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  • Posted By: DeltaC3 @ 09/11/2008 9:47:09 AM

    Sorry for my English, but I used the Internet the translator. I live in Moscow, in the beginning 90 in Russia there has come "hot time" there were gangsters, racket prospered. Every day someone died, but never ???????????? such opposition of gangs as in America, it were small gangs which communicated among themselves and each other knew. In due course they have come to legal business and became businessmen or politicians. The greatest gang in Russia, I think as well as in America it Police.Is a mafia! The most blood-thirsty, ruthless. You tell, but as gangsters can have a pity. But all of us differently, at fair gangsters have laws, it is impossible to sell drugs, it is impossible to kill and cripple people for money, it is impossible to force women. If gangsters observe, the police opposite spat on any rules, they and cover the law each other. Sell drugs, kill people and hold public ????????.???????? at you there are what questions why our gangsters have laws why they observe them, you can ask the questions having sent to me on an e-mail ruuu@list.ru

  • Posted By: DeltaC3 @ 09/11/2008 9:46:15 AM

    Sorry for my English, but I used the Internet the translator. I live in Moscow, in the beginning 90 in Russia there has come "hot time" there were gangsters, racket prospered. Every day someone died, but never ???????????? such opposition of gangs as in America, it were small gangs which communicated among themselves and each other knew. In due course they have come to legal business and became businessmen or politicians. The greatest gang in Russia, I think as well as in America it Police.Is a mafia! The most blood-thirsty, ruthless. You tell, but as gangsters can have a pity. But all of us differently, at fair gangsters have laws, it is impossible to sell drugs, it is impossible to kill and cripple people for money, it is impossible to force women. If gangsters observe, the police opposite spat on any rules, they and cover the law each other. Sell drugs, kill people and hold public ????????.???????? at you there are what questions why our gangsters have laws why they observe them, you can ask the questions having sent to me on an e-mail ruuu@list.ru

  • Posted By: Taifun @ 09/11/2008 9:45:53 AM

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  • Posted By: Taifun @ 09/11/2008 9:34:02 AM

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  • Posted By: topsite @ 11/16/2007 8:15:20 PM

    The following Email was sent to me by the author of the message below. My response follows his.
    Hello, my name is Xaqu??n G.V. Assistant Art Director at Newsweek. The online edition if the magazine has done this interactive graphic about gangs in the US and, as you are -your site- has been one of the main sources: if you miss something, if you have any comments, clarifications or corrections about the content. Here's the link:

    Gangland U.S.A.
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/54180

    Thank you very much.

    Xaqu??n

    My Response:

    Hello Xaquin,



    I received your Email about the gangs online and I have several comments. I have no problem with the backgrounds provided in ???Most Dangerous??? list, but I think that you need to do more research for the ???Map The Gangs??? page.



    The problem is you don???t show some of the gangs in areas where the gangs originated or where there are heavy concentrations of the gangs.



    For example, you do not show the Border Brothers or Sinaloa Cowboys as being in California. Nor do you show the Rollin??? 20???s, the Rollin???60???s or the Grape Street Crips as being in California. All of the gangs have a strong presence in the state.



    The two links below will give you an idea of the origin and whereabouts of the gangs mentioned above:

    http://www.gangsorus.com/otherprison.html

    http://www.streetgangs.com/crips/



    For the state of South Carolina, you list the Aryan Brotherhood, Black Mafia, and the Young Guns. All of these are gangs of little or no consequence in the state, if they even still exist. The state has a very heavy presence of Bloods, Mara Salvatrucha and others. There are many Five Percenters locked up in the prison system where they have been declared a Security Threat Group since 1995.



    According to a 2005 survey taken by researchers at the University of South Carolina the following gangs are in South Carolina:



    Gang Name Number of Gangs



    Bloods 53

    Crips 43

    Folk Nation

    Latin Kings 7

    Mara Salvatrucha 19

    Gangster Disciples 6



    Based on these examples, I can not help but believe that there are other states that have errors and omissions similar to those that I have listed. People who work with gangs will be very quick to see discrepancies; particularly those persons who are in law enforcement.



    While I thank you for your Email message, and also Newsweek, for using me as a source for your information, I must request that you remove my name and that of my web site from the credits of the online article. I am sure that you can understand that I do not want to be associated with something that appears to be incorrect or incomplete.



