Rowling Says Dumbledore Is Gay

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  • Posted By: unowen7 @ 10/21/2007 8:45:04 PM

    Again my friends, just because I relay the Word of God you get offensive and angry. It's God's truth not mine and I'm quite happy to be apart of his Kingdom. He judges, not me. He has declared homosexuality and witchcraft evil. See for yourself.

    Deuteronomy 18:11 - "There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead."

    2 Chronicles 33:6 - "Also he caused his sons to pass through the fire in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom; he practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft and sorcery, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger."

    I am obsessed with God. I am a Jesus freak. Judge me if you will for I do not judge you. I simply relay the truth. You can choose to accept it or reject it and you can answer to God, whatever the blessings or consequences may be. Witchcraft, sorcery, homosexuality, etc. is infiltrating all facets of life of all ages and it is not a good thing. God did not create homosexuality or any sin for that matter and He hates sin. AGAIN, I never said the people were hated but the sin itself is what is evil (although there are many who decide to foster evil in their hearts) and that is what must be dealt with. People must change their ways, repent and follow Jesus. Unfortunately, most people make excuses for their sinful lifestyles, "I was born that way," "It's the way of the world," "I'm not judgmental," etc. and opt to live in sin ignoring God's commands to live according to His standards. Do what you must, I wash my hands. You have read and know the truth and you will be held accountable if you continue to live in ignorance of God's love and commands.

    • Posted By: *giggle* @ 10/29/2007 12:53:54 PM

      Wow, that was scary. I honestly don't know if you are that fanatical and gung-ho about your religion or if you were just being highfalutin and trying to cause upheaval... Oh! I bet this is simply a reactionary statement and you wanted to stir people up and think. Still, scary (thinking obviously hurts my brain...).

  • Posted By: moonshine @ 10/22/2007 7:26:53 AM

    i cannot believe that Dumbledore is gay ;( it doesn't make me happy..it makes me cry. I don't like gays, sorry if i 'm rude .. Dumbledore is dead for me..

    • Posted By: *giggle* @ 10/29/2007 12:43:54 PM

      Two things: 1) Dumbledore was 'dead' before Rowling revealed his sexuality and 2) He's a fictional character, so in what sense do you mean 'alive?'

    • Posted By: Scribbler @ 10/25/2007 6:46:42 PM

      So everything you ever saw him do was wonderful. Now, you know that the entire time you thought he was wonderful, he was gay. And not doing any of the negative stuff you associate with gay people.

      Instead of ignoring everything you've read, maybe you could learn something here?

  • Posted By: HuneycuttL@missouri.edu @ 10/22/2007 12:30:01 PM

    Uh, no. I have, here at my disposal, a copy of the 1592/1593 Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible, which contains the following for Exodus 22:18: Maleficos non patieris vivere (You shall not allow a witch to live). You might be able to make a case that the original Hebrew didn't have the offending verse, I don't know, but it is there in medieval Bibles and wasn't made up in the reign of James I. And it was James I, not James II, who commissioned the KJV.

    • Posted By: Scribbler @ 10/25/2007 6:45:27 PM

      By "witch" that would mean that a person who goes against God by working to break the laws of nature.
      In the Harry Potter series, some people have this as a natural, God-given ability. And magic still follows rules, just more lenient than the normal rules of nature.

      So that's not all that applicable.

      • Posted By: *giggle* @ 10/29/2007 12:42:40 PM

        Oh, I never thought of it that way. Cool. It does make sense. Now, in order to avoid a written hanging, you're going to have to find a concrete definition of 'natural laws.' I've read a bit of French Enlightenment authors such as Diderot and Montesquieu and they have some interesting views on that definition (as does Milton). I'm all for new ideas!

  • Posted By: dra7400 @ 10/22/2007 2:12:34 PM

    Curses to J.K. Rowling!! Even though I've never read any of the books, and only seen a couple of the movies and I'm not really a fan...Dumbledore has always been my hero and rolemodel! I've tried to model my entire life based on what I've learned from Dumbledore! I'm a Super-conservative-right-wing-Christian-Fundamentalist, and until today I was a faithful and loving husband as well as a devoted father of 5. After reading that my one true hero is Gay I suddenly had an awakening and realized that I'm Gay too!!!!! Woe is me! Now I'm leaving my wife, my kids won't talk to me an I'm going to hell! CURSE ROWLING!!! Damn her to hell for this!

