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Not Really Feeling It

A new book tries to make sense of the gripping, grating psychodrama that is the Clintons' marriage.

By Jonathan Darman | NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Oct 22, 2007

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  • Posted By: Bruch @ 05/24/2008 10:24:59 AM

    Comment: I have always thought of Hillary as an egomaniac of the highest degree...power-hungry, greedy,do-anything, say-anything to achieve her desired results. She is a proven liar and rather pathetic in her attempts to promote herself as a champion of the middle class, white older women,under-educated population. What does she really know about being "middle class", she who has millions ijh her own right, and continues to benefit from taxes paid by citizens with Secret Service protection, paid staffm etc?

    I watched her down a shot of Crown Royal and wondered how effective she would be in the Muslim countries as the commander-in-chief of our nation. How could they possibly have any respect for her?
    Then she switches to beer and is proud of the fact that un-educated voters want her. Can that mean that because they ARE un-educated, they can't understand the power of politics and therefore can be swayed by her type of rhetoric? I saw a picture of some of her supporters with one holding a "coirrected" sign..having misspelled her name!

    I dread the day should she actually become our president.

  • Posted By: wendy-franklin @ 01/22/2008 3:54:32 PM

    Comment: Are the Clintons an actual married couple or a strategic political alliance with a white-knuckled grip on power? The American public certainly views them as the latter. Nobody thinks it is a coincidence that their staying together increased Hillary's viability in her White House bid. It is laughable that Hillary Clinton proudly trumpets family values. Didn't the Clintons forfeit those political points in the 90s amidst the soap opera of their own completely dysfunctional family's soap opera?

  • Posted By: Avianese2007 @ 10/19/2007 7:33:07 AM

    Comment: Sen. Clinton has her own mind despite being married to Bill Clinton. Anyone who still accomplished all that she has done despite all the marriage woes that hunted her days as a First Lady definitely counts as a very strong person for me. The Bush presidency has been all about the war on terrorism and has certainly neglected our own domestic policies especially healthcare and education. Clinton has a lot of things to clean up especially the US image abroad. I'd like to see her elected if that's possible in the future.

  • Posted By: Avianese2007 @ 10/19/2007 7:23:34 AM

    Comment: Sen. Clinton has her own mind despite being married to Bill Clinton. Anyone who still accomplished all that she has done despite all the marriage woes that hunted her days as a First Lady definitely counts as a very strong person for me. The Bush presidency has been all about the war on terrorism and has certainly neglected our own domestic policies especially healthcare and education. Clinton has a lot of things to clean up especially the US image abroad. I'd like to see her elected if that's possible in the future.

  • Posted By: jpre1 @ 10/18/2007 3:37:34 PM

    Comment: And how many times did Rudy G. cheat on his wife? Oh wait, which wife? Please, people. Give it a rest. The nation is going down the tubes because all the media serves up is fluff and drivel like this.

  • Posted By: morph @ 10/17/2007 4:28:29 PM

    Comment: Hillary Clinton--the Coattail candidate --cont'd-- Liabilities:
    Leadership - Can she effectively tackle the hard issues facing America? What is her track record under duress, with mostly UNpopular options? Can she lead? Can she build consensus? Can she, and especially, can she WIthout Bill, regain American stature and respect in the world.
    Judgement - Can she/will she end the Iraq nightmare, and pursue a more nuanced and better reasoned course in the Middle East? Or will she keep one foot loyal to her hawkish, New York/contributor base, and the other trying to appease the New Democrats for Diplomacy, and end up giving us Eight more years of Bush-Cheney lite?
    Courage - Domestically- Does she have the will or the leadership skills needed to make the hard decisions and build an effective, move forward consensus regarding Social Security, Homeland Security, Immigration, Health Care and Education--not to mention the looming economic, employment and deficit spending legacy of the Bush-Cheney disaster. Even if she Talks the Talk, can she/will she Walk the Walk--with or without Bill at her side?

    The main thing we know is that if she is nominated and somehow moves on to become President, her first four years will be spent equivocating and posturing to get herself re-elected in 2012. I seriously question whether American can wait that long for New Leadership; for a break from the special interests/power elite politics that is turning this country into a Bush/Clinton oligarchy rather than a truly representative democratic republic.

    And finally, speaking of oligarchy, let's think for a moment about what Hillary in the White House might reveal about our precarious democracy. Given the growing influence of money and media-consolidation on electoral politics and government, and the power of branding and name recognition and media elites and other Insider advantages, do we really want to stay on this path of electing same-name offspring and spouses to the most powerful political office on this earth. Have we become so lazy, and so insular about our own welfare, that we're ready to sacrifice our sacred duty as voters, and turn over the keys to the White House to Brand Names with the highest and most calculating and self-absorbed bidder.

    Perhaps, the real question we should be asking ourselves is who, among all the candidates, could and would do
    the right things for America. Who has the courage and judgement and the raw energy to cut through all the special interest harpies, and lead us back to our roots in Dephi democracy. Who can be counted upon to secure the greatest good for the greatest number. Who do you trust to Do the Right Things for America as a whole, and not just pander to special interest groups. Who indeed! I don't know about you, but I'm still shopping. Wishing and hoping, but not holding my breathe.

  • Posted By: morph @ 10/17/2007 4:13:04 PM

    Comment: Hillary Clinton--the Coattail candidate.

    No executive experience. No real world, common sense experience.
    No self-made experience. In fact, she's lived in a political bubble her whole adult life,
    and has No experience outside politics.

    She and her Secret Service- protected husband only became homeowners--
    certainly one of the most American rights of passage-- AFTER they left the White House
    and started raking in book deal millions.

    She is bright. She is a hard worker.
    She has drastically improved her physical appearance
    since entering public life. After years in the whack-a-mole, spot lit shadow of Bill Clinton, she
    is indeed toughened, extremely articulate and well-versed, and has demonstrated remarkable focus and resilience.
    She has magnificently played every part to advance her own ambitions.

    Yet, the question remains, not counting the Vogue cover and Chelsea, what has Hilary done for America?
    And, more pointedly, what has she done ON HER OWN, without the quill of carrots and sticks
    provided by her omnipresent husband?

