Rowling Says Dumbledore Is Gay

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  • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 11/08/2007 7:55:14 PM

    This is to the idiot known as Scribbler. Clearly you are unable to decipher the difference between hatred or digust of someone's actions and hatred of their very existence. Please try your best using the limited brain power God gave you to understand the difference between these two points of view..

  • Posted By: Haylie9 @ 11/05/2007 8:13:49 PM

    If JK had kept the fact the Dumbledore was gay to herself, she would have been dishonouring his character! Also she would have been telling the world she is against gay people by not having any in her books. Her characters are a reflection of society. Look around you people! Tell me you don't know any gay people? I think you love who you love. It does not matter what sex parts they have. Sure many people may be attracted to one sex more then the other, but who are you to judge people who arnt?. I say live and let live! Harry's greatest power was his power to love! remember! how would Dumbledore know that if he hadnt experienced it. I am glad he experienced love.

    • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 11/08/2007 7:37:31 PM

      What a bunch of hogwash. The dishonor was in proclaiming the character of Dumbledore to be gay after his death and after the books were finished. And having no gay characters in her books (and like it or not he wasn't written as being straight or gay) would say nothing one way or another about her acceptance and tolerance of homosexuality. I'm not sure what books you've been reading but most (not all) but most of the many books I've read don't feature gay characters and the ones that do put them in minor roles.

  • Posted By: 48olivias @ 10/25/2007 11:12:48 AM

    I have a very strong belief in the Bible as being the Word of God, and what is written there plainly condemns what the world calls "gay" behavior. I do not hate "gays", but I do deplore their lifestyle. More than this, I wince every time I see some "celebrity" hail it as "normal" or even "ok" since young people seem to use people like that as examples in their lives. I have read all the HP books and enjoyed them very much. To me, they are similar to the fairy tales and mythology I enjoyed as a child. Many of the characters in those old stories behaved foolishly or even wrongly, but that didn't cause me to want to emulate them. I hope that each person, child or adult, who reads Rowling's writings or comments will think for himself or herself and not base lifestyle choices on what is popular, but on what is right.

    • Posted By: Hypnosis @ 10/25/2007 1:01:10 PM

      God makes no mistakes. God created gay people. You claim God made a mistake? And the Bible does indeed consist of very old writings. Its just that those writings have been picked, and even today we're excluding parts of the Bible. The part about it being good to beat your children is going to be removed from the Bible where I live, its the only way for it to survive. What is right is what God creates.

      • Posted By: natpraise @ 10/25/2007 10:25:55 PM

        Wrong...the Bible created man who, in turn, CHOSE to sin. Being gay IS A CHOICE. Telling a lie IS A CHOICE. SIN is a choice. We all sin, which is why we need Christ as our Savior. I have no problem with people who sin. I am one of them. But, you are doing no favor to anyone by enabling them believe a lie.

        • Posted By: Hypnosis @ 10/26/2007 11:00:34 AM

          Nah, you're wrong, sweetheart. Since gay preferences exist even in nature, and has a reason to, God had a plan for it. However, that part of the Bible was written for the same sake as the part about hell was written. Not everything in the Bible was written by people who care about God, but people who care about power and getting reasons to get armed. Also, I know a person who helped translate Biblic texts, and he's stated that most of it is very unsure. The original language was cryptic, and thus the translations are not 100%.

          • Posted By: phaerelastra @ 10/26/2007 9:37:41 PM

            Gay preferences do NOT EXIST in nature because most animals do not have sex for pleasure; it is a show of dominance over another male in most cases. The only animal specifically mentioned in the Bible as evil is the jackal...which also has sex for pleasure...and also engages in homosexual activity for fun. Check your facts.

            • Posted By: SurrealEnigma @ 10/27/2007 10:37:00 AM

              Here's a comment: Wherever you have been going out and "learning" these "facts" is not the right place for you to be looking. You are a bigoted, ridiculous example of American humanity and I hope that some day you realize that being white and straight isn't the only way into heaven.
              GOD IS LOVE, people. LOVE. He is not going to shun gay people. He MADE gay people. Being gay is NOT A CHOICE! Duh! Are you really still citing that dried up old argument? You really need some new material, you sorry old hag. I hope your ready to rot in hell for your presumption that you are holy enough to PASS JUDGEMENT on other people. People like you are the lowest of low, and don't think I don't realize I'm passing judgement as well, but here's the catch: I DON'T CARE. I know that God will forgive me, just like he forgives me every time I suck a dick. I'm finished.