    • Posted By: *giggle* @ 10/29/2007 12:39:08 PM

      hehehe, sarcasm. ;)

  • Posted By: Anarky87 @ 10/22/2007 7:42:33 PM

    So then was Dumbledore just looking at a Harry as somewhere to stick his sword of gryffindor? And was it a hate crime when Snape killed him?

    • Posted By: *giggle* @ 10/29/2007 12:33:08 PM

      Let me first just say that I am a great fan of sarcasm. On that note, I laughed my butt off when I read your comment. It was especially uplifting after all the meanness I've read. I have a strong opinion about things but I no longer feel up to expressing them as I no longer feel they're of any import compared to all of the other 'strong' opinions of everyone else. Hate crime or mercy killing, what's your opinion?

  • Posted By: JesusFreak18 @ 10/29/2007 12:18:08 AM

    First of all, let me quote straight from the Bible. Genesis 19:5 "They called to lot, 'where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we may Know (have "SEX" with) them!'" They then proceeded to try and break down the door, until the angels blinded the mob and help lot and his family out of the city. Now, to the other part--the part where you said that the angels were sent to destroy the towns because of poor hospitality?--this is a quote of scripture too:
    Gen. 18:20-21 "Then the Lord said, 'the outcry against Soddom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me, If not I will know.'"
    Scribbler--Trust me...just because I am young does not mean I am ill-informed. God instructed His disciples to be well educated in the troubles of our day. I have done this in order to show the world God's love and give them His word. Christ is Love. Love does not mean tolerance. Love does not mean ignorance. Please do not underestimate Him or I.

  • Posted By: schoolstocker @ 10/21/2007 9:40:26 PM

    ..but got created the earth in three days .. ok.. so then also if god did not create homosexuality why does it say in the BIBLE you holy book god spoke Get thee behind me Satan Sounds kinda homo to me, but thats my opinion just because some one is different and isnt a bible thumper like some ppl are dosent meen they are sinners and evil some may still believe in a higher power (aka "GOD") but still have other religions do you call then sinners as well? where do you get off judging people like that (i know you said im not judging) but thats a cover up for the fact that you are just because the lord dosent like it meens you dont. i believe yes there is a god .. but if he killed him self (sorry sacrifised) for our sins then there is a world of forgiveness in him and there for loves all of his children and no one Has the Right to be saying the way some one else is living is Wrong and sin full. live your life the way you see fit but dont preach to people who obviously dont want to hear it because in all awnesty your just waisting air and our time because we end up reading it and getting mad then writing something like this so you can write back and complain bash me and say im putting down your religion.. when i clearly stated i do believe and a god .. but there are hundreds of "god" "no one shall be put before me " i dont put anyone before him i put them with him .. unless its my family their there for me when i need them i have never once had god come down and talk to me and tell me things will be alright. i have faith, i just choose to use it differently . reply or not i dont really care.

    • Posted By: JesusFreak18 @ 10/23/2007 1:42:03 PM

      First of all, God is loving and Mercifull...but He is also JUST. If you want to read about it look up Genesis 18. It not only talks about God's anger towards the Homosexual lifestyle but also His mercy. Abraham pleads with The Angel of God (a.k.a. Jesus) for the towns of Sodom and Gomorrah (which He still destroyed in the end because of the extent of their wickedness--a.k.a. asking Lot to send out the Angels so that they could have sex with them). If you believe the way you say you do, you would be willing to research it out and not be stuck in your rut thinking you know better. And don't go Blaspheming the Bible...know what your talking about before you open your mouth. No offense to you and your "religion", but when you insult Jesus and call Him "homo" That's when I take offense. Yeah, the person in the Bible was Jesus talking to Satan when the Devil was tempting Him in the desert after Christ hadn't eaten in 40 days. And Christ Died on the Cross in order to save humanity from themselves; not so that they could just continue with their sinful lives (myself included, because even though I am a Christian I am as much a sinner as any other human). Jesus died to pave a way to himself. It is your choice whether to follow HIm or turn your back on Him. He loves you the same either way, but does not mean He accepts your lifestyles that you choose to partake in. And as a Human I am not perfect and shouldn't judge others--That's God's job--but God does tell us what is right and wrong and that we should follow His words and lead others to know them as we do. I do not "judge" people, that's not my place...I minister to people and allow them the chance to make the choice of Salvation or their own lifestyle. And in all "HONESTY" I do not believe Salvation is a waste of air or time...do you? And if you do not want to be accused of "bashing" my faith--because that is what Faith is, not being able to see or feel and yet believing "Hebrews 11:1 Faith is being sure of what you hope for, and CERTAIN of what you do not SEE."--don't. It's that simple. And please do not accuse me of being a Bible Thumper--that is not what I am--I am simply a young Christian standing up for what I believe in.