    She probably could have achieved a lot ON HER OWN, but we'll never know. She chose to bank her own political career on her husband's coattails. Each of her placements since she went to Arkansas were made possible by the
    personal and position power of husband Bill.
    Without the Wizard of Oz behind her, just how loyal would all those FOBs be?
    How many Hillary supporters are there because they are either awestruck or hedging or power suck-ups?
    How many of the media, money and power elite, who take it upon themselves to coronate American leaders,
    would be there for her and her alone? Not to be morbid, but
    if something should happen to Bill between now and election day, what would happen to her numbers.
    How many of her supporters are counting on getting Two for One at the ballot box?

    The experience she does have--as a political wife and Freshman legislator--
    is in fact meager, as both these situations were enabled by her
    marriage to President Clinton. Do you really think Rose, or any other Power Law Firm in a southern city in the 80's would have hired a woman or an outsider If she were not married to the Governor?

    Also, let us not forget, she is extremely CALCULATING.
    How else does one so successfully go from zero to eighty on the political ladder without passing GO.

    So, let's get off Hillary's illusory Runaway train to the presidency and take a hard look at her actual balance sheet.

    Perceived Assets:
    -She can win the general election. Maybe Not, given her high negatives and her penchant to over-step.
    Without Bill at her side-- No Way!
    -She's experienced. Experienced at what--being a fly on the wall of history; being a self-promoting opportunist? triangulating? (You support Lamont, I'll back Leiberman.) Underneath the sartorial facade, is she just another conniving, political porcupine--more like Richard Nixon, than Franklin Roosevelt. Rubbing people the wrong way, counting on Smooth-talking, fence-mending Bil

  • Posted By: morph @ 10/17/2007 4:11:59 PM

    Comment: Hillary Clinton--the Coattail candidate.

    No executive experience. No real world, common sense experience.
    No self-made experience. In fact, she's lived in a political bibble her whole adult life,
    and has No experience outside politics.

    She and her Secret Service- protected husband only became homeowners--
    certainly one of the most American rights of passage-- AFTER they left the White House
    and started raking in book deal millions.

    She is bright. She is a hard worker.
    She has drastically improved her physical appearance
    since entering public life. After years in the whack-a-mole, spot lit shadow of Bill Clinton, she
    is indeed toughened, extremely articulate and well-versed, and has demonstrated remarkable focus and resilience.
    She has magnificently played every part to advance her own ambitions.

    Yet, the question remains, not counting the Vogue cover and Chelsea, what has Hilary done for America?
    And, more pointedly, what has she done ON HER OWN, without the quill of carrots and sticks
    provided by her omnipresent husband?

    She probably could have achieved a lot ON HER OWN, but we'll never know. She chose to bank her own political career on her husband's coattails. Each of her placements since she went to Arkansas were made possible by the
    personal and position power of husband Bill.
    Without the Wizard of Oz behind her, just how loyal would all those FOBs be?
    How many Hillary supporters are there because they are either awestruck or hedging or power suck-ups?
    How many of the media, money and power elite, who take it upon themselves to coronate American leaders,
    would be there for her and her alone? Not to be morbid, but
    if something should happen to Bill between now and election day, what would happen to her numbers.
    How many of her supporters are counting on getting Two for One at the ballot box?

    The experience she does have--as a political wife and Freshman legislator--
    is in fact meager, as both these situations were enabled by her
    marriage to President Clinton. Do you really think Rose, or any other Power Law Firm in a southern city in the 80's would have hired a woman or an outsider If she were not married to the Governor?

    Also, let us not forget, she is extremely CALCULATING.
    How else does one so successfully go from zero to eighty on the political ladder without passing GO.

    So, let's get off Hillary's illusory Runaway train to the presidency and take a hard look at her actual balance sheet.

    Perceived Assets:
    -She can win the general election. Maybe Not, given her high negatives and her penchant to over-step.
    Without Bill at her side-- No Way!
    -She's experienced. Experienced at what--being a fly on the wall of history; being a self-promoting opportunist? triangulating? (You support Lamont, I'll back Leiberman.) Underneath the sartorial facade, is she just another conniving, political porcupine--more like Richard Nixon, than Franklin Roosevelt. Rubbing people the wrong way, counting on Smooth-talking, fence-mending Bil

  • Posted By: pdb346 @ 10/17/2007 10:05:06 AM

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  • Posted By: Mexicanos para la Mujer @ 10/17/2007 10:00:54 AM

    Comment: There always got to be haters out there. Clinton is a very strong woman. Stronger than any of her male opponents - democrats or republicans. Some are threatened with her toughness and intelligence. This woman will bring back to our country what has been lost. I agree with lindacousin. I wouldn't be suprised if most of the negative comments are coming from men who are threatened. Focus on improving yourselves.

  • Posted By: Mexicanos para la Mujer @ 10/17/2007 9:53:25 AM

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  • Posted By: America1st @ 10/17/2007 3:34:43 AM

    Comment: Not enough carpetmunchers to vote her in, sorry monica wannabees....

  • Posted By: America1st @ 10/17/2007 2:58:29 AM

    Comment: hillary rodham clinton is the most opportunistic, narcissistic, sociopath alive today. This ever calculating "robot" will never make it to the White House. Facts are: There simply aren't enough angry carpetmunchers to vote her in... Sorry

  • Posted By: rail60 @ 10/16/2007 11:54:17 PM

    Comment: In the 2000 Presidential election the Republican Party had the opportunity to elect a true American hero, John McCain. Instead they gave a former Connecticut prep school cheerleader with a low IQ and no credible experience for the job. If you look at Dubya's resume, he has been a failure or has done poorly at everything he's attempted, including his current job. And if Hillary becomes President it will in part be due to America's disgust with the current President.

  • Posted By: skd500 @ 10/16/2007 10:32:59 PM

    Comment: I am sorry, but I am not a Clinton supporter, I can't support people I don't think are genuine, and I cannot see them as genuine people. I cannot support a Patriot act that intervenes into the privacy of people's homes so that "Bill can get his fill", and I cannot support HIPAA compliancy that he signed into law which does the adverse that it is supposed to.

