A new DVD of an old movie may offer perspective on American attitudes behind the invasion of Iraq.
Comment: America was always a nation whose dreams and visions allowed us to reach beyond sordid realities. Now the visions have turned dark and even reality has a hard time matching the horrors on offer by the Bush admin. It's time to call them out and reclaim both our vision and our future. Thanks for speaking up.
Comment: It is back to "Lord of the Flies by William Golding, which talked about the basic savagery in man. And it is a replay of the events that led up to the Second World War. Germany humiliated, unable to manage itself financially, and unable to protect itself from the goons that took to beating up people on behalf of Hitler. Hitler became inevitable. What caused the aftermath to become horrific was the inability -- more unwillingness -- on the part of the strongest countries to prevent the tyrant from growing bigger. Iraq's problems will also, eventually, be solved by a strongman, a tyrant. There's no escaping that fact. What the world -- not the US -- will have to see is that he does not grow bigger. To do that, ALL oil contracts in Iraq will have to be renegotiated so that they don't become another Ruhr Valley situation
Comment: I have long recognized a certain psychosis in the behavior of the current administration, and this article put its finger right on the nub! We are all aware of the preoccupation of this group to attacking Iraq prior to the 2000 election. I just never connected the dots so thoroughly. We had better stop wishing and DO SOMETHING!
Comment: I never thought of it in terms of "Deliverance" but you have managed to frame the unbridled idiocy of the Bush administration. I just hope these cowards don't start another war with Iran before they leave office. And I'd like to see all of them tried for Treason, if they cannot be impeached.
Comment: Contray to the correlation: The perils of the mountain, ragging river and mtn men,left alone , were transfixed to the mountain, posing no real threat to Lewis and his merry men. Don't forget the burning buildings and loss of life on 9/11. Unlike the mtn men of Tennessee, these boys found their way from their caves, to the shores of the USA.
Comment: The caves were in Afghanistan, not Iraq. George, Dick, the GOP, and the military, not satisfied with crushing the Taliban, found their way from the shores of the USA to the streets of Baghdad. Iraq is their war, not mine. From the looks of things, they will be in Iraq for another 5, 10, maybe 15 years. That's fine with me, 'cause I sure as hell ain't goin' there.
Comment: Here's another correlation. When Ed's strapped up to the tree and being told he has "a real purty mouth", he sees Lewis through the trees drawing a bead on the mountain man with his arrow. With his eyes and slight notions of his head, he encourages Lewis to take the shot.
When the American public and policy makers were still in the thrall of the horror inflicted by the events of 9/11, many gave in to their fear and need for vengeance by voting for the administration to "take the shot".
Unfortunately, they didn't realize that the voice they heard telling them they had a real purty mouth was that of a ventriloquist.
Comment: The comment I made below, about the mistreatment of Prisioners is wrong, in all fairness it is no different then abusing Elephants for a show, and to abuse them for Profit.
Blackwater Ops, is no different then animal abuse, no different then being set for a crime you did not do, and those responsible will say this. Say Nothing, Deny Everything, hay thats what the CIA says, and so you get those who are corrupt to cover up the Truth. I have first hand knowledge of this type of activites within the, Ringling Bros. Circus, just what Mr. Kenneth Feld, CEO of Feld Ent., and the Owner of the Greatest Show on Earth did to me. Set Me Up for a Crime I did not do.. So, please feel free to comment, or just E-Mail me Directly at.. glenn_dale_ewell@hotmail.com / glenndalaeewell@yahoo.com, I answer all responses, good, and or bad, and I answer your feedback. Thank you for your time. Glenn Ewell, Ringling Bros. Whistle Blower.
Comment: Excuse me, dodger fan: it's not the GOP that's fighting this war. They guys who started the war are as far away from it as they can get. Now, if George and Dick and those guys want to go fight and die in Iraq, I'd agree with you. As usual, though, it's the kids who are fighting, not the buttheads who pushed us into this mess.
