever lived.

    • Posted By: lumberjack @ 10/15/2007 3:48:45 PM

      Well said.

  • Posted By: wingshooter @ 10/15/2007 9:21:13 PM

    For every innocent Iraqi shot by Blackwater, a thousand new insurgents are created. And if any of you had a chance to catch Prince's testimony before Congress, you'll realize that his admission that he's not as smart as his father, is, if anything, a massive understatement. No wonder the war's a mess. Obviously, we need to get rid of these Blackwater cowboys. Maybe we could send them all to Bush's ranch in Texas.

  • Posted By: scassi8 @ 10/15/2007 8:17:14 PM

    These people are just as they seem. The military has thoroughly trained a human machine to respond to
    any given situation. They know very little else when it comes to the national job market. They live for the
    rush of engaging in violent confrontations as often as possible. In a state of solitude with nothing to fill
    that hollowness, they desire more adrenaline rush. They have been briefed over and over about how above
    the rest of us they are and they believe in establishing this over powering image at every available
    opportunity. There is no doubt that (whatever name) their presence in any area could be an asset and
    could contribute to the control of almost any situation, but they also require some sort of control to avoid
    running amuck intimmidating those who try to live an every day life style.

  • Posted By: Sanityinaninsaneworld @ 10/15/2007 10:30:11 AM

    This is scarey, professional mercenaries, former soldiers of the US military, hired by self-righteous ego thumbing Conservatives.
    But then, not only Erik Prince, but the whole Bush Administration need to be held accountable in a world court for the crimes they have committed in Iraq

    • Posted By: kwh13 @ 10/15/2007 6:45:43 PM

      They are security gaurds, not mercenaries. They are not offensive in nature (in the tactical sense of the word) but defensive. Their objective is to protect the principle and break contact as soon as possible. A mercenaries job is to engage and maintain contact as long as possible thereby killing as many of the opposition as possible. Has everyone on this planet lost the ability to read between the lines?

    • Posted By: bombguy @ 10/15/2007 10:37:13 AM

      Lest we forget that America was founded and fought for by "mercenaries." Times have changed, yes, but one thing you have to consider is the fact that a lot of the Blackwater employees don't take the jobs just because they support Bush or his agenda. the guys taking the jobs are former military that got paid a pittance to risk their lives. The guys have either separated from the military or retired form the military and take the jobs because the risk vs. reward ratio is far better. Would you go to Iraq as a military member for an extra $150 a month or go for $150k a year? I know what I would choose if i wanted to stay in the same line of work.

  • Posted By: bfranklin @ 10/15/2007 12:13:31 PM

    A a son of a Military father who I am disgusted by this embrace of mercenary armies like Blackwater, Christianity did not found America, and Americas constitution is far more holy than anything in the Bible.

    It is time for millions of Americans who beleive in the rule of LAW as spelled out in our constitution to take back our government from these lunatic Theocons.

    BY LAW: Only Congress can raise and fund armies, the hiring of Blackwater by the state department is therefore unconstitutional treason.

    • Posted By: kwh13 @ 10/15/2007 2:26:45 PM

      Bfranklin:

      Whoa hoss. I dont know what kind of New York or California version of the constitution youve been reading but youre using big $100 words like theocons so I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume youre either well educated or well read. so I'm not going to mince my logic -
      Your reading teachers have done you a great disservice or your Social studies teachers have. If your reading teachers didnt teach you the difference between OF and FROM then shame on them. If your Social Studies teachers taught you the US Constitution reads "Freedom FROM religion" and not "Freedom OF religion" Then they have really done you a great disservice and you need to go down to your local JUCO and take you a class in Logic or Critical Thinking so that you can get back on track.
      2d - Do you consider the armed guard that drives your deposits from the bank to the depository "mercinaries" because thats all that Blackwater is - they are armed escorts for humans instead of bags of cash. Listen to what they say their job is - security. Nothing more thatn the renta cop at the local mall
      3d - The State Dept. is funded by Congress and has to account for all of its expenses line for line. Congress knew about and knows about Blackwater for the entire time they have been under contract. Dont let the members of congress who have a political advantage by poo pooing Blackwater fool you into believing they didnt know what was going on. The briefings that detail these things are not given to one party but not the other - Dont let members of congress try to pull the old "I didnt know what the speed limit was officer " routine with you. a. Ignorance is not a defense for a member of congress. b. IF they didnt know but everyone else did, do you really want that bozo representing you? (If he cant read his/her briefs of make their commitee meetings then they are not doing their job.)