    It was supposed to help us, those at the bottom, with insurance, and allowing us to keep insurance as we move to a new employer, and it got rehashed and rewritten into something that protects the President and government at all costs to us as citizens.....I can't back that..........as an American citizen I feel taken, usurped, molested, and I hold President Clinton responsible, as well as President Bush because he signed this all into law........we should all be allowed to consent to the use of our bodies, and our papers, and minds. We should not be held under the threat of retaliation and loss of ability to earn a living if we object to how we are treated. The government, if it errs, has a responsibility to take responsibility for itself and stop using us as it's prey, its victim, and its entertainment and trying to make up fake allegations about people to cover for its own greed and need for power at our expense, I am not seeing anything different, and it is disappointing.....thank you for allowing my opinion.........Stephanie-skd500

  • Posted By: chuckufarley @ 10/16/2007 9:32:44 PM

    Comment: Hillary embodies the essense of hypocracy. She owes Tammy Wynette and apology.

  • Posted By: chuckufarley @ 10/16/2007 9:30:42 PM

    Comment: Stand by your Maaannn!!

  • Posted By: mayamouse @ 10/16/2007 9:19:33 PM

    Comment: It seems like everytime this presidential election comes up in conversation someone always asks me, "wouldn't you like to see a woman as president?" Being female myself there is an apparent expectation that I will respond affirmatively to this point and thus have to support Hillary. Well, yes in point od fact I would like to see a woman in the office, but with that said I don't know that Hillary is the one I would want. There has just always been something about her that has as just always bugged me on what I can only describe as an instinctive level and regardless of the issues which people seem to insist should be should be the focus I just can't trust Hillary when it goes against my intuition. From the little I read here, this could be an insightful read on what the origins of where the internal reservations I have about this candidate come from.

  • Posted By: jkl517 @ 10/16/2007 8:39:50 PM

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  • Posted By: Warren Ables @ 10/16/2007 8:39:33 PM

    Comment: Unfortunately we seek strong male leadership from men who deal with adversity and push forward like soldiers who learn to face tragedy and trudge on to the bitter end for a higher purpose, and yet we are critical of these same traits of character in a woman. Past presidents have dealt with turmoil in their marriage and in their families, and whether that turmoil included alcoholism or depression or a myriad of other problems that ordinary citizens deal with in their ordinary lives, the public generally regards the ability of a leader to cope with personal hardship while maintaining dignity and poise in the public eye a virtue and not a vice. People expect women to act and react emotionally, and the expectation is both illogical and stereotypical. Many women are strong and capable and are able to go on and accomplish those things which must be done even when the world is crumbling in around them. Hillary Clinton has shown that she has the constitution to overcome great obstacles without becoming irrational. People who are truly committed to public service necessarily have the ability to set their own needs behind a greater good. Rather than criticizing a leader for showing stoicism in the face of crisis, we should admire Clinton's ability to put the needs of her country above her own.

  • Posted By: jkl517 @ 10/16/2007 8:39:24 PM

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  • Posted By: alijune @ 10/16/2007 8:35:34 PM

    Comment: This article is so typical of mainstream media. Do Americans really need to be reassured that Hilary Clinton is not an emotional wreck? Is it really necessary to think of her as a masculine woman (unemotional and rational) in order to understand the concept of a woman, yes! a woman with political power?

  • Posted By: Jacira @ 10/16/2007 8:34:24 PM

    Comment: I'm an outsider looking in, I do admire Hillary Clinton, she's seem very strong almost the way men do things. Common people you cannot hate her for that, after all she's doing things the way men have done for centuries and it work for them...and its about time the US experience a female president...you'll need it with all the mess that was made around the world to clean up,
    Thank you.

  • Posted By: alijune @ 10/16/2007 8:33:02 PM

    Comment: This article is so typical of mainstream media. Does America really need to be reassured that Hilary Clinton is not an emotional wreck? Does the public really need to imagine her as unfeminine and perhaps like a man (unemotional and rational) in order to understand a woman in a position of politcal power?

  • Posted By: bill619 @ 10/16/2007 8:25:09 PM

    Comment: lindacousin...........you must be just stupid. insecure.....yes i would be insecure if she gets in the white house. everyone in the US will be more then insecure..... Everyday she changes her mind. During the debate she said I will not pull troops out before the end of her 1st term. The other day she said she would within 30 days. 2 days later she said within 60 days. DO YOU remember all the times as 1st lady when she would answer....."I DONT REMEMBER" and "

  • Posted By: chidebere2 @ 10/16/2007 8:23:00 PM

    Comment: Whatever happens in the election 2008 will be a great lesson to all of us. I think the war in Iraq is an eye opener and no joke at all or business as usual.Lives have been lost and sacrifized on the altar of politics and hunger for power.Hillary Clinton has no human heart.She thinks all is playing politics and seeking power. But she is wrong.Dead wrong. For not appologizing for her vote to go to war, am sorry she may be worse than George Bush. Barack Obama is straight and honest and is a better candidate for the Presidency.

    • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 8:26:04 PM

      Comment: Better than Clinton at least if he gets the ticket it would be better than her.

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 8:22:46 PM

    Comment: Lindacousin get a life and get real. You have no clue un less you been there done that and had the same relationship she di. EH not going to happen she wont make it.

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 8:20:57 PM

    Comment: Enough of the same old same old stuff. We might as well vote for Manson she is just as cold and hard hearted as he is . And so callous too. She gets in and we are done as a nation and leading country.

  • Posted By: bill619 @ 10/16/2007 8:20:30 PM

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  • Posted By: bill619 @ 10/16/2007 8:18:16 PM

    Comment: I can not understand anyone who would want hilary in the white house. She wants to control everyone by getting her health care. They will tell what you can and cant do. What you can have done even if you must
    have a surgery. FREE.....your taxes will sky rocket..... please people think !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: lindacousin @ 10/16/2007 8:17:32 PM

    Comment: I support Hillary all the way!!! To you all insecure men or people who writes and say negatives about her, I say "You are threatened with her toughness and intelligence" You should work on improving yourselves.