Comment: You are correct. However, George and Dick could not do this without the unwavering support of their core constituents, the GOP senators/reps who fail to override the vetoes, and the military itself. Most of those who fight and die in Iraq do so of their own free will. It is their war, not yours or mine. If they want to fight it, what right do we have to stop them?
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Comment: Yes, the courage that is needed is to cut off the funding. Fearing that they would appear to be failing to support the troops, Democrats continue to approve the funding. And Mr. Bush might well send the troops into combat anyway.
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lleast least the Congress would have done all it could to stop the war.
Comment: Why are the Democrats in such a rush to end this war? This war has no impact on most Americans. The GOP loves this war, and if they want to fight and die in Iraq, I say let 'em. Ain't no skin off my butt. There is no possibility of the draft, so why not kick back and let the GOP have their little war?
Comment: If there is anybody who has written more sensibly and eloquently about The Bush War than Chris Dickey, I have not read her or him yet. He saw early on where this thing was going, tried to warn us about the "insider" expat Iraquis who were feeding the abysmal maw of our current administration's insatiable desire for SaddamQuest with misguidance and self-serving fabrications. If only Bush's White House and his Pentagon had been subtle readers of reality instead of glassy-eyed believers in Cultural Empire, we would still have tens of thousands of productive men and women ready to defend us in real national emergencies or to help us work out real economic, infrastructural, and other social problems. Instead, we have many more war-profiteers and many more human casualties. All for a pre-emptive war when there was nothing to pre-empt. Chris Dickey's been a prophet, a clear voice in a murky and stinking swamp of somebody's venality, somebody's wanton ambitions.
Comment: If there is anybody who has written more sensibly and eloquently about The Bush War than Chris Dickey, I have not read her or him yet. He saw early on where this thing was going, tried to warn us about the "insider" expat Iraquis who were feeding the abysmal maw of our current administration's insatiable desire for SaddamQuest with misguidance and self-serving fabrications. If only Bush's White House and his Pentagon had been subtle readers of reality instead of glassy-eyed believers in Cultural Empire, we would still have tens of thousands of productive men and women ready to defend us in real national emergencies or to help us work out real economic, infrastructural, and other social problems. Instead, we have many more war-profiteers and many more human casualties. All for a pre-emptive war when there was nothing to pre-empt. Chris Dickey's been a prophet, a clear voice in a murky and stinking swamp of somebody's venality, somebody's wanton ambitions.
Comment: If there is anybody who has written more sensibly and eloquently about The Bush War than Chris Dickey, I have read her or him yet. He saw early on where this thing was going, tried to warn us about the "insider" expat Iraquis who were feeding the abysmal maw of our current administration's insatiable desire for SaddamQuest with misguidance and self-serving fabrications. If only Bush's White House and his Pentagon had been subtle readers of reality instead of glassy-eyed believers in Cultural Empire, we would still have tens of thousands of productive men and women ready to defend us in real national emergencies or to help us work out real economic, infrastructural, and other social problems. Instead, we have many more war-profiteers and many more human casualties. All for a pre-emptive war when there was nothing to pre-empt. Chris Dickey's been a prophet, a clear voice in a murky and stinking swamp of somebody's venality, somebody's wanton ambitions.
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Comment: Good commentary on the Iraq war; but the relationship with the movie "Deliverance" seemed rather strained. Nowadays anything can represent anything else. Now what did the dueling banjos represent? Civilization versus barbarism?