      You got a lot to learn my firend - didnt your military father impart some of the knowlege of basic logic and common sense upon you?

      What do I know - I'm just an enlisted grunt.

      • Posted By: bfranklin @ 10/15/2007 4:04:50 PM

        Listen Amigo, I don't think its OK for political afiliation or religious afiliation to enter into WHO gets a government contract but that is EXACTLY what is going on here. This creates a feedback loop to create a permanent power structure. Friend, these folks have an AGENDA and this agenda was spelled out in unminced words by MANY in the administration including Karl Rove: A PERMANENT REPULICAN MAJORITY: Amigo that is not democracy that is demagogery. Money is their road to power and raiding the treasury is the best way to get it. WAKE UP.

        • Posted By: kwh13 @ 10/15/2007 5:10:35 PM

          I dont know where everyone keeps getting the conspiracy theory thing from Thees not a panel of all powerful men sitting in a dark room twisting their "snidley whiplash" mustaches, drinking scotch and laughing maniacly (Ok maybe they are drinking scotch) but it doesnt exist. Karl roves Permanant Republican Majority thing - sure - ask a Democrat if they wouldnt love to have and if they have a plan for implemneting a Permanat Democrat Majority - I promise you they have one! Agenda - sure there is!!! I wouldnt trust a politician who didnt have an agenda. thats what politics is about - and if you think that the Democrat politians dont have an agenda then youre sadly mistaken again. Believe me when I tell you that the State Department DID NOT start the security contract selection process by saying - Whos the most religious and politically connected security firm we can find to award this big contract to? It didnt happen. I'll promise you that. They said - who can support the requirements of this mission? They had three answers Blackwater, DynCorp, and Triple Canopy. Amazingly enough all three got similar contracts. Wheres the conspiracy to stay in power? I dont see it. If you want to make a lot of money right now, go find some old soldiers who still have a will to feel the adrenaline of a gunfight, put them in some body armor and some hardened Suburbans and tell the State Dept that you would like the opportunity to bid on a security contract. Maybe youll get it. Who knows? But if you dont have an agenda and you think you could do the job better than Blackwater with a more ethical and moral twist to it and NOT have an agenda I highly urge you to take up the challenge. Who knows you may be the next big thing with Donny Deutcshe!!

    • Posted By: onesawb @ 10/15/2007 12:59:51 PM

      You are doing waaaay to much crack, Make your Dad proud enlist today and do something about the situation you say you object to. It's time for all Americans to realise that this country requires more than talk from it's citizens, talk's cheap actions speak far louder.

  • Posted By: c3227 @ 10/15/2007 3:38:39 PM

    This is one of the most anti-Semitic rags I have ever read. Is his religion the crime or the alleged killings in Baghdad? This rant is nothing more than trying to get people who hate religion to hate him even more.
    Further, what does Von Steuben have to do with mercenaries? Does the writer want to call Steuben, Lafayette, Rochambeau and Kosciuszko mercenaries? You can't make a parallel with colonial America where a large number of people were moving here to improve their lives, often to escape religious persecution. There are a lot of American soldiers fighting and dying at this very moment that are not Americans! Are they mercenaries? It sure as hell can???t be the pay. How about believing in defending our country and those who can???t defend themselves? You don???t believe that because you think these people are stupid and easily manipulated.

    Really! Who is the one being manipulated? Anyone who can???t see the hatred of Christianity in this bar napkin of a hit piece is the one being manipulated. You are only interested in yourselves and do not have the capability of thinking for yourselves and are easily persuaded to follow the conformity of your globalist, socialist ideology.

    What is wrong with this guy having religion anyway? It is his faith that guides him. I would rather have someone following their moral authority than any politician seeking votes or news rag trying to create the next hoodwinked controversy.