    • Posted By: America1st @ 10/17/2007 2:47:45 AM

      Comment: The most opportunistic, narcissistic, sociopath alive today. This ever calculating "robot" will never make it to the White House

  • Posted By: bill619 @ 10/16/2007 8:15:32 PM

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  • Posted By: Warren Ables @ 10/16/2007 8:15:19 PM

    Comment: It is ridiculous to call Hillary Clinton's reaction to the Monica Lewinsky scandal denial. I gathered little from this article beyond the author's obvious belief that private actions within the bounds of a marriage are a reflection of how they will lead their public life in a role of leadership. Whether or not you choose to believe that Guiliani's adoration in the wake of 9/11was born out of his rhetoric or his actions, the author's obvious inference is that Clinton's own worth as a politician can only be judged by her actions in a crisis. Rather than choosing to address her role as a sitting Senator for the state most affected by the attack, or her leadership among Democrats in their efforts to bring our troops home, both crises to be sure, the author uses her stoicism and dignity in the face of a very public scandal as a point of criticism. The author chooses to attack her for her staying with someone he so obviously despises and in doing so reveals the only bullet that those critical of the Clintons have in their "gun", the Lewinsky scandal. Hillary Clinton's propensity to react with reason, and not rhetoric or gut instinct, is the exact kind of characteristic we need in the face of the threat of global terrorism as well planned responses to crisis will undoubtedly trump emotionally charged reactionary bluster every time.

  • Posted By: ry2d2 @ 10/16/2007 8:14:06 PM

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  • Posted By: lindacousin @ 10/16/2007 8:13:49 PM

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  • Posted By: chidebere2 @ 10/16/2007 8:12:01 PM

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  • Posted By: ry2d2 @ 10/16/2007 8:09:36 PM

    Comment: well said! you tv references are rediculous and useless. You my friend has lowered the bar, I thank you for making me all the dumber.

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 8:09:20 PM

    Comment: so this time she can use the cigar borrow one from her husband eh. We need to get her out and gone and him and focus on the country. We need a john doe to run someone unknown. Thats it thats all i can guess we really need someone not corrupted yet by the power and the money.

  • Posted By: upsilon @ 10/16/2007 8:09:15 PM

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  • Posted By: jillverizon @ 10/16/2007 8:06:55 PM

    Comment: This is OLD NEWS......who cares what happens in their marrage. LET'S DISCUSS REAL ISSUES like terrorism, immigration, homeland security, employment, international trading, welfare, social security, healthcare. Come on people, don't give in to the dirty secrets. Lots of people have their own idenities separate from their marriage. Educate yourselves and make educated decisions.

  • Posted By: upsilon @ 10/16/2007 8:06:51 PM

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  • Posted By: ucrsue @ 10/16/2007 8:05:45 PM

    Comment: I'm sorry, but I like "Three Stooges/M*A*S*H/Two and a Half Men/Keith Olbermann," so I have to go with this: really "troop supporter," the "right to bare arms?" Not the arms I see at work! Leave them covered up! All that flab dangling . . . don't these women bowl? At least one arm would be firm. However, surprise, surprise, many Dems (of which I'm one), do believe in the Second Amendment. Again, I'm sorry, but I just had to go for the "pull my finger" joke.

    • Posted By: troop supporter @ 10/16/2007 8:29:57 PM

      Comment: ucrsue I'm sorry too you don't have a color TV. For the pull my finger joke, you should be a comedian on TV, so I can turn you off.

      • Posted By: ucrsue @ 11/12/2008 4:55:58 PM

        Comment: My uncles and aunts, my grandfather and grandmother are buried in Nat Cemetaries. Dad has a Bronze Star. Grandpa was gassed during WWI. My Uncle Chuck is buried at a National Cementary somewhere up in upstate Oregon along with Aunt Maureen. Dad was in WWII, Korea and VN. Our family went all over the States and the world as he was a USAF officer. Was it fun? Sometimes. But I remember to troopsupporter: My father and mother are in the Riverside National Cemetary, along with my Uncle Cal and Aunt Clare, and when his only sister sent a telegram to Mom while Dad was in VN and Mom's first thought was he'd been killed. My Uncle Dick will also go to a National Cemetary when he goes. My old "vaudville jokes" might seem stupid to you, but when I was 10 in Frankfurt, Germany, in 1965, that's the already 20 some year old radio shows we got on Airmed Forces Networks. Stars and Stripes was our only newspaper. We had no real clue as young pre-teens/teenagers of what was happening in the U.S. in the mid-60s. We were already worrying about our dads having to go to VN, but we didn't know why. I do remember reading the Stars and Stripes and the long, damn discussion about the "shape of the table" that the North VN argued about.. My partner's father was a flame thrower on Tarawa. Her uncle was a prisoner in Germany. We had a family friend that would never leave his house without a couple of pieces of bread in his pocket, in case. A girl in high school lost her dad, as a pilot, over VN in 1965. They've never found him. Yes, my family also fought in the Rev War and the Civ War. I don't think my patriotism needs to be questioned anymore. I wear my dad's USAAF Bombiader ring every day. I drive back to SoCal and stop at the Riverside National Cemetary every time. But, I believe we had no business in Iraq. They had nothing to do with 9/11. Were they an awful government? Of course. But, I don't see us invading N Korea or Cuba, 90 miles off our coast. We should have put the 150+ troops in Afganistan and gotten that rat bastard Bin Laden. I suspect, however, he's dead. P.S. I used to work for an insurance company that services the military community. Some younger coworkers have been redeployed for their second and third times. My jokes are old-fashioned, because I didn't hear "new"stuff in the 60s. I listened to Armed Forces Radio shows that were from the 30s and 40s. Still, pull my finger makes me giggle and I do like Beavis and Butthead and "Two and a Half Men." But my male relatives and our families have sacrificed. I went to a junior high in Frankfurt on Anne Frank Strasse that had a bomb scare, evacuating all of us, in 1967. The interesting part was watching and listening to the black classmates, girls, that were sitting in a circle listening and singing along with a little record player to The Supremes. "Stop, In the Name of Love . . ." I wouldn't trade those 40 year old memories.

  • Posted By: jillverizon @ 10/16/2007 8:04:54 PM

    Comment: This is OLD NEWS......who cares what happens in their marrage. LET'S DISCUSS REAL ISSUES like terrorism, immigration, homeland security, employment, international trading, welfare, social security, healthcare. Come on people, don't give in to the dirty secrets. Lots of people have their own idenities separate from their marriage. Educate yourselves and make educated decisions.