Comment: My name is Glenn Ewell. I seen the, "Deliverence," vry good movie, but it is no differnt then what happened at, Abugra; I hope I spelled it right, Prision, and the Horrific and Graphic Carnal Additude of the Government. Thinking that the Government cna get away with in your window sexual graphic actions. And taking incrimanating picture of the the said subjects, I seen those pictures released to the media, and they were very graphic and very horrifing to look at. However, when the Government take no actions in prosicuting those in Blackwater Ops, and letting them get away with murdering innocent men women and Children. In the name of National Security. I'm Sorry, I do not subscribe to tha type of stupidity, and I don't mistreating anyone. As far as Mr. Cheney is concerned, and the Bush Administration. Just a bunch of War Mongers, and Theves to them selve. Ask first, then steal from them later. And if that will not work, KILL THEM, and take it anyways. As for mistreating others, its no differnent then what I'm going through with Feld Entertainment's CEO, Kenneth Feld, and his Former CIA Cronies and what He, Mr. Feld put me through. I worked on there Animal Crew, taknig care of the Elephants, and quit my job only to turn evidence against on Animal Abuse, and after watching them Beat the Elephants to submission. I became an Animal Rights Activist, and was the very first Whisle Blower too ever come forward from Ringling. Corporate Government such as this one, will go as far as to discredit you, set you up for something you know you did not do, and make it look as if your the bad buy, and Mr. Feld walks away clean. On a County, State or Federal Level, you will find coruption that is so far gone mentality wise, and that they to think they are Bullet Proof. Well I'll tell you this much, they are wrong all the way, wiether it Mr. Feld, Pres. Bush, or Mr. Cheney, and those they hire to cover up the deep rooted coruption. It all catches up with them, and they will all pay for sins they have comitted against Humanity. So, if you want to find out the truth, and to exspose those for who they are corupt. Bewere, Because they will find away to silence you, and to discredit you beyound you wildest emagination. I know, I'm living proof, I've been through it, and I know who is responsible for what happened to me, and his name is Mr. Kenneth Feld.
Comment: For "YSREBOB" Bush was attached to the Air Guard w/assistance from dad, and couldn't even complete that assignment...Cheney being SecDef was civilian post, not military service,no danger to his hide... he got deferment several times during the 60s from active duty when he was more than capable to serve... Ultimately we should not have gone into Iraq until Afganistan was settled. That in itself makes the Bush administration incompetent if not criminally negligent. Saddams WMD had NOTHING to do with 9/11 whether or not every one up to the Pope agrees that he was a bad man with criminal intent.
Comment: If you want to limit our civilian leadership to people who have only seen combat, then that cuts out most of our recent presidents. Bush senior and Truman are the only recent ones that I am aware of. I think you are confusing incompetence with criminal intent. Otherwise I agree with everything that you say. Unfortunately, I think Afghanistan is as finished as it ever will be. We may get Ossama some day, or we may not. The British had the same problems back in the 1800's.
Comment: After Truman: Eisenhower, commanding general of the Allies in Europe during WW2; Kennedy, commanded PT boats in the South Pacific during WW2; Carter, executive office of submarine during Korean War; and then G.H.W. Bush. You missed 3 presidents who served in the armed forces during a war.
Comment: For "dwerth": The thought-provoking and inspiring suggestions (warnings) are plentiful, for those who would seek them. The most clear and concise comes from B.H. Liddell Hart, noted strategist, in his classic "Strategy," "A State which expends its strength to the point of exhaustion bankrupts its own policy, and future. If you concentrate exclusively on victory, with no thought for the after-effect, you may be too exhausted to profit by the peace, while it is almost certain that the peace will be a bad one, containing the germs of another war." Action undertaken without consideration for the outcome/consequences is the point. We may not need a historian, as "sulligang" suggests, but a leader who has read a good book or two would be an improvement.
Comment: Christopher Dickey's abilities as a mind reader puts the Amazing Kreskin to shame. To say that the idelogues of the Bush administation secretly envied the tyrants' of the Soviet Union is speclative and reduclious.
For the record, Bush, Chaney, and Rumsfield all have previous military experience. Rumsfield was a naval Aviator, Bush was a pilot in the Air Guard, and Chaney was the secretary of Defense during the first Gulf War. Also for the record Sadam was a very bad man. He used cimical weapons agains the Iranians and his own people. Prior to the war numerous world leaders believed Sadam was working on a WMD program including Putin and Clinton. Sadam's own son-in-law (who he later executed) said he had a WMD program.