              -CK-

              • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 11/08/2007 7:06:22 PM

                God forgives only those who are truly sorry for their sins. I'm not saying I don't sin as well, I do, but I at least make an effort to change my sinful behavior before asking for forgiveness. Like it or not sex outside of marriage and acts of homosexuality are both choices people make and both are sins. You may have been born gay (I doubt it and find it much more likely that your upbringing made you gay but that goes back to the old nature vs. nurture argument that neither side can actually win) but you choose to engage in homosexual acts. You can't keep sucking other guys dicks as you so bluntly put it and expect God to forgive you for it when you ask. Asking for forgiveness isn't a get out of jail free pass. You have to actually mean it.

      • Posted By: natpraise @ 10/25/2007 10:31:40 PM

        You're wrong. God created man who, in turn, CHOSE to sin. To be gay IS A CHOICE. To lie, steal, commit adultery is a choice. Sin is a choice. I have no problem with people who sin. I am one of them. That is why we need Christ as our Savior. But, you are doing no one any favors by enabling them to believe the lie that God created them to be gay.

  • Posted By: Shadow_Ace @ 10/31/2007 11:56:44 AM

    Science is not perfect. That's the point. It changes as new evidence surfaces. Whereas religion is static, and doesn't bend. I don't have problem with faith or religion. The problem comes when it's imposed on everyone and it's suggested or insinuated that people with faith have better morals and values than those without. That is a lie. In my experience, people with faith are the most untrustworthy and untrusting people I know. Every good deed they do, every bad thing they don't do, has a motive behind it. To get into heaven. Where as those of us who don't believe in a higher power do and don't do those things because WE WANT TO. We don't have a motive other than doing what is right. I have a problem with people thinking because we don't believe in god, we don't have a sense of what's right and wrong. Ethics. I know what's right and what's wrong, and it may or may not match what you think is right and wrong. But like I said, when I do somehting, it's not with the motive of something better happening to me when I die. To say athiests are immoral and have no ethics is just plain ignorant.

    What would you do differently in your life if you knew, 100%, that there was no higher power? That these 80 years you have on the planet is all you get. How would my life change if I knew 100% there was a higher power? It would change dramatically. I'd second guess everything I wanted to do, thinking about how god would feel about it, or if it were a sin. That's no way to live.

    In my opinion, god is the original boogieman story, told to little children to try to make them behave and listen to their parents. The problem is, we never grew out of it.

    But again, I have strayed from the topic. A writer writes a complete background of all of their main characters so they know how the character will behave in any given situation. JK knew Dumbledore was gay from the start. If she wanted it to be used to help sell her already top selling books, she would've done done that from book 1. Get over it. Dumbledore always did what was best for others over himself. What better example of a human can we ask for? During your reading of the books, was he ever doing a reach around on Snape, or trying to trick Harry into his quarters where he can seduce the poor young lad? No. You have Dumbledore confused with a bishop. I know, it's the hat that confuses you. It's ok. The main point it, Dumbledore IS NOT REAL!! He is a fictional character. Does it matter if he's gay? No.

    Ace

    • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 11/08/2007 5:45:41 PM

      Yes of course God is the original boogieman and billions of people the world over have it all wrong going through life believing and putting their faith in an evil fictional character that promotes beating children to death with rocks and hating ones neighbors. If this were a gameshow now would be the point were the buzzer cues and the host announces "wrong answer." The fact is that science cannot and will never be able to expain why we are here and how it is that everything that exists came to be. And yes God killed millions of non believing amoral atheists with a flood (the story persists in cultures across the globe) not because they were innocent atheists but because they had given themselves up to wickedness which is what happens in a society where God is removed from all facets of life and the mantra "survival of the fittest" is the highest power people accept. And of course all of us believers only ever do good things so we can get in to heaven. Personal fullfillment and the joy of doing good deeds one can be proud of have nothing at all do with it. (cue buzzer) The fact is that in societies like the one our own is rapidly becoming the removal of God and His standards or laws from every facet of life leads to a decline in morals and basic standards of decency. How else can the moral decline of Western civilization and the rise of rapists, murderers, and sadists from every corner of our nation be explained except to say that it is because we have forced God out of our culture and replaced Him with meaningless sex and rampant violence. This should not be taken as an argument for a religious theocracy by any means but rather for a tolerance of others religious beliefs and the public expression of those beliefs. I'm all for freedom of expression but there has to be a balance, a moral compass if you will, that sets basic standards for acceptable human behavior (otherwise children will get the message that all the raping, and murdering, and acts of cruelty they observe on telivision are acceptable standards for human behavior). Whether you believe in God or not the fact is that allowing HIm into our culture gives children those standards and gives them a good moral role model to emulate in the form of Jesus (who is in fact not fictional at all but has been proven to have lived).