  • Posted By: ry2d2 @ 10/16/2007 8:04:45 PM

    Comment: Yes lots of CIA agents talk to d-gabs like you!

  • Posted By: ddansby @ 10/16/2007 8:01:58 PM

    Comment: A former CIA agent told me, when Clinton was in the White House, the Hilary was gay. That ALL of the CIA knew that her "Secretary" was her lover. Secretary is a direct related to the word "secret". Remember, she brought her from AK. So why was Clinton fooling around? Hello!!!...that was their arrangement. Why has that NOT been disclosed. It is common Knowledge in DC.

    • Posted By: mari2JJ @ 11/14/2007 11:40:40 PM

      Comment: That is a lie right out of hell. If any CIA mentioned anything like that they would be fired immediately. Try arguing on the merits instead of introducing some nut comment some supposed CIA person blabbed to you. They would be fired if they did that!!!!

      • Posted By: mari2JJ @ 11/14/2007 11:45:06 PM

        Comment: In fact I am cutting and pasting this tripe to send to the CIA.

  • Posted By: darwinfrog @ 10/16/2007 8:01:52 PM

    Comment: I can't wait for the great experiment to begin...the Hillary and Bill years...all presidencies are experiments. You know the presidency is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get.. an philanderer or an idiot from Texas, peace or war, so why not. It has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. These are just empty words use to place us all in categories. It has everything to do with humanism, something most all politicians and the corporate giants forgot long ago. So.. since this is an experiment... go Hillary and Bill, if nothing else they at least have experience, and if the wheels of justice work ( do they?) then there will be checks and balances to mellow it all out.. ( yeah right, they sure worked for Georgie boy and homeboy 'shootemup Cheney. No really how much worse could it get......

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 8:01:20 PM

    Comment: You do have to learn to be a leader and run a country not from unemotion but ferom emotions and heart and soul and from the senate that supports you in all you do. If it is the best interest of the people and country not your own self goals as she has.

  • Posted By: ry2d2 @ 10/16/2007 7:59:43 PM

    Comment: This whole piece is propaganda. It's intended to look like a slam on Hilary but in fact it is meant to put some distance between her and the oldest sexist argument against a female president: "women are to emotional".

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:59:31 PM

    Comment: anyone remember the movie mr smith goes to washington. We dont need someone like the 2 people that sent smith to be a senator we need someone like that mr smith to go and be a great president that cares about others and the poor and not the special interest groups to get the dam built ot the hidden agendas run through. And that is JUST WHAT HILLARY wants.

  • Posted By: jakhans @ 10/16/2007 7:58:59 PM

    Comment: To "Just thinkin" -- i find it ironic that you beg us not to elect Clinton just because she's a woman, and yet you clearly see her only relevance in her role as a wife. you think the biggest crisis in any woman's life would of course have to center around her husband or kids. you compare a husband's infidelity to 9/11? that's insulting to women as a whole. I am personally comforted that there is someone running who will use logic and reason to guide decisions -- gender doesn't determine my decision, ability to lead and integrity do. Therefore, I support Clinton.

  • Posted By: darwinfrog @ 10/16/2007 7:56:45 PM

    Comment: Enter Your Comment

    • Posted By: darwinfrog @ 10/16/2007 8:06:07 PM

      Comment: Hillary and Bill, let the great social experiment begin!

  • Posted By: mussers @ 10/16/2007 7:55:51 PM

    Comment: The Clintons have been in the White House when Bill was in charge (In charge of what, I'm not sure). Hillary had her chance to "change the world". I pray (yes I said PRAY) that Hillary doesn't become president. We as a nation would be in a world of hurt. Hillary had her chance at being president of the country. She denied and "Stood by her husband" when the entire nation knew what he was up to. If she can't take care of her marriage and family how can we expect her to make anything but a mess of our country!

  • Posted By: seamusthedog @ 10/16/2007 7:52:21 PM

    Comment: Quoting troop supporter: "...Bush might not be that greatest, but he atleast he sticks to what he says...."

    Hahahaha .. now that's funny

  • Posted By: mussers @ 10/16/2007 7:52:04 PM

    Comment: Enter Your Comment

  • Posted By: mussers @ 10/16/2007 7:51:51 PM

    Comment: Enter Your Comment

  • Posted By: seamusthedog @ 10/16/2007 7:51:35 PM

    Comment: Quoting troop supporter: "...Bush might not be that greatest, but he atleast he sticks to what he says...."

    Hahahaha .. now that's funny

  • Posted By: foxcreek @ 10/16/2007 7:50:32 PM

    Comment: i support hillary all the way

  • Posted By: justthinkin @ 10/16/2007 7:49:42 PM

    Comment: Let us please not elect this woman as our President JUST TO MAKE A STATEMENT FOR WOMEN. I think it behooves all of us to look at the true character of a person, and what that person would do in a real crisis like another 9-ll (God forbid). If Hillary can hide her head in the sand or deny any wrongdoing on the part of her husband's extreme and blatant infidelity, what kind of response is she going to have when the nation faces a crisis? And it will happen......there are too many people out there who want to destroy us as a nation and a people.

    • Posted By: jakhans @ 10/16/2007 8:07:43 PM

      Comment: I find it ironic that you beg us not to elect a woman just BECAUSE she is a woman, and yet you seem to think Clinton's only relevance is as a wife and mother. Of COURSE the worst crisis in any woman's life must revolve around her husband, right? And you go on to compare a husband's infidelity to 9/11? So i assume we can predict your reaction to having your leg amputated by lobserving your reaction to a paper cut? your oblique analogy is an insult to woman and the country as a whole. I am very happy i have the choice of a leader who will let reason and logic - not petulance and foot-stomping - guide decisions. My choice is not based on gender, but on integrity , intelligence, and an ability to lead. And you can bet i will be voting for Clinton in '08.

  • Posted By: ucrsue @ 10/16/2007 7:49:19 PM

    Comment: To Coach77: I know this might sound crazy, but how about Kucinich/Ron Paul? They are the only two I trust, although I'm not politically aligned with either. But, they both are saying more truths than anyone else. What do you think?

    • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:53:25 PM

      Comment: I hear you but i was thinking more of a home grown farm boy that has had to work for everything he gets and not be born into the money. You know someone who has gotten their hands dirty helping others no matter what it may have been. Say joe farmer from kansas or wyoming.

  • Posted By: dicksmith24 @ 10/16/2007 7:49:07 PM

    Comment: She watched Bill pardon seriously questionable charcaters in his last day , while she made sure to steal anything not nailed down including the china. Is it any wonder she overlooks the moral flaws in her husband?

  • Posted By: foxcreek @ 10/16/2007 7:48:05 PM

    Comment: i support hilary all the way

  • Posted By: overfly @ 10/16/2007 7:46:49 PM

    Comment: The Clinton's are liars and thieves. They have no one's best interests at heart but their own. They are simply self serving ego-maniacs. It will be a sad commentary on the state of this nations electorate if she is elected into the most prestigious, powerful office in the world. I challenge all Hillary fans to look hard at the Clinton years in Arkansas. If you dig deep enough you will find years worth of money grabbing, lying, cheating and deceit and then you will see Hillary's absolutely true colors. God help us if she is given the power of the U.S. President.

    • Posted By: liz4946 @ 10/16/2007 8:12:46 PM

      Comment: God Bless America for surviving George Bush...if we can survive him we can survive anyone.

      • Posted By: mari2JJ @ 11/14/2007 11:42:08 PM

        Comment: Well, just take a poll and see who is the most hated national politician and it will not be either Hillary Clinton nor Bill Clinton, Nope, it is GW himself - - the most hated!!!!!!. I pray every day we elect Democratic President..

        a Godsend after this walking tornado we have now. Ao bring on the enough country left that some Democrat can straighten out the mess, any one of thos erunning would be a Gd

      • Posted By: mari2JJ @ 11/14/2007 11:32:48 PM

        Comment: Well, just take a poll and see who is the most hated national politician and it will not be either Hillary Clinton nor Bill Clinton, Nope, it is GW himself - - the most hated!!!!!!. I pray every day we elect Democratic President..

        a Godsend after this walking tornado we have now. Ao bring on the enough country left that some Democrat can straighten out the mess, any one of thos erunning would be a Gd

    • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:51:16 PM

      Comment: Amen to that thanks for showing some of these Hillary lovers the dark side of their favorite and they were caught and had to pay back some money and lost some files sure they lost them. They are cheats and cheated in office and will for sure do it aghain just like they accepted gifts in office and then had to give them back.

  • Posted By: troop supporter @ 10/16/2007 7:46:14 PM

    Comment: If Hillary gets elected you can say bye to low taxes. Health care and the right to bare arms. She was for the war, then against the war, and now she is not sure what to do. Keep the left wing nut balls out of the government office. You think gas prices are high now, pull out and see what happens! Bush might not be that greatest, but he atleast he sticks to what he says.

    • Posted By: jakhans @ 10/16/2007 8:12:10 PM

      Comment: Say "bye to low taxes"? When in the last 6 years have we been able to say "hello" to them? Your big government Republicans have taken care of that for us. Oh, I suppose that is being ungrateful for that $200 i got back four years ago. My apologies.
      As for the right to bare arms, i fully believe even "left wing nut" Hillary Clinton will not take away my right to wear a sleeveless blouse now and then.

    • Posted By: liz4946 @ 10/16/2007 8:09:59 PM

      Comment: George Bush is the most norrow-minded, superficial leader I have ever seen in this entire country. He is a disgrace and an insult to every American who walks on this soil. Since when did money and gas prices become more important than humanity?

  • Posted By: foxcreek @ 10/16/2007 7:46:07 PM

    Comment: Enter Your Comment

    • Posted By: foxcreek @ 10/16/2007 7:49:42 PM

      Comment: Enter Your Comment

  • Posted By: foxcreek @ 10/16/2007 7:44:59 PM

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  • Posted By: justthinkin @ 10/16/2007 7:42:37 PM

    Comment: We have watched this "Ice Queen" for many years and should by now realize what a real threat it would be to have her in the white house. She is unmoved by humanity and completely power centered and goal oriented toward obtaining the nation's highest office. That she would be considered a serious candidate for the nation's highest office says so much about how far we have fallen when our heros are either robotic , proverted, or criminals.

    • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:45:28 PM

      Comment: you got that right

      • Posted By: truthlover @ 10/16/2007 7:53:35 PM

        Comment: Well said justthinkin!!!

  • Posted By: Workhorse @ 10/16/2007 7:41:18 PM

    Comment: So, we can't talk about the color of the person, we can't talk about the raceof the person, but it is okay to talk about somebody being a male or a female (man or a woman). Come on, first of all, if each of us individually not let the thoughts of a person being a man or woman to make a judgment on their title and positin, then we have the right to talk about the qualifications. Most supporters of H. Clinton only mentions that she is a woman? Why is that? Do woman feel inferior? [Please don't say that is the world perceives, yada, yada. Each one of us constitute the world, and if we part of the world, no point in blaming others!]
    Also, leadership is about managing emotions, but definitely "Not Having emotions". If we want us to led by a person who has no emotions, why don't we all vote for an Android? It will be a better President, isn't it?
    Not having emotions, or too much of emotions, in English we refer to them as "Callous", and not kind [Yes, I know callous means "no feelings", but feelings come out of emotions. No emotions => No feelings!]
    At least my position is: I want to be led by a caring, intelligent, person with feelings and the person who depicts right level of emotions, not by a machine, or a faceless, feelingless, tyrannical ruler!
    We americans, care, care for our family and friends, care for our relationships, care for the world, and it has to be shown from the top of our leadership!

    • Posted By: liz4946 @ 10/16/2007 8:07:49 PM

      Comment: Just because Hillary Clinton does not demonstrate her every emotion to the world does not mean she lacks it. Do you honestly think when she found out her husband was having an affair she responded with no emotion. You have no idea what goes on behind closed doors...