      • Posted By: Scribbler @ 10/25/2007 6:54:26 PM

        The Sodom and Gomorrah story features angels being sent to towns that were already going to be destroyed because of how they treat strangers.

        The angels were going there to give the people a last chance. If they could be nice to the angels, they would live. Instead of being nice, they attempted to rape them. The angels considered this a failing peformance, but rescued the handful of people who were nice to them.

        There isn't even any homosexuality *in* the story. And it's explained several times: "This was the sin of sister Sodom." Why would it need to be explained repeatedly? My theory is that this "theory" has come up before in history. And got shouted down by people who knew what they were talking about.

        • Posted By: JesusFreak18 @ 10/29/2007 12:14:37 AM

          First of all, let me quote straight from the Bible. Genesis 19:5 "They called to lot, 'where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we may Know (have "SEX" with) them!'" They then proceeded to try and break down the door, until the angels blinded the mob and help lot and his family out of the city. Now, to the other part--the part where you said that the angels were sent to destroy the towns because of poor hospitality?--this is a quote of scripture too:
          Gen. 18:20-21 "Then the Lord said, 'the outcry against Soddom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me, If not I will know.'"
          Trust me...just because I am young does not mean I am ill-informed. God instructed His disciples to be well educated in the troubles of our day. I have done this in order to show the world God's love and give them His word. Christ is Love. Love does not mean tolerance. Love does not mean ignorance. Please do not underestimate Him or I.

      • Posted By: phaerelastra @ 10/24/2007 9:39:03 AM

        God is just, loving and merciful...he is also an angry and jealous God. If you made all of existence and all you asked in return of the people you made was for them to obey, wouldn't you be pretty pissed off when they defend sin and continually disobey? I know it bothers me immensely when my daughter disobeys...imagine how He feels for a second...billions of children, constantly doing wrong...

  • Posted By: ulfdog @ 10/20/2007 10:59:50 AM

    I think she is brilliant. How many other authors can say that were able to get not only millions of kids to read her books, but that she was able to convince kids, and adults who never pick up a book to read 300, 400, or even 600 pages.

    As for the religious right and the gay question, wasn???t it those who were not allowed in the temples, the so called unclean, the cripples, that Jesus spoke too? Wasn???t his message to except each other as children of god and not exploit our difference for fortune or political fame?

    • Posted By: I Help Make Magic @ 10/28/2007 10:55:48 PM

      all i can say here is amen!

  • Posted By: selowitch @ 10/20/2007 9:02:12 AM

    I can see it now ... Republicans in the U.S. Congress will move to pass the Defense of Literary Marriage Act forbidding fictional characters in books from entering into same-sex unions.

    • Posted By: I Help Make Magic @ 10/28/2007 10:53:47 PM

      I would laugh, but I'm terribly afraid that this might come to pass...

  • Posted By: keithbrown @ 10/19/2007 10:51:08 PM

    this is a terrible shame. What seemed like a wholesome book, ruined. What was highly touted among biblical christians as "christian" is nothign more than mordern day garbage. Our 3 copies are headed for the trash.

    • Posted By: orka @ 10/28/2007 10:38:40 PM

      for crying out loud ITS A BOOK ABOUT WITCHCRAFT U BIGOT!!!! NOW YOU R WORRIED ABOUT HOMOSEXUALS??