  • Posted By: secondchance @ 11/05/2007 8:35:36 PM

    You know, JK, if you would have revealed this little tidbit earlier I really wonder how many schools would support you? Or any other church going family in this country?! Jeez-you just stepped in it big time!!! Good luck selling any more books in this area! Shame on you, I thought you were a church-goer.....

    • Posted By: obigonjinn @ 11/08/2007 10:02:50 AM

      FYI second chance and all you church goers!!!! Jk wrote her books about witch craft a subject band by the church all you Christians should burn your books right know if you dont like that fact that dumbledore is

      • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 11/08/2007 4:42:30 PM

        The words you meant to write but weren't smart enough to figure out how to use in a grammatically correct manner are "prejudiced" (as in all of you who don't like Dumbledore being gay are "prejudiced", notice how the word is lower case and has an "ed" on the end) and "banned" (as in the books should be "banned", the word band is used to describe a group of people that play instruments and make songs together).

  • Posted By: garbo @ 10/23/2007 10:51:34 PM

    Ok, so what if Dumbledore is gay. Does it make him any less heroic? No, it doesn't. I'm sick of holy rollers pretending that gay people don't exist. They exist and they are people with feelings just like everybody else. Get over it, homophobes! Dumbledore is a gay man and a great hero. He is a great moral figure and my personal favorite adult character in the series. You people need to come to terms with the fact that you can't catch gay. You either are or you aren't. Deal with it.

    • Posted By: phaerelastra @ 10/24/2007 9:22:12 AM

      Romans 2:26-32 - For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Like was also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, back-biters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

      It doesn't make me a holy roller to believe in that passage. We are all sinners; what gives us forgiveness is willing to make changes in our lives and stop committing a sin. A lifestyle of sin will not earn you forgiveness and those that approve of such things are damned as well. Not my rules, and I don't pass judgment; God will sort it out. My point as it relates to these stories? I can't allow a simple phrase like "Dumbledore is gay" to impact the life of my child and her thoughts and beliefs. So I'm going to take Rowling's commentary as garbage to sell more books and nothing more. There is no suggestion in the books to such a thing, which is why I think she made it up for no apparent reason. But surely, my kid won't be reading these books...

      • Posted By: Scribbler @ 10/25/2007 12:20:19 AM

        There's nothing in the books and yet you won't let your kid read them because of what isn't there?

        Anyway, note a key phrase in that passage: "exchanged the natural use for what is against nature." Guess what? In modern times we know that there are some people (and some animals too, who don't *make* decisions) who are, in fact, naturally gay. Going against nature is bad. That includes some of this ex-gay stuff, but not homosexuality among the small percentage of people that it appears in.

        • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 11/08/2007 4:33:35 PM

          As others have said, what you label as gay animals are actually animals engaged in displays of dominance or animals that have been forced as a result of a combination of selective pressure (i.e. the need to have one parent at home to watch the kids while the other hunts for food) and the absence of either male or female members of the species.

        • Posted By: natpraise @ 10/25/2007 10:54:57 PM

          Wrong-being gay IS A CHOICE. Color, age, gender-they are not choices. Sexual orientation is.

          • Posted By: *giggle* @ 10/29/2007 12:10:36 PM

            I was wondering where you found proof that being gay is a choice as I've heard plausible arguments for both choice and genetics. If you have a link to any dissertations on either side, I would be very interested in reading them. I'm all for equal representation. As for Dumbledore being gay, I don't really think it affects the books too much. Nowhere does Rowling explicitly state in her books that he is gay. I think, this is my personal opinion mind, that people who no longer like the series just because of a statement made after the fact is rather silly. Please pardon any spelling errors as I can't seem to see what I'm typing this far down.

          • Posted By: *giggle* @ 10/29/2007 12:03:43 PM

            I was wondering where you found proof that being gay is a choice rather than natural? I've heard that you are born gay and I've heard that it is a choice; both with equally compelling arguments. I do not have an opinion on either option as I do not have concrete proof, so I'd like to save that judgment for later. In the case of Dumbledore being gay, I found it rather amusing. The thing I got from this comment was not so much an afterthought as a fact that would have been irrelevant in the text itsel (just like the other school yard romances). I personally don't think it matters that he is gay. He's a fictional character so I think that people are taking this comment way too seriously....

    • Posted By: RemusLupin @ 10/25/2007 8:53:50 AM

      The point is that "Dumbledore is gay" is not a fact, but an interpretation. Because it was states after the books were written.