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:40:07 PM

    Comment: The country IS NOT and WILL NOT be ready for a woman president anytime soon let her run and i will tell you the Republicans will take office again. Mondale made the mistake of a woman as his vp candidate and he lost so you want her go ahea d get her on the ballot and you will seal the white house for the next 4 years at least to the republicans

    • Posted By: lindacousin @ 10/16/2007 8:29:21 PM

      Comment: It's about time for a WOMAN to be president! If you are a very secure with your being a man then having a woman as president shouldn't bother you.

  • Posted By: liz4946 @ 10/16/2007 7:39:43 PM

    Comment: Last time I checked, becoming a President has a lot to do with power. Hillary Clinton's desire for power is not abnormal in any circumstances. I think that since she is a woman, this power should be especially granted to her.

    • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:43:25 PM

      Comment: Way off she doesnt deserve and sure hasnt earned it yet not by a long shot so get real

  • Posted By: egoist @ 10/16/2007 7:39:25 PM

    Comment: Her unwillingness to deal with infidelity in it's proper form shows just how much of a pigeon she really is, and will be if in the white house.
    If she can not do right by her husband, are we to believe she will do right by the United States? That was an unforgivable action on her husband's part, and she chose to ignore it for political gain. Whats next to ignore?

  • Posted By: egoist @ 10/16/2007 7:39:04 PM

    Comment: Her unwillingness to deal with infidelity in it's proper form shows just how much of a pigeon she really is, and will be if in the white house.
    If she can not do right by her husband, are we to believe she will do right by the United States? That was an unforgivable action on her husband's part, and she chose to ignore it for political gain. Whats next to ignore?

  • Posted By: Workhorse @ 10/16/2007 7:38:05 PM

    Comment: So, we can't talk about the color of the person, we can't talk about the raceof the person, but it is okay to talk about somebody being a male or a female (man or a woman). Come on, first of all, if each of us individually not let the thoughts of a person being a man or woman to make a judgment on their title and positin, then we have the right to talk about the qualifications. Most supporters of H. Clinton only mentions that she is a woman? Why is that? Do woman feel inferior? [Please don't say that is the world perceives, yada, yada. Each one of us constitute the world, and if we part of the world, no point in blaming others!]
    Also, leadership is about managing emotions, but definitely "Not Having emotions". If we want us to led by a person who has no emotions, why don't we all vote for an Android? It will be a better President, isn't it?
    Not having emotions, or too much of emotions, in English we refer to them as "Callous", and not kind [Yes, I know callous means "no feelings", but feelings come out of emotions. No emotions => No feelings!]
    At least my position is: I want to be led by a caring, intelligent, person with feelings and the person who depicts right level of emotions, not by a machine, or a faceless, feelingless, tyrannical ruler!
    We americans, care, care for our family and friends, care for our relationships, care for the world, and it has to be shown from the top of our leadership!

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:37:17 PM

    Comment: What about the person who would drive his own vehicle all across the country on his dime and no fund raisers and spend his time to try and get a country to back an unknown against the money and power of the 2 biggest parties. Isnt that why we fought for freedom to get away from tyranny that also comes with money and power. To give the power to the biggest bidder i think we have lost the idea of free elections and follow the biggest spender and who ever advertises and gets in front of the most people. Give me someone who really cares and who isnt in it for the motive of power or what they get from their certain interest groups.

  • Posted By: liz4946 @ 10/16/2007 7:37:06 PM

    Comment: I personally believe that experiences such as the one Hillary and Bill Clinton had only open the eyes to the world that even the most powerful people in the country have the same problems as everyone else. I think that since this is one of the first instances that the public saw of this, it can be hard to accept. Sometimes we think that famous people have a perfect life, not realizing that although they are famous, they still face everyday situations similar to ours. I give more power to Hillary Clinton to work through that during the situation she was facing at the time. I also give her even more credit to forgive--because although forgivness is not an easy thing, it is not a bad thing either. I commend her strength--no matter how she got through it, she did.

  • Posted By: abdiasmagdiel @ 10/16/2007 7:36:07 PM

    Comment: I think , Hillary Clinton can be a Great President of the United States of America, and she will make history, i'm very sure of that, and all people have problems in their marriage, She is like me, like you, Humans and she forgive Bill.

  • Posted By: jma154 @ 10/16/2007 7:34:08 PM

    Comment: Okay, I think I have now heard it all, someone else wrote since when did emotionalism become a political issue? I couldn't agree more. This is CRAZY, I can't believe how many of you have said she needs to go home and fix her marriage before she tries to take on the country... hmmmm okay well since over 50% over marriages fail these, I THINK SHE'S DOING PRETTY DAMN WELL!

  • Posted By: No.1 grandmother @ 10/16/2007 7:30:47 PM

    Comment: I could care less what Hillary does with her marriage. I felt sad for her and what she undoubtedly went through with Bill Clinton's adultery. However, if she wants to stay married, that's HER PROBLEM. But to PRETEND SHE IS HAPPY, IS PATHETIC and she isn't fooling anybody. Sadly, I don't believe a word she says. She is cold and shallow and has NO CREDIBILITY in my book. It will be a TRAGEDY for our country if she is our next president. I wouldn't vote for her if she were the ONLY ONE RUNNING. However, I will vote AGAINST HER - that's for sure!!!

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:30:26 PM

    Comment: What this country needs is a candidate that is a nobody from nowhere that looks at the country for what it is. For the people by the people not the rich or the middle class. But for all even the poor. Another president like lincoln or just some home grown country boy from nowhere who would look at all the aspects of what this country needs and get us back to the grass roots of freedom and democracy not who has the biggest war chest to win the vote. Give me a out of the way home town boy who just wants to see this country care for itself first then the rest of the world.

  • Posted By: vctonkins @ 10/16/2007 7:27:28 PM

    Comment: I am amazed at how people believe that a person can be one way in some parts of thier lives and another way in other areas. If Mrs. Clinton does not believe that emotions are important I would not trust her in the White House because if she has not emotions she will think twice to push things through that will hurt the majority of people in the United States. I feel sorry for someone that can so compartamentalize their lives that they can not be touched by emotions. I would not vote for this woman, she cannot be trusted.