    Thank you very much,



    Robert Walker
    Gangs OR Us
    www.gangsorus.com


  • Posted By: ITiZwuTiTiS @ 11/16/2007 11:15:25 AM

    RamRam: Point said! I like the way you layed it all out.

  • Posted By: RamRam @ 11/15/2007 3:45:22 PM

    The reality is that criminals produce jobs. It brings jobs by bringing in more law enforcement officers; it brings jobs for the court systems and for the correctional institutions. More criminals, means more money. Let???s imagine for a moment, what would happen if there was no more crimes in America. Law enforcement agencies would be hit drastically, lawyers would be out of jobs for lack of cases etc, etc, etc???..
    Let???s face it; it???s a multi-billion dollar industry. In the end it???s all about the money, we have the capability to eliminate the problem but why would you shoot your self in the head over a headache. When it gets out of hands, then we have raids and areas flooded with more officers, but only when it gets out of hand. This is the sad reality that we all have to live with; the hope is that we never become the next victim of a criminal act.

  • Posted By: RamRam @ 11/15/2007 3:43:16 PM

    The reality is that criminals produce jobs. It brings jobs by bringing in more law enforcement officers; it brings jobs for the court systems and for the correctional institutions. More criminals, means more money. Let???s imagine for a moment, what would happen if there was no more crimes in America. Law enforcement agencies would be hit drastically, lawyers would be out of jobs for lack of cases etc, etc, etc???..
    Let???s face it; it???s a multi-billion dollar industry. In the end it???s all about the money, we have the capability to eliminate the problem but why would you shoot your self in the head over a headache. When it gets out of hands, then we have raids and areas flooded with more officers, but only when it gets out of hand. This is the sad reality that we all have to live with; the hope is that we never become the next victim of a criminal act.

  • Posted By: justen12 @ 11/15/2007 3:11:22 PM

    How in thw world is the arayn brotherhood not on this list..hmmm, i wonder why...

  • Posted By: justen12 @ 11/15/2007 3:10:35 PM

    How in the world is the aryan brotherhood not on this list!!!!!hmmm..i wonder why.

  • Posted By: npllglgg @ 11/15/2007 3:09:16 PM

    If all these Bloods, Crips, 5s, and 6s ned to be killing and fighting....go to Iraq, so that young men and women who want to live and make something of themselves can!

  • Posted By: traveller @ 11/15/2007 3:07:44 PM

    @feybie
    you are right. People, Folks, crips, and bloods are four totally separate and distinct organizations with completely independent histories, laws, codes and creeds. Ironically, there are more similarities between People and Folks, and between crips and bloods. This map also greatly underestimates the territories of the larger organizations.
    TVL- 219

  • Posted By: traveller @ 11/15/2007 3:07:00 PM

    @feybie
    you are right. People, Folks, crips, and bloods are four totally separate and distinct organizations with completely independent histories, laws, codes and creeds. Ironically, there are more similarities between People and Folks, and between crips and bloods. This map also greatly underestimates the territories of the larger organizations.
    TVL- 219

  • Posted By: reddoguh1 @ 11/11/2007 4:56:16 PM

    Newsweek. If you're really onboard with gangs being one of the most altering problems in the last century in these United States, then why do you relagate this issue to an oped in your extra section? This national problem should be given its due and be featured in an issue. This cancer on the American landscape has already changed our everyday life. Maybe you should better ask why is it hip to dress like gang members, and why parents tollerate it. Why does the violence in the music and entertainment industries sell?
    Why are gangs allowed to dominate in our correctional facilities? Parents who don't care or are never there
    for their children may be the root of the problem, but stating the obvious isn't a fix to this problem.
    The only power most Americans have in a united problem as this is their vote. The days of being soft, ignoring, and accepting of this cancer in our society, because of our freedoms, have obviously come full circle.
    Politics run this country of ours, like it or not. Hopefully someone will throw their hat in the ring that actually
    cares about problems that effect everyday citizens. If we're fortunate enough for this to occur, no matter what party they represent, we have to support change. In a nutshell we have the power if we choose to make it a priority.