  • Posted By: ayadbaban @ 10/15/2007 2:25:15 PM

    Blak water and their bunch are a bunch of murderers with a liscence to kill women and chilren, so says the good American Democratic system according to BUSH

    • Posted By: kwh13 @ 10/15/2007 3:14:52 PM

      Because your buddies in the jihad would never kill women and children would they ? - they have conducted a holy war for the past 50 years without one single woman or child being killed right? Oh yeah they only kill women and children when they have a liscence - I just forget who issued the liscence? Fill me in on the liscncing department for jihad - Ive got some complaints about oversight issues on who liscenced women and children killers. Some of the jihadists are killing men too. Their liscence is only for women and children and I want some accountability and I want it now!

      • Posted By: Bzajr3 @ 10/15/2007 3:19:23 PM

        YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: Wincener @ 10/15/2007 3:17:12 PM

    I am a pacific islander and war zone is a war zone. During the Secon World war most of the fight between the USA and Japan were fought on our small islands. A lot of civilians were innocent victims of the war. However, it was inevitable that the war was fought so that peace could be achieved. I congratulate the Black water for all they have done in carrying out their assigned duties, protecting diplomats in the war zone is one. The civilians that were hurt of killed could easily be counted as casualties of war.

  • Posted By: Bzajr3 @ 10/15/2007 3:17:06 PM

    Regardless of who, what and where and how Blackwater ended up in Iraq, they are there and at WAR. Why does everyone forget the fact that both Blackwater and the Military are AMERICANS. They have to defend themselves against a force that are not in a uniform and can not be identified as a civilian or combatant. It doesn't matter at this point whether or not Prince is a christian wacko or not. AMERICAN fathers, sons, mothers, daugters are in Iraq and regardless who put them there, we need to show our support. The military hired Blackwater and if they have to defend themselfs from "invisible bullets fired from invisible guns, that no one ever witnesses" so be it. It's always the same old story from all you bleeding heart morons. Like it or not, we are at WAR, people die, civilians die so AMERICANS can live. Get over it. Last time I cheked history, we killed a whole lot of German and Japanesse civilians. You didn't hear AMERICAN'S crying back then....did you? Oh, I forgot, your all going to say we aren't a war with Iraq, they didn't do anything, we shouldn't be there.....9/11, Hussain thats enough reason.

  • Posted By: american citizen @ 10/15/2007 2:09:11 PM

    Blackwater and the outsourcing of military functions is one of most frightening threats to democracy in America today. The question is accountability both legal and financial. What is missing from this discussion is Blackwaters involvement in post Katrina New Orleans: they were there on the ground: who authorized their deployment, who did they report to and what incentive did they have to due process for the American citizens they encountered. If we don't speak up now we will these blackshirted killers on our
    streets in the next national emergency, real or contrived. Are they a front for the corporate US shadow government? A CIA company?

    • Posted By: lumberjack @ 10/15/2007 3:16:43 PM

      I agree. And what about Area 51?! Aren't they involved in security there? What about the shuttle disaster? Weren't some dudes in black coveralls on the launch pad?! And they just keep on tote-ing my paw's cows away with those unmarked helicopters!!!

  • Posted By: kingpin @ 10/15/2007 1:27:50 PM

    I really like the "Enter Your Comment" posts by some of the geniuses out there. Most of you anti american posters seem to be operating with two digit IQ's, or English is not my first language. Take a bath,read a book, listen to Michael Savage ,not Fat Albert Gore, and God Bless Blackwater

    • Posted By: namvet6869 @ 10/15/2007 1:48:06 PM

      HEY PIG MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ A BOOK TAKE A BATH AND LISTEN TO THE TRUTHS INSTEAD OF GW CRONNIES BS U EVER SERVE CHICKEN LITTLE. NAM VET

      • Posted By: kingpin @ 10/15/2007 3:16:19 PM

        Wow, a name caller!!
        Let me guess. English is not your 1st language either. Think of something original trailer boy, and "git"
        back to me. You were a supply clerk, right? Ever carry an M79? How many teeth left?

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