  • Posted By: ucrsue @ 10/16/2007 7:26:20 PM

    Comment: I'm a middle-aged Democrat woman. I'll hold my nose, though, to vote for Hillary. Wish Bill could run again. Or Al . . . Hey, how about AZ governor Janet Napolitano? Why didn't McCain fight the South Carolina lies in 2000? Why wasn't John Kerry more effective in "swift boating" the "swift boat" attacks against him? Hillary is certainly smart enough and qualifed to be president. Doesn't mean I have to like voting for her.

  • Posted By: ucrsue @ 10/16/2007 7:25:59 PM

    Comment: I'm a middle-aged Democrat woman. I'll hold my nose, though, to vote for Hillary. Wish Bill could run again. Or Al . . . Hey, how about AZ governor Janet Napolitano? Why didn't McCain fight the South Carolina lies in 2000? Why wasn't John Kerry more effective in "swift boating" the "swift boat" attacks against him? Hillary is certainly smart enough and qualifed to be president. Doesn't mean I have to like voting for her.

  • Posted By: minia @ 10/16/2007 7:24:12 PM

    Comment: "IF" Hillary is elected it will be (1)Wonderful! to have a sensible {President that will look at America as one and start taking care of our own citizens(2)it will be sad that because she is a woman -the mess that she has to clean up after the Bush admin will be hard and challenging and everything she has to correct from Bush will be blamed on that she is a "woman"

    • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:26:42 PM

      Comment: Dont just blame Bush blame the democratic senate that back somethings and faltered when they didnt go where they wanted them to and said it was Bushes fault.

  • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:22:44 PM

    Comment: I rather see Condalessa Rice there before Hillary at least she show more character and openess to all.

  • Posted By: rail60 @ 10/16/2007 7:21:32 PM

    Comment: The sad thing is, we have a President that says things like "more better" and "misunderestimate".

  • Posted By: rail60 @ 10/16/2007 7:19:38 PM

    Comment: Enter Your Comment

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  • Posted By: donnellyandjake2@hotmail.com @ 10/16/2007 7:17:46 PM

    Comment: Balderdash!!!!! Are you stuck back in the Middle Age???? This is a thinking, strong woman whose direction this Country sorely needs. The men haven't done such a great job in the last 8 years.

    • Posted By: nyecop @ 10/16/2007 7:35:46 PM

      Comment: So if I understand your comment correctly, we should elect Hillary simply because she is a woman? We should pretend that her political track record is non-existant? We should look the other way when she votes for or against something and then denies doing so? I personally could not care less what gender our next president is, I simply hope that man or woman, they do a good job. Hillary's political track record does not suggest that she a person we can trust to run this country. It is too early yet for me to have decided as yet who I will cast my vote for, but it wil not be Hillary Clinton.

    • Posted By: coach77 @ 10/16/2007 7:24:49 PM

      Comment: Not when she is thinking of her own self purpose to be in office to get her own agenda done with out working it out in the senate.

  • Posted By: nyecop @ 10/16/2007 7:15:55 PM

    Comment: The sad thing is that "IF" Hillary is elected it will be (1) because she is a Democarat and (2) because she is a woman. People wil elect her for all the wrong reasons and fail to throw out the political parties and gender and elect the person (man or woman) who is best qualified for the job. Additionally, if she is elected she may very well ruin the chances of another qualified woman becoming President in the near future.

  • Posted By: wendiz @ 10/16/2007 7:15:39 PM

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  • Posted By: donnellyandjake2@hotmail.com @ 10/16/2007 7:15:20 PM

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  • Posted By: voter @ 10/16/2007 7:14:53 PM

    Comment: Why should Hillary pay for the lies her husband told? Would the country respect her more if she divorced Bill? Seems like no matter what Hillary does there will be someone to say she did it wrong. I believe that what this country needs is someone to get us out of the mess Bush has made, maybe being a non emotional woman is the right choice. She has my vote in 2008

  • Posted By: wendiz @ 10/16/2007 7:13:27 PM

    Comment: It is funny to read the negative connotations associated with Hillary's emotional strength. Isn't the historical view of emotional women the very reason why we've never had a woman candidate for president? This article does nothing but solidify my vote for Hillary. I want a president who can look at a situation and make a decision based on valid information. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a "cerebral and qualified" president in the White House again?

    • Posted By: nanrobb @ 10/16/2007 7:30:21 PM

      Comment: wendiz.......Please explain.. Emotional strength is exactly what this country needs. NOT A COLD, CALCULATING PYTHON out for her personal gain. No, I do not think that "the historical view of emotional women" is the reason we haven't had a woman President. If you are talking about making a decision based on "valid information", then why wouldn't you consider the information and cover-up of Hillary Clinton. You want a President with her darkened background. God Help Us!!!!

    • Posted By: Boomer In San Diego @ 10/16/2007 7:19:25 PM

      Comment: In complete agreement wendiz.................

  • Posted By: mdelac @ 10/16/2007 7:13:02 PM

    Comment: It is definitely a shame people have to live out their private lives in public. I have to tell you that we need to leave the Clinton's marriage alone. Our biggest questions should be...is she qualified to run this country? What will she do to help put our country back on track? And will she care about each and every one of us? Some people do not do well on a personal level but can care deeply about others as a whole. I feel she is one of those people. Her marriage belongs to her and her husband. Her marriage does not belong to any of us.

  • Posted By: mcasley @ 10/16/2007 7:12:38 PM

    Comment: Lets just call it like it is. People that like Bill or Hillery make excuses for their faultered relationship. I am a republican that actually think she may be an OK person on a personal level even though I think that she is off the charts politically and carries little credibility with me, I like to see a proven track record before I vote for a candidate and not vote for someone who consistantly is the first and loudest to wine about issues but offers no sensible resolve. This fact remains, she stayed in relationship through how may of Bills affairs? Who knows how many others there were she knows about and we don not. Frankly she's weak and no matter how tough she tries to be you sence the weakness but I guess you take your frustrations out somewhere, why not the Senate floor. If she had any backbone Bill would be long gone and Hillery would have the respect of alot more of us, its not love that keeps her there, its the power. I don't know of any successful women that would have stayed in that situation. A marrige situation like hers will affect other facets in her life including her performance in the White House. Most of us have been there at one time or another, think about those time