The problems of the middle east predate the Bush administration and even the 1949 formation of Isreal. The root cause goes back to colonial medeling by Britan, France, German, and Russia. Iraq wasn't even a country until Lawrence of Arabia and the British re-drew the map after World War I.
A key part of the plot of Diliverence that Mr. Dickey does not expand upon, is that the four subburbanites from Atlanta were unprovokedly attacked. Regardless of the personality falts of the characters, they were forced to protect themselves the best they could.
There has been lots of mistakes in this war, as there are in most wars. In hind sight I believe that the war has probably hurt American interest around the world, but just because the war has gone badly does not make the Bush administration tyrants and criminals.
Comment: Christopher Dickey's abilities as a mind reader puts the Amazing Kreskin to shame. To say that the idelogues of the Bush administation secretly envied the tyrants' of the Soviet Union is speclative and reduclious.
For the record, Bush, Chaney, and Rumsfield all have previous military experience. Rumsfield was a naval Aviator, Bush was a pilot in the Air Guard, and Chaney was the secretary of Defense during the first Gulf War. Also for the record Sadam was a very bad man. He used cimical weapons agains the Iranians and his own people. Prior to the war numerous world leaders believed Sadam was working on a WMD program including Putin and Clinton. Sadam's own son-in-law (who he later executed) said he had a WMD program.
The problems of the middle east predate the Bush administration and even the 1949 formation of Isreal. The root cause goes back to colonial medeling by Britan, France, German, and Russia. Iraq wasn't even a country until Lawrence of Arabia and the British re-drew the map after World War I.
A key part of the plot of Diliverence that Mr. Dickey does not expand upon, is that the four subburbanites from Atlanta were unprovokedly attacked. Regardless of the personality falts of the characters, they were forced to protect themselves the best they could.
There has been lots of mistakes in this war, as there are in most wars. In hind sight I believe that the war has probably hurt American interest around the world, but just because the war has gone badly does not make the Bush administration tyrants and criminals.
Comment: Wah wah wah.
Comment: Great article, great analysis...until the end. Like the war, I have to ask what's the point of the article. Do we really need one more explanation of the dillusionary mindset of those who led us down that destructive path and those (especially the spineless Democrats who were afraid to oppose so as to save their careers) who timidly followed in lock-step? Where are the thought-provoking and inspiring suggestions of what might be done to save this nation from the "war is the only solution" power-mongers and the simplistic "kick their asses" mentality of the people who fall for their con? Why just add to the despair? Thanks anyway.
Comment: It appears that when the right can't blast the left for being weak kneed pantywaists, they try to blast them for agreeing with em. Fact: Saddam did not have anything to do with 9/11. Fact: Osama did. The Bush administration dropped the ball by not finishing in Afganistan. Saddam wasn't going anywhere. Whether or not we all agree that he was an evil despot or not, we had other business to attend to. Besides, isn't he an evil that we created? We supported him both militarily and financially in his war with Iran...much of his equipment was of US origin...hey wait, we supported Osama against the Soviets in the 70s too.... Maybe our policies shouldn't be siding with the lesser of the evils, maybe we should let those types sort it out between themselves and pick up the pieces afterwards... I am disappointed that the cowards in power (Bush, Cheney) have thus far had the blood of almost 4000 of our soldiers on their souls, yet they were too chicken and/or selfserving to serve in the military themselves. I supproted , and still support the actions in Afganistan, but totally opposed the invasion of Iraq. We need real leaders...unfrotunately neither side has come up with someone that really strikes us in the middle as the real deal