    • Posted By: Sinjid777 @ 10/20/2007 9:58:24 PM

      Enter Your Commentgood job throwing away your copies keith, i'm proud. Also, to those who think this "ironic" i beleive they are correct. But this does not mean that it is our fault that we enjoyed this book, there was no way for us to know that dumbledore was homosexual. she completely demoralized the book in doing so. It is not our fault we didn't know Dumbledore was gay he was great untuil she made him gay.

    • Posted By: annarussiano @ 10/19/2007 11:20:17 PM

      I'm usually a nice and polite person, I must say that you are a prime example of what is wrong with humanity.

    • Posted By: jwilkins @ 10/19/2007 11:12:24 PM

      You would truly throw away a book, which you liked, because of something that never happens in the books and has no bearing on the story? And of course, you already paid for the three books, so what does Rowling care what you do with them? The truly fascinating part, though, is that you are implying that Christians misinterpreted the fundamental nature of a written document. How ironic.

  • Posted By: keithbrown @ 10/19/2007 10:49:17 PM

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    • Posted By: aria28 @ 10/20/2007 11:35:37 AM

      This is just a silly promotional stunt. If she had Declared Harry gay, I could see all the outrage because it??s one thing to promote love and equality but quite another to actually promote being gay. On the other hand, in this day in age, when our children are going to be in contact with plenty of gay people I think it??s a good idea get them prepared. If they read a story where a character is gay but still wise and noble it will teach them to respect and accept the gays they meet in their lives. It will NOT however, make them decide to grow up and BE gay!!

      • Posted By: orka @ 10/28/2007 10:34:02 PM

        and if they become gay (or are born gay... whatever) they will at least have a role model.

  • Posted By: green_day_grl121234 @ 10/28/2007 9:08:20 PM

    A dear family member [my cousin, in fact] died in a car crash Monday. She was sixteen. When the first two HP books came out, she bought them for us, when she was younger. She loved reading Harry Potter as well. If she was alive, she would have hated to find that this obscene news about Dumbledore being gay. She had also just learned the ten commandments from the Bible, before she had died a horrible death. We even bought her a Golden Snitch from Barnes and Noble, since we all thought it would be worth something one day. But after this news, it seems worthless now. We know Dumbledore wasn't a real character, but it's hard enough to know children read these books, and now all know, as they read the seventh book of the series, that Dumbledore is gay. I'm eleven, and telling you, JK, to stop killing chidren's minds. All that money can be taken away from you as fast as you earned it, just like my cousin's life was taken from her. -- Sydney Joiner.

    • Posted By: orka @ 10/28/2007 10:31:05 PM

      u dont sound 7 at all....

  • Posted By: orka @ 10/28/2007 10:30:22 PM

    ridiculous! to be preaching about judeo - christian beliefs concerning the homosexuality of a fictional character on a story based solely on witchcraft. Hello!!!???

  • Posted By: skategirl009 @ 10/27/2007 11:11:21 AM

    Your right, the God doesn't make mistakes. The Bible explains that God isn't against homosexuals, of course you are his children as well as everyone else; however it is homosexual actions that are condemned. I don't know why this is, we cannot know God's plans, but everyone is born with a spiritual weakness of some kind, and perhaps that is what is chalks up to be. I personally know that it is possible to live a life with God and still be a homosexual. I have to say though, beware, God knows all, He knows your heart, and acting out in any way against God with the assumption that you can just ask for forgiveness is immature and wrong. That is not acting out of love for God but rather for yourself.

    • Posted By: orka @ 10/28/2007 10:27:55 PM

      ridiculous. To be preaching about your judeo - christian beliefs concerning homosexuality on a story based solely on witchcraft. Hello is there a real mind in there? or is this some kind of drone?
      Rationalize it however you want but religion and bigotry have no place here.