    • Posted By: ITiZwuTiTiS @ 11/15/2007 3:02:48 PM

      You just answered your own questions and concerns. Politics...Every *** running this country.....THEY'RE THE MOST NOTORIOUS GANG OUT THERE. The real ones running this SHh. Therefore, unless they fix the way they run there SHh.....this issue is always going to be an issue. If you really think about how gangs come about, and their purpose...it's everything our hypicritacal government is. They're the ones who started this whole mess FROM THE VERY BEGINING! SO...with that said, nothings ever gonna change. It's the way life's supposed to be. All we can do, is set the example by every thing we do and say in life. It may sound corny..but real talk.....speaking from experience of living that life style.....If you've ever seen that movie "Pay it forward," in all reality.........it's up to me and you to make the change. The government WONT DO JACK SHh.

  • Posted By: ITiZwuTiTiS @ 11/15/2007 2:25:08 PM

    It all started from the begining. The ones who started "America" built it on hate. This is the outcome.

  • Posted By: feyble @ 11/15/2007 2:23:10 PM

    minerb u sound like uz *** faded as all hell. go bak home rednek. GD isnt a crip gang. its a 6 (folk) gang. different gangs, different symbols. most crips go to 6s, when they move to those areas, and vice versa. also, kings and such be 5 (people) gang. im from huntington park (-LA- ) and been all over, and now by denver. gangs are 4 sections. bloods, crips, 5s, and 6s. if ya want to have it set up to the T, thats how u should do it. then break it down from those 4.
    JASC`5

  • Posted By: feyble @ 11/15/2007 2:17:59 PM

    man minerb sounds dumb as all hell. eyh mayne. who ever made this, needs to know a few of the differences. GD is a 6, no a crip. There are Bloods, Crips, 5s, and 6s. 5s are people, such as kings and lords, while 6s are people such as BGD, GD, and the such. They are different. Most crip members change to a 6 gang when they move to those areas, and vice versa. The same goes with bloods and 5s, although some crips will go to 5s too. Im from Cali, from the Huntington Park Area, and I have been all over, and am now by Denver. socom_rage@hotmail.com

  • Posted By: danaaron @ 11/01/2007 9:53:24 AM

    As a teenager I was a good friend to some gang members but not involved myself. When I was 18 I was arrested and sent to prison where I was then surrounded by gangs. I went into prison just a friend, but came out a full fledged member. I'm 30 now and had to move 1,500 miles away from my home just to be able to sleep at night. I'm not sure prison is the answer for anything including gang members. What is the alternative though?

    • Posted By: HUGI @ 11/15/2007 2:14:02 PM

      Enter Your CommentDEATH MY FRIEND ,YOU WERE ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES, YOUS TILL HAD A LITTLE SENSE TO GET AWAY FROM THOSE AMIMALS ,BUT FOR THE ONES THAT DONT (DEATH THE ONLY ANSWEAR)

  • Posted By: StillHere @ 11/01/2007 3:40:40 PM

    My vote is simple remove gangs from American history outlaw all gang activity and membership. If more prisons are needed billed them, our society needs a zero tolerance for gang activity. Simply wearing a gang related mark should be a minimum 10 year prison sentence. I do not want to hear about education and understanding of a troubled youth. Have a family member killed by a random gang act of violence and then talk to me about understanding. I have none. My brother was shot about three years ago at the local mall when a car of gang members pulled up and unloaded there weapons hoping to hit the guy they were aiming for. Understanding? Oh I understand! I understand that gangs have taken control of America and unless we stop them now we will not be able to do common everyday things in the future. Simply going to the store will be something you are afraid to do. Gangs should be treated like terrorists. the government should be more concerned with the affairs of state and put soldiers on our streets with orders to capture any and all none terrorists.

    • Posted By: HUGI @ 11/15/2007 2:10:41 PM

      YOUR ARE RIGHT MY MAN ,BUT UNFORTUNATLY THE GOVERMENT IS'NT GONNA DO SQUAT, THEY'RE PROBABLY FIGURING OUT A WAY TO MAKE MORE MONEY OUT OF THIS PROBLEM WHICH THEY ALLREADY ARE ,ALL THESE HOODLUMS KEEP THE POLICE ,THE HOSPITALS .AND THE COURTS AND JAILS REAL BUSY AND THE GOVERMENT TAXES THE HELL OUT OF ALL OF THEM ( DONT THEY? )

  • Posted By: lemotjuste @ 11/14/2007 10:34:09 PM

    Americans have lost control. There exists a fear across the land. The fear is of saying 'no'. If I say no I may look like the bad guy. If we don't treat our murderous prisoners well we will look mean-spirited. Heaven forbid!

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