  • Posted By: cdance1 @ 10/23/2007 10:21:28 PM

    I have read many posts on many websites on this issue. I never read the books for other reasons so this revelation doesn't make dislike them anymore than I did before. But one thing did stand out to me. For all the tolerance and love and acceptance people talk about who support the gay lifestyle they do not seem to extend that to Christians who disagree with them. I am a Christian and I do believe the Bible says that the gay lifestyle is wrong. But I would never ever ever treat someone who is gay with hatred, unkindness, or rudeness that I have seen aimed at Christians on all these blogs. I would never make fun of what they believe, call them stupid, or bigots, or any other name. Because that is against my faith too. I will always, always respect and be kind to people (no matter who they are) because God made them and loves them. So why don't we all stop treating each other so poorly. So I disagree with you, that is no reason to put down me and people who believe the way I do for believing what we believe. FYI- I do acknowledge that some Christians can be just as hateful when it comes to this issue. But trust me, there are many more who are not. You just don't see them in the media because they are to busy helping people in need rather than screaming and fighting with people.

    • Posted By: Scribbler @ 10/25/2007 12:23:44 AM

      You're saying that you disagree with people existing, but that people disagreeing with your statements is offensive. Then you actually call other people a hypocrite.

      As a very devoted Christian, I suggest that you pay more attention to the "Christ" part of our name. He didn't mention homosexuality. He did mention that the specific rules weren't the point (and modern Christians ignore almost everything from the code where people draw the anti-gay statement from except that one vague statement, by the way), that religious people using their faith to hurt people was really bad, and that the outcasts of society needed to be more welcomed. Make of that what you will, but never forget it.

      • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 11/08/2007 4:27:17 PM

        Once again you prove that you can't read. He didn't say anything about disagreeing with gay people existing. He disagrees with their lifestyle and the choices thay make.

    • Posted By: roonalwazlib @ 10/23/2007 11:13:26 PM

      Bingo! You've called them on their hypocritical ways. Thank you!

  • Posted By: Norrin @ 11/07/2007 1:41:35 PM

    Let us be clear about something--every human being has some level of prejudice in his/her thoughts. It is only human to want to "hang out" with some and avoid others like the plague. Prejudice in its simplest form doesn't necessarily mean it is a bad thing. All it means is that one chooses to accept certain aspects of a person???s or group???s characteristics and rejecting others. But in this case, people who no longer accept Dumbledore as a great character due to Rowling's "outing" of him is silly. Does her admission change the fact that he is an intellectual giant and a very powerful wizard? Of course not! However, on another level, just because Dumbledore was gay in Rowling's mind doesn't mean that all readers will accept it. Why? Because his sexual orientation was never mentioned or written in the actual series, where it really counts. Rowling knew better than that, since it would've most likely ended the gravy train that the Potter series represented to her bank account. All in all, once again, just because Rowling states that he is gay doesn???t mean that readers will accept it. I once heard that Dracula was meant to be a gay character (a masculine creature sucking on the neck of men), but who today thinks that it is true?

    • Posted By: obigonjinn @ 11/08/2007 10:13:43 AM

      Dumbledore is Gay I am Bi-Sexual who cares!!!?????? for all you prejudice morons out there I feel so sorry for you!!!!! how dare you slander someone simply for LOVE and that's what it is LOVE!!!!!!!! imagine being born to a world where you a persecuted purely for love it is not a crime are they hurting any one are we Bi-Sexuals hurting anyone noooooooo!!!!!!! in my mind Jk choose the right momnet to bring him out!!! shame on all of you who hate him now Jk made him an icon and now more so i love him i still do and i think he is a desent role model for future generations!!!!! fdrevealbcdjjcnnckndcnnkdkdln d

      • Posted By: Norrin @ 11/08/2007 3:41:24 PM

        Obigonjinn--Although some have clearly shown prejudice toward Dumbledore for his newly-exposed sexual orientation, not all folks agree with what Rowling has done. And I'm talking about those that have no malice toward gays. The problem with "outing" Dumbledore is that it has no meaning or connection to the story. His sexual orientation did not assist with helping Harry, or fighting Voldemort, or running Hogwarts, or befriending and then defeating Grindelwald. There's no connection. So for Rowling to make a public statement about Dumbledore being gay is as inconsequential as her saying that Professor McGonagall is ***. How in the story does this new piece of information make a difference. It doesn't. And therefore, this is why many believe it was Rowling trying to appease the gay community by making a major, lovable character homosexual.