  • Posted By: green_day_grl121234 @ 10/28/2007 6:54:25 PM

    I have read every book and enjoyed them. I suppose being gay is in today. It destroyed for my whole family that one comment three words, and believe me we've read thousands of them. Those three words made everything we'd read worthless. We felt both sorrow for you when we were told you were on welfare, and were so happy that you managed with your wonderful mind to rid yourself of the state of being impoverished. You have a great mind, you used it well, some of your books were very hard to read as they were so long, and one sometimes lost interest but always picked it back up. Dumbledore was one of the favorites, I would imagine, to everyone. Being gay is sad. And it does not belong in these stories. I am English, I am broad minded, and I am wondering why on Earth you would have to do that. It has nothing to do with the story, and I believe you have enough money now that you do not need to use sensationalism to create more money. I am not homophobic, but I am saddened that such wonderful stories would have to include one sexual preference. If it had anything to do with anything, that would be ok. But it did not. What's next? Hagrid and Buckbeak will bed down together also? I am very disappointed in you. Most people will clap. And you will earn more money, I'm sure. But before you make more comments like that, remember the children that read them, and the awful sadness that gay people have to live sometimes. My granddaughter died Monday in a car crash. She was not driving, she was just sixteen. I have an eleven year old who likes your books. The only book that outsells you I think is the Bible. I don't know if you believe it or not, but I do know what it says about gay people in it. And God is not clapping. You are very lucky to have come so far in your life, and I wish you well. But before you make another statement like that, stop and think about all the children and all those who have died through HIV and the like. I do not judge you, but you surely surprised me. God bless, Vicki Joiner.

  • Posted By: The-Real-World @ 10/28/2007 10:31:39 AM

    Everywhere i turn it's another person saying "being gay is a choice." There is only one choice when you are discovering youself during the "questioning" period: Will I accept who I am, or will I be what others want me to be. Further down someone posted a passage from the bible that called homosexuality "loveless." Gay couples experiance the very same love that any straight couple do, and it is foolish to believe otherwise. People judge homosexuals because of steryotypical feminin guys which is ridiculus. Believe me, not all gay people are like that; you'd think you'd be able to see a gay couple in a crowd of people, but, chances are you wouldn't because we blend in. We are normal guys (or girls) just like you.
    People who have threatened to not let their children read these fascinating books just because of an interperation which was never expressed during the actual novel is ridiculus. To be honest, I read the seventh book and I NEVER picked up on it.
    Go ahead read this comment, be disgusted, and move on. It's all you ever do which is why our society will never heal itself.

  • Posted By: The-Real-World @ 10/28/2007 10:31:14 AM

    Everywhere i turn it's another person saying "being gay is a choice." There is only one choice when you are discovering youself during the "questioning" period: Will I accept who I am, or will I be what others want me to be. Further down someone posted a passage from the bible that called homosexuality "loveless." Gay couples experiance the very same love that any straight couple do, and it is foolish to believe otherwise. People judge homosexuals because of steryotypical feminin guys which is ridiculus. Believe me, not all gay people are like that; you'd think you'd be able to see a gay couple in a crowd of people, but, chances are you wouldn't because we blend in. We are normal guys (or girls) just like you.
    People who have threatened to not let their children read these fascinating books just because of an interperation which was never expressed during the actual novel is ridiculus. To be honest, I read the seventh book and I NEVER picked up on it.
    Go ahead read this comment, be disgusted, and move on. It's all you ever do which is why our society will never heal itself.

  • Posted By: garyo36 @ 10/28/2007 1:01:45 AM

    Gay people don't hurt anyone. It's not a crime to be different. What causes a thing to be wrong or sinful is what comes from it. A thing is right or wrong for reasons that can be determined. Gay people have sex for the exact same reasons straight people do unless we're talking about making babies. We should be more concerned with promiscuity and unsafe sex than who's having sex. Gay marriage is good for society for the exact same reasons marriage has always been good for society. It encourages love, monogamy, and commitment while discouraging promiscuity and the spread of sexually transmitted deseases.. common sense is that homosexuality in and of itself causes no consequences for society. People who say otherwise are just being ridiculous!

  • Posted By: Goku-Lover21 @ 10/27/2007 11:39:51 PM

    The most fantastic News I've heard all month. Go Dumbledore!! One of the few Un-stereotypical characters in pop-culture.I was waiting for her to out one of the characters...but I wasn't expecting Dumbledore.

  • Posted By: Skynyrdfanforever @ 10/27/2007 9:36:30 PM

    Why do we have to have gays in everything now?. Contrary to popular demand, not everybody agree's or condones that lifestyle.

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