Comment: Too many of the extreme right, try to justify the unfortunate actions of the Bush administration by taking either pot shots at the left, or try to justify by inclusion as PhilinAZ is doing. Simple fact: No matter how lousy a dictator, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. Another simple fact: Osama did, and is still loose. I supported the invasion of Afganistan, and still think it was the correct move by the Bush administration. If they had been competent enough to COMPLETE the job in Afganistan prior to going into Iraq, I may have supported the invasion. Unfortunately it was ill planned, ill concieved, ill timed and for the wrong reasons.... We all know Saddam was a blemish that needing cleaning up. How sad it is that we forget that just a relative short time ago he was an ally, and we supported his government to the tune of millions of dollars, as well as providing much of the military equipment he posessed. We knew his behavior then was deplorable, but overlooked it in convienence. Come to think of it, even Osama was a quasi ally whom we supported by providing training and weapons in the 70s during his fight against the Soviets in Afganistan... Historically we (our government) has a tendency to support corrupt regiemes when it fits our pourposes. We allied with Batista in Cuba, even though we knew of his corrrupt and vicious tactics, and the list can go on... Saddam could have waited, but the War Mongers who never heard a shot fired in anger, and actually were too weak and/or too connected to have to be put in harms way now have the blood of nearly 4000 much braver, and to me much more patriotic, Americans on their souls. We need to realize that the allies we choose today, especially the corrupt and ruthless ones will probably be our problem tomorrow... Maybe we need a historian as a leader in the US
Comment: Ah, the lasting legacy of the Bush administration: "we were less wrong and less incompetent than the Democrats."
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Comment: To the Iibs taking the moral high ground in Iraq. Sen. John Rockefeller, D-W.Va., ranking minority Intelligence Committee member, October 2002: "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years." Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., December 1998: "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., and others, in a letter to President Bush, December 2001: There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. ... In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, February 1998: "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." So guess what. We removed a percieved threat. Now we have to clean up the mess. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Comment: If removing Saddam Hussein from power was wrong, despite the fact that he murdered his own people, attacked neighbor countries, and was pursuing weapons of mass destruction, then removing Adolf Hitler was wrong, despite the fact that he murdered his own people, attacked neighbor countries, and was pursuing weapons of mass destruction.
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Comment: Here is to the libs who are complaining about WMDs in Iraq. Here are the others who thought Iraq had these weapons. Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, February 1998: "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., December 1998: "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., and others, in a letter to President Bush, December 2001: There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. ... In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
So it was Bush that pushed us to war. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Comment: If removing Saddam Hussein from power was wrong, despite the fact he murdered thousands of his own people, acted belligerent to other nations and was pursuing weapons of mass destruction, then it was wrong to remove Adolf Hitler from power, despite the fact that he murdered thousands of his own people, acted belligerent to other nations and was pursuing weapons of mass destruction.
Comment: It all makes sense, now. So...was Saddam the piggy? Or are we?
Comment: It all makes sense, now. So...was Saddam the piggy? Or are we?
Comment: Not all candidates want to continue this thing. Bill Richardson wants to pull all of the troops out as soon as possible. He wants to use diplomacy, what we should have been doing in the first place, to help Iraq regroup and rebuild. Not everyone is on a testosterone high like Lewis/Dick or even Hillary.
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Comment: I think this is a very well thought out artical. It sounds perfect! There is more truth to this than anything the administration has told us. This war is wrong, we are fighting the wrong people and the truth is this administrations main reason to be there is so we have a military base in the Middle East! I also wanted to say that I support our troops! They are the most selfless and bravest people our country has. I do not, however, support our president or this administrations ideas or reasons for this war.
Comment: We don't belong in someones elses Country. Do you want an Army of another Country to occupy America because they THINK we are a threat? They didn't even have any Weapons of Mass destruction. It was all a hoax. Do you see how much money all those Corporations are making over there? Billions. It about profits NOT Freedom. Yes, they all wave the Flag but it's just a show so they can get us to go along with them. It's not working. Our people are dying for a lie. Wake up.Why do you think Cheny wouldn't go into the Military?