  • Posted By: Getthrowed @ 11/08/2007 12:14:33 PM

    yes people choose to be gay. its a welcomed disease and its disgusting. sadam did one thing right. he killed the faggots

  • Posted By: obigonjinn @ 11/08/2007 10:58:12 AM

    LONG LIVE DUMBLEDORE!!!!!!!!! DUMBLEDORE IS GAY YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! IM SO HAPPY GOOD FOR HIM GOOD FOR JK I'M WRITING A BOOK AT THE MOMENT AND IT'S GONNA BE DEDICATED TO HER!!!!!! WHY HATE HER WHY SAY IT WAS A PROMOTIONAL STUNT SHE IS A THE FREEKING GODDESS OF BOOK WRITERS KEEP YOUR HOMOPHOBE COMMENTS TO YOURSELF AND IF YOUR CHRISTIAN THEN YOU SHOULD NOT BE READING THE BOOKS AT ALLL GO TO CHURCH AND PRAY CAUSE IF YOU LIKED HARRY POTTER THEN YOU GOIN TO HELL I CANT WAIT LONG LIVE GAYS!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: keithbrown @ 10/19/2007 10:47:57 PM

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    • Posted By: obigonjinn @ 11/08/2007 10:34:41 AM

      2 all homophobes a curse for you. the pain and grief that you do give for you it's free fold so you may live to know and feel and change you ways with harm to none send back you ways to trial and suffer forever more
      for Lucifer to stand at your door take back you ways you evil words or you shall join the dark onesherds!! a curse for you called REALIZATION read this and you are cursed if you are prejudice .

    • Posted By: obigonjinn @ 11/08/2007 10:25:25 AM

      God said what you hold true on earth i hold true in heaven!!!! and I HOLD IT TRUE THAT DUMBELDORE IS THE GREATEST OF ALL CHARACTERS EVER CREATED IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU KNOW WHERE TO STICK IT YOU UNEXCEPTING SCUM OF THE EARTH GOOD ON JK GOOD ON ALL OPENLY GAY PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: goblewoble @ 11/06/2007 8:00:14 PM

    dumbledores gay!!!!! of course it matters!!! IVE LOST ALL RESPECT FOR HIM!!!

  • Posted By: Sammi @ 11/07/2007 3:16:06 AM

    People who no longer like Dumbledore because of this information are PREJUDICE, plain and simple.

    Some comments are making this look like Rowling just sprung this on everybody, when she was actually answering a question.

  • Posted By: Sammi @ 11/07/2007 3:12:32 AM

    People who no longer like Dumbledore because of this information are PREJUDICE, plain and simple.

    Some comments are making this look like Rowling just sprung this on everybody, when she was actually answering a question a fan had asked.

  • Posted By: goblewoble @ 11/06/2007 8:05:56 PM

    dumbledore is gay!!!! of course it matters!!!!! IVE LOST ALL RESPECT FOR HIM NOW WTF???

  • Posted By: goblewoble @ 11/06/2007 7:59:29 PM

    dumbledores gay!!!! of course it matters! ive lost all respect for him now

  • Posted By: Norrin @ 11/06/2007 3:18:54 PM

    It really doesn't matter what Albus Dumbledore???s sexuality is or what JK Rowling intended his sexual preference to be. The fact is that his preference was never divulged in the book. And that is where such a revelation must exist in order for it to mean something. What matters is what future readers will glean from the series. Just because J.K. Rowling conveniently admits Dumbledore's sexuality is gay doesn???t necessarily mean that current or future readers will accept it, despite the fact that she is the author. The bottom line is that readers extract different meanings from characters and storylines, and just because an author later states what he or she intended a character to be doesn't necessarily mean that the author???s version is what the readers understood. In my mind, because Albus???s sexuality was not mentioned in the series, Albus will solely remain a wise, powerful wizard that stood for goodness and righteousness. The fact that Rowling added that he is gay after she wrote the book has little to no meaning.

  • Posted By: Norrin @ 11/06/2007 3:11:05 PM

    It really doesn't matter what Albus Dumbledore???s sexuality is or what JK Rowling intended his sexual preference to be. The fact is that his preference was never divulged in the book. And that is where such a revelation must exist in order for it to mean something. What matters is what future readers will glean from the series. Just because J.K. Rowling conveniently admits Dumbledore's sexuality is gay doesn???t necessarily mean that current or future readers will accept it, despite the fact that she is the author. The bottom line is that readers extract different meanings from characters and storylines, and just because an author later states what he or she intended a character to be doesn't necessarily mean that the author???s version is what the readers understood. In my mind, because Albus???s sexuality was not mentioned in the series, Albus will solely remain a wise, powerful wizard that stood for goodness and righteousness. The fact that Rowling added that he is gay after she wrote the book has little to no meaning.

  • Posted By: SirWulfricPaddington31 @ 11/05/2007 12:39:20 PM

    Thought he and minvera were lovers proves you can be wrong, but pretty cool that he's gay though

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