Yet he sends our young idealistic youth to a pointless war. WE don't belong there. It was a All guys from saudi arabia that flew those planes into the towers. i was there that day in NYC. why not attack saudi arabia?
Can't. They are buddies with the Bush Family and hey, they have Oil! Who nees the Truth when you can have oil profits.
Comment: It looks like zapp666 is a perfect example of the Lewis-mindset. I think the article makes an excellent point. From Dick Cheney "hunting" caged birds (and the occasional lawyer) to George W. pretending to be a rancher, the entire administration seems intent on proving their manliness. Probably to make up for the fact they dodged the draft when they were younger. It is so sad that truly brave men and women are dying for their machismo. Our current leaders make the world a more dangerous place and then ask for more power so they can protect us.
Comment: Dick Cheney is a God. And the fact that Dickey, or any of you for that matter, can't see that shows you aren't capable of thinking on his level.
Really! Comparing complex geopolitical situations to a movie known only for one, graphic sexual scene may show you wit, but it does not show your intelligence nor your understanding of what this country needs to do to survive.
Drivel. Complete drivel that amounts to a little boy screaming "Daddy! Daddy!! Look at me! Look at meeeeeeee!!"
Comment: Dick Cheney is a God. And the fact that Dickey, or any of you for that matter, can't see that shows you aren't capable of thinking on his level.
Really! Comparing complex geopolitical situations to a movie known only for one, graphic sexual scene may show you wit, but it does not show your intelligence nor your understanding of what this country needs to do to survive.
Drivel. Complete drivel that amounts to a little boy screaming "Daddy! Daddy!! Look at me! Look at meeeeeeee!!"
Comment: We don't belong in someone elses country. You want someother Countriess Army here in the US because THEY think WE are a threat? Think about it.We are wrong and that is why it's not working.Growup.
Comment: What a bunch of baloney. Unless you are a mindreader and clairvoyant, I don't see how you know how Dick Cheney and the people at the White House were thinking when they went into Iraq. I guess people like you are the only ones can see evil in the actions of individuals who think differently. Please remember this is the U.S. of A. Why do you think we have not had a terrorist attack here since 9/11?
If there's anything between your ears other than methane gas, you'd know that all the Jihadists have been lured to Iraq. Granted, GW and his advisors should be faulted for little or no post-invasion plans but I believe that the reason for going into Iraq was legitimate, nothwithstanding the failure to find any WMDs.
As they say, when the going gets tough ........ We really have no choice but to hunker down and see this mess through. To withdraw precipitously would free up Jihadist resources that will eventually result in the destruction of a few more buildings in the continental USA and consequent untold civilian casulaties amongst our population. I'm sure you don't want that.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank our men and women in uniform who put themselves in harm's way, fighting those animals there, instead of here.
Thank you and have a good day.
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Comment: Hey gdsileo, ONE Republican candidate has stated his opposition to the Iraq invasion, since before the Congressional vote on war powers. He has already stated his comlplete opposition to the Bush plans to vaprorize Iran. He is running SECOND in the straw polls, and his contributions from present and retired U.S. Military personnel and officers is DOUBLE that of Romney and the others combined! His name, for your edification, is RON PAUL, and the media have treated him with A TOTAL BLACKOUT of reporting anything at all about his campaign. The GOP neo-con Mainstream hate him so much, they tried to EXCLUDE him from the most recent debate! The party and the media are both consciously and deliberately breaking the Law to keep Americans from hearing Ron Paul's message. You ought to check out a real American Conservative hero and patriot, RON PAUL, and since the media won't do it, please pass his name and message on to as many friends as you can. Thank you.
Comment: At least Reynolds" character had some redeeming Qualities. What's the connection?
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Comment: One democratic candidate (Dennis K.) has strongly and repeatedly called for an immediate end to the Iraq war and has refuted the use of military force as a legitimate solution. Interestingly, the media treats him like he's nuts.
Comment: Can you honestly say you'd want Dennis the Menace as your president?
Comment: One democratic candidate (Dennis K.) has repeatedly come out against the war and the use of military force as a legitimate option. Interesting that everyone treats him as if he's nuts.
Comment: The only thing Dick Cheney has in common with 'Deliverence' is the subject of shooting unsuspecting people.
Comment: The only thing cheney has in common with 'Deliverence' is shooting unsuspecting people.
Comment: Cheney's way of doing things is like throwing fastballs with no aim. Just hoping something crosses the plate. MoreCheney and sports comparison political funnyness at http://www.tankwilson.com.
Comment: The Iraq analogy seems to be more lilke doing brains surgery with a chain saw. Perhaps a little messy, but if you are not concerned with the patient, it is an effective way to remove a tumor.
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Comment: The biggest pile of claptrap drivel I've heard recently was that Iraq had WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION (remember?) Mack679, can you explain exactly WHY we're at war with Iraq? Seems to me this is a better explanation than most of the excuses I've heard.
Comment: Weapons of mass destruction ?so thats what floats the get out at any cost crowd. Its seems to me its a lot easier fighting an enemy thats consentrated in Iraq than chasing them all over the world hoping we catch them before they blow up their next target. Has it crossed your pinproint of a brain that that target Isreal hit in Syria that neither side wants to talk about wasn't a candy factory?
Comment: Mack 679, The biggest claptrap drivel I've heard lately is the one about Iraq having WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION (!!!?!!!!) Can you really explain why in the hell we're at war with IRAQ?? This makes more sense than most of the excuses I've heard.
Comment: I hope you wrote this drivel just to get a rise out of the normal people of our country and don't really believe this claptrap.If this really is your view there will be more people out there of similar views which means our country has started its journey to decline and ruin.
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Comment: Can the courts hold Bush and Cheney accountable for the mishandling of the war and the deception they fabricated to go to war?
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Comment: When are you Dem-wits going to remember a few more incidents; ie World Trade Center Bombings;Cole;Beirut;Somalia. We have been at war with the radical Muslim for a very long time now.
Comment: An interesting perspective.
The general perception seems to be that there was no plan for Iraq when we invaded.
I question that. The plan apparently was to stay in Iraq permanently.
Cheney has made it clear over the years that we would go to war to protect our interests in Mideast oil.
Greenspan said it was all about oil.
We lost our bases in Saudi Arabia and we have had a lot of talk from GOP congressmen and the Pentagon about the need for permanent bases in the Middle East - and we are reported to be building permanent bases in Iraq.
We trained and armed much if not most of the allied forces in WWII and we can't seem to train and equip an army in a country the size of New Jersey. The half-hearted effort at training, along with the other evidence, suggests an intention to keep the Iraqis dependent upon us while the country disintegrates so that we can maintain permanent bases -- at all costs.
Comment: Profround. We are living a nightmare.
Comment: What an excellent article. What great comparisons to the movie. This article gave me new perspective on the reasons behind invading Iraq. I, probably like a lot of Americans, at the time of the instigation of the invasion of Iraq were dumbfounded as to "why" we were going into Iraq instead of trying to find Bin Laden. I think the invasion of Iraq's masterminds (i.e., Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.) really were able to pull the wool over our eyes without any kind of effort at all. After all, they are the ones in power and were in power at the time. It's time to stand up to that power, and we (the people) want the Democrats to do it! They were given the mandate to do it! They have dissappointed us (the people) so far. Do it Congress and let's also start putting the spotlight on those many Republicans who are just as criminal as Bush!!!!
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Comment: Yes, Mr. Dickey. it is a classic tragedy. You know what's going to happen, that it will be awful, but you cannot stop it. Those that could stop it stand idly by, like gawkers entranced by the horror. And yes, Iraq has become the river, a visceral parade of obscenely predictable events that has gained a momentum of its own. We will pay the price of this folly for generations, and our grandchildren will rightly curse us for it.
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